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2019 rookie rankings Post combine pick 2.01 (Closed) (1 Viewer)

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  • Deebo Samuel WR South Carolina

    Votes: 7 18.4%
  • Arcega-Whiteside WR Stanford

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Damien Harris RB Alabama

    Votes: 6 15.8%
  • Justice Hill RB Oklahoma State

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Marquise Brown WR Oklahoma

    Votes: 4 10.5%
  • Andy Isabella UMass

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Paris Campbell Ohio State

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Devin Singletary Florida Atlantic

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kyler Murray QB Oklahoma

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Caleb Wilson TE UCLA

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Jace Sternberger TE, Texas AAM

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Kahale Warring TE San Diego State

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dont play in this format

    Votes: 10 26.3%
  • Other (please post who you voted for so that player can be added to the next poll)

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    38

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The purpose of these polls is to get an idea of who the majority of voters prefer at a specific pick in a rookie draft. These drafts assume that all 2018 rookie players are available. For the 2QB poll there may be some variance in scoring. Some may be standard, others PPR. I think a lot of 2QB leagues may involve IDP as well so these differences are not accounted for here. Only looking at the offensive skill players in the two most common formats and also 2QB leagues, to get a sense of where the QB are valued relative to other positions, when there is actually scarcity at the QB position. For the TE premium poll this assumes the scoring format is PPR because that is what these leagues almost always are. The polls assume 12 teams and likely 24-26 roster spots as the most common format for dynasty. Short bench dynasty leagues should only care about the top 6-12 rookie players.

If a player isn't listed that you would vote for please vote other and then post the name of the player that you voted for so that player can be added to the next poll. Also please suggest players not listed that you would vote for soon, even if not on the particular poll that is active.

I am populating the poll based on @miqws list

Thanks everyone for voting. Discussion welcome.

Results so far

Standard

1.01 DK Metcalf WR Mississippi with 32% of the vote

1.02 Josh Jacobs RB Alabama with 42% of the vote

1.03 N’Keal Harry WR Arizona State with 50% of the vote

1.04 A.J. Brown WR Mississippi with 28% of the vote

1.05 David Montgomery RB Iowa State with 18%

1.06 Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State with 23% of the vote

1.07 Darrell Henderson RB Memphis with 22% pf the vote

1.08 Kelvin Harmon WR North Carolina State with 34% of the vote

1.09 Miles Sanders RB Penn State with 22% of the vote

1.10 Damien Harris RB Alabama with 23% of the vote

1.11 T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa with 27% of the vote

1.12 Noah Fant TE Iowa with 25% of the vote

2.01 Rodney Anderson RB Oklahoma with 19% of the vote (tie with Deebo Samuel broken based on miqws list_

PPR

1.01 DK Metcalf WR Mississippi with 43% of the vote

1.02 N’Keal Harry WR Arizona State with 60% of the vote

1.03 Josh Jacobs RB Alabama with 50% ofthe vote

1.04 A.J. Brown WR Mississippi with 46% of the vote

1.05 Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State with 38% of the vote

1.06 David Montgomery RB Iowa State with 26% of the vote

1.07 Kelvin Harmon WR North Carolina State with 46% of the vote

1.08 Darrell Henderson RB Memphis with 31% of the vote

1.09 Deebo Samuel WR South Carolina with 24% of the vote

1.10 Miles Sanders RB Penn State with 32% of the vote

1.11 T.J. Hockenson TE Iowa with 24% of the vote

1.12 Noah Fant TE Iowa with 50% of the vote

2.01 Damien Harris RB Alabama with 30% of the vote

2QB

1.01 Kyler Murray QB Oklahoma with 28% of the vote

1,02 Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State with 19% of the vote

1.03 N’Keal Harry WR Arizona State with 29% of the vote

1.04 D.K. Metcalf WR Mississippi with 23% of the vote

1.05 Josh Jacobs RB Alabama with 28% of the vote

1.06 A.J. Brown WR Mississippi with 35% of the vote

1.07 Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State with 22% of the vote

