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[Steve Dallas]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner inAs long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Keep telling yourself that. I'll take LJ with no RBBC all day long instead of LT2 with Turner stealing carries.

Yea LJ just ran for 2 yards a pop versus the Cards and got his head taken off in the process. Now seems like a great time to trade the best RB on the planet for him.

Evidently, the LJ injury wasn't that serious, and he would've had another 6pts if not for the bush league facemask. This season, I'll take my chances with LJ week to week over LT and Turner vulturing of points each week.

 

[sdsjr3]

fellas, don't feed the troll.

This thread is laughable. Unreal.

 

[One]

If you have LT, and hand-cuffed Turner, next week is a golden opportunity to play them both and probably come away with some monster stats. If you're light on RBs or in bye week trouble, especially.

<Avg. ppg> LJ-28.75LT-24.9Gore-24Westy-23.4SJax-22.2Rudi-22.3Edge-20.66Tiki-20.9KJones-20Parker-20.8CTaylor-19.8RBrown-19.6Portis-17.48*PPR, Bye weeks subtracted( ..ex: LT's total divided by 4 not 5 games) ...LT's avg. will go up once he hits the soft spot of his schedule. No brainer.

 

[LivingTheDream]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner inAs long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Keep telling yourself that. I'll take LJ with no RBBC all day long instead of LT2 with Turner stealing carries.

Yea LJ just ran for 2 yards a pop versus the Cards and got his head taken off in the process. Now seems like a great time to trade the best RB on the planet for him.

Evidently, the LJ injury wasn't that serious, and he would've had another 6pts if not for the bush league facemask. This season, I'll take my chances with LJ week to week over LT and Turner vulturing of points each week.

I have LJ on my team-The stats are there, but the guy does NOT look good against terrible defenses.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

 

[Traders2001]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner inAs long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Disagree completely , i think he his on his way down . Turner looks much better than him running the ball .I say by the end of the season you will actually see the decline and might even see splitting 50 - 50.

or :11:

Question . Dynasty league : Would you trade for Tomlinson now .

 

[PahtyTom]

Tomlinson's typical game against an elite defense is absolutely horrible. Just horrible.And there's no excuse for it.

Exactly. A true stud RB doesn't flop against tough matchups. A stud RB will produce something and then eat up bad defenses. Tomlinson does alright against bad defenses and flops against a tough defense. He's overhyped.

Agreed .Parker ran for 58 yds 1 TD and a average of 4,0 ypc against one of the best defense in football.If they had a QB in Pitt , Parker would have run for 100 yds and a few TD's yesterday but unfortunately they have a game manager that cant manage anymore at QQQQQQQQQQQB.

Yea you're right. Willie Parker is better than LT. This whole thread is

 

[Banger]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner inAs long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Disagree completely , i think he his on his way down . Turner looks much better than him running the ball .I say by the end of the season you will actually see the decline and might even see splitting 50 - 50.

or :11:

Question . Dynasty league : Would you trade for Tomlinson now .

why wouldn't you? He's still on pace for over 400 touches and is the top RB in the league. This is where smart owners fleece weaker ones. Use the stats from the last two games (against the top defenses in the league) to indicate there is some kind of trend.

 

[perry147]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner inAs long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Disagree completely , i think he his on his way down . Turner looks much better than him running the ball .I say by the end of the season you will actually see the decline and might even see splitting 50 - 50.

or :11:

Question . Dynasty league : Would you trade for Tomlinson now .

I am an LT2 owner in a dynasty and I would not trade him for anyone.

 

[One]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner inAs long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Disagree completely , i think he his on his way down . Turner looks much better than him running the ball .I say by the end of the season you will actually see the decline and might even see splitting 50 - 50.

or :11:

Question . Dynasty league : Would you trade for Tomlinson now .

I am an LT2 owner in a dynasty and I would not trade him for anyone.

heh, next thing you'll see is a "LaDanian Tomlinson is a Fantasy BUST" thread. People love to hate on the guys they can't have.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

Tomlinson's typical game against an elite defense is absolutely horrible. Just horrible.And there's no excuse for it.

