*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles - NFC EAST CHAMPS*** (1 Viewer)

[Long Ball Larry]

In other news, guess is the number 1 defense vs. TE in fantasy? (Maybe 2, depending on your scoring system.)

I see them as 3rd best on ESPN.

Well, whatever. They are 1st in one of my leagues and 2nd in another.

Regardless, what an improvement.

 

[Insein]

In other news, guess is the number 1 defense vs. TE in fantasy? (Maybe 2, depending on your scoring system.)

I see them as 3rd best on ESPN.

Well, whatever. They are 1st in one of my leagues and 2nd in another.

Regardless, what an improvement.

We have a few LBs that can play fot a change.

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Foles put up good numbers but he was pretty streaky today, especially early. Last week I kind of wrote off as the weather, but he's missing high a lot the last two or three weeks, no coincidence that's when the picks have come. He led Cooper OB on what should have been a TD and the pick looked like a terrible decision and/or throw.

Gotta be something crept into his footwork or throwing motion. Last year when he missed it was short or occasionally behind not high.

I havent had a chance to check but while Foles was a bit off early on I though he came through a lot better then expected. It was a 5 point game in the early part of the 4th--what were his #'s after the Ertz TD?

Then that TD was followed by ANOTHER squib and another start at mid-field for them.

He came on really strong in the 3rd and 4th quarters, true. Even the first half numbers weren't terrible, but he (and the whole offense) just didn't look sharp. He was high and inaccurate a few times, there were drops on others. The offense's struggles in the first half put a lot of pressure on the D, and MN found a way to really burn us with their passing game. No player or unit plays at 100% all the time, there will be dips and peaks, but the fact that the defense just couldn't pick it up at any point was what decided this game I think, with an assist from the surrender tactics on kickoffs.

Yea, it was nice to see Foles has a "on" switch to throw us back in games if needed. But when Matt Cassel of all people is turning your defense into swiss cheese there isn't much you can do.

 

[Snotbubbles]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

I'm surprised the Bears ever lost a game. They're that good.

 

[JuniorNB]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

I'm surprised the Bears ever lost a game. They're that good.

LOL. My thoughts exactly.

 

[Terpman22]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

 

[JuniorNB]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses.

I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Looking at the week 17 flex situation, I would say that there are 3 candidates for based on the do-or-die playoff scenario:

Ravens-Bengals

Packers-Bears

Eagles-Cowboys

If both are do-or-die, I think that Eagles would definitely be in over Ravens-Bengals. Packers-Bears would be close. I'd say if both Eagles and Cowboys win this week, then it would be Eagles-Cowboys (since that would mean that Bears lose, so record-wise Eagles-Cowboys is better).

If Eagles lose this week, I could see Packers-Bears getting it, especially if Rodgers is back.

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

 

[JuniorNB]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

 

[fred_1_15301]

Wow how the hell have the Bears lost a game this year (let alone 6 of them)?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Looking at the week 17 flex situation, I would say that there are 3 candidates for based on the do-or-die playoff scenario:

Ravens-Bengals

Packers-Bears

Eagles-Cowboys

If both are do-or-die, I think that Eagles would definitely be in over Ravens-Bengals. Packers-Bears would be close. I'd say if both Eagles and Cowboys win this week, then it would be Eagles-Cowboys (since that would mean that Bears lose, so record-wise Eagles-Cowboys is better).

If Eagles lose this week, I could see Packers-Bears getting it, especially if Rodgers is back.

I think the Eagles/Cowboys will get primetime. Everybody in America wants to see if Romo can win a clutch game

 

[JuniorNB]

Wow how the hell have the Bears lost a game this year (let alone 6 of them)?

It's their 7th ranked unstoppable offense.

