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I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.
 
I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.

I'm impressed by his deep dives and the investigative journalism he brings to the table. Seems like a lost art in today's day and age of click bait and hot takes. Well done Pablo :bow:
 
I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.
Biggest comeback in celebrity family feud history! What more do you need
 
I’m also clearly of two minds about this because I saw the PTI segment and totally agree with Kornheiser that Silver likely wants this to go away and Torre’s question to Silver: “Do you care about the integrity of the game?”
 
I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.
Biggest comeback in celebrity family feud history! What more do you need
Apparently, he was high AF whenhe pulled that off
 
I’m also clearly of two minds about this because I saw the PTI segment and totally agree with Kornheiser that Silver likely wants this to go away and Torre’s question to Silver: “Do you care about the integrity of the game?”
I think we all know the answer to that one
 
I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.
To be fair, Pablo didn't just list his credentials, some footballguy did.

I haven't done a serious inquiry into him personally, but he's from the Tony Kornheiser/Dan LeBatard branch of the ESPN tree, and was hand-picked by Tony and Wilbon to fill in on PTI when one of them is missing. My point being that he's not some out-of-nowhere hack and has garnered the friendship and respect of so-called serious sports journalists, whatever that means.

The whole premise of his show, which didn't start with this Clippers kerfuffle, was to bring serious investigative journalism techniques to sports which, as odd as it sounds, hasn't been done before, at least to this degree. On a paparazzi level, sure, but that's not what he's doing, or not all he's doing. Similar to when Bill Simmons got suspended and ultimately did not have his contract renewed by ESPN for criticizing Roger Goodell, the big (or used-to-be-big) sports reporting platforms have a lot of unspoken (to the public) incentives not to look too closely at the sports they cover, and to a certain extent a large portion of the public doesn't want to know, or wishes they didn't. These are heroes, after all. We're more used to seeing this in politics, where unflattering reporters lose access and face other, sometimes career-threatening, repercussions. It probably happens in every sphere of media and entertainment, or any area of human activity that has a public face.

Pablo has done other "deep dives" before this one that have displayed his journalistic chops, as the now-disgraced leadership of the NFLPA can tell you (they, too, displayed Ballmeresque levels of denial and dismissal before ultimately resigning). I find his personality slightly annoying and haven't listened to every episode, but I am as positive as one can be that everything he's reported has been vetted to a degree unusual in sports, and he doesn't fling around accusations just for clicks. "Fact-based" journalism is his business model, his "shtick" if you will. It doesn't mean he's any more ethical or devoted to journalistic integrity, but his success is based on that. Know what I mean, Gene?
 
I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.
To be fair, Pablo didn't just list his credentials, some footballguy did.

I haven't done a serious inquiry into him personally, but he's from the Tony Kornheiser/Dan LeBatard branch of the ESPN tree, and was hand-picked by Tony and Wilbon to fill in on PTI when one of them is missing. My point being that he's not some out-of-nowhere hack and has garnered the friendship and respect of so-called serious sports journalists, whatever that means.

The whole premise of his show, which didn't start with this Clippers kerfuffle, was to bring serious investigative journalism techniques to sports which, as odd as it sounds, hasn't been done before, at least to this degree. On a paparazzi level, sure, but that's not what he's doing, or not all he's doing. Similar to when Bill Simmons got suspended and ultimately did not have his contract renewed by ESPN for criticizing Roger Goodell, the big (or used-to-be-big) sports reporting platforms have a lot of unspoken (to the public) incentives not to look too closely at the sports they cover, and to a certain extent a large portion of the public doesn't want to know, or wishes they didn't. These are heroes, after all. We're more used to seeing this in politics, where unflattering reporters lose access and face other, sometimes career-threatening, repercussions. It probably happens in every sphere of media and entertainment, or any area of human activity that has a public face.

Pablo has done other "deep dives" before this one that have displayed his journalistic chops, as the now-disgraced leadership of the NFLPA can tell you (they, too, displayed Ballmeresque levels of denial and dismissal before ultimately resigning). I find his personality slightly annoying and haven't listened to every episode, but I am as positive as one can be that everything he's reported has been vetted to a degree unusual in sports, and he doesn't fling around accusations just for clicks. "Fact-based" journalism is his business model, his "shtick" if you will. It doesn't mean he's any more ethical or devoted to journalistic integrity, but his success is based on that. Know what I mean, Gene?

