2014 PGA Championship - Valhalla (1 Viewer)

[urbanhack]

And Jason Day's was scrunched in between Stenson's group and Phil/Ricky.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I felt bad for Wiesberger. Every swing he took was just taking up precious daylight. I'm surprised they let him putt.

 

[Hooper31]

It is a par 5 that is reachable in two shots so that tends to lead to back ups. Additionally, I believe they shortened the amount of time between groups teeing off. This wasn't the first time the two groups were at the same tee.

Adding to this there was a par 3 in front of the par 5. When that happens it causes a chain reaction of slow down through those holes. Players end up waiting on back to back holes.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

17th hole was a par 4

 

[Hooper31]

17th hole was a par 4

Yep. See that now. My mistake.

 

[Apple Jack]

Whoever wrote the AP piece (Ferguson?) suggested it was the best PGA in decades. Better than 2000? Maybe, but was curious how he just blew right over that.

 

[culdeus]

Whoever wrote the AP piece (Ferguson) suggested it was the best PGA in decades. Better than 2000? Maybe, but was curious how he just blew right over that.

Yeah, I'd put May/Tiger down as probably the best Tiger win from a spectator point of view of the Tiger era.

The Padraig PGA where he outlasted Sergio and Curtis wasn't awful either.

 

[17seconds]

My question is... After Phil missed his chip and Rory had to 2-putt for the win (basically in the dark), what would have happened if at that point he said "I want to wait until tomorrow"...

Sorry if this has been covered, I just read the last page... Watching it, I could have seen Tiger do exactly that. After Phil and Fowler were made to let Rory play with them tee to green,

it would haven been a major **** move for Rory to not finish... and precisely a move Tiger would have made...

The only tour player I think of with the type of personality to not putt out there is Woody Austin. Maybe Bubba too.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

just playing devil's advocate here.....

but I could understand being a little upset here at the advantage Rory was given.....as Fowler said.....hey maybe if we would have been able to putt out and one of us drops one, it puts a little more pressure on Rory's second shot....I mean you never know what would have happened.....#### Phil damn near made his chip anyway.....

they let the last group tee off so they would have a chance to decide if they wanted to keep playing or not......the second shot being hit before Phil and Rickie finishing maybe should not have happened.....and what if the scores were different....would it have been handled in the same way.....playing in the last group has it's advantages, but it could also have some disadvantages....and the PGA clearly helped eliminate one of the disadvantages....

I don't know man....if I'm Phil and I lose this bad boy by one stroke.....and I see what they did to try and help the final group...I'm a little pissed....but I'm kind divided on it, as part of me is cool with taking the high road/sportsmanship and all that, but part of me isn't sure it was really handled fairly.....I bet part of Phil wishes Rory had to maybe come out cold the next morning and finish up starting with the second shot....

 

[culdeus]

Really when they caught phil on the tee at 18 they should have just stopped all 4 of them down and let it play out in the morning.

They had probably 2 minutes to make that call at the most and failed to do so.

 

[Phil Elliott]

When everyone was on 18, I was thinking they were going to have to postpone due to lightning. Especially after Rory hit it into the greenside bunker. Maybe they were just adding drama, but one of the announcers mentioned they just heard thunder behind the clubhouse. Great job by everyone taking the high road on the post tournament interviews (Rory, Phil and Ricky). I would have liked to see Phil win, but it was great to see Rory come back after a bad start. Would have been fun for Ricky to win too.

ETA: Phil also mentioned in the interview that it is a courtesy to let the players tee off of 18 in case the horn sounds. If its due ot darkness, they get to finish the hole they are on. Phil thought it was only going to be Rory's tee shot and not the entire hole.

 

[Ned]

just playing devil's advocate here.....

but I could understand being a little upset here at the advantage Rory was given.....as Fowler said.....hey maybe if we would have been able to putt out and one of us drops one, it puts a little more pressure on Rory's second shot....I mean you never know what would have happened.....#### Phil damn near made his chip anyway.....

they let the last group tee off so they would have a chance to decide if they wanted to keep playing or not......the second shot being hit before Phil and Rickie finishing maybe should not have happened.....and what if the scores were different....would it have been handled in the same way.....playing in the last group has it's advantages, but it could also have some disadvantages....and the PGA clearly helped eliminate one of the disadvantages....

