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[PitbullTD]

Whoever has been blocking bostonfred the past 3 nights moves to block someone else and it ends up being the small pistol bg..??

What other mechanic could be at play making fred miss every single shot?

Pav who did you block last night?

 

[Psychopav]

Whoever has been blocking bostonfred the past 3 nights moves to block someone else and it ends up being the small pistol bg..??

What other mechanic could be at play making fred miss every single shot?

Pav who did you block last night?

I'd rather not say.

 

[Psychopav]

Suffice to say I have no new information. I'm in the dark about where to go next.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Is it plausible that a GG got a good view of Fred (or info) early in the game and just kept blocking him without outing themselves?

Spoofy = Indy?

 

[PitbullTD]

Is it plausible that a GG got a good view of Fred (or info) early in the game and just kept blocking him without outing themselves?

Spoofy = Indy?

It's possible, but I would think there would have been a runup on him by now no?

I'm going with Spoofy had the CC permit last night. Someone who had it (CYP?) said it had a 50% chance to return fire, looks like thats what happened, maybe stryker can give us some info on it, I believe he had it N2??

 

[Psychopav]

Is it plausible that a GG got a good view of Fred (or info) early in the game and just kept blocking him without outing themselves?

Spoofy = Indy?

It's possible, but I would think there would have been a runup on him by now no?

I'm going with Spoofy had the CC permit last night. Someone who had it (CYP?) said it had a 50% chance to return fire, looks like thats what happened, maybe stryker can give us some info on it, I believe he had it N2??

Maybe Spoofy can give us some info as well.

 

[PitbullTD]

Is it plausible that a GG got a good view of Fred (or info) early in the game and just kept blocking him without outing themselves?

Spoofy = Indy?

It's possible, but I would think there would have been a runup on him by now no?

I'm going with Spoofy had the CC permit last night. Someone who had it (CYP?) said it had a 50% chance to return fire, looks like thats what happened, maybe stryker can give us some info on it, I believe he had it N2??

Maybe Spoofy can give us some info as well.

Yeah, guess we really don't need to speculate when we can get the info from the source.

 

[strykerpks]

Yeah, I mentioned the 50% chance at return fire. CYP had the concealed carry permit N2. I had it N3. I tried to pass it back to him, hoping he could protect himself and get us more views. But he got killed so I imagine it was randomized.

At the doctor now getting mri results. I can post more later.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Ok... didn't understand how that worked and missed the 50% thing.

 

[PitbullTD]

time to find out who spoofy was onto during d3

 

[PitbullTD]

Fred wasn't blocked N3, he shot at CYP who had the CC, but was already dead...or something along those lines, but he wasnt blocked.

 

[Sinn Fein]

GR please!!!

 

[PitbullTD]

As the crowd scattered, one individual seemed particularly slow to act. Bodies ran for cover but by the time he made his move it was too late. Yet again small handgun fire rang out and Greco jolted forward with reddening patterns forming in his shirt, then he collapsed to the ground, Dead.

DEAD IS GRECO, Joe Biden - GGRP

Yet another shotgun blast could be heard echoing from around town but the source was impossible to pick up, and he thankfully missed his target. Good for the village as the night has already been a costly one.

freds N2 move...

 

[PitbullTD]

vote Jessup

 

[PitbullTD]

unvote

actually, proxy Pav

Jessup, Keerock, and Nysfl2 are on my list of what are they?

GG: Pav, Spoof

unsure: stryker, vbd, wdcrob...

need to do some more reading.

 

[nysfl2]

vote fred

don't think spoofy is bad.

at least one of sinn/jessup likely bad

slap and stryker worry me, too

So far, so good

Time to go take a good look at jessup and stryker

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

unvote

actually, proxy Pav

Jessup, Keerock, and Nysfl2 are on my list of what are they?

GG: Pav, Spoof

unsure: stryker, vbd, wdcrob...

need to do some more reading.

Nathan.wdcrob,keerock, maybe you lol.

I think stryker and nysfl are GGs.

Pvote keerock

Pproxy pav.

