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2025 Detroit Lions: 4-1 Lions win battle of the big cats. (209 Viewers)

Ben Johnson interview schedule:

Las Vegas Raiders and New England Patriots on Friday and the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars on Saturday.

Jeremy Fowler reporting Johnson may stay with the Lions, and insists this is not a leverage play.

:shrug:
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Cowboysfan8 said:
Leroy Hoard said:
If a coach leaves to go elsewhere for a promotion to another team I'm assuming he wasn't going to be offered the same promotion here. Why jump off the Love Boat to hitch a ride to what could be the S.S. Titanic. 🧊 🚢
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From what I've read assistant wages are rarely released so it's impossible to know for sure if that's the reason for leaving. But they generally fall into a range that's not totally out of whack.
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Rumor certainly is that the Lions made him the highest paid assistant in the NFL for this season to keep him and he's making close to what Campbell is.
 
BobbyLayne said:
Ben Johnson interview schedule:

Las Vegas Raiders and New England Patriots on Friday and the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars on Saturday.

Jeremy Fowler reporting Johnson may stay with the Lions, and insists this is not a leverage play.

:shrug:
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I won't be surprised if he stays. The open jobs aren't all that good. Three teams don't have a franchise QB (Jets, Raiders, Saints). The Jags do but keeping their GM sure doesn't help. The Bears aren't much better. The Patriots might be but I think Vrabel is going there.

I don't think any of these teams have a really good situation.
 
Zeppelin said:
BobbyLayne said:
Ben Johnson interview schedule:

Las Vegas Raiders and New England Patriots on Friday and the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars on Saturday.

Jeremy Fowler reporting Johnson may stay with the Lions, and insists this is not a leverage play.

:shrug:
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I won't be surprised if he stays. The open jobs aren't all that good. Three teams don't have a franchise QB (Jets, Raiders, Saints). The Jags do but keeping their GM sure doesn't help. The Bears aren't much better. The Patriots might be but I think Vrabel is going there.

I don't think any of these teams have a really good situation.
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I mentioned in an earlier post that five of the six teams were retaining their GM. Today the Raiders fired Tom Telesco, which was hardly a reassuring move. So basically the options are:

Bears -- potential franchise QB, poor ownership, mediocre GM still hanging on
Saints -- absentee owner, somewhat well-regarded GM, no QB, cap reckoning has been put off forever but will probably hit eventually
Raiders -- incompetent owner who gets itchy if he hasn't fired a coach in the past two years, no GM, no QB, no organizational plan
Pats -- potential franchise QB, lightly regarded GM, no skill position talent, still operating in the shadow of a legend, job will probably go to Vrabel
Jags -- incompetent owner, GM who's only good at winning power struggles with coaches, middling QB making franchise money
Jets -- (gesticulates wildly)

I'm sure Ben would love to do what Campbell did and resuscitate a down-and-out franchise. But if you're not set up for success, you'll just be the latest chapter in their down-and-out-ness
 
Da Guru said:
Moonlight said:
Reported that Chris Spielman will be interviewed for Jets GM job.
Losing him would be major loss.
Came on board to make things right in Detroit after years in broadcast booth.
Was advisor to Sheila and said to have been responsible for hiring DC and Holmes. I remember reading that he was content working behind the scenes. So wonder what if anything has changed.
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It would be a loss but not a major loss. The right people are now in place.

Chris does not draft or coach the players, he was part of the team that hired DC-Holmes who do that.

Not saying Sheila will miss him as a sounding board but With those two running the team the loss of Chris does not have as much impact on the actual teams
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BobbyLayne said:
Ben Johnson interview schedule:

Las Vegas Raiders and New England Patriots on Friday and the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars on Saturday.

Jeremy Fowler reporting Johnson may stay with the Lions, and insists this is not a leverage play.

:shrug:
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Johnson’s success as well as Campbell’s has been significantly supported by having a premium GM in Holmes. The GM needs to be stable and competent and the usual rule is that the GM picks the coach not vice versa.
 
BobbyLayne said:
Ben Johnson interview schedule:

Las Vegas Raiders and New England Patriots on Friday and the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars on Saturday.

Jeremy Fowler reporting Johnson may stay with the Lions, and insists this is not a leverage play.

:shrug:
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My uneducated opinion is AG is gone, he is what teams are looking for now after watching the Lions and DC. Jets are a dumpster fire but so were the Lions. They are looking for a HC out of the DC mold and Glenn fits the bill.

