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25 years ago today, James "Buster" Douglas (1 Viewer)

Usually when I hear these "This [event] happened X years ago" stories my initial reaction is that I can't believe it was that long ago. This one seems right for some reason. In fact I may have guessed it was even longer.

 
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Got soft and lost his only title defense 8 months later to Holyfield...

 
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At the time I couldn't stand Tyson and was very happy when he hit the canvas. Thru the years the idiot kind of grew on me. After the Hangover movie I actually thought he was funny and likable. Strange how 25 years changes things.

 
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Man has boxing fallen off the map. I remember I was on a ski vacation during this fight. We all gathered around to watch, it was something not to be missed.

Now I have no idea who the heavyweight champ is or when the last championship bout was.

 
I remember watching that fight on HBO with my brother and buddies. I kept saying that, even though Douglas was killing Tyson, he needed a knock out to win. Sure enough, when the score cards were revealed, Tyson was winning on one and one other was a draw.

King had the boxing world by the balls back than.

 
Ditka Butkus said:
At the time I couldn't stand Tyson and was very happy when he hit the canvas. Thru the years the idiot kind of grew on me. After the Hangover movie I actually thought he was funny and likable. Strange how 25 years changes things.
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Mike Tyson Mysteries is pretty funny.

Someone made the comparison to George Foreman. I'm too young to know, but they said there was a time that Foreman was a mean, scary man. Now, he's a lovable guy. So much, most people don't even know the part about him being a mean, scary, bad man. Tyson seems like he's on the same type of career path.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Ditka Butkus said:
At the time I couldn't stand Tyson and was very happy when he hit the canvas. Thru the years the idiot kind of grew on me. After the Hangover movie I actually thought he was funny and likable. Strange how 25 years changes things.
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Mike Tyson Mysteries is pretty funny.Someone made the comparison to George Foreman. I'm too young to know, but they said there was a time that Foreman was a mean, scary man. Now, he's a lovable guy. So much, most people don't even know the part about him being a mean, scary, bad man. Tyson seems like he's on the same type of career path.
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I wonder what type of cooking apparatus he will endorse for ears and children.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Ditka Butkus said:
At the time I couldn't stand Tyson and was very happy when he hit the canvas. Thru the years the idiot kind of grew on me. After the Hangover movie I actually thought he was funny and likable. Strange how 25 years changes things.
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Mike Tyson Mysteries is pretty funny.

Someone made the comparison to George Foreman. I'm too young to know, but they said there was a time that Foreman was a mean, scary man. Now, he's a lovable guy. So much, most people don't even know the part about him being a mean, scary, bad man. Tyson seems like he's on the same type of career path.
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Yeah if I remember right Foreman was like Marshawn Lynch. Didn't want anything to do with the media. A bit ornery and smug.

 
Foosball God said:
Man has boxing fallen off the map. I remember I was on a ski vacation during this fight. We all gathered around to watch, it was something not to be missed.

Now I have no idea who the heavyweight champ is or when the last championship bout was.
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Agreed...although hopefully Deontay Wilder can fight and beat reigning champ Klitschko soon, which would be the first unified American Champ in over a decade.

 
This is one of those never forget where you were moments. Heavyweight title fights were so huge and they were almost always disappointing during that era.

 
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Deranged Hermit said:
I remember watching that fight on HBO with my brother and buddies. I kept saying that, even though Douglas was killing Tyson, he needed a knock out to win. Sure enough, when the score cards were revealed, Tyson was winning on one and one other was a draw.

King had the boxing world by the balls back than.
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Big part of why the sweet science is now a dinosaur.

 
MikeIke said:
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MikeIke said:
I made about $800 on that fight. Pretty good for a 16 year old.
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Do you remember the odds?
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I thought they were off the board at fight time?
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This was just among high school buddies. Living in Columbus, where Buster was from, and being friends with a cousin of his I was sure he was going to win. I was betting $5 and $10 with guys that would pay me $100 if he won.
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I ran into his manager at White Castle on Clime Road I think...early '93 I think. He had another fighter from the area at the time that was working his way up the ladder. Told me he'd get me free tickets anytime I wanted 'em.

 
Ditka Butkus said:
TheIronSheik said:
Ditka Butkus said:
At the time I couldn't stand Tyson and was very happy when he hit the canvas. Thru the years the idiot kind of grew on me. After the Hangover movie I actually thought he was funny and likable. Strange how 25 years changes things.
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Mike Tyson Mysteries is pretty funny.

Someone made the comparison to George Foreman. I'm too young to know, but they said there was a time that Foreman was a mean, scary man. Now, he's a lovable guy. So much, most people don't even know the part about him being a mean, scary, bad man. Tyson seems like he's on the same type of career path.
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Yeah if I remember right Foreman was like Marshawn Lynch. Didn't want anything to do with the media. A bit ornery and smug.
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Foreman was a bit touchy over Ali getting all the press.

 
Cus died, Robin Givens took him apart, Mike changed his crew, Don King came along and more importantly he stopped using his peekaboo and jabs.