 

[Insein]

Looking at the week 17 flex situation, I would say that there are 3 candidates for based on the do-or-die playoff scenario:

Ravens-Bengals

Packers-Bears

Eagles-Cowboys

If both are do-or-die, I think that Eagles would definitely be in over Ravens-Bengals. Packers-Bears would be close. I'd say if both Eagles and Cowboys win this week, then it would be Eagles-Cowboys (since that would mean that Bears lose, so record-wise Eagles-Cowboys is better).

If Eagles lose this week, I could see Packers-Bears getting it, especially if Rodgers is back.

Which ever one Fox doesn't protect will get flexed.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Looking at the week 17 flex situation, I would say that there are 3 candidates for based on the do-or-die playoff scenario:

Ravens-Bengals

Packers-Bears

Eagles-Cowboys

If both are do-or-die, I think that Eagles would definitely be in over Ravens-Bengals. Packers-Bears would be close. I'd say if both Eagles and Cowboys win this week, then it would be Eagles-Cowboys (since that would mean that Bears lose, so record-wise Eagles-Cowboys is better).

If Eagles lose this week, I could see Packers-Bears getting it, especially if Rodgers is back.

Which ever one Fox doesn't protect will get flexed.

I didn't think Fox/CBS can protect in week 17. NBC has its choice.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Looking at the week 17 flex situation, I would say that there are 3 candidates for based on the do-or-die playoff scenario:

Ravens-Bengals

Packers-Bears

Eagles-Cowboys

If both are do-or-die, I think that Eagles would definitely be in over Ravens-Bengals. Packers-Bears would be close. I'd say if both Eagles and Cowboys win this week, then it would be Eagles-Cowboys (since that would mean that Bears lose, so record-wise Eagles-Cowboys is better).

If Eagles lose this week, I could see Packers-Bears getting it, especially if Rodgers is back.

Which ever one Fox doesn't protect will get flexed.

I didn't think Fox/CBS can protect in week 17. NBC has its choice.

That is correct, according to this site: http://sports.morganwick.com/category/football/nfl/snf-flex-scheduling-watch/#sthash.3EPOYxAH.dpbs

Rules NOT listed on NFL web site but pertinent to flex schedule selection: CBS and Fox each protect games in five out of six weeks, and cannot protect any games Week 17.

 

[Insein]

Looking at the week 17 flex situation, I would say that there are 3 candidates for based on the do-or-die playoff scenario:

Ravens-Bengals

Packers-Bears

Eagles-Cowboys

If both are do-or-die, I think that Eagles would definitely be in over Ravens-Bengals. Packers-Bears would be close. I'd say if both Eagles and Cowboys win this week, then it would be Eagles-Cowboys (since that would mean that Bears lose, so record-wise Eagles-Cowboys is better).

If Eagles lose this week, I could see Packers-Bears getting it, especially if Rodgers is back.

Which ever one Fox doesn't protect will get flexed.

I didn't think Fox/CBS can protect in week 17. NBC has its choice.

That is correct, according to this site: http://sports.morganwick.com/category/football/nfl/snf-flex-scheduling-watch/#sthash.3EPOYxAH.dpbs

Rules NOT listed on NFL web site but pertinent to flex schedule selection: CBS and Fox each protect games in five out of six weeks, and cannot protect any games Week 17.

Hmm well there you go. They could f CBS by taking the AFC game then.

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

 

[CentralPA]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Can you give me the number of your dealer? I want what you're smoking.

 

[fred_1_15301]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Yeah that just about covers it

 

[flapgreen]

Wow how the hell have the Bears lost a game this year (let alone 6 of them)?

It's their 7th ranked unstoppable offense.

You really think the Bears are the 7th best offense? Come on, you're not that far out there. Outside of the Broncos, I don't know a lot of offenses people would rather have than the Bears. Of course, an argument can be made for a few teams but the Bears are right there. The Eagles are not. Sorry, guys. You're going to take a beating Sunday.

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Yeah that just about covers it

 

[Insein]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Flap I really appreciate what you're doing for us. It takes a lot of guts to jinx their own team like that. I was a little worried about the game but the effort you're putting in here will really go a long way. Thanks.