I didn't post anything here and delete it. This isn't even a placeholder.

Just nah.

eta* By the way, there are plenty of things to say and explain. But I don't want to waste my Saturday and it's the NBA and not my thread. It really isn't.
 
I’m unimpressed by Pablo’s credentials and then his lack of mastery of the issues. Seems like everybody is walking him through this as if somebody important found out and wanted their ten year-old to tell Mommy that Daddy was cheating on her because who gets mad at a kid?

Any serious inquiry into Torres might raise more questions than answers. I’ve learned you simply can’t just list an institution or award and not know what it came from or what issues there might be with merit. I wouldn’t even comment but I keep getting alerts up the ying.
To be fair, Pablo didn't just list his credentials, some footballguy did.
:ptts:
 
@Sammy3469

Last week we wondered about how many payments went to Kawhi. You mentioned...

I've been wondering that myself given that the filing was basically the end of March 2025. Maybe they made payments through then?

Mark Cuban brought this up yesterday as well. Twitter link

I hope Cuban asking will mean we'll get more on this soon. It does seem to be a very important piece to understand more about this contract.
 
Fred VanVleet tore his ACL. Total bummer for the Rockets.

What kind of backup plan do they have? Thompson as a full time PG?
I don't know much about the Rockets but would they consider Sheppard? Or is he more of an off guard as opposed to a true point?
 
I guess Rockets are only $1.25m under the first apron hard cap, so they can’t afford a FA until the middle of the season unless they clear some space.
 
Fred VanVleet tore his ACL. Total bummer for the Rockets.

What kind of backup plan do they have? Thompson as a full time PG?
I don't know much about the Rockets but would they consider Sheppard? Or is he more of an off guard as opposed to a true point?
I guess luckily for them, there's a cadre of 18-30 million dollar guards out there on teams that should be rebuilding or looking to roll assets over at some point this season if think they need the player and they're willing to deal VanVleet for a longer term worse contract. I don't know who that is, but I find it hard to believe that at least one of Quickley, Holiday, Poole, Herro, Murray, McCollum, White, Simons, Sexton, or Monk won't be available (and I'm sure I'm leaving some names out). The guard market in that salary bracket is littered with guys on potential lottery teams this year (I sure its not a coincidence)
 
Fred VanVleet tore his ACL. Total bummer for the Rockets.

What kind of backup plan do they have? Thompson as a full time PG?
I don't know much about the Rockets but would they consider Sheppard? Or is he more of an off guard as opposed to a true point?

Yeah, Sheppard and Jrue's little bro will be the main PGs now. Amen can play just about any position but was drafted as a PG so that could be interesting.
 
Also should preface my Rockets Fred replacement talk with the likelihood of a mid season trade. So many ways they can go with some package of future PHX picks and Jabari, Tari or Reed. Haven't quite decided which PG on the market works best. There was talk of it even before Van Vleet went down but I don't think Trae Young is a good fit.
 
Also should preface my Rockets Fred replacement talk with the likelihood of a mid season trade. So many ways they can go with some package of future PHX picks and Jabari, Tari or Reed. Haven't quite decided which PG on the market works best. There was talk of it even before Van Vleet went down but I don't think Trae Young is a good fit.
How much would they have to give up to get Derrick White? Would Celtics be willing to fully blow things up for this year?
 
Also should preface my Rockets Fred replacement talk with the likelihood of a mid season trade. So many ways they can go with some package of future PHX picks and Jabari, Tari or Reed. Haven't quite decided which PG on the market works best. There was talk of it even before Van Vleet went down but I don't think Trae Young is a good fit.
How much would they have to give up to get Derrick White? Would Celtics be willing to fully blow things up for this year?

I heard Simmons talking about that. Pritchard seems to be the easier get that still makes sense for both teams. I don't think White is worth what the Celtics will be asking plus I think they're likely holding for a 2026/7 run.
 
Also should preface my Rockets Fred replacement talk with the likelihood of a mid season trade. So many ways they can go with some package of future PHX picks and Jabari, Tari or Reed. Haven't quite decided which PG on the market works best. There was talk of it even before Van Vleet went down but I don't think Trae Young is a good fit.
How much would they have to give up to get Derrick White? Would Celtics be willing to fully blow things up for this year?