I predicted he'd lose to Frank Bruno a couple fights earlier...but Bruno just headhunted and didn't go to the body at all...so even though he stunned Tyson more than anyone to date...he lost.

Was amazed but not shocked that Douglas won. I knew it was inevitable. The wheels had come off.

 
tdoss said:
Cus died, Robin Givens took him apart, Mike changed his crew, Don King came along and more importantly he stopped using his peekaboo and jabs.

I predicted he'd lose to Frank Bruno a couple fights earlier...but Bruno just headhunted and didn't go to the body at all...so even though he stunned Tyson more than anyone to date...he lost.

Was amazed but not shocked that Douglas won. I knew it was inevitable. The wheels had come off.
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Rooney loss was huge

 
Devastating loss. You knew Tyson was taking it lightly by all the celebrity treatment he was getting. I was a big Tyson fan and was just in shock when he went down. The first time I heard about him was on a local news report after very early in his career. I used to scan the newspapers after his fights after that to find the results.

Such a great time for boxing. Really miss it. Still a big fan of his and am glad he seems on a good track now.

And yeah, Mike Tyson Mysteries is pretty funny. Mostly for Norm as the pigeon.

 
I'm reading Tyson's book right now. It's awesome!

I just finished the part about this fight, and he talks about how much he partied and didn't train leading up to the fight. The book is a great read for anyone who grew up watching him.

 
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I'm reading Tyson's book right now. It's awesome!

I just finished the part about this fight, and he talks about how much he partied and didn't train leading up to the fight. The book is a great read for anyone who grew up watching him.
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Undisputed Truth?

 
jamny said:
kutta said:
I'm reading Tyson's book right now. It's awesome!

I just finished the part about this fight, and he talks about how much he partied and didn't train leading up to the fight. The book is a great read for anyone who grew up watching him.
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Undisputed Truth?
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Yep, that's it. The HBO show was interesting, but the book is just a fantastic read.

 
glock said:
Ditka Butkus said:
TheIronSheik said:
Ditka Butkus said:
At the time I couldn't stand Tyson and was very happy when he hit the canvas. Thru the years the idiot kind of grew on me. After the Hangover movie I actually thought he was funny and likable. Strange how 25 years changes things.
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Mike Tyson Mysteries is pretty funny.Someone made the comparison to George Foreman. I'm too young to know, but they said there was a time that Foreman was a mean, scary man. Now, he's a lovable guy. So much, most people don't even know the part about him being a mean, scary, bad man. Tyson seems like he's on the same type of career path.
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Yeah if I remember right Foreman was like Marshawn Lynch. Didn't want anything to do with the media. A bit ornery and smug.
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Foreman was a bit touchy over Ali getting all the press.
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Ali was the mean one. Especially to Frazier.

 
One of the amazing things about this fight is that it was on regular HBO, not pay-per-view. The "good" fights, like Tyson-Spinks you had to pay for - this was supposed to be such a walkover that it was a freebie they gave away on HBO. As a result, everybody got to see it for themselves, rather than hear about it afterward.

 
Bad beat. Should've never happened.

Black swan event. This is why these type of events should be best of 5

 
I remember being in college walking through a corridor from dorms to Commonwealth Avenue in Boston when some random dude shouted it out to me like the President had been shot. Seemed unfathomable.

 
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Foosball God said:
Man has boxing fallen off the map. I remember I was on a ski vacation during this fight. We all gathered around to watch, it was something not to be missed.

Now I have no idea who the heavyweight champ is or when the last championship bout was.
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Agreed...although hopefully Deontay Wilder can fight and beat reigning champ Klitschko soon, which would be the first unified American Champ in over a decade.
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Rooting for this guy:

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/371621-wilder-inspired-to-win-title-and-fulfill-promise-to-daughter

In the ring, Deontay Wilder is considered among the premier fighters in his division. Standing 6-foot-7, hes an athletic boxer whose double-fisted power has produced 32 knockouts in as many fights without a loss.

But there is one whose perseverance THE RINGs No. 6-rated heavyweight admires more than any opponent he will face, his 9-year-old daughter, Naieya, whom doctors said might never walk shortly after her birth on March 20, 2005.

Shes been through so much throughout her nine years of living and shes still going through a lot now. Shes good though. I mean shes happy that Daddy can support her to beyond belief, said Wilder, 29, who also has a son, Dereon, 3, and another daughter, Ava, 4.

Soon, it will be more than that. She knows whats going on. A lot of people say theyre my No. 1 fan but I know that, for sure, that shes my ultimate No. 1 fan. Its nothing like the love that you have for your children and I love them dearly.

Wilder said Naieyas motor skills and learning abilities belie the fact that she was born with the congenital disorder spina bifida. X-rays revealed a hole in Naieyas spine shortly after her birth as well as the condition which usually confines a person to a wheelchair for life.

Wilder said medical professionals expected a similar fate to be in store for Naieya.

A lot of kids that are born with the condition of spina bifida are paralyzed from the waist down. You have a hole in your spine and fluid runs up to your head and stuff like thatBut basically, a lot of kids who have the disorder are in wheelchairs, said Wilder.