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Can you give me the number of your dealer? I want what you're smoking.

Where am I wrong? I'm not saying the Eagles offense is terrible. They have really turned it on lately, but they're not top 5 yet. They need another wr and te to even be in conversation. Foles has played great as well, but let's see how he does in crunch time over these last 2 weeks. If he shows up, I'll be impressed.

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Flap I really appreciate what you're doing for us. It takes a lot of guts to jinx their own team like that. I was a little worried about the game but the effort you're putting in here will really go a long way. Thanks.

np

 

[JuniorNB]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Lol. For starters, Denver is #1 ypg. Philly #2. It's not meaningless. It's quite accurate. Please explain why you would say such a dumb thing.

Also, I guess if interceptions are the criteria, then Cutler would be >> than Foles. Since that's the only thing he beats him in. Or are TDs/yards/and wins meaningless stats, too?

That cover it, clown?

 

[flapgreen]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Lol. For starters, Denver is #1 ypg. Philly #2. It's not meaningless. It's quite accurate. Please explain why you would say such a dumb thing.Also, I guess if interceptions are the criteria, then Cutler would be >> than Foles. Since that's the only thing he beats him in. Or are TDs/yards/and wins meaningless stats, too?

That cover it, clown?

Breaking out the "clown" comments already? Stirring up a little trash talk. That's the extent of it. Very few people would take Foles over Cutler, outside of Philly fans. They're not even close at this point. If you're set on Foles being better than Cutler, then how about the other positions? No one wants the Eagles offense over the Bears

 

[JuniorNB]

Here are the stats between Foles and Cutler.

Touchdowns- Foles 23 Cutler 16

Interceptions- Foles 2 Cutler 10

Yards per attempt Foles 9.0 Cutler 7.3

QB Rating Foles 117.0 Cutler 89.8

LOL. Anyone saying that Cutler is better this year is smoking much better stuff than I am. It's a landslide. Cutler would be holding Foles' clipboard.

 

[JuniorNB]

If Dallas wins Sunday and the Eagles sat their starters and lost to the Bears, that could haunt the Eagles if Dallas and the Eagles tied. Dallas would win the tiebreaker.

Kelly has said it, he is playing his starters, which he should. If the second half is a blowout either way, I could see starters being pulled early.

The Eagles will lose to the Bears whether they sit their starters or not. They can't keep up.

#1 rusher vs worst team vs the run. Hmmmm...

Could be the best rb in the league, no doubt. You're going to need more than that to keep up with the Bears, though. Briggs coming back should stop the bleeding some. Jennings essentially shuts down #1 WRs so Desean won't make a huge impact. The Bears may score on almost every drive. Good luck

Why is the Bears record so mediocre if they're so hard to compete with? And the Eagles have a quarterback that can put up some decent numbers, himself. They aren't just McCoy, McCoy, McCoy. I think they're very similar teams. Great multi-faceted offenses and very average defenses. I hate the fact that it may be a meaningless game for one or both teams. I think it could be an epic shootout if it really mattered.

I think the Bears offense is far better but the defense has been worse than the Eagles. Hoping Briggs helps some. I'm saying 40-24 Bears. The offense is unstoppable.

Bears are 7th in the league with 393 yards per game. Eagles are 2nd with 414 yards per game. Explain how the Bears offense is "much better'

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Lol. For starters, Denver is #1 ypg. Philly #2. It's not meaningless. It's quite accurate. Please explain why you would say such a dumb thing.Also, I guess if interceptions are the criteria, then Cutler would be >> than Foles. Since that's the only thing he beats him in. Or are TDs/yards/and wins meaningless stats, too?

That cover it, clown?

