a question about compensation for a job (1 Viewer)

[MC Gas Money]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

 

[TheAristocrat]

Seriously, if you do this, drop your art in some/all mailboxes with the flyers and a way to reach you for additional artwork. The first 100 quality prints are on me.

Now, I'm also high but I kinda want you to wear a GoPro cam to ensure that my investment paid off. So there's that too.

Really

Ill do this in the future when I have a finished peice but someone has to get me the GoPro

I cant afford that thing.

We can figure something out.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Seriously, if you do this, drop your art in some/all mailboxes with the flyers and a way to reach you for additional artwork. The first 100 quality prints are on me.

Now, I'm also high but I kinda want you to wear a GoPro cam to ensure that my investment paid off. So there's that too.

Really

Ill do this in the future when I have a finished peice but someone has to get me the GoProI cant afford that thing.

We can figure something out.

You can have it back when im done. I have nobuse for it.

 

[Christo]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

You get what you pay for.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Check to make sure it isn't illegal.

$.15 - $.17 per flyer. Or better yet, work on commission. $10 if they call. $100 if it results in a deal. Or maybe $.10 per flyer plus commission.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Check to make sure it isn't illegal.

$.15 - $.17 per flyer. Or better yet, work on commission. $10 if they call. $100 if it results in a deal. Or maybe $.10 per flyer plus commission.

These guys are cheapskates so I cant trust them to be honest with the commision.Otherwise id be willing to do that.

How can it be illegal to put flyers on peoples doors? It happens everywhere

I think its not legal to put anything in the mailbox if you arent a postal worker.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

 

[MC Gas Money]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

Geez binky. I think you need to hire someone to write your material because you are stinking it up like a dead raccoon on the subway in here

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Perp walk?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

Geez binky. I think you need to hire someone to write your material because you are stinking it up like a dead raccoon on the subway in here

As you said, the pills aren't working.

 

[MC Gas Money]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

Geez binky. I think you need to hire someone to write your material because you are stinking it up like a dead raccoon on the subway in here

As you said, the pills aren't working.

Apparently not for anyone

 

[Frostillicus]

You're not going to do 20 miles in 5 hours chief. I don't care how fast you walk, you are still stopping to place flyers.

15-20. Most peoples railings have a space to slip a rolled up flyer in to so I dont think I will have to climb up many steps or walk up to many doors but I could be wrong.I walk faster than most. Nobody has ever past me in the street when I walk at my normal pace so I probably walk 5 mph on average

I meant "walked past"#### happens when you are typing fast

I wasn't laughing at the typo.

Its true though, npbody has ever passed me.

An old friend used to call me doctor detroit because I walk fast with my hands in my pockets.

People are often surprised how quickly I get around

You actually remind me of our own Doctor Detroit quite a bit.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

Geez binky. I think you need to hire someone to write your material because you are stinking it up like a dead raccoon on the subway in here

As you said, the pills aren't working.

Apparently not for anyone

ok - you got me. You are ####### exhausting.

Serious question - you aren't really this ####ed up are you? I mean, this is like one of many aliai and you really are just ####ed in another troll-like manner ...right?

Come clean. It might start your healing.

 

[MC Gas Money]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

Geez binky. I think you need to hire someone to write your material because you are stinking it up like a dead raccoon on the subway in here

As you said, the pills aren't working.

Apparently not for anyone

ok - you got me. You are ####### exhausting.

Serious question - you aren't really this ####ed up are you? I mean, this is like one of many aliai and you really are just ####ed in another troll-like manner ...right?

Come clean. It might start your healing.

Define ####ed up?I am far from the most.

And no, I have never pretended to be anyone other than myself on here. Im always honest and if im a troll just because the truth of my life riles people up then consider me a troll.......but not because I had to lie to do it.

Say whatever you want about me but im not afraid to be myself unlike many. Im not afraid of any of the crap I get.

Dspsblyuth@gmail.com

Go ahead, spam me, I dont care

 

[MC Gas Money]

If you troll people you think are trolls then what does that make you?

A E-Vigilante or just a parasitic troll?

