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3 top 10 players admit to marijuana use (1 Viewer)

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http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...extra041807.htm

The Way We Hear It — NFL draft edition

Three potential top-10 draft prospects admit to marijuana use

By Nolan Nawrocki

April 18, 2007

PFW has learned that three potential top-10 picks have admitted to using marijuana. The admissions were recorded during standard interviews at the NFL Scouting Combine administered by the league to every player in attendance and submitted to all 32 teams for review.

Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson, Clemson DE Gaines Adams and Louisville DT Amobi Okoye, according to multiple sources who have watched the interviews, all admitted to using marijuana.

Such admissions are viewed indifferently by many teams’ decision-makers who do not consider marijuana experimentation to be abnormal. In the case of Johnson — who is being considered by the Raiders with the first overall pick — his stock is not expected to be affected at all, given the strength of his character. That he admitted to using the drug, to some teams, is a sign of maturity.

Honesty is highly encouraged in the interviews, and those who are not honest and later proven to have lied are likely to be punished more severely, as LSU’s Claude Wroten was a year ago. Regarded as a top-10 pick entering draft meetings, he wound up sliding to the third round.

For Adams and Okoye, however, there could be more severe ramifications given some questions that exist about the consistency of their play.

“It should scare (teams), especially when you see how laid-back (Adams) is in his play,” one team official said. “No one disputes the great physical ability. What is disputed is how passionate he is and how physical he is. Physically, from an athletic standpoint, he has all the tools. He is the No. 1 pass rusher in the draft, and I don’t think many people would argue with that.”

As for Okoye, scouts have a love-hate relationship with him. Some teams who became aware of his admission in the past month have said they did not think it would affect his draft stock at all. Others have deeper concerns about his work ethic, maturity level and fluctuations in his weight.

Considering NFL commissioner Roger Goodell’s hard-line stance on players who run afoul of the law, teams could place a higher premium on character than ever before.

“The commissioner is going to be all over any team that drafts players with borderline character,” another team official said. “You are not going to see a draft like, for instance, Cincinnati’s (in 2006), where they took four criminals in one draft, because the owners are going to start getting fined.”
Please note: This is profootballweekly.com, not profootballtalk (who actually reported this rumor a couple of ago, but did not name names)
 
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I wonder how many of them have admitted to drinking before they were 21. It should register about the same on the character Richter scale as far as I'm concerned.

 
I wonder how many of them have admitted to drinking before they were 21. It should register about the same on the character Richter scale as far as I'm concerned.
Unless I am mistaken all three of these guys have been considered to be good character guys...and this is not a failed test. Of course, you know if one of these guys falls even a couple of spots some will point this.
 
I wonder how many of them have admitted to drinking before they were 21. It should register about the same on the character Richter scale as far as I'm concerned.
Unless I am mistaken all three of these guys have been considered to be good character guys...and this is not a failed test. Of course, you know if one of these guys falls even a couple of spots some will point this.
Which might be a little unfair. There are very legit questions about Okoye and Adams holding up against the run. Awesome pass rushers both. But as the article mentioned Adams can play a little "disinterested" at times and also gets smothered by big lineman. I am not the only one (see Mayock) concerned that Okoye literally gets blown off the LoS against a power running game. They could both slide a little below the current hype and it would have nothing to do with this revelation.
 
They were probably told to be honest for that question by their agents, rather than lie.

Some teams may think he is a good honest guy if he will admit to something like that.

 
This means Marinelli won't possibly draft any of these guys since he's on his locker room character washing crusade, right?

 
They all essentially admitted they had in the past, is that right?

Well, it's a tough year to be an honest kid, with the new sheriff in town, but I am sure most teams won't get get too frazzled by this news. As a coach, they've got to hope these kids are smart enough to practice a little discretion. These teams aren't idiots, they know that weed is part of a lot of these kids' lives, and they also know a lot of their players currently smoke, and don't get caught.

It's one of those things where they'd prefer if he said no, but if he did say no, can you really believe him?

 
I'd be more concerned if a guy coming out of college stated that he had never attempted to smoke pot.

Then you know he's lying.

 
I would like to see what happens if one of these guys fall to the Bengals in the 1st round. Would they take them?

 
This means Marinelli won't possibly draft any of these guys since he's on his locker room character washing crusade, right?
He'd have to battle it out with Millen then. This news probably moved each of these players up Millen's draft board. He did draft Charles Rogers after he failed a drug test at the combine. Think about it. Charles had many, many million reasons ($$$$) to put the hash pipe down for a few weeks and he couldn't. That should've spoke volumes for the importance of the little weed to Mr. Rogers. Of course, the Lions didn't baulk and took him in the top five. Brilliant. A ton of people smoke weed. Twenty ton have tried weed, so this isn't much news. However, when a guy can't put the pipe down long enough to pass a drug test they know is coming at the combine when a failed test could potentially lose them millions of dollars, there is a problem.
 
If it isn't a big deal with these guys why do people continuously slag on Ricky Williams as a loser? To my knowledge he never beat a spouse, physically hurt anyone, or hung out with the "wrong crowd" he just smoked some marijuana.

 
If it isn't a big deal with these guys why do people continuously slag on Ricky Williams as a loser? To my knowledge he never beat a spouse, physically hurt anyone, or hung out with the "wrong crowd" he just smoked some marijuana.
Well I think the difference lies in the fact that these player have admitted to using marijuana. This could have been when they were 15 and they may have just tried it one time. That is all these players are saying per this report. They had no idea at the age of say 15 that they were going to be entering the NFL and the millions of $$$$$'s that would be at stake. Ricky on the other hand chooses weed over millions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Big difference.
 