Breaking out the "clown" comments already? Stirring up a little trash talk. That's the extent of it. Very few people would take Foles over Cutler, outside of Philly fans. They're not even close at this point. If you're set on Foles being better than Cutler, then how about the other positions? No one wants the Eagles offense over the Bears

What is better? What part of Cutler's game (other than finding the open defender) is better than Foles? Wow, talk about a blind homer. I hope you don't bet on games.

 

[Mighty Mice]

This Bears offense would be better (is better) if the Bears started McCown. Cutler two pick sixes in his first game back last week. McCown was seriously on fire. Unreal.

As an Eagles fan I am thankful this holiday season for the decision Trestman made to start Cutler going forward. Not saying the Bears can't win with Cutler but the offense definitely loses something. IMO.

Edit for spelling!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Wow how the hell have the Bears lost a game this year (let alone 6 of them)?

It's their 7th ranked unstoppable offense.

IMHO, it really depends on which Cutler shows up. If the bad one then we win, if not then it will be Minnesota again

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

So....this is where the term 'stinky bait' comes from?

 

[JuniorNB]

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless statCutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

So....this is where the term 'stinky bait' comes from?

The only one he has right are the Bears receivers being better than the Philly recievers. The line is a tossup. Philly's is vastly improved over last year. Trestman and Chip are even. Both have done a great job. And Bennett is nothing special at TE. Nor are the Eagles' TEs. Bennett is a journeyman who has been on three teams in three years. An exchangeable part. And Foles would need to play five years to throw the amount of interceptions Cutler has this season. Cutler has a million dollar arm and ten cent head. I'd take Foles over him any day of the week. And McCown.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/11/20/ranking-the-2013-offensive-lines-second-quarter/5/

Footballoutsiders has the Eagles OL graded as Number 1.

The Bears are god knows where because it is so far down I lost interest.

 

[Awful Waffle]

This is one of those games where the no huddle could really hurt the Eagles. Bears run defense is non-existent. Eagles have the best running game in the NFL. So they should be able to run the ball and keep Chicago's offense on the sideline. But with the no huddle, the Eagles defense will be on the field a lot. And I think Cutler will light them up. Hope I'm wrong, but right now I'm predicting the Bears to win a shoot out. Eagles HAVE to get after Cutler and force him to make some bad decisions.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Foles has played great as well, but let's see how he does in crunch time over these last 2 weeks. If he shows up, I'll be impressed.

I'm sure Foles is dying to impress you. That's probably the only thing on his mind come Sunday night.

 

[JuniorNB]

Foles has played great as well, but let's see how he does in crunch time over these last 2 weeks. If he shows up, I'll be impressed.

I'm sure Foles is dying to impress you. That's probably the only thing on his mind come Sunday night.

23 touchdowns, 2 interceptions and a 117.0 QB rating, but I bet he won't consider the season a success until he impresses Flapgreen.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Foles has played great as well, but let's see how he does in crunch time over these last 2 weeks. If he shows up, I'll be impressed.

I'm sure Foles is dying to impress you. That's probably the only thing on his mind come Sunday night.

23 touchdowns, 2 interceptions and a 117.0 QB rating, but I bet he won't consider the season a success until he impresses Flapgreen.

"I was just trying to go out there, get my team a win and show Flapgreen what I'm capable of." - Foles postgame

 

[Ash]

So I had a huge post written up with notes on plays from the Vikings game through the end of the 3rd, but somehow managed to lose it going back and forth between the film and the board in the browser. Serves me right for not typing it in Word and pasting it in I guess. Here's what I remember.

The Vikings played man coverage (either tight or off depending on distance/situation) with a single high safety almost the whole game. They kept the 2nd S in the box as the 7th man. This seems to be the number that will drive them away from the run. At times in the 3rd quarter they split the TE a few yards outside to take another guy out of the box.

Both Peters and Johnson had trouble with the DEs, Peters got beat cleanly at least 3 times, Johnson struggled consistently to get into his vertical set fast enough to stop Robison collapsing if not turning the corner. The interior 3 were pretty good, apart from a couple of misses on Heremanns.

