*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles - NFC EAST CHAMPS*** (1 Viewer)

[LTsharks]

am i the only one who thought foles looked pretty average today?

No. He was below average the second half. Still 115-+ QB rating though.

He looked a little above average. Probably not as good as the numbers suggest. He did make some fantastic throws today. He also held the ball a little and didn't do much in the 2nd half. Some of that could be play calling, but it is also on him.

I'm an Eagles fan and Foles owner in a keeper league. I'm excited about Kelly and where the Eagles are heading. From what I watched today I really think Foles can be a very good NFL QB. How much of this is system and how much is the QB? Is it just Foles or could someone else look better? Is that even possible? We will all know how Kelly feels after the draft. As an Eagles fan, I'm very happy for the ride this season and can't wait to see where Kelly (and I really think Foles) can take the team.

 

[babydemon90]

am i the only one who thought foles looked pretty average today?

Definitely struggled in the 2nd half. Against a good defense, they got some good pressure, running game was not helping at all. They do need to figure out some adjustments for the 2nd half slump they keep getting in. Wasn't just Foles though, the whole offense was struggling there. Still exciting - Foles is getting good experience, Chip Kelly is getting experience - next few years, I am very hopeful we'll see the Eagles do well. The whole 'slump in the 2ns half' phenomena is hardly limited to the Eagles

 

[ShaHBucks]

Foles actually went after Pat Peterson a bit. He could have got in trouble, but it's nice to see that confidence. I noticed that about him in his rookie season vs Cin. It was a bad game statistically. His int was from L. Hall. I remember thinking "did this guy actually go after Hall targeting B. Celek downfield?" Now that I think about it he is letting everyone studying the tape know the whole field is in play if you'renot on your Ps and Qs.

Is Jason Avant going to make a play this season?

 

[Amused to Death]

It's December, and we're in the playoff hunt

The Eagles' first improvement from the previous season since '08 (8-8 in '07 to 9-6-1 in '08 and a trip to the NFCCG). Less success each subsequent season till now.

didn't we improve to 11-5 in 2009?

Record-wise, but they went from losing the Conference Championship in '08 to losing the WC game in '09. More success in '08, no?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

am i the only one who thought foles looked pretty average today?

Definitely struggled in the 2nd half. Against a good defense, they got some good pressure, running game was not helping at all. They do need to figure out some adjustments for the 2nd half slump they keep getting in. Wasn't just Foles though, the whole offense was struggling there. Still exciting - Foles is getting good experience, Chip Kelly is getting experience - next few years, I am very hopeful we'll see the Eagles do well. The whole 'slump in the 2ns half' phenomena is hardly limited to the Eagles

The offense as a whole looked bad in the second half in just about every aspect. This was a tough challenge for us and I'm glad we came out on top and should have plenty to learn from going forward. Even as bad as Foles looked in the second half he still didnt turn the ball over which was huge in helping us hold the lead.

If I have to pick on something I'd say Kelly had a couple of questionable decisions as well. You can't have Brad Smith in there when the offense is rolling down the field. If you want to run that play, fine...just use Vick or dont run the play at all. The 3rd and 2 near the end of the gameis another one... 2 out of those 3 plays were Foles keeping the ball and running. I'm OK tith the first one but on a 3rd and 2 I want the ball in my best players hands to get that first--Give it to Shady

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@And_Porter: All the Foles stats out there, one that is flying under the radar is... the Eagles are 5-0 in games that Foles has started AND finished.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

am i the only one who thought foles looked pretty average today?

Definitely struggled in the 2nd half. Against a good defense, they got some good pressure, running game was not helping at all. They do need to figure out some adjustments for the 2nd half slump they keep getting in. Wasn't just Foles though, the whole offense was struggling there. Still exciting - Foles is getting good experience, Chip Kelly is getting experience - next few years, I am very hopeful we'll see the Eagles do well. The whole 'slump in the 2ns half' phenomena is hardly limited to the Eagles

The offense as a whole looked bad in the second half in just about every aspect. This was a tough challenge for us and I'm glad we came out on top and should have plenty to learn from going forward. Even as bad as Foles looked in the second half he still didnt turn the ball over which was huge in helping us hold the lead.

