After 2 weeks --- which DEFENSIVE units are for real ... your top 5 (1 Viewer)

[Sanboy]

your top 5 to 10 ( whatever you want to rank ) defensive units

which ones are for real .. and which ones are simply looking good because of early matchups ...

1. Ravens

2. Steelers

3. Bears

4. Chargers

5. Falcons

6. Jags

***EDITED >> TOTAlly forgot about the bears

 

[nxmehta]

1. Ravens

2. Bears

3. Chargers

4. Falcons

5. Bills

 

[NatronIsMean]

Top 5 has to have:

Bears

Falcons

Ravens

Seahawks

And tough call between the Steelers and Jags

We'll see in the end. And Bears will be #1.

 

[lord_helmet]

1.Ravens

2.Bears

3.Jaguars

4.Steelers

5.Falcons (with Abraham on the field)

 

[Assani Fisher]

for the record, this is real life not FF right?

 

[Assani Fisher]

Chargers havn't played anyone for real yet. My top 5:

1. Jacksonville

2. Chicago

3. Baltimore

4. Pittsburgh

5. Atlanta

Edit to add: The first 4 are in a league of their own. There were quite a few teams that I came close to including in the #5 spot.

 

[Mapmaker]

Chargers havn't played anyone for real yet. My top 5:1. Jacksonville2. Chicago3. Baltimore4. Pittsburgh5. AtlantaEdit to add: The first 4 are in a league of their own. There were quite a few teams that I came close to including in the #5 spot.

I have to agree ... the top 4 are in a League of Their Own ... after that there's a bunch of wannabe/maybe D's that still have a lot to proveChicagoBaltimoreJacksonvillePittsburgDallasSan DiegoAtlantaCarolina

 

[jon_mx]

Chargers havn't played anyone for real yet. My top 5:1. Jacksonville2. Chicago3. Baltimore4. Pittsburgh5. AtlantaEdit to add: The first 4 are in a league of their own. There were quite a few teams that I came close to including in the #5 spot.

I think San Diego may also be in that top tier.

 

[PMENFAN]

Chicago

Baltimore

Jacksonville

Pittsburgh

Atlanta

5B Cincinatti

Cinci 5B They haven't played anybody yet, but they also have given up too much either.

I feel these teams have differentiated themselves thus far. Hot on there heel, but having questions based on who they've played and weaknesses, from giving up sporading scoring to not stopping the run consistently.

Buffalo, Denver, Carolina, TB , Carolina and NE and in that order. They've all shown some strength, but weakness at times as well.

 

[Big Score]

1.Ravens

2.Bears

3.Jaguars

4.Steelers

5.Falcons (with Abraham on the field)

Good point - although the Falcons D did have 3 picks & hold Tampa to only 3 points without Abraham.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

With KC and Denver struggling so far. I think SD will be up there.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Chargers havn't played anyone for real yet. My top 5:1. Jacksonville2. Chicago3. Baltimore4. Pittsburgh5. AtlantaEdit to add: The first 4 are in a league of their own. There were quite a few teams that I came close to including in the #5 spot.

Chargers havent played anyone yet, but the Bears have? LolI have no problem with the thinking that the Chargers may not be a top 5 Defense, that is your opinion, but don't try to slough it off on opponents played. Same goes with Baltimore.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Chargers havn't played anyone for real yet. My top 5:1. Jacksonville2. Chicago3. Baltimore4. Pittsburgh5. AtlantaEdit to add: The first 4 are in a league of their own. There were quite a few teams that I came close to including in the #5 spot.

Chargers havent played anyone yet, but the Bears have? LolI have no problem with the thinking that the Chargers may not be a top 5 Defense, that is your opinion, but don't try to slough it off on opponents played. Same goes with Baltimore.

really all the top D's have played horrible teams. so

 

[bjabrad]

nothing to add here from an analysis standpoint but wanted to preach to the choir that whoever can accurately predict or understand which DEF is the best vs run and vs pass will be able to predict a team strength of schedule and be able to plan which players to trade for, trade away and start for the regular season and playoffs. After seeing each team put up two games worth of performance we've got a much better picture of which DEF units are for real this year.

I'm checking back on an hourly basis fr Gray's Strenth of Schedule to be released as I find it the #1 tool for strategy from this point on.

Nice topic guys.

OK my two cents,,,even though we have two games per team in the books, we don't have a representative sample size yet because some of these teams have face good offenses and some have faced poor offenses or what we perceive to be good and poor at this point.

Teams who have allowed 36 or less total points after two games.