The run blocking was inconsistent as well, Heremanns and Ertz had a few misses that I noticed and overall they seemed to have less success this game with the 2 double teams at the point with guys then slipping off to attack the LBs on the Inside Zone runs. For whatever reason they weren't getting off those initial blocks and to the 2nd level and the LBs were making plays. 28 of Shady's yards came on two plays, one a nicely executed outside zone, the other what looked like a broken play where either Foles or Shady went the wrong way. Outside that there wasn't a lot of space.

They key to this offense beating this kind of defensive game plan is to take the plays that are there in the passing game, and we consistently didn't see them or didn't execute. Some examples:

• They play where Polk dropped the ball in the right flat, Cooper had 2 steps on his man down the left sideline with the S stuck between the hashes. Potential TD there.
• There was a play in the 3rd where Foles hit Ertz for 5 yds or so, but missed Shady breaking open on a wheel route covered by a S, another potential TD.
• There was a play where Foles scrambled for about 5 in the 2nd Q, don't think he had his eyes downfield on that because a few yards before he crossed the LoS, Cooper broke his route towards the sideline, with his man trailing and no other defender around, another potential TD.
• Foles badly overthrew a wide open Avant on 3rd and 16 near the right sideline, would have been a 1st.
• Foles led Cooper out of bounds on what should have been a TD pass. A better player might make the circus catch and keep his feet in bounds, but the throw was off target.

Looking at the INT live, I thought he'd thrown up a 50/50 ball and got stung for the gamble, in reality it was much worse. Jackson crossed the formation in motion, nobody came with him, which should have told Foles this was zone coverage. He was under center for this play, and turned his back for the PA fake, which may have something to do with the results. Jackson was uncovered completely off the line, Prater was actually covering Cooper until he passed him to the middle S. He kind of half trailed in no mans land (probably had deep third responsibility) and Foles just launched the ball right to him, like he didn't see him. Jackson may not have seen him either, because he was so open he'd been running with his head turned back to the ball for about 20 yards. Just a complete head scratcher.

If you look at Foles on the balls which are not thrown well, a lot of the time it seems due to sloppy footwork. When he has his feet set and gets hip rotation and back foot to front weight transfer the ball comes out with decent velocity, a nice spiral and good accuracy. At times he'll plant his front foot wide to the left or not do much with his feet at all (sometimes due to the pocket collapsing), that's when the ball seems to be off target much more often. Some of these throws do work, but at least in that game there's a clear difference in how the ball comes out based on the footwork. We already knew he's not a guy like Favre or Jeff George who can throw just with his arm, if this difference is consistent he's going to need to be conscious of being consistent with throwing off a proper platform. I'm going to watch this much more closely in the last two games to see if it's just a once off or if there's something to it.

 

[unckeyherb]

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless stat

Cutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Can you give me the number of your dealer? I want what you're smoking.

Where am I wrong?

Here: Cutler>>Foles

Here by a lot: Bears OL>Eagles OL

You're not "wrong" here, just selling Shady short. He's way better than Forte. Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Don't know if you are wrong or not. Pretty major lack of data points to judge. FWIW, Trestman looks like a sexual predator, so you're wrong here too. Trestman> >>Chip

 

[fred_1_15301]

Wow how the hell have the Bears lost a game this year (let alone 6 of them)?

It's their 7th ranked unstoppable offense.

You really think the Bears are the 7th best offense? Come on, you're not that far out there. Outside of the Broncos, I don't know a lot of offenses people would rather have than the Bears. Of course, an argument can be made for a few teams but the Bears are right there. The Eagles are not. Sorry, guys. You're going to take a beating Sunday.

Now you're making me want to root for the Eagles. I hate you!

 

[flapgreen]

Here are the stats between Foles and Cutler.