1.08 Drew Lock QB Missouri 17% of the vote

1.09 David Montgomery RB Iowa State with 17% of the vote

1.10 Kelvin Harmon WR North Carolina State with 16% of the vote ( tie with Miles Sanders broken based on previous polls)

1.11 Darrell Henderson RB Memphis with 12% of the vote

1.12 Miles Sanders RB Penn State with 17% of the vote

2.01 Marquise Brown WR Oklahoma with 16% of the vote

TE Premium

1.01 DK Metcalf WR Mississippi with 25% of the vote

1.02 N’Keal Harry WR Arizona State with 37% of the vote

1.03 Josh Jacobs RB Alabama with 37% of the vote

1.04 TJ Hockenson TE Iowa with 21% of the vote

1.05 Noah Fant TE Iowa with 23% of the vote

1.06 A.J. Brown WR Mississippi with 48% of the vote

1.07 Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State with 30% of the vote

1.08 David Montgomery RB Iowa State with 28% of the vote

1.09 Kelvin Harmon WR North Carolina State with 18% of the vote (3 way tie with Henderson and Irv Smith broken by PPR poll)

1.10 Irv Smith TE Alabama with 23% of the vote

1.11 Darrell Henderson RB Memphis with 32% of the vote

1.12 Miles Sanders RB Penn State with 42% of the vote

2.01 Deebo Samuel WR South Carolina with 16% of the vote (Tie with Damien Harris broken based on PPR poll)

Links to previous polls

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The next poll can be found here

 
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Curious as to why people are voting Harris in PPR, do people think he's a good pass catcher?  

 
Curious as to why people are voting Harris in PPR, do people think he's a good pass catcher?  
Count me as a vote for D Harris here....  I thought he was underutilized as a pass catching option at Alabama.  So I would expect him to get 2-3 catches a game depending on where he lands... I like him as an overall RB3-4 option.   He did have 52 catches at 'Bama, and he took 2 catches > 50 yards. 

I did not see his total "targets" but the limited data I did find had a high % catch rate (24 of 28).

 
Curious as to why people are voting Harris in PPR, do people think he's a good pass catcher?  
Do you think he isn't?

I have heard Greg Cosell and IIRC Daniel Jerimiah both compare him to Mark Ingram.

Harris had 22 receptions in 2018 (2 more than Josh Jacobs) and 9.3 ypr is above average for a RB. His receiving numbers improved every season with Alabama. He had 52 total receptions at 7.8 ypr which is average for a RB.

It is a lot better than Miles Sanders 24 receptions at 5.8 ypr in 2018 or his career numbers of 32 receptions at 6 ypr which is below average.

Josh Jacobs did have better ypr than Harris did and from what I saw he was running some WR routes. So maybe he is a better receiver than Harris is. The difference in ypr between them can likely be accounted for on that one play which was a broken coverage that Jacobs got about 50 yards on though. Jacobs has better career receiving numbers than Harris does. 48 receptions at 11.9 ypr is above average.

Mark Ingram is a capable receiver who had to split opportunities with COP RB who got a lot of targets for most of his career.

Also we are at pick 13 now and with 12 players gone Harris may be the BPA. I haven't looked at rookie ADP much, but when I did see some of that a week or so ago Harris was being taken in the top 8 or so. Higher than he is being voted for here.

 
Harris is capable but not special in that area to me.  He might be bpa at this point if you’re looking for a RB though.  

He does look smooth enough as a pass catcher but the production isn’t there, or the sample size for me to be comfortable projecting him with a 3 down role.  It’s kind of the reverse of Josh Jacobs in that he projects 3 downs because he is a pass catcher but the sample is low of him on early down.  

I think WR would be the way to go in ppr here but that’s not the point.  

 
With 31 votes in now there are a couple ties.

In the standard poll a tie between Deebo Samuel and Rodney Anderson.

In the 2QB poll a tie between Marquise Brown and T.J. Hockenson.

 

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