I don't know man....if I'm Phil and I lose this bad boy by one stroke.....and I see what they did to try and help the final group...I'm a little pissed....but I'm kind divided on it, as part of me is cool with taking the high road/sportsmanship and all that, but part of me isn't sure it was really handled fairly.....I bet part of Phil wishes Rory had to maybe come out cold the next morning and finish up starting with the second shot....

I really didn't like the decisions made at all. I'm on the side that it wasn't really fair, and even though it was Rickie/Phil's "decision" to make, I think they were kind of pressured into it with the way it went down. Especially for Phil, I don't think he had a fair chance to really think it through with the way the guy was running up their asses on the bridge.

Sure, it would've sucked some of the drama out of it by waiting until today, but i didn't think they should've hammered through the last hole.

Playing the 'what if' game some more.... what if Rory's drive was another yard to the right and rolled into the hazard, costing him the win? I'd bet there would be a lot of people up the PGA's ### this morning.

 

[Ray Karpis]

That would the ultimate **** move if Rory said "Yeah I think I will wait until tomorrow morning for these two putts". He would have had every right to do it too

But it doesn't look like he needs to with that putt

Faldo said he'd have stopped.

Hell Tiger would have stopped before the 15th hole

Tiger won a tourney also in the dark.

Yeah... that's the first shot on this video.

My favorite was the 214-yard six iron out of the sand over water to a closely guarded green to win the Canadian Open. Was one of the most ridiculous things he ever did. It's next to last on the video.

Made even greater by the fact golfing icon Celine Dion introduces the clip.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

just playing devil's advocate here.....

but I could understand being a little upset here at the advantage Rory was given.....as Fowler said.....hey maybe if we would have been able to putt out and one of us drops one, it puts a little more pressure on Rory's second shot....I mean you never know what would have happened.....#### Phil damn near made his chip anyway.....

they let the last group tee off so they would have a chance to decide if they wanted to keep playing or not......the second shot being hit before Phil and Rickie finishing maybe should not have happened.....and what if the scores were different....would it have been handled in the same way.....playing in the last group has it's advantages, but it could also have some disadvantages....and the PGA clearly helped eliminate one of the disadvantages....

I don't know man....if I'm Phil and I lose this bad boy by one stroke.....and I see what they did to try and help the final group...I'm a little pissed....but I'm kind divided on it, as part of me is cool with taking the high road/sportsmanship and all that, but part of me isn't sure it was really handled fairly.....I bet part of Phil wishes Rory had to maybe come out cold the next morning and finish up starting with the second shot....

I really didn't like the decisions made at all. I'm on the side that it wasn't really fair, and even though it was Rickie/Phil's "decision" to make, I think they were kind of pressured into it with the way it went down. Especially for Phil, I don't think he had a fair chance to really think it through with the way the guy was running up their asses on the bridge.

Sure, it would've sucked some of the drama out of it by waiting until today, but i didn't think they should've hammered through the last hole.

Playing the 'what if' game some more.... what if Rory's drive was another yard to the right and rolled into the hazard, costing him the win? I'd bet there would be a lot of people up the PGA's ### this morning.

Rory could have chosen to wait and in the end probably not to tee off....so nobody would have been in the PGA's ###.....

for me, the biggest thing is.... one of the disadvantages of playing in the final group is that you may be playing in darker conditions and have to make some decisions based on that.....they helped eliminate that for Rory.....not sure that's "fair".....

although I thought I did hear something about the "tour" having a play up policy/rule for situations like this....

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I think Phil was in the right to be perturbed, and he handled it with grace. I do not like or dislike Phil. I actually played with him in college and he seemed nice enough. Definitely had a big ego, but what 18 year old star doesn't.

The point is, if Phil or Rickie make eagle they have a chance to win. There are probably like 10-20 cameras and up to 200 journalists running all over the place when they hit their second shots on 18. Plus the is pushing forward from those watching Rory. I think that would bother me more than the Rory actually playing up to me. All the circus surrounding the last group is insane and makes it tough to concentrate on hitting a good second shot. It is standard for a group to tee off to beat the dark, but certainly not to hit their second shot.