 

[Binky The Doormat]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Are they different colors, taste delicious, and have an "m" on them?

Geez binky. I think you need to hire someone to write your material because you are stinking it up like a dead raccoon on the subway in here

As you said, the pills aren't working.

Apparently not for anyone

ok - you got me. You are ####### exhausting.

Serious question - you aren't really this ####ed up are you? I mean, this is like one of many aliai and you really are just ####ed in another troll-like manner ...right?

Come clean. It might start your healing.

Define ####ed up?I am far from the most.

And no, I have never pretended to be anyone other than myself on here. Im always honest and if im a troll just because the truth of my life riles people up then consider me a troll.......but not because I had to lie to do it.

Say whatever you want about me but im not afraid to be myself unlike many. Im not afraid of any of the crap I get.

Dspsblyuth@gmail.com

Go ahead, spam me, I dont care

Hey I am just trying to help DSP. Why won't you let us help you?

ETA: And no, I don't troll or spam people.

 

[MC Gas Money]

How exactly have you helped Binky? This thread is the first time you had a conversation with me instead of just slinging insults.

People who dont have mental illness, or arent aware of it, generally seem to think people who do are much worse than they really are.

So if I really was as ill as some here seem to think then what can be gained by attacking someone so sick? Did you guys pick on the kids in the special class when you were in grade school?

There is a big difference between mental illness and being truly crazy or insane. People suffer from all sorts of issues but are still aware of their actions and surroundings. They are not all that different from you except their bad feelings last much longer and they dont have the coping skills either because of genetics, upbringing or injury.

How ####ed up am I? Suffering from anxiety and depression but I am cognizant and rational. Never a danger to anyone other than myself.

Is that all rare enough to be considered ####ed up or perhaps just a prevalent representation of the human condition? Are we not all ####ed up in some way?

If any of us on here were truly 100% ok I would think we would be too busy making billions of dollars and leading posh lifestyles to have any time to post on a message board. We are all just regular folk who have limitations which is why we did not rise to the elite of society.

But if any of us truly perfect but didnt rise to the top due to circumstance......then isnt that the pot calling the kettle black?

But what do I know. Im just a liar after all.

 

[northern exposure]

Are they paying you under the table or are you paying taxes? If no taxes, take the $9/hour from both of them. Schedule it so you deliver both at the same time. $18/hour seems like a hell of a lot for simply walking.

Its all straight up cash money homey.

Of course ill do them both but its not like im getting paid twice to do one job. Im doing a job for each simultaneously. Its not just walking. I have to carry two loads of flyers, reach in the bag twice and sometimes walk up stairs if there is no place to put the flyers on the gate

Its two jobs. Does a hooker only charge you single prices if its you and your friend?

Interesting choice of analogy.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Are they paying you under the table or are you paying taxes? If no taxes, take the $9/hour from both of them. Schedule it so you deliver both at the same time. $18/hour seems like a hell of a lot for simply walking.

Its all straight up cash money homey.Of course ill do them both but its not like im getting paid twice to do one job. Im doing a job for each simultaneously. Its not just walking. I have to carry two loads of flyers, reach in the bag twice and sometimes walk up stairs if there is no place to put the flyers on the gate

Its two jobs. Does a hooker only charge you single prices if its you and your friend?

Interesting choice of analogy.

Ill basically be whoring myself out

 

[DaVinci]

I think this weekend you should make a trial run. Grab a couple reams of paper down at the Office Depot and walk around littering people's gates and doorways. See how much ground you cover and how many flyers you deliver in 5 hours. Report back here.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

So, you're going to be the guy who litters the foyer of my apartment building (the foyer because no one will buzz you in) with menus and flyers that no one wants.

And you are going to disrespectfully cross everyone's lawn instead of walking on the sidewalks and pathways, and you're going to be too lazy to attach the flyers to the doorknob with a rubber band, and instead will wedge them in between the door so that when the door opens the flyer will drop to the floor, and the person will have to bend over and retrieve something they didn't want in the first place.

Welcome to the neighborhood!