AFC:

NE allowed 17 BUF, 17 NYJ

BUF allowed 19 NE, 6 MIA (BUF has actually faced two decent offenses IMO)

CIN allowed 10 KC, 17 CLE

BAL allowed 0 TB, 6 OAK

PIT allowed 17 MIA, 9 JAX (MIA scored 17 vs PIT and 6 vs BUF)

SD allowed 0 OAK, 7 TEN (SD hasn't played anybody yet)

DEN allowed 18 STL, 6 KC

KC allowed 23 CIN, 9 DEN (KC DEF is better than most believe but also Plummer is worse)

NFC:

DAL allowed 24 JAX, 10 WAS

CHI allowed 0 GB, 7 DET (DET may turn out to be a quality win)

MIN allowed 16 WAS, 13 CAR

ATL allowed 6 CAR, 3 TB

CAR allowed 20 ATL, 16 MIN (No surpise CAR is 0-2 after facing two very good teams)

SEA allowed 6 DET, 10 AZ (same DEF result vs DET as CHI) (DET QB/RB/WR may wake up soon)

STL allowed 10 DEN, 20 SF

Top Tier DEF: CHI, BAL, SEA, ATL, SD, PIT

#2 Tier DEF: BUF, CIN

#3 Tier DEF: NE, DEN, KC, DAL, MIN, CAR, STL

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

nothing to add here from an analysis standpoint but wanted to preach to the choir that whoever can accurately predict or understand which DEF is the best vs run and vs pass will be able to predict a team strength of schedule and be able to plan which players to trade for, trade away and start for the regular season and playoffs. After seeing each team put up two games worth of performance we've got a much better picture of which DEF units are for real this year. I'm checking back on an hourly basis fr Gray's Strenth of Schedule to be released as I find it the #1 tool for strategy from this point on. Nice topic guys. OK my two cents,,,even though we have two games per team in the books, we don't have a representative sample size yet because some of these teams have face good offenses and some have faced poor offenses or what we perceive to be good and poor at this point. Teams who have allowed 36 or less total points after two games.AFC:NE allowed 17 BUF, 17 NYJ BUF allowed 19 NE, 6 MIA (BUF has actually faced two decent offenses IMO)CIN allowed 10 KC, 17 CLE BAL allowed 0 TB, 6 OAK PIT allowed 17 MIA, 9 JAX (MIA scored 17 vs PIT and 6 vs BUF)SD allowed 0 OAK, 7 TEN (SD hasn't played anybody yet)DEN allowed 18 STL, 6 KCKC allowed 23 CIN, 9 DEN (KC DEF is better than most believe but also Plummer is worse)NFCAL allowed 24 JAX, 10 WASCHI allowed 0 GB, 7 DET (DET may turn out to be a quality win)MIN allowed 16 WAS, 13 CARATL allowed 6 CAR, 3 TBCAR allowed 20 ATL, 16 MIN (No surpise CAR is 0-2 after facing two very good teams)SEA allowed 6 DET, 10 AZ (same DEF result vs DET as CHI) (DET QB/RB/WR may wake up soon)STL allowed 10 DEN, 20 SF Top Tier DEF: CHI, BAL, SEA, ATL, SD, PIT#2 Tier DEF: BUF, CIN#3 Tier DEF: NE, DEN, KC, DAL, MIN, CAR, STL

Jags are in the bottom tier?

 

[jurrassic]

What do you guys think of the Giants D from a fantasy perspective? Are the Bills a better option?

 

[jetpack]

1. Jaguars - Look at the teams they played.

2. Ravens - check back after playing an elite team.

3. Bears - check back after playing an elite team

4. Steelers - Just sick against Miami and limited JAX to field goals even though their offense was in a coma.

5. Pick 'em - Chargers, Bills, Falcons, Bengals

Honorable mention to Browns for physically beating up the Bengals.

 

[GoBills02]

I can't put the Bills in the class of Defenses to talk about except for being better than advertised. I refuse to even consider them being top ten until they can prove to me that teams can't run all over them. Miami should have ran all over them last week, but thanks to Mike Mularkey, they went away from "that" game plan.

The Pats the week before had their way with them. While the D is improved and much faster than last year, they are giving up way too many 8-10 yard runs right now. I love Donte Whitner, but that doesn't mean I want to see him tackling the RB every play.