I don't think Phil could have stopped it for darkness with his 3 inch putt. But Rickie Fowler certainly could have with his 7 footer. Typically in USGA events (I know this wasn't one), it is illegal to play through a group without their consent and that of a rules official. Result is actually a DQ. Seen it in a US Am qualifier. I do not know if the PGA (not PGA Tour) would have told Rory to wait or allowed him to finish. But it would be tough for Rickie to do that. The backlash from the fans and media would have been crushing and he never would have gotten over it.

Funny thing is, I think it worked in Phil/Rickie's favor a bit. They knew before hitting their 3rd shot that Rory probably would make a 5 from bunker. If somehow one of them made eagle he might have tried to fly it to the hole...a tough shot that could have resulted in anything. Rory no longer had the option on the 2nd shot to play either really safe 50 yards short of the green, or attack the green from 200. He made that decision already. Whereas if Phil had holed his 3rd shot and Rory was at 200 yards, he might have tried a shot that gave him a better chance at birdie.

Anyway...it was a great major. Strong players. Good golf. Media heaven with it finishing in the dark in primetime. Only thing it lacked was a better player in Rory's group, although Weisberger did hold together better than I thought.

 

[meatwad1]

Great TV ratings for this...I was sort of hoping Fowler would break through. It seems like he is seemingly on the cusp for a lot of tournaments. I think he would be really popular (in terms of crossover appeal) if he won a couple majors.

 

[chet]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I think Phil was in the right to be perturbed, and he handled it with grace. I do not like or dislike Phil. I actually played with him in college and he seemed nice enough. Definitely had a big ego, but what 18 year old star doesn't.

The point is, if Phil or Rickie make eagle they have a chance to win. There are probably like 10-20 cameras and up to 200 journalists running all over the place when they hit their second shots on 18. Plus the is pushing forward from those watching Rory. I think that would bother me more than the Rory actually playing up to me. All the circus surrounding the last group is insane and makes it tough to concentrate on hitting a good second shot. It is standard for a group to tee off to beat the dark, but certainly not to hit their second shot.

I don't think Phil could have stopped it for darkness with his 3 inch putt. But Rickie Fowler certainly could have with his 7 footer. Typically in USGA events (I know this wasn't one), it is illegal to play through a group without their consent and that of a rules official. Result is actually a DQ. Seen it in a US Am qualifier. I do not know if the PGA (not PGA Tour) would have told Rory to wait or allowed him to finish. But it would be tough for Rickie to do that. The backlash from the fans and media would have been crushing and he never would have gotten over it.

Funny thing is, I think it worked in Phil/Rickie's favor a bit. They knew before hitting their 3rd shot that Rory probably would make a 5 from bunker. If somehow one of them made eagle he might have tried to fly it to the hole...a tough shot that could have resulted in anything. Rory no longer had the option on the 2nd shot to play either really safe 50 yards short of the green, or attack the green from 200. He made that decision already. Whereas if Phil had holed his 3rd shot and Rory was at 200 yards, he might have tried a shot that gave him a better chance at birdie.

Anyway...it was a great major. Strong players. Good golf. Media heaven with it finishing in the dark in primetime. Only thing it lacked was a better player in Rory's group, although Weisberger did hold together better than I thought.

There's a new leader among FBG golfers. Please report to the golf thread ASAP.

 

[Cyclones]

IMO if Rory had rinsed his drive, he doesn't finish the hole until this morning.

I don't have a problem with the way it played out. If Rory came to 18 with a one shot lead instead of 2, maybe I would feel differently, but once his drive was in play it seemed inevitable to me that he was going to win.

 

[TheIronSheik]

That was one of the greatest rounds of golf I've seen in a long time. I don't understand how people would rather watch Tiger (or whoever) win by 9 instead of watching that bunch play yesterday. Makes no sense to me.

 

[culdeus]

IMO if Rory had rinsed his drive, he doesn't finish the hole until this morning.

I don't have a problem with the way it played out. If Rory came to 18 with a one shot lead instead of 2, maybe I would feel differently, but once his drive was in play it seemed inevitable to me that he was going to win.

I had some doubts when phils ball got on the upper shelf of the green, at least for a moment.

Also, Rory flew his layup what? 30 yards long? That could have ended up many bad ways.

 

[Cyclones]

The 3 wood Rory hit on 10 was one of the all time great "misses" in major championship golf. For the ball to roll up to where it did when balls were otherwise stopping where they landed, even with drivers, was incredible. He admitted in the post round presser that the shot he hit wasn't what he intended to hit. That was the tournament right there.

