Ahman Green's Status for this year? (1 Viewer)

[The Mechanic]

Anyone have a opinion on his upcomming year?

Will he ever be the player he was before the ruptured quadriceps tendon?

 

[Biabreakable]

I saw in a spurts draft that Ahman Green was still available in round 6.

It seems to me that he offers extremly high value in redraft round 4 or later because if fully recovered Green could still put up Rb 1 numbers.

People are wary due to the possible lingering effects of his injury and the looming possibility that he will split carries with Gado.

With Favre back for another season defenses have to account for him. But I could see the team leaning heavily on the running game and if they have improved thier Oline Ahman Green could have an outstanding year. Especialy if he is utilised more in as a reciever. Which is very possible considering thier lack of other recieving threats with Waker gone and Murphy not coming back from injury.

 

[Pick]

Green will miss mini-camp.

 

[Banger]

Green had one stud year several years ago when Favre's thumb was broken. Since then he's pretty much had nothing but injuries and mediocre seasons (even when "healthy"). They don't have a good line, the defense will still probably be poor, big time injury risk, Favre's last year and he will be throwing the rock all over the place = I'll pass.

 

[BigRed]

Good points - which will hopefully drive his value down even further and I can get him cheap in my auction league.

No, I don't expect much this year either, but if he becomes fairly cheap he's worth a shot ie RB3 type (assuming you're one of those RB ho's).

 

[RAPTURE]

Maybe I am in the minority, but I feel he will have more touches than a lot of backs who will be going in the 2nd round, i.e. Julius Jones, Willie Parker, Deuce McAllister. If I am not mistaken, his injury was around week 5 which will give him plenty of time for recover.

In addition to my positive outlook, the packers normally do not run a RBBC approach for their system. The job is his when it was announced a month or so ago by new coach Mike McCarthy.

The biggest plus of all - THE PACKERS DID NOT DRAFT A RB.

RAPTURE

 

[Big Score]

If I am not mistaken, his injury was around week 5 which will give him plenty of time for recover.

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From the link provided by Pick

Green still is several months away from returning from his torn quadriceps tendon. It’s unlikely he’ll participate in any of the offseason practices, and it’s not even a given he’ll be ready for the start of training camp in late July.

 

[RAPTURE]

Big Score - what you forgot to add to your article was this:

Fantasy Impact: The Packers are taking it slow with Green. We think he'll be ready for the start of the season, though.

http://www.rtsports.com/php/draft-guide-player.php?PN=5647

Ahman Green is going to be fine and will put up numbers in the range of 1000-1100 & 250-350 receiving with 6-8 TD's.

RAPTURE

 

[Holy Roller]

Green had one stud year several years ago when Favre's thumb was broken.  Since then he's pretty much had nothing but injuries and mediocre seasons (even when "healthy").  They don't have a good line, the defense will still probably be poor, big time injury risk, Favre's last year and he will be throwing the rock all over the place = I'll pass.

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I can't help but feel pretty good about what they've done on defense. They honestly weren't too poor last year defensively, and as far as I can tell they have made nice improvements across the board (Woodson, Hawk, Hodge, Pickett, Manuel added in addition to re-signing Kampman and Cole). Now unless you believe it was only because of Bates as DC last year, I can't see their defense being an issue. In fact, Bates' system is still in place.

 

[Big Score]

Probably need to boil it down onto "Pros" & "Cons" for Green

Pros

#1) Defense should be better which in turn should keep the scores closer the entire game. That favors more use of the Run Game for clock control & less reliance on the Pass Game to play catch up.

#2) Walker, Chatman & Murphy are all gone. That leaves Driver & Fergy + Rookies for Favre to throw to at WR.

#3) Tony Fisher is gone. No more pulling Green on 3rd and longs for Sherman's pet pass catching back.

#4) O'Line started coming on at the end of last year and a couple of seemingly decent O'Line prospects drafted. Should at least be able to spell the starters keeping them fresh.

Cons

#1) The injury itself.

#2) Gado & Davenport.

#3) Possibly crippled passing game? Could it be with Green Bays' depleted receiving corps, DC's focus on stopping the run more?

#4) Green's well documented fumblitis. Will the new Coaching staff be as forgiving as Sherman was?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Probably need to boil it down onto "Pros" & "Cons" for Green

#4) Green's well documented fumblitis. Will the new Coaching staff be as forgiving as Sherman was?

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This has been proven to be a myth.