 

[jon_mx]

Are they paying you under the table or are you paying taxes? If no taxes, take the $9/hour from both of them. Schedule it so you deliver both at the same time. $18/hour seems like a hell of a lot for simply walking.

Its all straight up cash money homey.

Of course ill do them both but its not like im getting paid twice to do one job. Im doing a job for each simultaneously. Its not just walking. I have to carry two loads of flyers, reach in the bag twice and sometimes walk up stairs if there is no place to put the flyers on the gate

Its two jobs. Does a hooker only charge you single prices if its you and your friend?

Easily a $15 per hour job. Oh wait, you have to reach into the bag twice? That makes all the difference. Maybe $25 is fair.

 

[meatwad1]

Jesus, you can even find an excuse not to walk.

Im not looking for an excuse not to walk, im trying to figure out a fair price.15-20 miles in a row is a lot so dont pretend it isnt

YOU'RE WALKING AND PUTTING FLYERS ON DOORS. Minimum wage.

If they just hired some teenager off the street they wont do the right thing and will slack off. Its worth more than minimum wage to have me do it with assurance that every inch of the specified area will be covered.

A couple hundred bucks each isnt a lot for exposure to a few thousand potential customers.

Why would they trust you? Even if you say you will do what you are going to do, logic will dictate that they ponder why a 30 year old man is making himself available for a job such as this. The only real reason is because somewhere along the way you made some bad decisions. So now that they have established that you are a person who has a history of poor decision making, why would they think you are going to do things the right way?

Demand $60 or don't take it.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Jesus, you can even find an excuse not to walk.

Im not looking for an excuse not to walk, im trying to figure out a fair price.15-20 miles in a row is a lot so dont pretend it isnt

YOU'RE WALKING AND PUTTING FLYERS ON DOORS. Minimum wage.

If they just hired some teenager off the street they wont do the right thing and will slack off. Its worth more than minimum wage to have me do it with assurance that every inch of the specified area will be covered.A couple hundred bucks each isnt a lot for exposure to a few thousand potential customers.

Why would they trust you? Even if you say you will do what you are going to do, logic will dictate that they ponder why a 30 year old man is making himself available for a job such as this. The only real reason is because somewhere along the way you made some bad decisions. So now that they have established that you are a person who has a history of poor decision making, why would they think you are going to do things the right way?

Demand $60 or don't take it.

I have no history of poor decision making, and ive known both these guys a long time and I have done side work for them before and I always bust my hump. My unemployment has nothing to do with me being a bad worker, it has to do with my mental issues.

Every person In Psychitric treatment for 2/3 of their life is due to poor decisions?

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

You just walk? Do you get free water because you'll probably go through $50 worth.

No not just walk. Also carrying a shoulder bag full of flyers and putting one on a door the entire time, so also climbing a flight of stairs every few houses.No free water

$82 and a handy from the owner's wife

That would be a handy from my aunt

$92 then

$10 for the local crack prostitute.

 

[MC Gas Money]

So, you're going to be the guy who litters the foyer of my apartment building (the foyer because no one will buzz you in) with menus and flyers that no one wants.

And you are going to disrespectfully cross everyone's lawn instead of walking on the sidewalks and pathways, and you're going to be too lazy to attach the flyers to the doorknob with a rubber band, and instead will wedge them in between the door so that when the door opens the flyer will drop to the floor, and the person will have to bend over and retrieve something they didn't want in the first place.

Welcome to the neighborhood!

I wont walk on peoples lawns.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Have you negotiated benefits? Does this flier job offer a 401k match? How is the insurance?

In all seriousness, someone going door to door passing out fliers, should try to negotiate $12-$15 an hour during the summer heat and settle for $10-$12.

ETA: I assume it is off the books, so at these wages $10 an hour would equate to like $12 or $12.50 if it was a real job.

 

[inca911]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Your personal health is always your responsibility. If you have a doc who can't find something that works, then change doctors. Blindly trusting a doctor can result in pain, suffering, injury, or even death. I know two people who would be dead if didn't take charge of their health. They trend their medication and symptoms, and stay up to date on the latest research. They both went through many physicians until they found an intelligent partner with deep understanding of their conditions. Have you researched other potential medications/therapies, sought out physician specialists, subscribed to any journals?

