2024 Quarterback Class Comparison- Year 2- UPDATED thru Wk. 11 (3 Viewers)

[Joe Schmo]

Ok, lets try this again:

I tracked the 2024 QB draft class last year as it was a highly touted and front loaded class with six qb's picked in the first round and Spencer Rattler going in the fifth. JJ McCarthy was on IR so didn't play in 2024 but is starting now in 2025. Top chart is how the players fared at the end of last season, second chart is this season through eleven games, third chart is career totals. I'll update occasionally during the season but not weekly.

2024 Week 18:

Rd	Pick	Team	Name	Age	Gms	Comp	Att	Comp%	Yds	TD	Int	RuAttt	RuYds	RR TD	Sack	Yds Lost	Fu	Fu Lost
1	1	CHI	Caleb Williams	22	17	351	562	62.5%	3541	20	6	81	489	0	68	466	10	5
1	2	WAS	Jayden Daniels	23	17	331	480	69.0%	3568	25	9	148	891	6	47	238	5	0
1	3	NWE	Drake Maye	22	13	225	338	66.6%	2276	15	10	54	421	2	34	229	9	6
1	8	ATL	Michael Penix	24	5	61	105	58.1%	775	3	3	7	11	1	4	14	2	0
1	12	DEN	Bo Nix	24	17	376	567	66.3%	3775	29	12	92	430	5	24	198	3	0
5	150	NOR	Spencer Rattler	23	7	130	228	57.0%	1317	4	5	18	146	0	22	136	5	3

2025 Week 11:

Rd	Pick	Team	Name	Age	Gms	Comp	Att	Comp%	Yds	TD	Int	RuAtt	RuYds	RR TD	Sack	Yds Lost	Fu	Fu Lost
1	1	CHI	Caleb Williams	24	10	194	325	59.7%	2329	13	4	52	272	3	16	106	5	0
1	2	WAS	Jayden Daniels	25	6	105	168	62.5%	1184	8	2	54	262	2	17	78	3	2
1	3	NE	Drake Maye	23	11	230	320	71.9%	2836	20	5	70	285	2	36	163	6	2
1	8	ATL	Michael Penix	25	9	166	276	60.1%	1982	9	3	21	70	1	13	101	4	2
1	10	MIN	J.J. McCarthy	22	5	74	140	52.9%	842	6	8	21	110	2	15	77	4	1
1	12	DEN	Bo Nix	25	11	237	387	61.2%	2421	18	8	50	213	3	12	73	2	1
5	150	NOR	Spencer Rattler	23	8	174	256	68.0%	1586	8	5	31	167	0	18	104	4	2

Career:

Rd	Pick	Team	Name	Age	Gms	Comp	Att	Comp%	Yds	TD	Int	RuAtt	RuYds	RR TD	Sack	Yds Lost	Fu	Fu Lost
1	1	CHI	Caleb Williams	22	27	545	887	61.4%	5870	33	10	133	761	3	84	572	15	5
1	2	WAS	Jayden Daniels	23	23	436	648	67.3%	4752	33	11	202	1153	8	47	238	8	2
1	3	NWE	Drake Maye	22	24	455	658	69.1%	5112	35	15	124	706	4	70	392	15	8
1	8	ATL	Michael Penix	24	14	227	381	59.6%	2757	12	6	28	81	2	17	115	6	2
1	10	MIN	J.J. McCarthy	21	5	74	140	52.9%	842	6	8	21	110	2	15	77	4	1
1	12	DEN	Bo Nix	24	28	613	954	64.3%	6196	47	20	142	643	7	36	271	5	1
5	150	NOR	Spencer Rattler	23	15	304	484	62.8%	2903	12	10	49	313	0	40	240	9	5

 

[Joe Schmo]

Woohoo, this time it worked!
Anywho, as we saw with Justin Fields, Sam Darnold, The Jones Brothers (Mac and Danny), et al., teams are no longer just sitting on their hands while a bust high end qb draft pick teeters on sucktitude so my question is which qb gets dumped/moved first?

 

[Joe Schmo]

Maye is a turnover machine while Williams is averaging close to four sack a game both of which are not good. Was surprised by the amount of ints. by Nix.

 

[General Malaise]

Maye is a turnover machine while Williams is averaging close to four sack a game both of which are not good. Was surprised by the amount of ints. by Nix.

The picks by Nix are part of a maturation process, IMO. 33 TD/15 INT isn't awful; just means he's airing it out and not letting the INTs impact him too much.

Peyton Manning came into the NFL after a long college career. Different era, sure, but he threw a TON of picks early on. After two full seasons it was 52 TD/43 INT. Heck even in year 4, Manning was 26/23 TD/INT.

Drew Brees was also very uneven to start, including a stretch in San Diego where he was 28 TD/31 INT.