 

[David Yudkin]

Green still is several months away from returning from his torn quadriceps tendon. It’s unlikely he’ll participate in any of the offseason practices, and it’s not even a given he’ll be ready for the start of training camp in late July.

LINKWell, this certainly can't be viewed as good news. I'd say Ahman is a dicey pick at best for a RB3 (and there are still some that have hope he could be a RB2 this year). Other sites are speculating that Green could even be cut entirely if he does not get on the field in training camp and doesn't look ready to go.

 

[Big Score]

Probably need to boil it down onto "Pros" & "Cons" for Green

#4) Green's well documented fumblitis. Will the new Coaching staff be as forgiving as Sherman was?

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This has been proven to be a myth.
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Holmgren stated when he traded Ahman to Green Bay, a major reason was because of ball security concerns. Since joining the Pack in 2000, Green has fumbled 30 times in 80 games.

Where's the myth?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Probably need to boil it down onto "Pros" & "Cons" for Green

#4) Green's well documented fumblitis. Will the new Coaching staff be as forgiving as Sherman was?

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This has been proven to be a myth.
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Holmgren stated when he traded Ahman to Green Bay, a major reason was because of ball security concerns. Since joining the Pack in 2000, Green has fumbled 30 times in 80 games.

Where's the myth?

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Green has had 1605 carries and 304 receptions in his career with 33 fumbles and 23 of those were lost.One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma. By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

Yes, Holmgren thought Green had a fumbling problem but when you look at what Green did while with the Packers that problem isn't near as bad as many perceived it to be. Just like the myth that Green was often injured prior to the 2005 season.

 

[Red Apples]

You may want to pickup green as a handcuff to samkon gado, other than that i wouldnt bother.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

You may want to pickup green as a handcuff to samkon gado, other than that i wouldnt bother.

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Now there's a guy with a fumbling problem.

 

[nygiants56]

Green had one stud year several years ago when Favre's thumb was broken.  Since then he's pretty much had nothing but injuries and mediocre seasons (even when "healthy").  They don't have a good line, the defense will still probably be poor, big time injury risk, Favre's last year and he will be throwing the rock all over the place = I'll pass.

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not to mention the accute fumbleitis he suffers from..its a debilitating disease...

 

[Big Score]

when you look at what Green did while with the Packers that problem isn't near as bad as many perceived it to be.

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Fla\/\/ed,Green's 30 fumbles in 80 games, is not a perceived problem. It is a reality.

 

[wannabee]

when you look at what Green did while with the Packers that problem isn't near as bad as many perceived it to be.

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Fla\/\/ed,Green's 30 fumbles in 80 games, is not a perceived problem. It is a reality.

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I am sure Gado's 4 fumbles in 8 games are better ......

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

when you look at what Green did while with the Packers that problem isn't near as bad as many perceived it to be.

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Fla\/\/ed,Green's 30 fumbles in 80 games, is not a perceived problem. It is a reality.

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It's a good thing Holmgren traded him too because of it

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Green had one stud year several years ago when Favre's thumb was broken.  Since then he's pretty much had nothing but injuries and mediocre seasons (even when "healthy").

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Here is a link you may want to check regarding Green's numbers and how many starts he made.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12404

 

[Big Score]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.

 

[Big Score]

when you look at what Green did while with the Packers that problem isn't near as bad as many perceived it to be.

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Fla\/\/ed,Green's 30 fumbles in 80 games, is not a perceived problem. It is a reality.

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It's a good thing Holmgren traded him too because of it
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It is isn't it? With Green out of the way at RB, Holmgren had reason to draft Alexander.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
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Fred Vinson

 

[Big Score]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
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Fred Vinson

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Shaun Alexander

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
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Fred Vinson

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Shaun Alexander
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Ok...you can be the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one.

 

[Big Score]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
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Fred Vinson

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Shaun Alexander
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Ok...you can be the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one.
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No Bubba. L e t ... m e ... t y p e ... r e a l ... s l o w ... s o ... y o u ... c a n ... u n d e r s t a n d.

G r e e n ... o u t ... o f ... t h e ...w a y, ... H o l m g r e n ... d r a f t s ... A l e x a n d e r.

T h a t ... w o r k e d ... o u t ... w e l l.

But enough of your thread hi-jack.

If your drafts are much later in the year and you know Green is completely recovered from his injury, he'll be a viable #2 RB IMO.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
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Fred Vinson

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Shaun Alexander
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Ok...you can be the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one.
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No Bubba. L e t ... m e ... t y p e ... r e a l ... s l o w ... s o ... y o u ... c a n ... u n d e r s t a n d.