If I have to pick on something I'd say Kelly had a couple of questionable decisions as well. You can't have Brad Smith in there when the offense is rolling down the field. If you want to run that play, fine...just use Vick or dont run the play at all. The 3rd and 2 near the end of the gameis another one... 2 out of those 3 plays were Foles keeping the ball and running. I'm OK tith the first one but on a 3rd and 2 I want the ball in my best players hands to get that first--Give it to Shady

I was baffled by both of these calls. Really did not understand them at all. I was actually very impressed with Foles performance. I think we may be expecting PERFECTION on every play. The guy once again made some great decisions out there behind an offensive line that looked pretty average to me.

 

[JuniorNB]

@And_Porter: All the Foles stats out there, one that is flying under the radar is... the Eagles are 5-0 in games that Foles has started AND finished.

Technically, that's correct. But the Dallas loss was definitely his.

All in all, it's impossible to not love what we're seeing in Foles. The Arizona defense is a very solid unit. And he still comes away with 3 TDs and zero picks. (yes he got a gift with the penalty that took his interception off the board). He just seems so poised an unphased by all of this.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

With the lions secondary coming to town, should be another decent game for Foles & Co.

Seems like this week vs Ariz, they must have noticed something with Arizona and the TE, Desean & cooper were very meh

most looks went to Ertz & Co

 

[babydemon90]

Imagine a full offseason as the starter....

 

[Bigboy10182000]

All in all, it's impossible to not love what we're seeing in Foles. The Arizona defense is a very solid unit. And he still comes away with 3 TDs and zero picks. (yes he got a gift with the penalty that took his interception off the board). He just seems so poised an unphased by all of this.

In a game where he "didnt look that good" he still had a rating of 112 while completing 61.8% of his passes with 3 TD's and zeros turnovers. He has just set the bar so high that games like this, against the best D he's seen, don't stand out any more lol

 

[Billy Bats]

All in all, it's impossible to not love what we're seeing in Foles. The Arizona defense is a very solid unit. And he still comes away with 3 TDs and zero picks. (yes he got a gift with the penalty that took his interception off the board). He just seems so poised an unphased by all of this.

In a game where he "didnt look that good" he still had a rating of 112 while completing 61.8% of his passes with 3 TD's and zeros turnovers. He has just set the bar so high that games like this, against the best D he's seen, don't stand out any more lol

Good point. In contrast, yesterday would've been an awesome game from Vick, but just so-so from Foles. Crazy ####.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: Trent Cole, Brandon Graham, still seemingly out of position, making things tough on QBs. @sjnard: http://t.co/cu4Z6Vm45f

@Jeff_McLane: #Eagles tight ends, especially Zach Ertz, carve up #Cardinals. More from @matt_breen: http://t.co/gBXOe7YiEJ

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@PFF_John: Eagles game is up @PFF - the sack Johnson gave up was the only pressure he allowed all game. Has allowed just 2 sacks + 2 hurries in past 4

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: Nick Foles was blitzed on 23 of 40 drops, per @PFF. Completed 9 of 18 for 135 yards, 2 TDs and was sacked 5 times.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@RoobCSN: The Eagles were among the worst in NFL history in forcing turnovers last year. The turnaround has been remarkable. http://t.co/wJ0rqEC4ek

 

[unckeyherb]

per Chip Kelly during his presser this afternoon, "Nick Foles will be the starting QB here in Philly for the next 1,000 years". True Story.

 

[unckeyherb]

@And_Porter: All the Foles stats out there, one that is flying under the radar is... the Eagles are 5-0 in games that Foles has started AND finished.

Technically, that's correct. But the Dallas loss was definitely his.

All in all, it's impossible to not love what we're seeing in Foles. The Arizona defense is a very solid unit. And he still comes away with 3 TDs and zero picks. (yes he got a gift with the penalty that took his interception off the board). He just seems so poised an unphased by all of this.

That's the part that I really love about him. Under pressure, up against the Birds endzone, 3rd and long, it doesn't matter. He looks and acts like there isn't anyone around. Its amazing, frankly.

 

[Billy Bats]

per Chip Kelly during his presser this afternoon, "Nick Foles will be the starting QB here in Philly for the next 1,000 years". True Story.

####### idiot Philly writers can't stop asking the dumbest questions ever, I'm not sure how anyone could keep their composure. I would flip out on these morons asking the same stupid questions over and over.

 

[unckeyherb]

per Chip Kelly during his presser this afternoon, "Nick Foles will be the starting QB here in Philly for the next 1,000 years". True Story.