 

[bjabrad]

nothing to add here from an analysis standpoint but wanted to preach to the choir that whoever can accurately predict or understand which DEF is the best vs run and vs pass will be able to predict a team strength of schedule and be able to plan which players to trade for, trade away and start for the regular season and playoffs. After seeing each team put up two games worth of performance we've got a much better picture of which DEF units are for real this year. I'm checking back on an hourly basis fr Gray's Strenth of Schedule to be released as I find it the #1 tool for strategy from this point on. Nice topic guys. OK my two cents,,,even though we have two games per team in the books, we don't have a representative sample size yet because some of these teams have face good offenses and some have faced poor offenses or what we perceive to be good and poor at this point. Teams who have allowed 36 or less total points after two games.AFC:NE allowed 17 BUF, 17 NYJ BUF allowed 19 NE, 6 MIA (BUF has actually faced two decent offenses IMO)CIN allowed 10 KC, 17 CLE BAL allowed 0 TB, 6 OAK PIT allowed 17 MIA, 9 JAX (MIA scored 17 vs PIT and 6 vs BUF)SD allowed 0 OAK, 7 TEN (SD hasn't played anybody yet)DEN allowed 18 STL, 6 KCKC allowed 23 CIN, 9 DEN (KC DEF is better than most believe but also Plummer is worse)JAX allowed 17 DAL, 0 PIT (is DAL offense that much better than PIT?)NFCAL allowed 24 JAX, 10 WASCHI allowed 0 GB, 7 DET (DET may turn out to be a quality win)MIN allowed 16 WAS, 13 CARATL allowed 6 CAR, 3 TBCAR allowed 20 ATL, 16 MIN (No surpise CAR is 0-2 after facing two very good teams)SEA allowed 6 DET, 10 AZ (same DEF result vs DET as CHI) (DET QB/RB/WR may wake up soon)STL allowed 10 DEN, 20 SF Top Tier DEF: CHI, BAL, SEA, ATL, SD, PIT, JAX#2 Tier DEF: BUF, CIN#3 Tier DEF: NE, DEN, KC, DAL, MIN, CAR, STL

Jags are in the bottom tier?

FIXED, good catch

 

[Wheelhouse]

Don't let your guard down on Carolina. Their defense is stout. All they need is a big play defensive TD at the right time to get the mojo working in their favor and when that happens, the flood gates will be open. I honestly think that's what John Fox was trying to accomplish with that attempted lateral pass on the punt return that went awfully wrong.

 

[blenderfrog]

1. Ravens

2. Bears

3. Chargers

4. Falcons

5. Bills

Bills at 5??? Seriously??? If Miami had a decent back-up QB playing last week, they would have scored 20+ points. Culpepper was terrrible.

 

[Footballhead]

1. Jags - played 2 tough teams and came on top

2. Baltimore - played 2 struggling teams, TB and OAK but dominated them, not just got lucky

3. Atlanta - with John Abrahams in lineup, without they're still a top ten, depending given if their O don't turnover the ball and give the oppoent a short field

4. Cowboys - I feel, they were let down by their O turnover in week 1.

5. Chiefs - go ahead and laugh

 

[jon_mx]

1. Jags - played 2 tough teams and came on top2. Baltimore - played 2 struggling teams, TB and OAK but dominated them, not just got lucky3. Atlanta - with John Abrahams in lineup, without they're still a top ten, depending given if their O don't turnover the ball and give the oppoent a short field4. Cowboys - I feel, they were let down by their O turnover in week 1.5. Chiefs - go ahead and laugh

Any top 5 defense list that does not include the Bears is a no go. San Diego is also clearly one of the top 5 defenses. The Chiefs and Cowboys are not in that tier. The top 5 defenses are Jags, Ravans, Falcons, Bears, and Chargers. Not sure what order.

 

[Jayrod]

1. Baltimore - they are back to the dominating form of their glory days

2. Chicago - just as good as last year, maybe even better

3. Jacksonville - they've earned their way here with little pre-season hype

4. Pittsburgh - carried the team in two tough games

5a. Atlanta - look good, but have domintated time of possesion with run game, making D easier

5b. San Diego - did what they were supposed to against two of the worst teams in football

 

[mhrutkowski]

I have TB and I'm very concerned however in a 10 team league the top 15 defenses are gone. Anyone think they'll ever be respectable? #10-12

 

[TitusIII]

1. Jags - played 2 tough teams and came on top2. Baltimore - played 2 struggling teams, TB and OAK but dominated them, not just got lucky3. Atlanta - with John Abrahams in lineup, without they're still a top ten, depending given if their O don't turnover the ball and give the oppoent a short field4. Cowboys - I feel, they were let down by their O turnover in week 1.5. Chiefs - go ahead and laugh

Any top 5 defense list that does not include the Bears is a no go. San Diego is also clearly one of the top 5 defenses.

I mean, come on, they are stacked at every position. (referring to the Bears, although I believe the Chargers are top defense as well)