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ACTIVE SHOOTER WW > D4 > PAV LIVES! (1 Viewer)

My understanding (of only playing in 4 games) is that Indy's are just that, independent. I don't think there's any communication going on.

 
Official D3 Vote Tally

13 players remain; 7 Votes needed for a lynch.

PsychoPav (4): CYP, SinnFein***, slapdash, Keerock,

Spoofy (2): BostonFred, Nathan Jessup

Slapdash (2): wdcrob, Strykerpks

bostonfred (1): nysfl2

Sinn Fein (1): Pitbull TD

Yet to vote (3): Psychopav, Spoofy, Veebs,

*** Proxies to CYP

 
I'm confused as to why we are not atleast making Sinn claim....
because we have a confirmed indy killer in 1 of 2 people. if we lynch slap and find out pav was telling the truth, sinn goes next. if we lynch pav and find out pav was telling the truth, sinn goes next. if we lynch slap and pav was lying, we don't really know about sinn. if we lynch pav and pav was lying, we don't really know about sinn.

 
here's a thought, not sure it works thematically but, whatever. perhaps the indy learns about the person he kills. n1 he kills VI and in that he learns VI's powers. i have created indy roles where they get "something" from their victims. not exactly this idea, but that doesn't mean icon didn't, especially with 2 of the people he had review the ruleset.

in that case, slap could have learned info from his kill.

does the VI kill line up with whoever Porter is?

 
It's interesting that Slap had our power down cold. We can indeed block one player a night.

And in fact we blocked Sinn - both nights. I assume he is the shotgun shooter. I was going to block someone else tonight to confirm it.
You're thinking of the wrong game.

 
pav & slap, can you both explain in detail anything about your powers and masons. thanks.
Slap already did. If he's really an indy it must be part of his power to know the role(s?).

Block one per night as long as either of me and VI is alive, and if we pick a GG they aren't blocked.
so single block shared between the 2 of you, but you don't both need to be alive to use it. correct?

 
pav & slap, can you both explain in detail anything about your powers and masons. thanks.
Slap already did. If he's really an indy it must be part of his power to know the role(s?).

Block one per night as long as either of me and VI is alive, and if we pick a GG they aren't blocked.
so single block shared between the 2 of you, but you don't both need to be alive to use it. correct?
Correct.

 
Where's slap go? :confused:
Busy at work with quarter-end coming on Monday...

I still don't know what Onslaught is.
Onslaught doesn't mean anything in this context. It could have been morse code. Doesn't matter. It was simply a way for him to hide a crumbed message that VI was his mason on day 1. How do you explain that?
Pav is a good player :shrug:
so you think he decided in advance to fake that he is brady and masoned with VI and then crumbed it in thread on day 1?

 
also, he claims to have blocked sinn twice and that's why 2 failed kills. thoughts on that?
To be clear: I do not claim to know for certain that Sinn is the shotgun shooter. But the evidence is pretty strong considering shotgun has been blocked twice and we/I blocked Sinn twice.

 
Where's slap go? :confused:
Busy at work with quarter-end coming on Monday...

I still don't know what Onslaught is.
Onslaught doesn't mean anything in this context. It could have been morse code. Doesn't matter. It was simply a way for him to hide a crumbed message that VI was his mason on day 1. How do you explain that?
Pav is a good player :shrug:
so you think he decided in advance to fake that he is brady and masoned with VI and then crumbed it in thread on day 1?
Yeah, he pretty much outplayed me there didn't he?

 
If pav crumbed all this shiz on D1 its brilliant. Worst case is we lynch an outed ggrp by mistake and presumeably the BGs take out the indy. Best case is we lynch an indy and the BGs have some other non-Hulk related barrier to success killing the GGRP (I.e. a block). I vote for slap simply out of admiration for pav's play either way...

Pvote slap.

 
Yeah....I think it is pretty clear Pav's crumb sunk my claim. It was worth a shot tho.

I'm an indy. My power is more like a seer...I can "lobby" someone during the day and borrow their powers at night. Lobbied Pav D1 and blocked VI with it of all people. D2 I lobbied Whouda hoping to get a kill. Couldn't reverse after lynch (my undoing). That is my only power, no kill or anything else.

I'm open to viewing who the village (ie outed GGRPs) wishes if you want to keep me alive. You will find out my results during the night phase even if I am killed. If I find a BG, I will shoot them.