####### idiot Philly writers can't stop asking the dumbest questions ever, I'm not sure how anyone could keep their composure. I would flip out on these morons asking the same stupid questions over and over.

He sounds pretty annoyed at this point. Light-hearted, no doubt. but annoyed all the same. He had a back and forth with someone and Aaron Rodgers came up. The reporter basically was saying that the Packers look to the future and know that Aaron rodgers will be their guy next season (implying that Chip should be prepping for the future too). Chips response was great.. First he said, (paraphrasing).."oh yeah? Aarons the starter next season? How'd he do last week?" Then he said he (chip) is on a 1 week contract. Every week is a new contract and he's looking ahead to the lions-no further.

After the decade-plus of time's yours and I've got to do a better job, its refreshing to listen to the pressers and get some emotion.

 

[JaxBill]

@Jeff_McLane: Nick Foles was blitzed on 23 of 40 drops, per @PFF. Completed 9 of 18 for 135 yards, 2 TDs and was sacked 5 times.

I guess you can look at that as good but you can also look at as bad in that he was sacked over 20% of time.

 

[unckeyherb]

the other funny one was in reference to the Brad Smith play-he went on a little diatribe about what the wildcat is and where it came from, and how that was not a wildcat formation. Then he said something like, "if you score on that play its a great call. If you don't its a stupid call. So... what a stupid call."

 

[Insein]

the other funny one was in reference to the Brad Smith play-he went on a little diatribe about what the wildcat is and where it came from, and how that was not a wildcat formation. Then he said something like, "if you score on that play its a great call. If you don't its a stupid call. So... what a stupid call."

I'm liking him more and more each week.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Free Brandon Graham.

 

[Deamon]

the other funny one was in reference to the Brad Smith play-he went on a little diatribe about what the wildcat is and where it came from, and how that was not a wildcat formation. Then he said something like, "if you score on that play its a great call. If you don't its a stupid call. So... what a stupid call."

I'm liking him more and more each week.

Same. As a Beavers fan, I've always disliked the guy and it took me some time to warm up to the idea of him coming to Philly. But I'm really starting to like him and each week the things he says and does excites me. Love his responses in pressers... he has good personality and when he talks about the x's and o's, he sounds extremely knowledgable.

 

[Billy Bats]

the other funny one was in reference to the Brad Smith play-he went on a little diatribe about what the wildcat is and where it came from, and how that was not a wildcat formation. Then he said something like, "if you score on that play its a great call. If you don't its a stupid call. So... what a stupid call."

Love Chip's pressers, I just want to punch every media guy there in the face. I was actually yelling at my radio today and had to turn it off when the starting QB questions came up again, by Bowen of all people. I thought he was a little better than that, guess they're all the same.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Are the press conferences saved online somewhere?

 

[Bushead]

Are the press conferences saved online somewhere?

i think you can find most of them on the Eagles website

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/videos/football-news.html

 

[sporthenry]

@RoobCSN: The Eagles were among the worst in NFL history in forcing turnovers last year. The turnaround has been remarkable. http://t.co/wJ0rqEC4ek

Good thing turnovers are largely seen as unpredictable, especially from year to year. Being historically bad was in some ways just unlucky. Just as this team is having a bit of good fortune.

Of course, it is still a good turnaround but Football outsiders still has them in the bottom 1/3 defensively. Which is why I think they need to draft a play maker on defense or their fortune will revert back to the mean and all of a sudden, we'll wonder what happened to our defense.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

the other funny one was in reference to the Brad Smith play-he went on a little diatribe about what the wildcat is and where it came from, and how that was not a wildcat formation. Then he said something like, "if you score on that play its a great call. If you don't its a stupid call. So... what a stupid call."

Love Chip's pressers, I just want to punch every media guy there in the face. I was actually yelling at my radio today and had to turn it off when the starting QB questions came up again, by Bowen of all people. I thought he was a little better than that, guess they're all the same.

Every one of them is a tool except Ray. Even the paper's headline article today was negatively slanted. Maybe we're just bred this way here...

 

[Bigboy10182000]

All-22 breakdown of Eagles/ Cardinals

I love these!