Exactly. A true stud RB doesn't flop against tough matchups. A stud RB will produce something and then eat up bad defenses. Tomlinson does alright against bad defenses and flops against a tough defense. He's overhyped.

Agreed .Parker ran for 58 yds 1 TD and a average of 4,0 ypc against one of the best defense in football.If they had a QB in Pitt , Parker would have run for 100 yds and a few TD's yesterday but unfortunately they have a game manager that cant manage anymore at QQQQQQQQQQQB.

Yea you're right. Willie Parker is better than LT. This whole thread is

Why do people equate better to fantasy points??? LJ is going to outproduce LT this year, barring injury and it is not going to be that close... The best running back does not always make the best fantasy running back... Situation and opportunity= fantasy points.. LT2 is an amazing back but given the current situation it is pretty obvious that Turner is goign to get carries to keep LT fresh... Nobody is going to take any carries from LJ...

 

[Despyzer]

Turner is clearly the better running back.

however, what confused me is that towards the end of the game last night, they had both of them, alot of times with LT lined up out wide. If your going to rest him, why not rest him?

Because he's a ridiculous decoy that softens up the D for those Turner runs.

 

[Banger]

Tomlinson's typical game against an elite defense is absolutely horrible. Just horrible.And there's no excuse for it.

Exactly. A true stud RB doesn't flop against tough matchups. A stud RB will produce something and then eat up bad defenses. Tomlinson does alright against bad defenses and flops against a tough defense. He's overhyped.

Agreed .Parker ran for 58 yds 1 TD and a average of 4,0 ypc against one of the best defense in football.If they had a QB in Pitt , Parker would have run for 100 yds and a few TD's yesterday but unfortunately they have a game manager that cant manage anymore at QQQQQQQQQQQB.

Yea you're right. Willie Parker is better than LT. This whole thread is

Why do people equate better to fantasy points??? LJ is going to outproduce LT this year, barring injury and it is not going to be that close... The best running back does not always make the best fantasy running back... Situation and opportunity= fantasy points.. LT2 is an amazing back but given the current situation it is pretty obvious that Turner is goign to get carries to keep LT fresh... Nobody is going to take any carries from LJ...

LT's historical touch/game is 25.9 this year it's 25.6.

 

[Norseman]

They are just giving those carries to Turner to motivate LT.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

Tomlinson's typical game against an elite defense is absolutely horrible. Just horrible.And there's no excuse for it.

Exactly. A true stud RB doesn't flop against tough matchups. A stud RB will produce something and then eat up bad defenses. Tomlinson does alright against bad defenses and flops against a tough defense. He's overhyped.

Agreed .Parker ran for 58 yds 1 TD and a average of 4,0 ypc against one of the best defense in football.If they had a QB in Pitt , Parker would have run for 100 yds and a few TD's yesterday but unfortunately they have a game manager that cant manage anymore at QQQQQQQQQQQB.

Yea you're right. Willie Parker is better than LT. This whole thread is

Why do people equate better to fantasy points??? LJ is going to outproduce LT this year, barring injury and it is not going to be that close... The best running back does not always make the best fantasy running back... Situation and opportunity= fantasy points.. LT2 is an amazing back but given the current situation it is pretty obvious that Turner is goign to get carries to keep LT fresh... Nobody is going to take any carries from LJ...

LT's historical touch/game is 25.9 this year it's 25.6.

And you don't see this changing as we move forward??? Did you watch last nights game? Turner has talent and if you were the chargers wouldn't you use him how they did last night to keep LT fresh for the end of the season and the playoffs? There is some serious denial going on in this thread...

 

[jcuadrado]

ok...the dude has played arguably the top 2 D's in the league (-chicago)....let's revisit this thread in the next few weeks when the Chargers play SF, Chiefs, Rams, Browns and Bengals...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Turner is clearly the better running back.

however, what confused me is that towards the end of the game last night, they had both of them, alot of times with LT lined up out wide. If your going to rest him, why not rest him?

Because he's a ridiculous decoy that softens up the D for those Turner runs.