 

[Cyclones]

IMO if Rory had rinsed his drive, he doesn't finish the hole until this morning.

I don't have a problem with the way it played out. If Rory came to 18 with a one shot lead instead of 2, maybe I would feel differently, but once his drive was in play it seemed inevitable to me that he was going to win.

I had some doubts when phils ball got on the upper shelf of the green, at least for a moment.

Also, Rory flew his layup what? 30 yards long? That could have ended up many bad ways.

Yeah, he did - Phil's eagle chip was close but to me never really threatened to go in - it took a peek a couple yards short but then it was clear it was missing.

I think if you let Rory play that shot in daylight with nobody around, the worst outcome is he puts it somewhere that he gets up and down from 90% of the time, which would give him par even after a rinse.

 

[Jayrok]

Rory is a machine off the tee. Massive drives this weekend. That is Phil's problem, he can't hit the short grass consistently and it cost him yesterday. Meanwhile, Rory is hitting driver/9 iron on par 5s.

Biggest thing from Rory's semi-collapse at Augusta a couple of years ago is it looks like he has learned to work through the pressure. Fowler has also tightened up in that department IMO. I'm looking forward to these guys continue to mature and get better.

Can't wait for the Ryder Cup. Rory will receive the hero treatment. The US team will be underdogs.

Cant' wait for Augusta either.

 

[Cyclones]

This will be the longest wait to the Masters in over a decade for me. Anxious to see if Rory can keep this going.

If you're a sportsbook, what total do you set right now for career majors for Rory? 9.5? More?

 

[tri-man 47]

Cyclones, I agree that the shot at 10 really was the key. Rory played the back nine in 4 or 5 under ...the other pairing was about even par. They had their chances before the 18th.

And I agree with Brunell in thinking Rory was the one at a disadvantage by hitting early on his drive and approach shot. They let Ricky and Phil know where he was and what his chances were. Rory's second shot in particular might have been different, depending on what the others did on the green.

I loved the fact that they finished in the dark. I can remember playing with a buddy in college days where it was so dark at the end we were going by the sound of our shots, not the sight. I this finish made a great connection to the average golfer ...letting others play up, and finishing in less-than-ideal conditions.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Cyclones, I agree that the shot at 10 really was the key. Rory played the back nine in 4 or 5 under ...the other pairing was about even par. They had their chances before the 18th.

And I agree with Brunell in thinking Rory was the one at a disadvantage by hitting early on his drive and approach shot. They let Ricky and Phil know where he was and what his chances were. Rory's second shot in particular might have been different, depending on what the others did on the green.

I loved the fact that they finished in the dark. I can remember playing with a buddy in college days where it was so dark at the end we were going by the sound of our shots, not the sight. I this finish made a great connection to the average golfer ...letting others play up, and finishing in less-than-ideal conditions.

I disagree with Rory being put at a disadvantge....if that was the case, he probably wouldn't have done it......

what would have been a disadvantage (but not anyone's fault)....would have been to:

1) wait till the fairway cleared to hit his drive

2) wait till green cleared to hit his second

both of those would have occurred in much darker conditions.....(one of the prices you pay for being in the last group)...Rory did nothing but gain an advantage here....and some might say an unfair advantage....he got to hit two shots in better conditions then he should have....unless he chose to wait until morning.....although the weather was supposed to be crappy in the morning and he might have struggled there too.....

 

[Stinkin Ref]

to me....the advantage gained by the conditions he was able to hit his first two shots in (better light and not next day) trumped any perceived stratigical disadvantage.....Ricky and Phil knew they probably needed eagle.....

 

[joffer]

The 3 wood Rory hit on 10 was one of the all time great "misses" in major championship golf. For the ball to roll up to where it did when balls were otherwise stopping where they landed, even with drivers, was incredible. He admitted in the post round presser that the shot he hit wasn't what he intended to hit. That was the tournament right there.

knew when it happened that's not how he had it drawn up

 

[joffer]

we used to finish in the dark all the time back on the high school team. i actually played really well in the dark for some reason. just hit it, no idea, walk out in the fairway and there it was. sometime after college i lost that.