 

[Billy Bats]

Anyone catch Celek and Cooper low-fiving in the end zone on Celeks td?

http://www.zoowithroy.com/2013/12/high-five-it-bro-riley-cooper-and-brent.html?m=1

 

[Amused to Death]

Anyone catch Celek and Cooper low-fiving in the end zone on Celeks td?

http://www.zoowithroy.com/2013/12/high-five-it-bro-riley-cooper-and-brent.html?m=1

Awesome. Gotta believe that was an example of how comfortable and confident they are in that offense...high/low fiving each other because they knew they had it. Imagine this team after a couple more pieces are in place another training camp or 2.

 

[CentralPA]

Eagles S Earl Wolff (knee) won't be back until Week 15 in a best-case scenario.
Wolff has been out since sustaining his knee injury in Week 10. Pat Chung and Nate Allen have held up surprisingly well at the safety spots over the last two weeks, meaning there's no guarantee Wolff will get his job back upon his return.

Got to love Rotoworld and the stupidity they post. I can't wait for Wolff to get back in there and bench Chung. He is horrible, he pretty much tackled Boykin instead of Fitz on that Fitz TD.

 

[Deamon]

I forgot that Dallas has the Div tiebreakers on us. We would have to be 2 full games up on them to make the week 17 matchup irrelevant (barring them losing more div games).... so if we are going to do that, this week seems like our best shot as we are favoured and they are underdogs.

 

[Insein]

I forgot that Dallas has the Div tiebreakers on us. We would have to be 2 full games up on them to make the week 17 matchup irrelevant (barring them losing more div games).... so if we are going to do that, this week seems like our best shot as we are favoured and they are underdogs.

No we wouldn't. If we are both tied going into that last week then the winner of the game gets the division. No tiebreakers needed. We just can't be a game down going into that game.Nm just reread what you said. Yes we'd basically have to be 10-5 and them be 8-7.

 

[Deamon]

I forgot that Dallas has the Div tiebreakers on us. We would have to be 2 full games up on them to make the week 17 matchup irrelevant (barring them losing more div games).... so if we are going to do that, this week seems like our best shot as we are favoured and they are underdogs.

No we wouldn't. If we are both tied going into that last week then the winner of the game gets the division. No tiebreakers needed. We just can't be a game down going into that game.Nm just reread what you said. Yes we'd basically have to be 10-5 and them be 8-7.

Ya which I guess could still happen if we win this week and Dallas loses. As much as I know The Cowboys often suck in december and in clutch situations, I really don't feel comfortable having our fate down to a final game in Dallas.

A wildcard actually seems to be a possibility too (not that probable, but still likely). If we beat Detroit this week and New Orleans beats Carolina, and Seattle beats San Fran, then we will be tied with San Fran for the Wild Card, and only one game behind Carolina.

 

[Insein]

I forgot that Dallas has the Div tiebreakers on us. We would have to be 2 full games up on them to make the week 17 matchup irrelevant (barring them losing more div games).... so if we are going to do that, this week seems like our best shot as we are favoured and they are underdogs.

No we wouldn't. If we are both tied going into that last week then the winner of the game gets the division. No tiebreakers needed. We just can't be a game down going into that game.Nm just reread what you said. Yes we'd basically have to be 10-5 and them be 8-7.

Ya which I guess could still happen if we win this week and Dallas loses. As much as I know The Cowboys often suck in december and in clutch situations, I really don't feel comfortable having our fate down to a final game in Dallas.

A wildcard actually seems to be a possibility too (not that probable, but still likely). If we beat Detroit this week and New Orleans beats Carolina, and Seattle beats San Fran, then we will be tied with San Fran for the Wild Card, and only one game behind Carolina.

I think we run the table and just ignore all that mess.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I forgot that Dallas has the Div tiebreakers on us. We would have to be 2 full games up on them to make the week 17 matchup irrelevant (barring them losing more div games).... so if we are going to do that, this week seems like our best shot as we are favoured and they are underdogs.

No we wouldn't. If we are both tied going into that last week then the winner of the game gets the division. No tiebreakers needed. We just can't be a game down going into that game.Nm just reread what you said. Yes we'd basically have to be 10-5 and them be 8-7.

Ya which I guess could still happen if we win this week and Dallas loses. As much as I know The Cowboys often suck in december and in clutch situations, I really don't feel comfortable having our fate down to a final game in Dallas.