I heard Simmons talking about that. Pritchard seems to be the easier get that still makes sense for both teams. I don't think White is worth what the Celtics will be asking plus I think they're likely holding for a 2026/7 run.
I don't think there is much of an ability to make either of those trades until mid-season. The Rockets are right up against a hard cap at first apron (I think because they took more money than they sent out to get Durant) and pretty much all their guys are on new contracts except for players they wouldn't trade. Eason and Shepard are the exceptions and I'm guessing that the combination of Shepard not showing tons yet and him being a high pick, they aren't willing to sell low. Tari Eason could net them back a $5.5m player, I think. Who is available at that price point?
 
Also should preface my Rockets Fred replacement talk with the likelihood of a mid season trade. So many ways they can go with some package of future PHX picks and Jabari, Tari or Reed. Haven't quite decided which PG on the market works best. There was talk of it even before Van Vleet went down but I don't think Trae Young is a good fit.
How much would they have to give up to get Derrick White? Would Celtics be willing to fully blow things up for this year?

I heard Simmons talking about that. Pritchard seems to be the easier get that still makes sense for both teams. I don't think White is worth what the Celtics will be asking plus I think they're likely holding for a 2026/7 run.
I don't think there is much of an ability to make either of those trades until mid-season. The Rockets are right up against a hard cap at first apron (I think because they took more money than they sent out to get Durant) and pretty much all their guys are on new contracts except for players they wouldn't trade. Eason and Shepard are the exceptions and I'm guessing that the combination of Shepard not showing tons yet and him being a high pick, they aren't willing to sell low. Tari Eason could net them back a $5.5m player, I think. Who is available at that price point?

Yep, see bolded
 
Also should preface my Rockets Fred replacement talk with the likelihood of a mid season trade. So many ways they can go with some package of future PHX picks and Jabari, Tari or Reed. Haven't quite decided which PG on the market works best. There was talk of it even before Van Vleet went down but I don't think Trae Young is a good fit.
How much would they have to give up to get Derrick White? Would Celtics be willing to fully blow things up for this year?

I heard Simmons talking about that. Pritchard seems to be the easier get that still makes sense for both teams. I don't think White is worth what the Celtics will be asking plus I think they're likely holding for a 2026/7 run.
I don't think there is much of an ability to make either of those trades until mid-season. The Rockets are right up against a hard cap at first apron (I think because they took more money than they sent out to get Durant) and pretty much all their guys are on new contracts except for players they wouldn't trade. Eason and Shepard are the exceptions and I'm guessing that the combination of Shepard not showing tons yet and him being a high pick, they aren't willing to sell low. Tari Eason could net them back a $5.5m player, I think. Who is available at that price point?

Yep, see bolded
Yeah looks like lots of players on Rockets are locked for trades until 12/15. Eason and Sheppard are the main tradeable guys right now. Rockets have a $3.5m TPE, but only $1.25m under the first apron cap.
 
Just when I started seeing a bunch of people talking themselves into the Sixers this season, the hits have already started.

Jared McCain tore the UCL in his thumb (shooting hand). No timetable has been announced but Bontemps says it’s probably not a short term thing.

Also, reports are the team is offering Grimes 4/$39m while he’s looking more like $20m-$25m per year.
 
Also from yesterday, Jazz and Walker Kessler couldn’t agree to an extension so he will be a RFA after this season. Jazz probably saw the extra leverage this years teams have had in restricted FA and figured they could play hardball.
 
Also from yesterday, Jazz and Walker Kessler couldn’t agree to an extension so he will be a RFA after this season. Jazz probably saw the extra leverage this years teams have had in restricted FA and figured they could play hardball.
And he is also more easily traded on a rookie contract, which I suspect was at least part of the thinking.
 
Also from yesterday, Jazz and Walker Kessler couldn’t agree to an extension so he will be a RFA after this season. Jazz probably saw the extra leverage this years teams have had in restricted FA and figured they could play hardball.
And he is also more easily traded on a rookie contract, which I suspect was at least part of the thinking.
Keeping Kessler and trading Markkanen makes the most sense to me.
 
Yikes, already a tough start for the Grizzlies. Edey out 6-9 weeks, JJJ out 4-6 weeks, Clarke having surgery and out at least 6 weeks.