LT is not a decoy, per se, he is the best pass catching back in the league. having Turner in the backfield with LT out wide is just another package of the O. Plus will take some of the wear & tear off of LT.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Tomlinson's typical game against an elite defense is absolutely horrible. Just horrible.And there's no excuse for it.

Exactly. A true stud RB doesn't flop against tough matchups. A stud RB will produce something and then eat up bad defenses. Tomlinson does alright against bad defenses and flops against a tough defense. He's overhyped.

Agreed .Parker ran for 58 yds 1 TD and a average of 4,0 ypc against one of the best defense in football.If they had a QB in Pitt , Parker would have run for 100 yds and a few TD's yesterday but unfortunately they have a game manager that cant manage anymore at QQQQQQQQQQQB.

Yea you're right. Willie Parker is better than LT. This whole thread is

Why do people equate better to fantasy points??? LJ is going to outproduce LT this year, barring injury and it is not going to be that close... The best running back does not always make the best fantasy running back... Situation and opportunity= fantasy points.. LT2 is an amazing back but given the current situation it is pretty obvious that Turner is goign to get carries to keep LT fresh... Nobody is going to take any carries from LJ...

LT's historical touch/game is 25.9 this year it's 25.6.

And you don't see this changing as we move forward??? Did you watch last nights game? Turner has talent and if you were the chargers wouldn't you use him how they did last night to keep LT fresh for the end of the season and the playoffs? There is some serious denial going on in this thread...

I expect LT to have lesser percentage of SD carries but the overall number of carries to go hope-and LT's # of touches to stay about the same.Improved defense and young QB= more running attempts for SD. Turner will benefit also.

 

[phrozen]

If I was an LT owner I would be glad they are working Turner in

As long as LT keeps getting the love at the stripe thats all that matters.

LT is still the #1 Fantasy back to have.

Disagree completely , i think he his on his way down . Turner looks much better than him running the ball .I say by the end of the season you will actually see the decline and might even see splitting 50 - 50.

Hey , yesterday was a crucial game ( big game ) Tomlinson 13 carries - Turner 11 carries .Turner looked much much better then Tomlinson running the ball.

If you were smart you would think before posting stupid replies.

Practice what you preach down?

 

[Despyzer]

LT is not a decoy, per se, he is the best pass catching back in the league. having Turner in the backfield with LT out wide is just another package of the O. Plus will take some of the wear & tear off of LT.

I wasn't claiming that Tomlinson is nothing but a decoy when he splits out wide. If he wasn't such a threat to catch the ball, he wouldn't really be much of a decoy, obviously. I was merely answering the question of why LaDainian is being moved instead of being taken out when Turner is being used as the feature back.

 

[Gr00vus]

LT is not a decoy, per se, he is the best pass catching back in the league. having Turner in the backfield with LT out wide is just another package of the O. Plus will take some of the wear & tear off of LT.

I wasn't claiming that Tomlinson is nothing but a decoy when he splits out wide. If he wasn't such a threat to catch the ball, he wouldn't really be much of a decoy, obviously. I was merely answering the question of why LaDainian is being moved instead of being taken out when Turner is being used as the feature back.

It's also good because he'll take a few less poundings - running a short pattern isn't going to put as much strain on him as taking inside handoffs and getting blasted by interior linemen and linebackers. I really like the idea, as long as it doesn't detract from the development/usage of Floyd and Jackson.

 

[Sinrman]

This whole thread cracks me up....

 

[hpnepon]

This whole thread cracks me up....

I can't even explain to myself why i took the time to read the whole thing.

 

[Shiver44]

LaDainian Tomlinson has been exactly what I have expected thus far. Two easy matchups, two big games, two tough matchups, two okay games. Looking at their schedule, he should tear up the next five weeks. As for Turner, I like that he's taking a lot of work off Tomlinson's shoulders. It will keep him fresh late in the year, when Fantasy owners need him the most.