 

[Psychopav]

Do we have any outstanding claims aside from mine?

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

vote stryker

 

[Psychopav]

I took some liberties...

Official Day 1 "Ugliest Vote Tally Ever" Vote Tally

21 players remain; Plurality needed for a lynch.

Bucky86 (8): Slapdash, Hulk, Psychopav, Greco, Cyp^^, Whoda^^^, wdcrob, nysfl***

Hulk (3): bostonfred*****, Gizmo, Bucky86,

wdcrob (2): Keerock, Veebs

Pitbull TD (1): VI

Spoofy (1): JTG

Nathan Jessup (1): Sinn Fein*

Sinn Fein (1): Nathan Jessup

Yet to vote (4): strykerpks, Pitbull TD, Rascal**, Spoofy

* Proxies to Veebs

** Proxies to VI

*** Proxies to Spoofy

***** Proxies to Bucky86

^^ Proxies to Greco

^^^ Proxies to Cyp

________________________________________________________________________________________________

Official "Didn't get murdered at ghetto Cell phone repair store" Vote Tally

17 players remain; Plurality needed for a lynch.

JTG (9): Cyp, Greco, Keerock****, Spoofy, bostonfred^^, Slapdash, Whoda, Hulk, Veebs*

Yet to vote (8): Pitbull TD, JTG, Nathan Jessup, Sinn Fein, nysfl**, wdcrob***, Psychopav, strykerpks,

* Proxies to Hulk

** Proxies to Sinn Fein

*** Proxies to Sinn Fein

**** Proxies to Cyp

^^ Proxies to Hulk

________________________________________________________________________________________________

Official D3 Vote Tally

13 players remain; 7 Votes needed for a lynch.

Slapdash (7): wdcrob, Strykerpks, Veebs, Psychopav, Spoofy, nysfl2*, Keerock

Psychopav (2): Cyp, Sinn Fein**

Spoofy (2): bostonfred, Nathan Jessup

Sinn (1): PitbullTD

Yet to vote (1): Slapdash

* Proxies to Psychopav

** Proxies to Cyp

 

[Psychopav]

Spoofy, what are you thinking?

 

[PitbullTD]

unvote

actually, proxy Pav

Jessup, Keerock, and Nysfl2 are on my list of what are they?

GG: Pav, Spoof

unsure: stryker, vbd, wdcrob...

need to do some more reading.

Nathan.wdcrob,keerock, maybe you lol.

I think stryker and nysfl are GGs.

Pvote keerock

Pproxy pav.

I don't think its possible that both stryker AND nysfl are GG's . We know Pav is a good guy, there are 5(?) dead GG's. And we think six BG's. I don't think there are 8 GG's in this game, that would mean 8 BG's and only 6 villagers? + probobly 2 Indy's so 4 villagers?

My math may not be right, but I'm pretty sure there are probobly 2 TOPS gg's left, and we know Pav is one.

 

[PitbullTD]

Veebs, what makes you think Nysfl is a GG? I can at this point, buy into possibly stryker, but I have seen nothing that warrants thinking Nysfl is a GG.

 

[Psychopav]

9 Players Remain. 4 or 5 to lynch? (which is correct?)

5 is correct.

 

[PitbullTD]

Official D3 Vote Tally
13 players remain; 7 Votes needed for a lynch.

Slapdash (7): wdcrob, Strykerpks, Veebs, Psychopav, Spoofy, nysfl2*, Keerock

there are a couple BG's in this group. Slap said he was indy, but also said he would be willing to view for the village....I found no reason not to run with it for a night at least, when at the time it was the general consensus that we had sinn dead to rights with the shotgun.

 

[nysfl2]

unvote

actually, proxy Pav

Jessup, Keerock, and Nysfl2 are on my list of what are they?

GG: Pav, Spoof

unsure: stryker, vbd, wdcrob...

need to do some more reading.

Nathan.wdcrob,keerock, maybe you lol.

I think stryker and nysfl are GGs.

Pvote keerock

Pproxy pav.