Ben 50-50, going to have to be the right situation. Right now he is proably having second thoughs about not taking the Washington job but that worked out for Lions. Thinking he stays on as OC-Assistant HC so they can give him a nice raise. The assistant HC part only if AG leaves.

Again, I have zero data to back any of this up. :-)


Reading old article I did not know Atlanta had Holmes as a finalist for their GM job but decided on Terry Fontenot instead, and that Holmes was not on the original top 10 to interview for the Lions. Timing is everything. Holmes did not get Falcon job and then was able to get an interview with Lions and sold them. That is why all HC and GM candidates should take the interviews.
 
Lions 1st Team All Pro

WR Amon-Ra St. Brown
RT: Penei Sewell
S:m Kerby Joseph
P Jack Fox

Lions 2nd Team All Pro

RB Jah Gibbs
C Frank Ragnow
PR Kalif Raymond

ETA

Forgot only 1 RB - Barkley (146) & Henry (52) dominated voting, Gibbs had 2 votes

Jamo, Gibbs, Zeitler, Hutch (lol 5 g), Anzalone, Campbell, Branch, & Hatten also received votes
 
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The fact that Campbell in his presser called out that AG should get an HC job indicates AG is ready to move on at the first decent offer. I think BJ is still on the fence in leaving. He is very sharp and knows what he has in Detroit and understands the responsibilities, pressure and risks involved in being a head coach. Detroit is the most watched team in the NFL and BJ is already getting lots of glory. Probably more so than most head coaches. I would not be surprised if Ben is already making north of $1.5 million.
 
I noticed today that PFR has released it's AV stats for the year.

Top Ten:

Approximate Value
  1. Lamar Jackson • BAL • 21
  2. Josh Allen • BUF • 20
  3. Jayden Daniels • WAS 20
  4. Penei Sewell • DET 19
  5. Saquon Barkley • PHI 18
  6. Zack Baun • PHI 18
  7. Jared Goff • DET 18
  8. Tristan Wirfs • TAM 18
  9. Myles Garrett • CLE 17
  10. Jahmyr Gibbs • DET 17
  11. Cameron Heyward • PIT 17
  12. Baker Mayfield • TAM 17
Other Lions players AV:
  • Kerby Joseph 14
  • Amon-Ra St Brown 14
  • Frank Ragnow 11
  • Jameson Williams 10
  • Brian Branch 8
  • Jack Campbell 8
  • Taylor Decker 8
  • Graham Glasgow 8
  • Sam LaPorta 8
  • DJ Reader 7
  • Alim McNeill 7
Sevaral players each at 5, 4, 3, et al.
 
Much love to:

Jared Goff
Jamaal Williams,s David Montomery, Jahmyr Gibbs
Sam LaPorta, Brock Wright
Amon Ra, Waymo, Kalif Raymond, Tim Patrick, Alllen Robinson, Josh Reynolds
 
jon_mx said:
The fact that Campbell in his presser called out that AG should get an HC job indicates AG is ready to move on at the first decent offer. I think BJ is still on the fence in leaving. He is very sharp and knows what he has in Detroit and understands the responsibilities, pressure and risks involved in being a head coach. Detroit is the most watched team in the NFL and BJ is already getting lots of glory. Probably more so than most head coaches. I would not be surprised if Ben is already making north of $1.5 million.
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Sure, but just because he's ready doesn't mean it will happen. Andy Reid spent years singing Eric Bienemy's praises in similar situations.

That said, AG should absolutely go for it if he feels like the timing is right. You never know when the window will close. Remember when Teryl Austin was guaranteed to get a HC job? Or look at Bobby Slowik, who was nearly as hot a prospect as Ben last year but now may be in danger of losing his job if he can't turn things around
 
BobbyLayne said:
Watching Tomlin punt on 4th & 1 / 4th & 2 playing against one of the best offenses in the league makes me grateful we have Crazy Dan Gamble
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Most non Steelers fans are in shock when Steelers fans say they want Tomlin gone. “But he hasn’t had a losing season ever”. “Who are you going to replace him with?” “He will instantly be the most coveted coach”. Blah, blah, blah. Dude is literally outcoached in every single playoff game. His in game coaching is atrocious to say the least.
 
