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2024-25 NBA Thread: Stephen A leading ESPN’s draft coverage by yelling about players he’s never heard of until now (31 Viewers)

Bears_Man2 said:
Suns take Koby Brea. Really like the player. I don't think there's a world where he's not a very good NBA shooter from deep

PG:
SG: Booker Green Beal Grayson Allen Brea Brooks & Dunn 😢
SF:
PG:
C: Mark Williams Maluach Nick Richards Oso

But in all seriousness if the Suns can spin one of Beal/Allen/Oneale or maybe even Dunn (I'd keep him personally ) into a PG, they will look a lot better. Even a band aid like Chris Paul will make the team look better. I thought Suns did well to go after defensive players they desperately needed. The effort they gave on D last season was some of the saddest I've ever seen.

Still not convinced they hang onto Jalen Green until I see it.
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If they could spin Beal into half of a KitKat bar then Brian Gregory should be GM of the 2020's.
 
Capella said:
Magic rotation now because I can do this and it actually looks good

PG - Suggs, Black
SG - Bane, Richardson, Howard — could see them adding a vet here
C - Carter, Goga, Mo Wagner likely back
PF - Paolo, Isaac
SF - Franz, De Silva, Houstan

I still think there is a trade in there with Isaac but maybe not.

Exciting!
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Is this Noah kid a JI replacement??

It da Penda.
 
Capella said:
Suns are paying to get rid of Beal. Zero chance they get anything for him other than some other team’s horrible assets.
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It was brought up on Dunc'd On that they can't even waive and stretch him because there is a rule that a team can't have more than 15% dead money on the books in any given season ($23,197,000 in 25-26). They currently have just less than $4m in dead money between Nassir Little and EJ Liddell which eliminates that possibility. Beal would have to take a buy out giving the Suns roughly $14m back to make the math work.
 
Kev4029 said:
thecatch said:
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Kings linked to Westbrook

What a great fit!!!! :tfp:
"The Sacramento Kings are considering signing Russell Westbrook in hopes of filling their point guard void, per
@sam_amick"
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I’m vomiting just thinking about watching a Westbrook, Lavine, Derozan backcourt.
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If they trade DeRozan, Westbrook isn't such a terrible fit other than the fact that they'll probably play him 25+ mpg.
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He would have been great at backup PG for the previous iteration of this team.
 
GOB said:
Capella said:
Magic rotation now because I can do this and it actually looks good

PG - Suggs, Black
SG - Bane, Richardson, Howard — could see them adding a vet here
C - Carter, Goga, Mo Wagner likely back
PF - Paolo, Isaac
SF - Franz, De Silva, Houstan

I still think there is a trade in there with Isaac but maybe not.

Exciting!
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👀 👀

Is this Noah kid a JI replacement??

It da Penda.
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That’s the speculation. Doubt he is as good as JI defensively or anywhere close but if you trade JI for another offensive talent it probably makes up that difference.
 
Deamon said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
So Ace Bailey thought he was going to the Wizards and didn't want to go anywhere else?
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Basically.

His camp was trying to push his way to one of his 3 prefered teams: Washington, New Orleans, Brooklyn.

They failed massively. Already don't like this kid.
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If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
 
Deamon said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
So Ace Bailey thought he was going to the Wizards and didn't want to go anywhere else?
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Basically.

His camp was trying to push his way to one of his 3 prefered teams: Washington, New Orleans, Brooklyn.

They failed massively. Already don't like this kid.
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You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
 
Kev4029 said:
If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
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There's a massive difference between wanting to pick where you work, and what he did. If you worked for a large company that had offices all over America and they could place you anywhere they wanted, would you go out of your way to do what it takes for the offices in less desirable cities to not want you? You wouldn't be working for that company very long if so.

You earn the right to 'go where you want' when you're a free agent. Refusing to workout for teams, return phone calls, and threaten to not show up when you're brand new to the league and someone wants to pay you millions of dollars... that's a horrible look.
msudaisy26 said:
You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
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Not sure what your obsession is with bringing up who I cheer for nearly every post but okay.

And skip a few workouts? His agent told teams he wouldn't show up and play for them if they drafted him.
 