Scoot also has a torn hammy for the Blazers and will be out for a while.
 
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Yikes, already a tough start for the Grizzlies. Edey out 6-9 weeks, JJJ out 4-6 weeks, Clarke having surgery and out at least 6 weeks.

Scoot also has a torn hammy for the Blazers and will be out for a while.
JJJ needs to be on the Kwahi plan, no not getting free money, the load management play 60ish games a year plan. He just can't stay healthy.
 
Yikes, already a tough start for the Grizzlies. Edey out 6-9 weeks, JJJ out 4-6 weeks, Clarke having surgery and out at least 6 weeks.

Scoot also has a torn hammy for the Blazers and will be out for a while.
Edey and JJJ were pretty much expected at this point. The Clarke news is the curveball and you’ve gotta start wondering what they can realistically expect from him going forward
 
Warriors finally signed all the guys they were holding off on waiting for the Kuminga deal to be finalized (Horford, Payton, Melton, Richard).

Still no Kuminga deal, so the Nets could do the funniest possible thing and send an offer sheet larger than GS can afford and steal Kuminga.
 
Warriors finally signed all the guys they were holding off on waiting for the Kuminga deal to be finalized (Horford, Payton, Melton, Richard).

Still no Kuminga deal, so the Nets could do the funniest possible thing and send an offer sheet larger than GS can afford and steal Kuminga.
Is this possible? Doesn't GS have bird rights and can sign him to whatever?
 
Warriors finally signed all the guys they were holding off on waiting for the Kuminga deal to be finalized (Horford, Payton, Melton, Richard).

Still no Kuminga deal, so the Nets could do the funniest possible thing and send an offer sheet larger than GS can afford and steal Kuminga.
Is this possible? Doesn't GS have bird rights and can sign him to whatever?
They’re capped at one of the aprons due to some of their other deals, so the most they can offer this year is $23m.
 
Warriors finally signed all the guys they were holding off on waiting for the Kuminga deal to be finalized (Horford, Payton, Melton, Richard).

Still no Kuminga deal, so the Nets could do the funniest possible thing and send an offer sheet larger than GS can afford and steal Kuminga.
Is this possible? Doesn't GS have bird rights and can sign him to whatever?
They’re capped at one of the aprons due to some of their other deals, so the most they can offer this year is $23m.
BRK doesn't have that much space do they?
 
Warriors finally signed all the guys they were holding off on waiting for the Kuminga deal to be finalized (Horford, Payton, Melton, Richard).

Still no Kuminga deal, so the Nets could do the funniest possible thing and send an offer sheet larger than GS can afford and steal Kuminga.
Is this possible? Doesn't GS have bird rights and can sign him to whatever?
They’re capped at one of the aprons due to some of their other deals, so the most they can offer this year is $23m.
BRK doesn't have that much space do they?
Not sure any more
 
Just when I started seeing a bunch of people talking themselves into the Sixers this season, the hits have already started.

Jared McCain tore the UCL in his thumb (shooting hand). No timetable has been announced but Bontemps says it’s probably not a short term thing.

Also, reports are the team is offering Grimes 4/$39m while he’s looking more like $20m-$25m per year.

Kinda need Grimes now, whether starting or as instant-offense-6thman.
 
Warriors finally signed all the guys they were holding off on waiting for the Kuminga deal to be finalized (Horford, Payton, Melton, Richard).

Still no Kuminga deal, so the Nets could do the funniest possible thing and send an offer sheet larger than GS can afford and steal Kuminga.
I'm guessing these deals all actually get finalized on Wednesday when Kuminga's qualifying offer expires. I bet Kuminga signs a new deal tomorrow.
 
Happy Clippers Media Day!

Pablo found more payments from Balmer to a charity founded by Sanberg (Aspiration co-founder) suspiciously close to the timing and amount of another quarterly Kawhi payment at the end of 2024 - well after the Aspiration scam was known.
 
Happy Clippers Media Day!

Pablo found more payments from Balmer to a charity founded by Sanberg (Aspiration co-founder) suspiciously close to the timing and amount of another quarterly Kawhi payment at the end of 2024 - well after the Aspiration scam was known.
Cuban seems to be hiding from Pablo. Too busy to come on the pod but hundreds of tweets in the meantime and goes on Perk's show
 
Happy Clippers Media Day!