 

[jonessed]

Splitting LT wide with Turner in the backfield was giving Pittsburgh fits last night. Since the OL was picking up the blitz so well there were plays with Gates, LT, AND Turner in. Talk about spreading the defense. I expect to see this split formation used more which should bring good numbers for LT. I'd rather see him get the ball in space than slammed up the middle over and over in Marty Ball mode.

 

[Biabreakable]

Splitting LT wide with Turner in the backfield was giving Pittsburgh fits last night. Since the OL was picking up the blitz so well there were plays with Gates, LT, AND Turner in. Talk about spreading the defense. I expect to see this split formation used more which should bring good numbers for LT. I'd rather see him get the ball in space than slammed up the middle over and over in Marty Ball mode.

Agreed.And if your league gives points for receptions thats just not right.

 

[dpeease]

This whole thread cracks me up....

I can't even explain to myself why i took the time to read the whole thing.

 

[Boltz712]

This whole thread cracks me up....

I can't even explain to myself why i took the time to read the whole thing.

I triple this motion! I wish I was in a league that people though LT was the 5th or 6th RB. I would be driving the :11: with these cats aboard all the way to the bank! Good God!!!

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Ah, San Diego. It means "a whale's ######."

turner's too good to keep off the field, but LT is too good and puts up too many fp to lump him in with rbbcs....

 

[George Jefferson]

SD would be wise to give the Burner 10+ carries a game, but man, LT is the stud of all studs, and it must be hard for Marty to take him out of the game.

Right... LT is such a stud that Turner came in and blew away the defense last night compared to what LT could do against them. On top of that, LT doesn't even average 4 yards per carry while Turner is averaging 7. And it isn't like Turner has just a small amount of carries thereby inflating his YPC. Turner is clearly the better running back. He rushed well against Pittsburgh. LT rolled over and died.

Pitt gameplanned to stop LT, and Rivers in turn beat them. If Pitt wants to shut down a RB, they will.

Then explain why they couldn't stop Turner. Turner was clearly a detriment to their winning. There's no point in stopping LT and not Turner.

Because when Turner was getting the ball PIT was getting burned by the pass opening the lanes. It could have happened to LT if he were getting the carries.

LT got two carries on that final drive and did nothing with them. Turner, on the other hand, broke out.

Edwardscat is obviously a Turner owner with a littlepickle for him.

 

[Warpig]

I knew the Chargers wanted to get Turner some more touches but is this the way it is going to be from here on in? I will admit Turner does run with good power but it seemed like LT never really got it going last night.

He had 8 catches and 13 rushes. PIT D is very stout, and contained him. Rivers had almost 40 PA, it seems to me that it was more to keep the Defense guessing as to what is going on.LT is getting a little older, and he can't continue with all of these 300+ carry years. They had a early bye this year, and as a LT owner, I'm looking forward to him being fresh towards the end of the year.

If they secure a playoff spot early...who do you think they will showcase in the slop games that don't really matter?I guess they have to clinch before we have that to worry about though.

 

[Ozymandias]

Here's Vic Carucci's take on it:

Good Idea

"The San Diego Chargers' using two-back sets, with LaDainian Tomlinson and Michael Turner, in the second half of their 23-13 triumph over the Pittsburgh Steelers. The strategy went a long way toward allowing the Chargers to rush for 111 yards on 23 carries and take control of the game in the second half. When Turner was in the backfield, Tomlinson lined up at slot back or wide receiver. The idea is to force the defense to pick its poison. If a linebacker covers Tomlinson, he is going to easily win that matchup and take a catch in the flat for a nice gain. If a safety is assigned to Tomlinson, Turner will likely get the handoff with one fewer body near the line of scrimmage to defend the run. Look for the Chargers to make more extensive use of the formation against future opponents."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9716633

So, as has been mentioned above, we will see more two back sets from SD, and it will lighten the load on LT. But he's still a stud; only he won't see 400 carries.

 

[Garts]

Turner with 1 carry!

Nice RBBC.

 

[Sigfawn]

Turner with 1 carry!Nice RBBC.

Yeah that Turner flex junk didn't last long.

 

[Garts]

Turner with 1 carry!Nice RBBC.

Yeah that Turner flex junk didn't last long.

I got burnt.