He does need to cut the rate down for sure, but there's a learning curve and you don't want him to start hesitating out there. I think Nix needs to run a little more but that comes with big risks too.

 

[Joe Schmo]

Maye is a turnover machine while Williams is averaging close to four sack a game both of which are not good. Was surprised by the amount of ints. by Nix.

The picks by Nix are part of a maturation process, IMO. 33 TD/15 INT isn't awful; just means he's airing it out and not letting the INTs impact him too much.

Peyton Manning came into the NFL after a long college career. Different era, sure, but he threw a TON of picks early on. After two full seasons it was 52 TD/43 INT. Heck even in year 4, Manning was 26/23 TD/INT.

Drew Brees was also very uneven to start, including a stretch in San Diego where he was 28 TD/31 INT.

He does need to cut the rate down for sure, but there's a learning curve and you don't want him to start hesitating out there. I think Nix needs to run a little more but that comes with big risks too.

Yeah, I agree with you on Nix, he's a surefire long term Bronco, imo. He's got a good completion percentage and a low sack rate and I would expect he'll improve as the season goes along. He seems like he get's it.

 

[BobbyLayne]

The Bears never considered another QB is kind of wild

 

[Chaka]

Woohoo, this time it worked!
Anywho, as we saw with Justin Fields, Sam Darnold, The Jones Brothers (Mac and Danny), et al., teams are no longer just sitting on their hands while a bust high end qb draft pick teeters on sucktitude so my question is which qb gets dumped/moved first?

I would think separating 2024 & 2025 might be more informative than just listing career numbers. Year 2 is when we learn how they adapt after putting down a seasons worth of film for DCs to break down.

 

[dutch]

I would think separating 2024 & 2025 might be more informative than just listing career numbers. Year 2 is when we learn how they adapt after putting down a seasons worth of film for DCs to break down.

Good idea. I'll do a three tier setup with 2024,2025 and cumulative. Try and get to it tonight but may be tomorrow.

 

[Joe Schmo]

eta: Made the 2025 season a stand alone so we can chart the progress year over year. What stands out so far this season, with a very small sample size, is Bo Nix is really good about getting rid of the ball as he has more passing attempts and ferew sack, by far, than any of the other qb's. Nix has 25 career sacks while Williams already has 74 and is on his way to 50 so far this season. Caleb Williams needs to be better.

 

[Joe Schmo]

Thru week 5 all the qbs. are holding up ok so far with Nix still leading the pack but potential across the board. Williams has indeed cut down the sacks taken with a total of three in three games while the other four came against the Lions. He's looking better. Maye, on the other hand, looks like a guy that will be around the league awhile but is not upper tier material. He's a gamer but will have turnovers and take sacks because of his aggressive nature. Reminds a bit of Jay Cutler. Rattler is having a quietly efficient season and seems to protect the ball well but he needs to prove he's more than a game manager at this point, imo. Overall still a strong group of picks.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I think it's a great class, and will be the best ever. They've played at most 22 games in the NFL. It takes time to become a star. The list is long of excellent QBs that took 2-3 years to get comfy at the NFL speed and Ds. I guess Caleb is the disappointment because he went #1 and has to be #1 on this list to justify that pick. But his stats aren't all that bad.

If there was a redraft today, I guess I'd go Daniels, Nix, Maye, Williams. But those top 4 could be in any order come 2028.

 

[Joe Schmo]

With Daniels inactive for tonight's game we are current now through week 8 and there is some separation between the haves (Maye, Nix, Daniels), the maybes (Williams), the tweeners (Penix) the have nots (Rattler), and the question mark (Mccarthy).

Rattler was benched for a second rounder after leading the Saints to another sluggish outing and his status going forward is up in the air. Penix, while inactive due to injury, still isn't lighting things up for the Falcons. He isn't turning the ball over and he isn't taking too many sacks but he also is not putting the team in scoring position often enough. Falcons may have a decision to make by seasons end. Mccarthy is still in the starting blocks but looks ready to go so hopefully we can see what he can do the rest of this season.

As for the others, May and Nix are clearly set as their teams qb for the foreseeable future while Daniels, if he can not get injured, also looks good for the Commanders. Williams is still a work in progress, imo, and while he is playing better he still shows signs of not being totally with it as evidenced by the bad int and two intentional groundings against him yesterday.

My current rankings:
Maye
Nix
Daniels

Williams

Penix
Rattler
McCarthy(?)

 

[Joe Schmo]

None of our qbs are playing tonight so posted are the totals through week 11. Definite tiers apparent by now. My ranks:

Maye/Nix- Home run picks, will be long term starters barring injury

Daniels (injuries)/Williams (gaining experience but needs maturing)

Penix- Making strides but suffered what could be a serious injury to set him back

Rattler- benched

McCarthy- ??? Youngest of all the qbs and least experienced by far. Wait and see.