I don't think its possible that both stryker AND nysfl are GG's . We know Pav is a good guy, there are 5(?) dead GG's. And we think six BG's. I don't think there are 8 GG's in this game, that would mean 8 BG's and only 6 villagers? + probobly 2 Indy's so 4 villagers?

My math may not be right, but I'm pretty sure there are probobly 2 TOPS gg's left, and we know Pav is one.

I assume you're confusing GGs and GGRPs here, otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever.

With 22 at the start, it's probably 6 or 7 GGRP and 6 or 7 BGRP. Possibly less BGRP if there's another Indy or two in charge of the other guns. Though having the lover BGs could move us towards the high side of BG numbers, too.

 

[PitbullTD]

unvote

actually, proxy Pav

Jessup, Keerock, and Nysfl2 are on my list of what are they?

GG: Pav, Spoof

unsure: stryker, vbd, wdcrob...

need to do some more reading.

Nathan.wdcrob,keerock, maybe you lol.

I think stryker and nysfl are GGs.

Pvote keerock

Pproxy pav.

I don't think its possible that both stryker AND nysfl are GG's . We know Pav is a good guy, there are 5(?) dead GG's. And we think six BG's. I don't think there are 8 GG's in this game, that would mean 8 BG's and only 6 villagers? + probobly 2 Indy's so 4 villagers?

My math may not be right, but I'm pretty sure there are probobly 2 TOPS gg's left, and we know Pav is one.

I assume you're confusing GGs and GGRPs here, otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever.

With 22 at the start, it's probably 6 or 7 GGRP and 6 or 7 BGRP. Possibly less BGRP if there's another Indy or two in charge of the other guns. Though having the lover BGs could move us towards the high side of BG numbers, too.

Thought GG and GGRP were the same thing = Good Guys.

I'm going off of Sinns statement earlier that its usually something like 25% 25% 50% and an indy or so. GGRP/BGRP/Villagers.

I'm more and more considering the fact that Pav may be the last GGRP we have. How often do BGRP outnumber GGRP in your experience.

I've only played this game three times, this being my third.

 

[nysfl2]

Pulling together the nighly killing stuff (a little birdy told me that it may be important):

N1

Bushmaster - Rascal

Small caliber and mid caliber handgun - VI

Shotgun - missed

Rifle - missed

N2

Bushmaster - killed Hulk

Pistol (small handgun) - killed Greco

Shotgun - missed

No rifle

N3

Bushmaster AR-15 - killed CYP

Pistol - missed

Shotgun - missed

No rifle

N4

Shotgun - spoofy - reversed

Small pistol - missed

Bushmaster AR-15 - target (Pav) protected

No rifle

Do we know what happened to the rifle? Was that JTGs/Guppys weapon?

 

[nysfl2]

unvote

actually, proxy Pav

Jessup, Keerock, and Nysfl2 are on my list of what are they?

GG: Pav, Spoof

unsure: stryker, vbd, wdcrob...

need to do some more reading.

Nathan.wdcrob,keerock, maybe you lol.

I think stryker and nysfl are GGs.

Pvote keerock

Pproxy pav.

I don't think its possible that both stryker AND nysfl are GG's . We know Pav is a good guy, there are 5(?) dead GG's. And we think six BG's. I don't think there are 8 GG's in this game, that would mean 8 BG's and only 6 villagers? + probobly 2 Indy's so 4 villagers?

My math may not be right, but I'm pretty sure there are probobly 2 TOPS gg's left, and we know Pav is one.

I assume you're confusing GGs and GGRPs here, otherwise it makes no sense whatsoever.

With 22 at the start, it's probably 6 or 7 GGRP and 6 or 7 BGRP. Possibly less BGRP if there's another Indy or two in charge of the other guns. Though having the lover BGs could move us towards the high side of BG numbers, too.

Thought GG and GGRP were the same thing = Good Guys.

I'm going off of Sinns statement earlier that its usually something like 25% 25% 50% and an indy or so. GGRP/BGRP/Villagers.

I'm more and more considering the fact that Pav may be the last GGRP we have. How often do BGRP outnumber GGRP in your experience.