G r e e n ... o u t ... o f ... t h e ...w a y, ... H o l m g r e n ... d r a f t s ... A l e x a n d e r.

T h a t ... w o r k e d ... o u t ... w e l l.

But enough of your thread hi-jack.

If your drafts are much later in the year and you know Green is completely recovered from his injury, he'll be a viable #2 RB IMO.

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There you go with the name calling again.As I stated, I'm glad you are the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one for Seattle. I guess you missed the concept that they actually could have gotten something for Green IN ADDITION to opening up a RB spot.

 

[Big Score]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

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Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

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Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Fred Vinson

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Shaun Alexander
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Ok...you can be the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No Bubba. L e t ... m e ... t y p e ... r e a l ... s l o w ... s o ... y o u ... c a n ... u n d e r s t a n d.

G r e e n ... o u t ... o f ... t h e ...w a y, ... H o l m g r e n ... d r a f t s ... A l e x a n d e r.

T h a t ... w o r k e d ... o u t ... w e l l.

But enough of your thread hi-jack.

If your drafts are much later in the year and you know Green is completely recovered from his injury, he'll be a viable #2 RB IMO.

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There you go with the name calling again.
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As I stated, I'm glad you are the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one for Seattle. I guess you missed the concept that they actually could have gotten something for Green IN ADDITION to opening up a RB spot.

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I can see it's an exercise in futility to attempt a discourse with you.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

One reason Holmgren admitted to for trading Green was Green's asthma.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, Ahman's asthmatic condition was indeed one of Holmgrens reasons, but ball security was Holmgren's major stated reason for shipping Green out of Seattle.

By the way, how did that trade work out for Holmgren?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Considering that moving Green out of Seattle opened up the RB position for Holmgren to draft Alexander....I'd say it worked out pretty darn well.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Fred Vinson

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Shaun Alexander
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok...you can be the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No Bubba. L e t ... m e ... t y p e ... r e a l ... s l o w ... s o ... y o u ... c a n ... u n d e r s t a n d.

G r e e n ... o u t ... o f ... t h e ...w a y, ... H o l m g r e n ... d r a f t s ... A l e x a n d e r.

T h a t ... w o r k e d ... o u t ... w e l l.

But enough of your thread hi-jack.

If your drafts are much later in the year and you know Green is completely recovered from his injury, he'll be a viable #2 RB IMO.

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There you go with the name calling again.
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As I stated, I'm glad you are the only one on record that thinks the Ahman Green for Fred Vinson trade was a good one for Seattle. I guess you missed the concept that they actually could have gotten something for Green IN ADDITION to opening up a RB spot.

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I can see it's an exercise in futility to attempt a discourse with you.
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[Big Score]

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Do you have anything useful to contribute to this threads actual topic?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

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Do you have anything useful to contribute to this threads actual topic?
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I did and you didn't like it.

 

[Frank Black]

This latest report scares me away from Green. However, I agree that if your draft is late enough to have a more accurate picture, he may be good value if other owners are scared off. Still, why was Gado able to put up better numbers than Green last year on a PPG basis? Did the OL get better as the season progressed, or has Green simply dropped off a lot?

 

[Traders2001]

Love it . So Davenport will start if healthy ...

Gado will back him up , Gado ai nt no starter in the NFL .

 

[David Yudkin]

This latest report scares me away from Green.  However, I agree that if your draft is late enough to have a more accurate picture, he may be good value if other owners are scared off.  Still, why was Gado able to put up better numbers than Green last year on a PPG basis?  Did the OL get better as the season progressed, or has Green simply dropped off a lot?

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For starters, IIRC, Ahman played through his injury until he couldn't go anymore. If that were the case, that would explain things right there.

 

[Big Score]

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Do you have anything useful to contribute to this threads actual topic?
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I did and you didn't like it.
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This is the thread Title: "Ahman Green's Status for this year?"

This is the thread Post Question:

"Anyone have a opinion on his upcomming year?

Will he ever be the player he was before the ruptured quadriceps tendon?"

I seemed to have missed your contribution to this threads actual topic.

What was that contribution again?

 

[Traders2001]

when you look at what Green did while with the Packers that problem isn't near as bad as many perceived it to be.

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Fla\/\/ed,Green's 30 fumbles in 80 games, is not a perceived problem. It is a reality.

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I am sure Gado's 4 fumbles in 8 games are better ......
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I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played .