General Malaise said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
So Ace Bailey thought he was going to the Wizards and didn't want to go anywhere else?
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Colin Cowherd was killing this kid and his agent today. In the event any of you needed some HOT SPORTS TAKES!!!111
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From Marc Spears (who is pretty reputable) on the tweeters:

“Ace Bailey story reminds me about Stephen Curry‘s father and agent asking the Warriors not to draft him in 2009 with the seventh pick so he could go to the Knicks with the next pick. Steph also didn’t workout for Warriors. Undeterred Warriors GM Larry Riley drafted Steph anyways.”


I had never heard that story.
 
Deamon said:
Kev4029 said:
If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
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There's a massive difference between wanting to pick where you work, and what he did. If you worked for a large company that had offices all over America and they could place you anywhere they wanted, would you go out of your way to do what it takes for the offices in less desirable cities to not want you? You wouldn't be working for that company very long if so.

You earn the right to 'go where you want' when you're a free agent. Refusing to workout for teams, return phone calls, and threaten to not show up when you're brand new to the league and someone wants to pay you millions of dollars... that's a horrible look.
msudaisy26 said:
You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
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Not sure what your obsession is with bringing up who I cheer for nearly every post but okay.

And skip a few workouts? His agent told teams he wouldn't show up and play for them if they drafted him.
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Has he not shown up yet?
 
msudaisy26 said:
Deamon said:
Kev4029 said:
If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
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There's a massive difference between wanting to pick where you work, and what he did. If you worked for a large company that had offices all over America and they could place you anywhere they wanted, would you go out of your way to do what it takes for the offices in less desirable cities to not want you? You wouldn't be working for that company very long if so.

You earn the right to 'go where you want' when you're a free agent. Refusing to workout for teams, return phone calls, and threaten to not show up when you're brand new to the league and someone wants to pay you millions of dollars... that's a horrible look.
msudaisy26 said:
You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
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Not sure what your obsession is with bringing up who I cheer for nearly every post but okay.

And skip a few workouts? His agent told teams he wouldn't show up and play for them if they drafted him.
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Has he not shown up yet?
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Nope.

Apparently he will tomorrow though, even though he threatened teams that he wouldn't play for them if they drafted him.
 
I hope getting picked by Utah turns out to be the best that ever happened to Ace. He can go there and focus solely on his game (and let's be honest, as great as he might be, his game is not mature); he can have his own "I took that personally" moment. In the end, lack of distractions should serve him well.
 
Deamon said:
Kev4029 said:
If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
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There's a massive difference between wanting to pick where you work, and what he did. If you worked for a large company that had offices all over America and they could place you anywhere they wanted, would you go out of your way to do what it takes for the offices in less desirable cities to not want you? You wouldn't be working for that company very long if so.

You earn the right to 'go where you want' when you're a free agent. Refusing to workout for teams, return phone calls, and threaten to not show up when you're brand new to the league and someone wants to pay you millions of dollars... that's a horrible look.
msudaisy26 said:
You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
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Not sure what your obsession is with bringing up who I cheer for nearly every post but okay.

And skip a few workouts? His agent told teams he wouldn't show up and play for them if they drafted him.
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You're looking at it from the team's and league's standpoint, not the player's standpoint. Bailey doesn't give a **** how it looks if it resulted in a better (perceived) situation for himself.

How do you feel about Kobe Bryant doing the same 30 years ago or Curry from @Yo Mama post above? Not exclusive to the NBA either - it is a very common occurrence in the MLB in nearly every draft. John Elway and Eli Manning both forced their way to somewhere they wanted in the NFL.
 
Kev4029 said:
Deamon said:
Kev4029 said:
If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
Click to expand...
There's a massive difference between wanting to pick where you work, and what he did. If you worked for a large company that had offices all over America and they could place you anywhere they wanted, would you go out of your way to do what it takes for the offices in less desirable cities to not want you? You wouldn't be working for that company very long if so.

You earn the right to 'go where you want' when you're a free agent. Refusing to workout for teams, return phone calls, and threaten to not show up when you're brand new to the league and someone wants to pay you millions of dollars... that's a horrible look.
msudaisy26 said:
You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
Click to expand...
Not sure what your obsession is with bringing up who I cheer for nearly every post but okay.

And skip a few workouts? His agent told teams he wouldn't show up and play for them if they drafted him.
Click to expand...
You're looking at it from the team's and league's standpoint, not the player's standpoint. Bailey doesn't give a **** how it looks if it resulted in a better (perceived) situation for himself.