I've only played this game three times, this being my third.

GGs = GGRPs + villagers.

Typically, GGRPs are approximately equivalent in number to BGRPs but that can vary based on the powers of each team. One more or one less isn't too unusual, and this doesn't seem to be a standard game, so I'd hesitate to draw any conclusions.

How many GGRPs are dead?

 

[nysfl2]

If all the weapons are from BGRPs, either they're not on a board together, and the mod isn't letting them shoot each other, or there must be some other limitation that is causing them to miss their targets. Could it be something like they can only shoot someone who is voting for them, or something weird like that? Need to look at BF and JTG/guppy and see if anything like that works out.

 

[PitbullTD]

The rifle we believe was related to Klebold/Harris(JTG/Guppy) I thought, the mid caliber pistol I believe is related to the CC Permit. Shotgun was Bostonfred(unsure of role right now).

The bushmaster is out there, the small caliber pistol is out there.

Going to go back and read them as well. I'm sure there are more than 4BG's, I do know that much. You are missing something, not sure what just yet, but definitely more than 4 BG's. We've got 5 dead GG's, and 1 confirmed thats alive. 1 dead Indy (last man standing win condition, NRA president, Slapdash).

I think it's a 6/6/8/2 BGRP/GGRP/Villager/Indy. Give or take one on the Village/Indy. No way is it 7/7/7/1, or 8/8/5/1 or 8/8/4/2.

 

[PitbullTD]

If all the weapons are from BGRPs, either they're not on a board together, and the mod isn't letting them shoot each other, or there must be some other limitation that is causing them to miss their targets. Could it be something like they can only shoot someone who is voting for them, or something weird like that? Need to look at BF and JTG/guppy and see if anything like that works out.

I'm 99.9% sure they are not on board with each other and its a Last man/last team standing win condition for each of them.

 

[PitbullTD]

If all the weapons are from BGRPs, either they're not on a board together, and the mod isn't letting them shoot each other, or there must be some other limitation that is causing them to miss their targets. Could it be something like they can only shoot someone who is voting for them, or something weird like that? Need to look at BF and JTG/guppy and see if anything like that works out.

I'm 99.9% sure they are not on board with each other and its a Last man/last team standing win condition for each of them.

Basing that off the thinking that bostonfred wasn't blocked with the shotgun and just shot at someone who was already dead a couple of nights. I believe I posted a couple of his moves a few posts up that could possibly explain that.

 

[PitbullTD]

Veebs, what makes you think Nysfl is a GG? I can at this point, buy into possibly stryker, but I have seen nothing that warrants thinking Nysfl is a GG.

Still want an answer on this one.

 

[Psychopav]

7/7/7/1 seems much more likely to me.

BG's must be connected somehow or else they'd be indy's.

 

[Psychopav]

The only reason I say 7/7 is because there were masons & lovers.

 

[PitbullTD]

7/7/7/1 seems much more likely to me.

BG's must be connected somehow or else they'd be indy's.

I don't see us having 7 BG's due to the shots fired, unless the BG's have a role like Piers.

Also, I'm not sure that they are all disconnected, but they definitely aren't all connected otherwise there is no explanation that I can see for all of bostonfred's misses.

I'm also entertaining the thought that maybe there is less BG's than GGRP's, due to the lack of guns that GGRP roles have had. But I don't think that the less number of BG's auto goes to GGRP roles.

 

[PitbullTD]

We have dual pistols and bushmaster guns still out there.

As for the Bushmaster XM15-e2s heres what I can find:

Sandyhook killer : acted alone, model was Bushmaster XM15-s25

Fireman Killer: acted alone, convicted previously of murdering his Grandmother, used Bushmaster XM-15 e2s

excerpt from news article: Armed with a Smith and Wesson .38 revolver, a pump-action Mossberg shotgun, and, most chillingly, a .223 Bushmaster rifle rigged with a flash suppressor to conceal the source of fire, William Spengler, 62, crouched on an embankment behind a tree Monday while his car, home and the remains of his 67-year-old sister Cheryl were in flames.