The doctors said that she would never be able to walk and to ever have a natural childhood ability to learn. But there are several different cases of spina bifida and if God has something for you, then its for you. Cant nobody take that away from you. No doctor. I dont care how long hes gone to school to learn his craft or whatever. God has the last say-so on everything.

As his daughter has overcome, so Wilder believes he is ordained to dethrone Bermane Stiverne (24-1-1, 21 KOs) as WBC titleholder when they meet on Jan. 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Showtime.

In victory, Wilder would become Americas first heavyweight titleholder since 2007, when Shannon Briggs lost a unanimous decision to Sultan Ibragimov, giving up the WBO strap he had won from Sergei Liakhovich seven months earlier.

As teenager, Wilders grandmother, Evelyn Loggins, told him he was special and anointed. It was also about three years ago when a more specific prophecy was made by the late Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward, who said the best heavyweight prospect for winning the heavyweight title is Deontay Wilder.

But if the words of Steward and Loggins werent enough, Wilder made a promise long ago to Naieya that he would become a champion.

She inspires me and we inspire each other each and every day, man. She inspires me still now, said Wilder, because when she was a year old, I promised her that Daddy would become a world champion. Now I can make this happen. This can be realistic. I can make this promise a reality now and I will, you know.

A resident of Tuscaloosa, Ala., who starred as a high-school wide receiver and defensive end in football and at power forward in basketball, Wilder figured he was destined to be an athlete at the University of Alabama.

But as a 19-year-old, Wilder experienced the early responsibilities of fatherhood. Accepting his role, Wilder dropped out and took two jobs, one driving a truck and another at a restaurant.

Encouraged by a college friend, not to mention his success as a street fighter and the desire to escape that behavior, Wilder turned to boxing. Wilders success led to a bronze medal in the 2008 U.S. Olympics, making him the last American male to medal in Olympic boxing.

Meanwhile, Wilder could only watch as Naeiya experienced an early journey of pain over her first year of life brought on by the numerous examinations and surgeries, albeit successful.

She motivates me to keep going because shes only a nine-year-old girl and shes gone through the things that shes gone through. There was the surgeries and the doctors and the needles being stuck through her, said Wilder of Naeiya, who was enrolled in a program called RISE at the University of Alabama.

She would be screaming through her lungs and reaching for her father and that makes me want to hit the doctors. But I know that if she can go through that, then I can go through the trials and tribulations of becoming a world champion. You know all that we know is working hard.

But Naieyas determination led to her being fitted with knee braces and eventually to her walking. By the age of seven, Wilder said of Naieya, was not only walking but running, flipping and one of the smartest little girls in her class.

Theres no limitations to what she can do. You can never tell from my daughter that she has anything going on. Shes just like her father, man, just like me, said Wilder. There is no limitation to what she can do. If you tell me I cant do it, then Im going to do it. Ill definitely try to prove you wrong. But all of my kids are my motivation.

Wilders next challenge is Stiverne, 36, whose sixth-round technical knockout over Chris Arreola in May earned the WBC belt which had been vacated when Vitali Klitschko retired to pursue a political career in Ukraine.

Stiverne also became the first heavyweight titleholder of Haitian descent and is 12-0-1 with nine stoppages since being knocked out in the fourth round by Demetrice King in July 2007.

Wilder is coming off a fourth-round knockout of Jason Gavern, whom he dropped in the third and final rounds. Prior to Gavern, Wilder became Stivernes mandatory challenger with a 96-second knockout of Malik Scott in a WBC eliminator bout in March.

Im going to be a proud father when it comes time to come back and to show my baby girl, Naieya, what I brought her because I promised that to her and I cant let her down, man. I cant let her down. Its just like making God a promise, said Wilder of winning the heavyweight title.

So hes counting on you to do what you said you was going to do and shes counting on me to do as a father what I said that I was going to do and Ill never let my kids downI have to fulfill that promise. Nothing against nobody but this is something that I promised my daughter a long time ago and its gotta be fulfilled.
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IMO the super heavyweights did more harm to boxing then Don King. Boxing has always been shady but watching two behemoths expend all their energy in the first 30 seconds of the fight, leaving only two plodding giants grappling for dear life until one of them accidentally connects and ends the fights is boring.

The heavyweights were the draw and the normal guys are all gone. Plus, if you're a good athlete, there are a lot less humiliating and painless ways to make money in other sports. In other words, you really gotta be a moron to fight for a living.

 
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The_Man said:
One of the amazing things about this fight is that it was on regular HBO, not pay-per-view. The "good" fights, like Tyson-Spinks you had to pay for - this was supposed to be such a walkover that it was a freebie they gave away on HBO. As a result, everybody got to see it for themselves, rather than hear about it afterward.
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It was held in the cavernous Tokyo Dome and I recall the lack of crowd noise on the broadcast. If the bout had happened in Las Vegas or MSG, the crowd would have been going nuts but the lack of atmosphere in Tokyo added to the surreality of the event.

 
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