Touchdowns- Foles 23 Cutler 16

Interceptions- Foles 2 Cutler 10

Yards per attempt Foles 9.0 Cutler 7.3

QB Rating Foles 117.0 Cutler 89.8

LOL. Anyone saying that Cutler is better this year is smoking much better stuff than I am. It's a landslide. Cutler would be holding Foles' clipboard.

I know the stats. Foles has had a great year and appears to be the answer to the Eagles problems at QB. That's great! Still not going to find a lot of people who would rather have Foles as their franchise QB over Cutler, much less "holding Foles' clipboard." Landslide? Wake up!

 

[flapgreen]

Wow how the hell have the Bears lost a game this year (let alone 6 of them)?

It's their 7th ranked unstoppable offense.

You really think the Bears are the 7th best offense? Come on, you're not that far out there. Outside of the Broncos, I don't know a lot of offenses people would rather have than the Bears. Of course, an argument can be made for a few teams but the Bears are right there. The Eagles are not. Sorry, guys. You're going to take a beating Sunday.

Now you're making me want to root for the Eagles. I hate you!

Don't fight that feeling anymore.

 

[flapgreen]

Ppg. Yards are a meaningless stat

Cutler>>Foles

Marshall/Jeffrey>>>Jackson/Cooper

Black Unicorn>>>>Philly TEs

Bears OL>Eagles OL

Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Trestman> >>Chip

That cover it?

Can you give me the number of your dealer? I want what you're smoking.

Where am I wrong?

Here: Cutler>>FolesHere by a lot: Bears OL>Eagles OL

You're not "wrong" here, just selling Shady short. He's way better than Forte. Shady and Forte are both elite backs but I'd give the nod to Shady by a little.

Don't know if you are wrong or not. Pretty major lack of data points to judge. FWIW, Trestman looks like a sexual predator, so you're wrong here too. Trestman> >>Chip

What makes Shady "way better" than Forte? I love Shady and think he may be the best rb in football but it's not a large gap between them. Their stats are pretty similar and Forte has had a wretched line for years. What makes them so different? Both OLs are playing well this year.

Trestman does look a little creepy, but I'd still rather have him on the sidelines. Decades of NFL experience

 

[JuniorNB]

Here are the stats between Foles and Cutler.

Touchdowns- Foles 23 Cutler 16

Interceptions- Foles 2 Cutler 10

Yards per attempt Foles 9.0 Cutler 7.3

QB Rating Foles 117.0 Cutler 89.8

LOL. Anyone saying that Cutler is better this year is smoking much better stuff than I am. It's a landslide. Cutler would be holding Foles' clipboard.

I know the stats. Foles has had a great year and appears to be the answer to the Eagles problems at QB. That's great! Still not going to find a lot of people who would rather have Foles as their franchise QB over Cutler, much less "holding Foles' clipboard." Landslide? Wake up!

Many commentators analysts, etc don't even know if the Bears should keep him. A journeyman backup came in when Cutler was injured and performed way better than Cutler did. He's a glorified Jeff George. Can throw a piece of popcorn through a wind tunnel, but has terrible judgment. He's already been on one team that didn't want him as their franchise quarterback and now his second team is undecided. Not sure what you're seeing in Cutler that no one else is. At any rate, he sure as hell isn't better than Foles. The stat difference is staggering. It's not even a contest.

 

[flapgreen]

Foles has played great as well, but let's see how he does in crunch time over these last 2 weeks. If he shows up, I'll be impressed.

I'm sure Foles is dying to impress you. That's probably the only thing on his mind come Sunday night.

It's an opinion. Foles has been very impressive up until this point. That's all he could do. If he continues along that path for the rest of the season, you may have a pro bowl qb on your hands in the future. Cutler is what he is. He will always be the gunslinger type guy. Trestman has done a lot to reel him in this season and it has shown, but he's obviously not going to be Brady or Manning. Cutler will always make you nervous as a fan. You never know if he's going to lead the team down the field for a score in 30 seconds, or throw a pick. Fortunately, he's been more under control this year than any other. You can't argue the talent.