QBs coming to Ford Field in 2025:

• Caleb Williams
• Jordan Love
• Darnold, some other vet or JJ McCarthy
• Dak Prescott
• Giants TBD (possibly a rookie)
• Browns TBD (possibly a rookie)
• Steelers TBD
• Baker Mayfield
 
QBs Lions will face on the road in 2025:

• Caleb Williams
• Jordan Love
• Darnold, some other vet or JJ McCarthy
• Jalen Hurts
• Jayden Daniels
• Matthew Stafford
• Lamar Jackson
• Joe Burrow
• Patrick Mahomes
 
2025 Detroit Lions Mock Draft
  • A- Pick 32 Tyleik Williams DI Ohio State
    would have preferred ED (Landon Jackson Ark might fit here) but top 6 were off the boards; 6'3" 327 good movement skills for his size, impressive upper body strength
  • A Pick 64 Chris Paul Jr LB Mississippi
    Plus instincts and play recognition skills, advanced pattern match ability in zone coverage with fluid backpedal and natural feel for passing windows, textbook wrap-up tackler who brings his feet through contact, demonstrates elite finishing ability in the box
  • A Pick 131 Jaeden Roberts G Alabama
    building OL depth both guards are early to mid 30s
  • B Pick 195 Daylan Carnell S Missouri
    6'2" 218 ball separator
  • A- Pick 226 Aaron Smith LB South Carolina State
    good run D + decent coverage
  • A Pick 246 Elijah Alston ED Miami (FL)
    sorry Hutch you're gonna have to be a solo virtuoso again
 
Zeppelin said:
I'm glad Aaron Glenn didn't participate in the sham interviews with the Patriots, who were obviously skirting the Rooney rule.
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Teams are being more habitual line steppers wrt the Rooney Rule because everyone knows with the Brian Flores lawsuit out there, the NFL will do absolutely nothing to punish offenders. Soon as they do it would become Exhibit A in that lawsuit. Cannot remember who did this but one of the clubs interviewed a minority candidate as their first or second interview, and the same day their media team tweeted "The _______ have completed interviews with _______ and ______, so the teams is now free to hire whomever they want."
 
So Commanders it is! Saturday night.

I mentioned the other day that I'm a lifelong fan of both teams, but my loyalties next week will be clear. Washington has had a great season, but they are playing with house money. Detroit is Super Bowl or bust. (Ironically enough, when they met in the 1991 NFCCG, I had the opposite reaction. I cheered for Detroit since Washington had already won a bunch of titles, whereas the Lions had never even been to the Super Bowl. But I also knew they had no chance.)

There's a part of me that wants to see Minnesota win tomorrow so that the Vikes and Eagles can spend next week beating the crap out of each other. But ultimately I don't really care. I genuinely believe Lions can take any of them
 
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DIVISIONAL ROUND SCHEDULE

SAT 4:30 ET - Texans at Chiefs ESPN/ABC
SAT 8:00 ET - Commanders at Lions FOX

SUN 2:00 ET - Vikings/Rams at Eagles NBC
SUN 6:30 ET - Ravens at Bills CBS
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Early lines: Chiefs -8.5, total 42.5
Lions -8.5, total 55.5

TBD
Bills -1.5, total 51.5
 
According to the website for the Detroit Free Press, the Lions are 0-3 in their playoff history with Washington. But that's only because all 3 games were in Washington. This Saturday marks the first time the Lions will have the home field advantage.

Lions 35, Commanders 17
 
Tbh, I’m looking forward to playing against a new opponent !! We’ve had the Vikings number but getting a bit sick of the sight of them and we’ve obviously played the Rams in playoffs last year and regular season this year.
 
One of the Raiders minority share owners will be calling the game Sunday. I know, not allowed to take part in pregame production meetings, but that's still pretty wild.
 
Yogibear said:
According to the website for the Detroit Free Press, the Lions are 0-3 in their playoff history with Washington. But that's only because all 3 games were in Washington. This Saturday marks the first time the Lions will have the home field advantage.

Lions 35, Commanders 17
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I don't know when the other two were, but they weren't beating the Skins in '91 no matter where the game was played (nobody else was beating them that year, either). That was one of the best teams in NFL history.
 
Uruk-Hai said:
Yogibear said:
According to the website for the Detroit Free Press, the Lions are 0-3 in their playoff history with Washington. But that's only because all 3 games were in Washington. This Saturday marks the first time the Lions will have the home field advantage.

Lions 35, Commanders 17
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I don't know when the other two were, but they weren't beating the Skins in '91 no matter where the game was played (nobody else was beating them that year, either). That was one of the best teams in NFL history.
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1982 ~ strike season, Lions (4-5) only got in because of the one-off 16 team playoff format. 31-7 blowout.