 

[MC Gas Money]

Have you negotiated benefits? Does this flier job offer a 401k match? How is the insurance?

In all seriousness, someone going door to door passing out fliers, should try to negotiate $12-$15 an hour during the summer heat and settle for $10-$12.

ETA: I assume it is off the books, so at these wages $10 an hour would equate to like $12 or $12.50 if it was a real job.

Thats precisely the amount I think is fair to charge each

 

[MC Gas Money]

My meds are free. I take them every day, it isnt my fault that they dont work. Thats on my doctor.

Your personal health is always your responsibility. If you have a doc who can't find something that works, then change doctors. Blindly trusting a doctor can result in pain, suffering, injury, or even death. I know two people who would be dead if didn't take charge of their health. They trend their medication and symptoms, and stay up to date on the latest research. They both went through many physicians until they found an intelligent partner with deep understanding of their conditions. Have you researched other potential medications/therapies, sought out physician specialists, subscribed to any journals?

There is only one otjer psychiatrist in my insurance network and they are on the other side of the city otherwise I would have switched long ago. Im expecting when I have a job with better insurance I will have more options.

I do research from time to time, especially about different medications we talk about. No journals but I read a lot of articles and message boards relating to mental illness

 

[MC Gas Money]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

 

[northern exposure]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

Binky, he's giving you the bedroom eyes. Looks like you have a new "friend".

 

[MC Gas Money]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

Binky, he's giving you the bedroom eyes. Looks like you have a new "friend".

Im way out of his league

 

[Keerock]

You just walk? Do you get free water because you'll probably go through $50 worth.

No not just walk. Also carrying a shoulder bag full of flyers and putting one on a door the entire time, so also climbing a flight of stairs every few houses.No free water

$82 and a handy from the owner's wife

That would be a handy from my aunt

She sounds HOT!

 

[fantasycurse42]

You just walk? Do you get free water because you'll probably go through $50 worth.

No not just walk. Also carrying a shoulder bag full of flyers and putting one on a door the entire time, so also climbing a flight of stairs every few houses.No free water

$82 and a handy from the owner's wife

That would be a handy from my aunt

She sounds HOT!

 

[northern exposure]

You just walk? Do you get free water because you'll probably go through $50 worth.

No not just walk. Also carrying a shoulder bag full of flyers and putting one on a door the entire time, so also climbing a flight of stairs every few houses.No free water

$82 and a handy from the owner's wife

That would be a handy from my aunt

She sounds HOT!

You got a pic of MC, what else do you want? You ungrateful sonova...

 

[Binky The Doormat]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

Binky, he's giving you the bedroom eyes. Looks like you have a new "friend".

Im way out of his league

MC - I mean this in a very sincere way. That is just about as creepy a picture as I have ever seen.

Please escalate discussions with your doctor and get additional help. I am sorry for any derogatory comments I may have made - best to you. Godspeed.

 

[MC Gas Money]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

Binky, he's giving you the bedroom eyes. Looks like you have a new "friend".

Im way out of his league

MC - I mean this in a very sincere way. That is just about as creepy a picture as I have ever seen.

Please escalate discussions with your doctor and get additional help. I am sorry for any derogatory comments I may have made - best to you. Godspeed.

Of course its creepy, im a very angry person. People have been telling me im creepy for 15 years.

Thats a pretty big stretch to think someone needs additional counseling from a hasty photograph.

If I had set up some lighting, props and posed I would completely agree with you.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

Dude, no offense, but your half aunt is pretty ugly.

 

[MC Gas Money]

BINKY!!!!!!!

I DONT HAVE JOWLS!!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/Il01A2c

Dude, no offense, but your half aunt is pretty ugly.

I dont get it

 

[fantasycurse42]

Update?

 

[Jack White]

The average human walks 3-4 mph. If someone was doing a job that required them to walk for 5 hours per day, 15-20 miles per day, in summer weather what do you think would be a fair daily wage?

$50 at least per day or more?

Simple: what the market will bear.