 

[joffer]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I've played a lot with a guy at my club that plays some on the Texas mini-tours. it really puts things in perspective.

the difference between the average weekend scratch golfer (me) and a mini-tour journey man is HUGE (he's so much better than me its ridiculous, and he can't make any money)

the difference between a mini-tour player and the average PGA player is HUUUUUUUGE

the difference between the average PGA player and Mcilroy, etc. is pretty big.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I've played a lot with a guy at my club that plays some on the Texas mini-tours. it really puts things in perspective.

the difference between the average weekend scratch golfer (me) and a mini-tour journey man is HUGE (he's so much better than me its ridiculous, and he can't make any money)

the difference between a mini-tour player and the average PGA player is HUUUUUUUGE

the difference between the average PGA player and Mcilroy, etc. is pretty big.

Yup. I try and tell people this all the time about pro athletes. I high school, I was a star pitcher. Went to college and everyone on the team was a star from their school. That's as far as I went, but you then imagine that only the star of the college team makes the minors. And only the star of the minors makes the pros.

It really is incredible to think just how good those guys must be.

 

[gump]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I've played a lot with a guy at my club that plays some on the Texas mini-tours. it really puts things in perspective.

the difference between the average weekend scratch golfer (me) and a mini-tour journey man is HUGE (he's so much better than me its ridiculous, and he can't make any money)

the difference between a mini-tour player and the average PGA player is HUUUUUUUGE

the difference between the average PGA player and Mcilroy, etc. is pretty big.

Yup. I try and tell people this all the time about pro athletes. I high school, I was a star pitcher. Went to college and everyone on the team was a star from their school. That's as far as I went, but you then imagine that only the star of the college team makes the minors. And only the star of the minors makes the pros.

It really is incredible to think just how good those guys must be.

Putting is the obvious difference...but you can see it everywhere.

Watch a top 200 player hit a layup 2nd shot on a long par 5...it could be left center and a few yards short of ideal.

Watch a top 20 player hit a layup 2nd shot on a long par 5...it splits the fairway and is exactly 105 yards out, his sweetspot.

 

[urbanhack]

That was one of the greatest rounds of golf I've seen in a long time. I don't understand how people would rather watch Tiger

Please stop!

 

[TheIronSheik]

That was one of the greatest rounds of golf I've seen in a long time. I don't understand how people would rather watch Tiger

Please stop!

It wasn't meant to be a knock on Tiger. Seriously. That's why I said, or anyone. I save that for the Tiger thread. My point was how can anyone say that yesterday's round was less exciting and bad for golf than having a dominant player that runs away with the title?

 

[urbanhack]

That was one of the greatest rounds of golf I've seen in a long time. I don't understand how people would rather watch Tiger

Please stop!

It wasn't meant to be a knock on Tiger. Seriously. That's why I said, or anyone. I save that for the Tiger thread. My point was how can anyone say that yesterday's round was less exciting and bad for golf than having a dominant player that runs away with the title?

Who said it wasn't? I've worked in the golf business for 25 years and that's all anyone has talked about today whether they are a Tiger fan or not.

 

[Nigel]

The 3 wood Rory hit on 10 was one of the all time great "misses" in major championship golf. For the ball to roll up to where it did when balls were otherwise stopping where they landed, even with drivers, was incredible. He admitted in the post round presser that the shot he hit wasn't what he intended to hit. That was the tournament right there.

knew when it happened that's not how he had it drawn up

Did Rory ever commen on whether that was a miss or not? Sure looked like it to me, but curious what his remarks on it were.

 

[TheIronSheik]

That was one of the greatest rounds of golf I've seen in a long time. I don't understand how people would rather watch Tiger

Please stop!

It wasn't meant to be a knock on Tiger. Seriously. That's why I said, or anyone. I save that for the Tiger thread. My point was how can anyone say that yesterday's round was less exciting and bad for golf than having a dominant player that runs away with the title?

Who said it wasn't? I've worked in the golf business for 25 years and that's all anyone has talked about today whether they are a Tiger fan or not.

You're right. No one has said that golf has been boring and in decline since Tiger started his downfall. I'm just imagining all of that. Must be my hatred of Tiger.

 

[17seconds]

It's mind boggling how many levels of golf ability there are. I was #1 on our high school team so I got to play around some very good junior players. Some guys breaking 70 somewhat regularly. Not one of them even made the PGA tour later. A few were on the web.com tour (or whichever name it had back then) but couldn't get past that.