How do you feel about Kobe Bryant doing the same 30 years ago or Curry from @Yo Mama post above? Not exclusive to the NBA either - it is a very common occurrence in the MLB in nearly every draft. John Elway and Eli Manning both forced their way to somewhere they wanted in the NFL.
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also forgetting there are 30 teams, and 60 guys get picked. the pool is incredibly small for employers to choose from.

average joe, working for some random large company with thousands of candidates where they can say "**** off, then" is completely different.

it's like when your dad says NBA players make too much money, he'd do whatever his employer told him if he made $20mm a year... but he has a GED, works 2 part-time jobs and pulls in a cool $30k a year.
 
General Malaise said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
So Ace Bailey thought he was going to the Wizards and didn't want to go anywhere else?
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Colin Cowherd was killing this kid and his agent today. In the event any of you needed some HOT SPORTS TAKES!!!111
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Does seem like this kid is making it much harder on himself than he should. Read a quote from his agent talking about it wasn't unusual because such studs like Davion Mitchell and Evan Mobley did the same?

I need to hydrate my take more, but that sounds dumb AF.
 
Kev4029 said:
Deamon said:
Kev4029 said:
If you had the power (which obviously he didn't) to pick where you would work, you would do it to. That said, I think his team priorities were kind of stupid, but I can't blame a person for wanting to live/work where the desire.
Click to expand...
There's a massive difference between wanting to pick where you work, and what he did. If you worked for a large company that had offices all over America and they could place you anywhere they wanted, would you go out of your way to do what it takes for the offices in less desirable cities to not want you? You wouldn't be working for that company very long if so.

You earn the right to 'go where you want' when you're a free agent. Refusing to workout for teams, return phone calls, and threaten to not show up when you're brand new to the league and someone wants to pay you millions of dollars... that's a horrible look.
msudaisy26 said:
You are a fan of Embiid and the 76ers with all the dirty, whiney crap he pulls, and the tanking your team does, but out on this kid because he tried to go where he wanted?

So far all he did was skip a few workouts.
Click to expand...
Not sure what your obsession is with bringing up who I cheer for nearly every post but okay.

And skip a few workouts? His agent told teams he wouldn't show up and play for them if they drafted him.
Click to expand...
You're looking at it from the team's and league's standpoint, not the player's standpoint. Bailey doesn't give a **** how it looks if it resulted in a better (perceived) situation for himself.

How do you feel about Kobe Bryant doing the same 30 years ago or Curry from @Yo Mama post above? Not exclusive to the NBA either - it is a very common occurrence in the MLB in nearly every draft. John Elway and Eli Manning both forced their way to somewhere they wanted in the NFL.
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I think he does give a **** about how it looks and is probably regretful. Maybe he was just given some very bad advice. I mean... this is his agent :ponder:

I know other players have 'forced their way' somewhere they wanted, but I don't think we've really seen it to THIS extent. It wasn't even that he didn't want to play for 1 team... it was that he didn't want to play for the teams that picked 3rd, 4th, or 5th. Cancelled all workouts with them. His agent told one of those teams that he wouldn't report to the team or play for them if they took them. He tried to play hardball and it backfired. I'm sure he will have PR people trying to save face and saying how happy he is to be with the Jazz, but he was visibly unhappy with it.
 
Nets getting crushed in all the draft reviews - as usual no one knows - but Marks definitely went all in on a type - great athletes with court vision and passing. Not so much on the shooting/Def end. If they can develop 2 of the 5 into solid rotation players then its a win. This is why 1st rders are so overrated in the NBA are so overrated. Id rather use them as currency rather than actually draft but it seems Marks couldnt find a taker - looking at the deals actually made I believe it

At least they will be a lot more fun to watch while they tank this year. I love Jordi and am banking on him developing this into a scrappy squad. Heck they won a decent amount last year with a team of cast offs.
 
Juxtatarot said:
I always kind of thought Okoro was a disappointment. Can anyone talk me into this?
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The Bulls desperately needed a SF and have enough ball handlers on the roster. Okoro is on a reasonable contract for a rotation wing and Lonzo Ball is bound to get hurt soon. He's better than Patrick Williams and can swing between 2/3.

I actually mostly like this deal for both sides.
 
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