1999 - first year after Barry, 8-8 WC team. Redskins led 27-0 at halftime.
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Uruk-Hai said:
they weren't beating the Skins in '91 no matter where the game was played (nobody else was beating them that year, either). That was one of the best teams in NFL history.
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I remember trying to talk my friends out of taking Detroit plus the points. That was the one time they wished they had listened to me.
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What WAS the spread on that game? Do you recall? I was gambling a lot back then and am sure I bet that game, but I can't remember what the line was (probably because of all the booze and drugs I was doing at the time).
 
Uruk-Hai said:
Leroy Hoard said:
Uruk-Hai said:
they weren't beating the Skins in '91 no matter where the game was played (nobody else was beating them that year, either). That was one of the best teams in NFL history.
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I remember trying to talk my friends out of taking Detroit plus the points. That was the one time they wished they had listened to me.
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What WAS the spread on that game? Do you recall? I was gambling a lot back then and am sure I bet that game, but I can't remember what the line was (probably because of all the booze and drugs I was doing at the time).
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Per sports odds history website it was Washington -14. Final score was 41-10.
 
Yogibear said:
According to the website for the Detroit Free Press, the Lions are 0-3 in their playoff history with Washington. But that's only because all 3 games were in Washington. This Saturday marks the first time the Lions will have the home field advantage.

Lions 35, Commanders 17
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Last loss was Joe Gibbs vs Wayne Fontes. Erik Kramer was the QB. Barry, Herman, Perriman, Willie Green, Mike Farr. Andre Ware got a few snaps that game too as offense was horrible in the 41-10 loss.

Impressed with Daniels last night. Lions 34-Skins 27
 
I always find it weird that one team from each conference gets an extra day of rest. You'd think they'd just do one Saturday and the other Sunday to make things even.
 
Yogibear said:
According to the website for the Detroit Free Press, the Lions are 0-3 in their playoff history with Washington. But that's only because all 3 games were in Washington. This Saturday marks the first time the Lions will have the home field advantage.

Lions 35, Commanders 17
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I mean Lions were 0-everything against any team they faced (other than Dallas) between 1957-2023.
 
BobbyLayne said:
Uruk-Hai said:
Yogibear said:
According to the website for the Detroit Free Press, the Lions are 0-3 in their playoff history with Washington. But that's only because all 3 games were in Washington. This Saturday marks the first time the Lions will have the home field advantage.

Lions 35, Commanders 17
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I don't know when the other two were, but they weren't beating the Skins in '91 no matter where the game was played (nobody else was beating them that year, either). That was one of the best teams in NFL history.
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1982 ~ strike season, Lions (4-5) only got in because of the one-off 16 team playoff format. 31-7 blowout.

1999 - first year after Barry, 8-8 WC team. Redskins led 27-0 at halftime.
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I remember all three games, and at no point during any of them did I think Detroit had a chance. Two of those Washington teams would go on to win the Super Bowl, and while the third one was nothing special, that Lions team was going nowhere
 
ignatiusjreilly said:
So Commanders it is! Saturday night.

I mentioned the other day that I'm a lifelong fan of both teams, but my loyalties next week will be clear. Washington has had a great season, but they are playing with house money. Detroit is Super Bowl or bust. (Ironically enough, when they met in the 1991 NFCCG, I had the opposite reaction. I cheered for Detroit since Washington had already won a bunch of titles, whereas the Lions had never even been to the Super Bowl. But I also knew they had no chance.)

There's a part of me that wants to see Minnesota win tomorrow so that the Vikes and Eagles can spend next week beating the crap out of each other. But ultimately I don't really care. I genuinely believe Lions can take any of them
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Sorry for your win/loss.
 
Desert_Power said:
ignatiusjreilly said:
So Commanders it is! Saturday night.

I mentioned the other day that I'm a lifelong fan of both teams, but my loyalties next week will be clear. Washington has had a great season, but they are playing with house money. Detroit is Super Bowl or bust. (Ironically enough, when they met in the 1991 NFCCG, I had the opposite reaction. I cheered for Detroit since Washington had already won a bunch of titles, whereas the Lions had never even been to the Super Bowl. But I also knew they had no chance.)

There's a part of me that wants to see Minnesota win tomorrow so that the Vikes and Eagles can spend next week beating the crap out of each other. But ultimately I don't really care. I genuinely believe Lions can take any of them
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Sorry for your win/loss.
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My 9-year-old has become a huge football fan over the past couple years. This morning I randomly happened on a photo from a few months ago where he's wearing a Lions shirt and Commanders hat. I think I'll have him repeat that outfit on Saturday
 
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