Don't expect this to work, but claiming now in the interest of moving the game a long.

Great move Pav, that is why I went for you D1. :)

l.

 
Negotiating indy shtick rules.
Never been an indy or seen this shtick in a game I've played. Almost led with it, but had a decent claim sans Pav's breadcrumb :lol:

Clearly not making it to endgame either way. Just saying, I'll stick around and help out.

I'm pretty busy next week anyway, so not a big deal.

 
Unvote

I believe him.

Besides, NO ONE EVER goes for the village working with the indy shtick.

I'd like to try it just once. It's early in the game, WTF. I say we go for it.

Vote Sinn

 
Yeah....I think it is pretty clear Pav's crumb sunk my claim. It was worth a shot tho.

I'm an indy. My power is more like a seer...I can "lobby" someone during the day and borrow their powers at night. Lobbied Pav D1 and blocked VI with it of all people. D2 I lobbied Whouda hoping to get a kill. Couldn't reverse after lynch (my undoing). That is my only power, no kill or anything else.

I'm open to viewing who the village (ie outed GGRPs) wishes if you want to keep me alive. You will find out my results during the night phase even if I am killed. If I find a BG, I will shoot them.

Don't expect this to work, but claiming now in the interest of moving the game a long.

Great move Pav, that is why I went for you D1. :)

l.
Which is it?


 
Im struggling to buy the idea of a vig or a daykilling bg being responsible for a shotgun blast through culdeus'es chest. An indy kill seems more likely.

and pav, dont u think mod would have told you if your block had been diverted?

I dont think our newly provillage friend is being truthful here...

 
Yeah....I think it is pretty clear Pav's crumb sunk my claim. It was worth a shot tho.

I'm an indy. My power is more like a seer...I can "lobby" someone during the day and borrow their powers at night. Lobbied Pav D1 and blocked VI with it of all people. D2 I lobbied Whouda hoping to get a kill. Couldn't reverse after lynch (my undoing). That is my only power, no kill or anything else.

I'm open to viewing who the village (ie outed GGRPs) wishes if you want to keep me alive. You will find out my results during the night phase even if I am killed. If I find a BG, I will shoot them.

Don't expect this to work, but claiming now in the interest of moving the game a long.

Great move Pav, that is why I went for you D1. :)

l.
Which is it?
Sorry that isn't clear.

If I lobby someone during the day, I can use their power during the night. I assume that means I could shoot a BG that I find....maybe not tho.

 
Im struggling to buy the idea of a vig or a daykilling bg being responsible for a shotgun blast through culdeus'es chest. An indy kill seems more likely.

and pav, dont u think mod would have told you if your block had been diverted?

I dont think our newly provillage friend is being truthful here...
Wasn't culdeus killed during D1? Nothing could prevent that.

That is the part I'm trying to figure out. The case of Sinn Fein and whams isn't clear. PM does say "borrow" not "steal".

 
I'm inclined to trust Slap more than Sinn, though I think we should take Slap out when we don't have a confirmed BG sitting in our sites (sorry).

GG: Spoofy, Pav, wdcrob, Pitbull, CYP

Bad/Indy: Slap, Sinn

??: Keerock, Stryker, Fred, NYSFL, Veebs, Nathan J

Seem about right? So maybe 3-4 of that bottom list still need to be dealt with?

 
Pav says his mason pair blocked sinn n1 and n2. You say you borrowed vi's power to block vi. Did you also say you blocked greco? I forget...the point is if you borrowed the block how did sinn get blocked / why didnt mod inform pav about the borrowed role power? I doubt a copy mechanic would be in play, so something smells funny...

 
Pav says his mason pair blocked sinn n1 and n2. You say you borrowed vi's power to block vi. Did you also say you blocked greco? I forget...the point is if you borrowed the block how did sinn get blocked / why didnt mod inform pav about the borrowed role power? I doubt a copy mechanic would be in play, so something smells funny...
See, I thought he said the bolded as well, but just a while ago he said he borrowed my power.Too bad. Maybe someday I'll get to see an indy working with the village.

Pvote slapdash

 
I went back and looked...he claims he borrowed your power then grecos. No indication of the borrowing has me not buying it.

No day kill yet. If there is a live vig slap should die. If greco was the vig hang slap.

 

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