 

[flapgreen]

Here are the stats between Foles and Cutler.

Touchdowns- Foles 23 Cutler 16

Interceptions- Foles 2 Cutler 10

Yards per attempt Foles 9.0 Cutler 7.3

QB Rating Foles 117.0 Cutler 89.8

LOL. Anyone saying that Cutler is better this year is smoking much better stuff than I am. It's a landslide. Cutler would be holding Foles' clipboard.

I know the stats. Foles has had a great year and appears to be the answer to the Eagles problems at QB. That's great! Still not going to find a lot of people who would rather have Foles as their franchise QB over Cutler, much less "holding Foles' clipboard." Landslide? Wake up!

Many commentators analysts, etc don't even know if the Bears should keep him. A journeyman backup came in when Cutler was injured and performed way better than Cutler did. He's a glorified Jeff George. Can throw a piece of popcorn through a wind tunnel, but has terrible judgment. He's already been on one team that didn't want him as their franchise quarterback and now his second team is undecided. Not sure what you're seeing in Cutler that no one else is. At any rate, he sure as hell isn't better than Foles. The stat difference is staggering. It's not even a contest.

Why does his time in Denver matter now? It was years ago. I don't think Cutler is Manning. I don't see him as an all-time great. I see him as a guy with the talent to lead a team to the Super Bowl under good coaching. There aren't many out there who think Cutler sure as hell isn't better than Foles. It's just not the truth.Not keeping Cutler was the media talking. Never a real possibility

 

[Deamon]

Here are the stats between Foles and Cutler.

Touchdowns- Foles 23 Cutler 16

Interceptions- Foles 2 Cutler 10

Yards per attempt Foles 9.0 Cutler 7.3

QB Rating Foles 117.0 Cutler 89.8

LOL. Anyone saying that Cutler is better this year is smoking much better stuff than I am. It's a landslide. Cutler would be holding Foles' clipboard.

I know the stats. Foles has had a great year and appears to be the answer to the Eagles problems at QB. That's great! Still not going to find a lot of people who would rather have Foles as their franchise QB over Cutler, much less "holding Foles' clipboard." Landslide? Wake up!

Many commentators analysts, etc don't even know if the Bears should keep him. A journeyman backup came in when Cutler was injured and performed way better than Cutler did. He's a glorified Jeff George. Can throw a piece of popcorn through a wind tunnel, but has terrible judgment. He's already been on one team that didn't want him as their franchise quarterback and now his second team is undecided. Not sure what you're seeing in Cutler that no one else is. At any rate, he sure as hell isn't better than Foles. The stat difference is staggering. It's not even a contest.

Why does his time in Denver matter now? It was years ago. I don't think Cutler is Manning. I don't see him as an all-time great. I see him as a guy with the talent to lead a team to the Super Bowl under good coaching. There aren't many out there who think Cutler sure as hell isn't better than Foles. It's just not the truth.Not keeping Cutler was the media talking. Never a real possibility

Yes, because teams with a 0% of letting their "guaranteed franchise qb's" leave, often let his contract go into week 16 of the final year of his contract. It's obviously a possibility or he'd be re-signed.

At least you're back pedalling a little bit on your Cutler love. Your backup ran the offense better... no comment to that? Foles' numbers CLEARLY (not even close) have been better then Cutlers. People are giving you the 'evidence' and numbers that you are asking for, and you shrug them off saying that the numbers that don't benefit you, aren't important. You still say your o line is better even though you were shown a link of ours being ranked significantly higher.. lemme guess, their rankings and numbers don't matter there too.

No one is taking you seriously here, if you would have came in with some objective arguments and not so obviously being a blind homer, you might get more respect and an actual good conversation comparing the two teams... but clearly that wasn't what you were fishing for here.