In the fireman article, it states he used the same model used by Sandyhook killer, however most news articles state Sandyhook used XM15-S25, article for Fireman states e2S.

So pretty close but unsure...either way killer acting alone, and maybe neither of these is the roles, but its what I come up with in a short google search.

Dual pistols: The fort hood shooter had two pistols, but it was found that only one actually killed, thats all I've got on that one.

Wouldn't be surprised if there is possibly a Ted Nugent role in here, BGRP that maybe has Piers like powers for the other BGRP's?

Still think for the most part BG's are not all on the same team...

 

[PitbullTD]

Also have the CC permit out there, which I believe is the mid caliber pistol eluded to in a couple night recaps.

Stryker or Spoofy, can you tell us if you know the CC includes a pistol and any details you have on said pistol?

 

[nysfl2]

D2 - why does BG fred use his shotgun to kill claimed PJ Gizmo during the day? Worried he was outted by the fact that his shot didn't hit his target N1, and was going to try to claim vig?

 

[PitbullTD]

D2 - why does BG fred use his shotgun to kill claimed PJ Gizmo during the day? Worried he was outted by the fact that his shot didn't hit his target N1, and was going to try to claim vig?

I don't think fred is the one who used the shotgun during the day..I believe his power was borrowed by an Indy. Otherwise, his other blasts that missed would have been done during the day and been hits. I believe he was only able to shoot at night, and got unlucky in that he chose to fire at someone already fired upon and killed therefor missing.

also: vote nysfl2

 

[PitbullTD]

errr

unproxy vote

vote nysfl2

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

If you read through nysfl's posts when he actually started participating, it reads like GG. Ditto spoofy and sinn. I like the group nathan wdcrob keerock as the lynch pool. If you want to throw me in that group because im half-assing it, that works too :-*

 

[strykerpks]

Also have the CC permit out there, which I believe is the mid caliber pistol eluded to in a couple night recaps.

Stryker or Spoofy, can you tell us if you know the CC includes a pistol and any details you have on said pistol?

I've already pretty much spelled everything out. It is a one time permit for self defense at night time. If you actually happened to be shot at, there was a 50/50 chance you could fire back and kill your attacker. There was no mention of a specific type of gun or any other information. I then had to pass it to someone before the next day started.

 

[spOOfy]

lol, suck it fred.

 

[spOOfy]

well 1st off, kinda unusual to confirm the targets in the writeups, but icon doesn't do usual.

i had the permit yesterday. it protects you from harm and if it gets a wham, you have a 50% chance of killing your target. so fred tried to kill me and i guess random.org doesn't like him.

as for where to go next, i need to review. i've been offline since 3:30 and have to catch up the pack game a bit, sorry. coming into today my top choice was going to be fred. i went there earlier before the whole pav/slap thing came up from cyp, so he was still my top bg read.

be careful of nys. he's very good at looking good at end game and this is the time he will start trying to shine. pretty much everyone else in the game is kinda new to me so i will have to review.

 

[spOOfy]

dear mod, please update 1st post whenever you have a moment. thanks gb!

 

[nysfl2]

well 1st off, kinda unusual to confirm the targets in the writeups, but icon doesn't do usual.

i had the permit yesterday. it protects you from harm and if it gets a wham, you have a 50% chance of killing your target. so fred tried to kill me and i guess random.org doesn't like him.

as for where to go next, i need to review. i've been offline since 3:30 and have to catch up the pack game a bit, sorry. coming into today my top choice was going to be fred. i went there earlier before the whole pav/slap thing came up from cyp, so he was still my top bg read.

be careful of nys. he's very good at looking good at end game and this is the time he will start trying to shine. pretty much everyone else in the game is kinda new to me so i will have to review.

No worries - I'm actually good this time.

 

[nysfl2]

Leaning GG on keerock. He had a vote on JTG very early D2. Unless coached, I don't think it's likely that a noob busses a teammate who's linked to a second teammate that early in the game.

 

[nysfl2]

vote stryker

proxy pav