Pablo found more payments from Balmer to a charity founded by Sanberg (Aspiration co-founder) suspiciously close to the timing and amount of another quarterly Kawhi payment at the end of 2024 - well after the Aspiration scam was known.
Also that the Aspiration equity deal had a guaranteed value of $20m (which the CEO guaranteed personally outside of Aspiration).
 
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Any guesses as to how hard the NBA comes down on LAC and Kawhi if all this turns out to be as true and bad as it seems? Year suspension for Kawhi? Contract voided? LAC lose every imaginable 1st round pick for the next 7 years? Ballmer stripped of his ownership?
 
Happy Clippers Media Day!

Pablo found more payments from Balmer to a charity founded by Sanberg (Aspiration co-founder) suspiciously close to the timing and amount of another quarterly Kawhi payment at the end of 2024 - well after the Aspiration scam was known.
Cuban seems to be hiding from Pablo. Too busy to come on the pod but hundreds of tweets in the meantime and goes on Perk's show
This morning on Twitter, Cuban asked to be on his show again. He are Pablo are coordinating. :popcorn:
 
Any guesses as to how hard the NBA comes down on LAC and Kawhi if all this turns out to be as true and bad as it seems? Year suspension for Kawhi? Contract voided? LAC lose every imaginable 1st round pick for the next 7 years? Ballmer stripped of his ownership?
It doesn't seem that they can suspend Kawhi under the CBA. My guess is Ballmer and other Clipper people (Wong?) would be suspended for a year (the max). From memory, I think there is a max $7.5 million fine for the franchise. I think those would happen in addition to the loss of multiple first round picks. For Kawhi, he could have to pay back money he received from Aspiration. His contract could also be voided and be barred from re-signing with the Clippers but exactly how that would work (would there still be a cap hold for the Clippers?) seems to be unknown.
 
Happy Clippers Media Day!

Pablo found more payments from Balmer to a charity founded by Sanberg (Aspiration co-founder) suspiciously close to the timing and amount of another quarterly Kawhi payment at the end of 2024 - well after the Aspiration scam was known.
Cuban seems to be hiding from Pablo. Too busy to come on the pod but hundreds of tweets in the meantime and goes on Perk's show
This morning on Twitter, Cuban asked to be on his show again. He are Pablo are coordinating. :popcorn:
I'd like Pablo to investigate why he sold the team. Still seems really bizarre to me.
 
Any guesses as to how hard the NBA comes down on LAC and Kawhi if all this turns out to be as true and bad as it seems? Year suspension for Kawhi? Contract voided? LAC lose every imaginable 1st round pick for the next 7 years? Ballmer stripped of his ownership?
It doesn't seem that they can suspend Kawhi under the CBA. My guess is Ballmer and other Clipper people (Wong?) would be suspended for a year (the max). From memory, I think there is a max $7.5 million fine for the franchise. I think those would happen in addition to the loss of multiple first round picks. For Kawhi, he could have to pay back money he received from Aspiration. His contract could also be voided and be barred from re-signing with the Clippers but exactly how that would work (would there still be a cap hold for the Clippers?) seems to be unknown.
There was some speculation that the NBA is going to see this drag out until spring if part of the punishment will be voiding Kawhi's contract so there isn't some sort of unfair advantage in somebody like the Lakers signing him for a playoff push. They could also wait until his knee gives out in December.
 
There isn't some catch-all term in the CBA for actions detrimental to the league/game? Such circumvention of the the cap/CBA by a player, his agent, or otherwise authorized representative is willful misconduct and/or fraud.
 
There isn't some catch-all term in the CBA for actions detrimental to the league/game? Such circumvention of the the cap/CBA by a player, his agent, or otherwise authorized representative is willful misconduct and/or fraud.
They can punish / ban the agent. They already put into place an anti-Uncle Dennis rule after 2019 to outlaw any non-agents from negotiating deals, but they could probably more specifically ban him from any future connection with the league.

I’d be shocked if the players union would be happy with terminating a sponsorship deal, but terminating his contract could impact Kawhi financially (unless someone else gives him another max deal next year).
 
Trying to imagine what the league would / could do if the Clippers went out and traded all their remaining draft picks for a player / players while the investigation is still ongoing.
 

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