I believe pretty much all of the good young players these days are brought up with a teaching pro by their side several days a week and on the junior tours. You don't even see them in the wild. They're tucked away at a private club somewhere training like Ivan Drago.

 

[culdeus]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I've played a lot with a guy at my club that plays some on the Texas mini-tours. it really puts things in perspective.

the difference between the average weekend scratch golfer (me) and a mini-tour journey man is HUGE (he's so much better than me its ridiculous, and he can't make any money)

the difference between a mini-tour player and the average PGA player is HUUUUUUUGE

the difference between the average PGA player and Mcilroy, etc. is pretty big.

Yup. I try and tell people this all the time about pro athletes. I high school, I was a star pitcher. Went to college and everyone on the team was a star from their school. That's as far as I went, but you then imagine that only the star of the college team makes the minors. And only the star of the minors makes the pros.

It really is incredible to think just how good those guys must be.

Putting is the obvious difference...but you can see it everywhere.

Watch a top 200 player hit a layup 2nd shot on a long par 5...it could be left center and a few yards short of ideal.

Watch a top 20 player hit a layup 2nd shot on a long par 5...it splits the fairway and is exactly 105 yards out, his sweetspot.

Sort of funny considering Rory airmailed his layup on a par 5 by 30 yards on 18.

 

[grateful zed]

can we get back to tiger?

 

[urbanhack]

That was one of the greatest rounds of golf I've seen in a long time. I don't understand how people would rather watch Tiger

Please stop!

It wasn't meant to be a knock on Tiger. Seriously. That's why I said, or anyone. I save that for the Tiger thread. My point was how can anyone say that yesterday's round was less exciting and bad for golf than having a dominant player that runs away with the title?

Who said it wasn't? I've worked in the golf business for 25 years and that's all anyone has talked about today whether they are a Tiger fan or not.

You're right. No one has said that golf has been boring and in decline since Tiger started his downfall. I'm just imagining all of that. Must be my hatred of Tiger.

I thought you said: " My point was how can anyone say that yesterday's round was less exciting and bad for golf "

I'm only talking about yesterday's round.

Carry on.

 

[joffer]

The 3 wood Rory hit on 10 was one of the all time great "misses" in major championship golf. For the ball to roll up to where it did when balls were otherwise stopping where they landed, even with drivers, was incredible. He admitted in the post round presser that the shot he hit wasn't what he intended to hit. That was the tournament right there.

knew when it happened that's not how he had it drawn up

Did Rory ever commen on whether that was a miss or not? Sure looked like it to me, but curious what his remarks on it were.

yeah, he admitted he missed it. it was much lower and much further left than he wanted. the fact that he got that much roll was lucky.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

can we get back to tiger?

The defining historical moment will be when espn decides to lead with Rory's score over Tiger's.

Of course in either case it won't matter if either are actually leading the tournament.

 

[gump]

I played on some mini-tours before calling it quits at age 24. Tough to make money out there. Shooting 68s each day means you make nothing.

I've played a lot with a guy at my club that plays some on the Texas mini-tours. it really puts things in perspective.

the difference between the average weekend scratch golfer (me) and a mini-tour journey man is HUGE (he's so much better than me its ridiculous, and he can't make any money)

the difference between a mini-tour player and the average PGA player is HUUUUUUUGE

the difference between the average PGA player and Mcilroy, etc. is pretty big.

Yup. I try and tell people this all the time about pro athletes. I high school, I was a star pitcher. Went to college and everyone on the team was a star from their school. That's as far as I went, but you then imagine that only the star of the college team makes the minors. And only the star of the minors makes the pros.

It really is incredible to think just how good those guys must be.

Putting is the obvious difference...but you can see it everywhere.

Watch a top 200 player hit a layup 2nd shot on a long par 5...it could be left center and a few yards short of ideal.

Watch a top 20 player hit a layup 2nd shot on a long par 5...it splits the fairway and is exactly 105 yards out, his sweetspot.

Sort of funny considering Rory airmailed his layup on a par 5 by 30 yards on 18.

Yea..the definition changes based on level of pressure...I've seen Furyk cold shank it on the 72nd hole with the lead.

 

[urbanhack]

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[chet]

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What side of the golf business are you on?

 

[urbanhack]

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What side of the golf business are you on?

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