A wildcard actually seems to be a possibility too (not that probable, but still likely). If we beat Detroit this week and New Orleans beats Carolina, and Seattle beats San Fran, then we will be tied with San Fran for the Wild Card, and only one game behind Carolina.

The Dallas game really depends on what our record is at the time for me. If we're 10-5 when we face them I'd bet the house we smoke them in a revenge game.

 

[babydemon90]

I think we finish 9-7, and Dallas wins the division via tiebreaker. Which I'd still consider a success, after the 4 win mess of last year

 

[Long Ball Larry]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

 

[Late225]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

NFL Division tiebreaker procedures

1. Head-to-Head

2. Division Record

3. Common Games

4. Conference Record

5. Strength of Victory

From about.com after google search - http://football.about.com/cs/football101/a/nfl_tiebreakers.htm

 

[Insein]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

The way it's shaping up, I can't see us worse than tied with them going into it. Final game for all the marbles. Definitely would get moved to SNF.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

NFL Division tiebreaker procedures

1. Head-to-Head

2. Division Record

3. Common Games

4. Conference Record

5. Strength of Victory

From about.com after google search - http://football.about.com/cs/football101/a/nfl_tiebreakers.htm

Yes, ok, I know. If Dallas beats Washington, then they will be 5-1 in division at worst, so either they get the H2H at 2-0 or the division record at 5-1 to 4-2. Thus Dallas clinches the tiebreaker if they beat Washington.

Common games and Conference Record are identical now and if we both have the same records in the next 3 games, they will stay equal.

Thus, the strength of victory issue.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

The way it's shaping up, I can't see us worse than tied with them going into it. Final game for all the marbles. Definitely would get moved to SNF.

Pretty sure I heard on the radio that it cannot be flexed?

don't know why that would be, unless Dallas has already had too many primetime games?

 

[Insein]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

The way it's shaping up, I can't see us worse than tied with them going into it. Final game for all the marbles. Definitely would get moved to SNF.

Pretty sure I heard on the radio that it cannot be flexed?

don't know why that would be, unless Dallas has already had too many primetime games?

That'd be odd since they've done it the last 2 years. Giants Cowboys last year and someone else the year before got flexed into that spot.

 

[Deamon]

It's really key that Dallas lose to Washington, otherwise they would clinch the tiebreaker. If they lose that game and we win the final game and end up tied, there's a decent chance it will go to strength of victory.


We basically will need to win the final game and be no worse than tied going into it.

The way it's shaping up, I can't see us worse than tied with them going into it. Final game for all the marbles. Definitely would get moved to SNF.

Pretty sure I heard on the radio that it cannot be flexed?

don't know why that would be, unless Dallas has already had too many primetime games?

That'd be odd since they've done it the last 2 years. Giants Cowboys last year and someone else the year before got flexed into that spot.

Ya I'm not sure either. I know that if there's ever a situation where an early game in week 17 could make the night game irrelevant, then they won't show it. But I think that game could be for all the marbles despite any other game's results that week.

I'd personally not like it on SNF.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Yeah, I've been googling for an explanation and have found nothing, so perhaps either the host was misinformed or I misheard. It was important to me to listen, since I stupidly have another commitment on Sunday afternoons for the next 4 weeks (made back when we were 3-5). Any flex games would be awesome.

 

[Amused to Death]

Yeah, I've been googling for an explanation and have found nothing, so perhaps either the host was misinformed or I misheard. It was important to me to listen, since I stupidly have another commitment on Sunday afternoons for the next 4 weeks (made back when we were 3-5). Any flex games would be awesome.

I would hate the additional waiting, but would welcome the flex for 1 reason - it would be played under the lights. Not sure how the sunlight is in Dallas but for some reason the bright sun during the afternoon games has bothered me this year. First I'm really noticing it - just a sign of me getting older I guess.

 

[Insein]

Yeah, I've been googling for an explanation and have found nothing, so perhaps either the host was misinformed or I misheard. It was important to me to listen, since I stupidly have another commitment on Sunday afternoons for the next 4 weeks (made back when we were 3-5). Any flex games would be awesome.

Wouldn't be the first time a host on local radio has been wrong.For example some of them are so worried about the wash game for Dallas. They think if dallas wins that they win the division for some reason. They ignore the basic math of it. If eagles and Dallas are tied going into the final game where they play each other, someone will win and som eone will lose. So one will have more wins than the other.