If it isn't a big deal with these guys why do people continuously slag on Ricky Williams as a loser? To my knowledge he never beat a spouse, physically hurt anyone, or hung out with the "wrong crowd" he just smoked some marijuana.
He's a loser because he was too dumb to take the proper precautions, so he wouldn't piss hot.And he didn't just 'smoke some marijuana'. The guy freaking took off, and was living in a tent in India or soemthing, when he shoulda been trying to get back in the league. I love Ricky, personally. And I love weed. But if I was a Fins fan, yeah he's a dirtbag loser that screwed his team over.
 
If they had failed a mandatory drug test or something else, then this would be a concern. Admittance of trying or experimenting doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

 
Buckna said:
If they had failed a mandatory drug test or something else, then this would be a concern. Admittance of trying or experimenting doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
Cmon you think those kids are simply experimenting i'd say 75% of players that will be drafted next week smoke marijane regularly. They surely take some kind of products to fool the drug tests.
 
Buckna said:
If they had failed a mandatory drug test or something else, then this would be a concern. Admittance of trying or experimenting doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
Cmon you think those kids are simply experimenting i'd say 75% of players that will be drafted next week smoke marijane regularly. They surely take some kind of products to fool the drug tests.
:yawn: Yes, I would highly disagree that 75% of them are regular users. We'd have a lot more NFL players failing drug tests every year if that were the case. I'm not going to discount their intelligence enough to think that so many of them would put their gravy train in jeopardy like that.

 
Buckna said:
If they had failed a mandatory drug test or something else, then this would be a concern. Admittance of trying or experimenting doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
Cmon you think those kids are simply experimenting i'd say 75% of players that will be drafted next week smoke marijane regularly. They surely take some kind of products to fool the drug tests.
:sleep: Yes, I would highly disagree that 75% of them are regular users. We'd have a lot more NFL players failing drug tests every year if that were the case. I'm not going to discount their intelligence enough to think that so many of them would put their gravy train in jeopardy like that.
I smoked pot every day in college until 2 months before graduation. I stopped because I knew I was going to have several job opportunities that would involve a drug test.And it was not really that hard to give up. I just drank a lot more!! :banned:

My point is just because we do something in college does not mean that we will continue that behavior after college.

 
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Buckna said:
If they had failed a mandatory drug test or something else, then this would be a concern. Admittance of trying or experimenting doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
Cmon you think those kids are simply experimenting i'd say 75% of players that will be drafted next week smoke marijane regularly. They surely take some kind of products to fool the drug tests.
:hifive: Yes, I would highly disagree that 75% of them are regular users. We'd have a lot more NFL players failing drug tests every year if that were the case. I'm not going to discount their intelligence enough to think that so many of them would put their gravy train in jeopardy like that.
I smoked pot every day in college until 2 months before graduation. I stopped because I knew I was going to have several job opportunities that would involve a drug test.And it was not really that hard to give up. I just drank a lot more!! :banned:

My point is just because we do something in college does not mean that we will continue that behavior after college.
I agree.If it had been failing the mandatory drug test or something similar that would be different to me, because they are aware of such testing and that would mean they are either stupid enough to continue to keep smoking, didn't care, or having a tough time giving up the ganga. I don't care about people having a good time in college (or after college for that matter), but I do care about the Ricky Williams and Charles Rogers types that are more concerned with other things than playing football.

 
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Buckna said:
If they had failed a mandatory drug test or something else, then this would be a concern. Admittance of trying or experimenting doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
Cmon you think those kids are simply experimenting i'd say 75% of players that will be drafted next week smoke marijane regularly. They surely take some kind of products to fool the drug tests.
:goodposting: Yes, I would highly disagree that 75% of them are regular users. We'd have a lot more NFL players failing drug tests every year if that were the case. I'm not going to discount their intelligence enough to think that so many of them would put their gravy train in jeopardy like that.
I smoked pot every day in college until 2 months before graduation. I stopped because I knew I was going to have several job opportunities that would involve a drug test.And it was not really that hard to give up. I just drank a lot more!! :lmao:

My point is just because we do something in college does not mean that we will continue that behavior after college.
I agree.If it had been failing the mandatory drug test or something similar that would be different to me, because they are aware of such testing and that would mean they are either stupid enough to continue to keep smoking, didn't care, or having a tough time giving up the ganga. I don't care about people having a good time in college (or after college for that matter), but I do care about the Ricky Williams and Charles Rogers types that are more concerned with other things than playing football.
I don't put Ricky in with Rogers. Ricky has a personality disorder. He found that smoking pot help him with that. It helped him more than any of the drugs that his Dr. Prescribed to the point that it was more important than his football career.It seems that Ricky has found a new way to cope without the weed. His last suspension was not for weed but a non-NFL approved supplement that was tainted.

Rodgers got paid and stopped caring about being a player two totally different cases.

 
A non issue to me.

The Jets passed on Warren Sapp and chose Kyle Brady instead, due to the rumors about his drug use.

Randy Moss also had "weed" rumors and a ton of teams passed on him as well.

I can understand why a team might feel somewhat leery, simply because of the amount of money that would be invested, but these guys also seem to have carried themselves well, without incident or issue during their tenure in college. They're also highly talented.

I wouldn't have a problem with my team(s) selecting any of these players.

 
I'd be more concerned if a guy coming out of college stated that he had never attempted to smoke pot.Then you know he's lying.
:boxing: I never did, never wanted to and never will. And I am not the only one.
I can't think of one person that I went to college with who didn't at least try weed. I am sure there were some..... I just can't think of any........but I was HIGH the whole time so....... We need a smiley smoking a Fatty!!
 

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