Davenport is the GB RB to pick .

 

[Traders2001]

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Do you have anything useful to contribute to this threads actual topic?
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I did and you didn't like it.
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This is the thread Title: "Ahman Green's Status for this year?"

This is the thread Post Question:

"Anyone have a opinion on his upcomming year?

Will he ever be the player he was before the ruptured quadriceps tendon?"

I seemed to have missed your contribution to this threads actual topic.

What was that contribution again?

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We have been telling you all along , zero.Davenport will start ( some say it s Gado , i dont agree ) and Gado will back him up .

Green is done.

 

[wannabee]

Green just turned 29. He has only 1600 carries and 300 catches in his career. Other than last year, since coming to Green Bay, Green has missed a total of 3 games in five years. He has been durable. And, it is nonsense that a healthy Green could not beat out Davenport or Gado.

In the article above, it says that Gado will be running in Green's spot. I think that means that Green is the man, when healthy.

 

[Big Score]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+

 

[Red Apples]

Green just turned 29.  He has only 1600 carries and 300 catches in his career.  Other than last year, since coming to Green Bay, Green has missed a total of 3 games in five years.  He has been durable.  And, it is nonsense that a healthy Green could not beat out Davenport or Gado.

In the article above, it says that Gado will be running in Green's spot.  I think that means that Green is the man, when healthy.

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those of you who wish to sleep on gado for yet another year, please feel free too, but it's a mistake.

 

[helix]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love it when guys play fast and loose with the facts. I watched each game he played and he looked good against PIT, ATL, PHI, CHI and DET. Gado blew the MIN game and was injured against BALT. 5-1-1 is not bad for an undrafted FA. The fumbling was/is an issue, but you never know. He played hard and seemed to make the most of his opportunity. I would not dismiss his chances to be a factor in the Greeen Bay RB situation. He will get his shot to show his stuff in the offseason as Green and Poop are out. Strange things happen in the NFL.

 

[Big Score]

Green just turned 29.  He has only 1600 carries and 300 catches in his career.  Other than last year, since coming to Green Bay, Green has missed a total of 3 games in five years.  He has been durable.  And, it is nonsense that a healthy Green could not beat out Davenport or Gado.

In the article above, it says that Gado will be running in Green's spot.  I think that means that Green is the man, when healthy.

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those of you who wish to sleep on gado for yet another year, please feel free too, but it's a mistake.
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To be honest Red Apples, if Green is healthy, everything I've read points to Gado being his back up.

 

[Traders2001]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love it when guys play fast and loose with the facts. I watched each game he played and he looked good against PIT, ATL, PHI, CHI and DET. Gado blew the MIN game and was injured against BALT. 5-1-1 is not bad for an undrafted FA. The fumbling was/is an issue, but you never know. He played hard and seemed to make the most of his opportunity. I would not dismiss his chances to be a factor in the Greeen Bay RB situation. He will get his shot to show his stuff in the offseason as Green and Poop are out. Strange things happen in the NFL.

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ESPN.com estimates Najeh Davenport is a month away from testing his broken right ankle.Samkon Gado will take snaps with the first team in May mini-camps. Davenport's style appears to fit Green Bay's new offense well and he'll be healthy faster than Ahman Green. He's someone to watch closely this summer. May. 4 - 1:05 pm et

 

[Big Score]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love it when guys play fast and loose with the facts. I watched each game he played and he looked good against PIT, ATL, PHI, CHI and DET. Gado blew the MIN game and was injured against BALT. 5-1-1 is not bad for an undrafted FA. The fumbling was/is an issue, but you never know. He played hard and seemed to make the most of his opportunity. I would not dismiss his chances to be a factor in the Greeen Bay RB situation. He will get his shot to show his stuff in the offseason as Green and Poop are out. Strange things happen in the NFL.

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ESPN.com estimates Najeh Davenport is a month away from testing his broken right ankle.Samkon Gado will take snaps with the first team in May mini-camps. Davenport's style appears to fit Green Bay's new offense well and he'll be healthy faster than Ahman Green. He's someone to watch closely this summer. May. 4 - 1:05 pm et

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What's the word on Green Bay's new offense, Traders2001?

 

[helix]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love it when guys play fast and loose with the facts. I watched each game he played and he looked good against PIT, ATL, PHI, CHI and DET. Gado blew the MIN game and was injured against BALT. 5-1-1 is not bad for an undrafted FA. The fumbling was/is an issue, but you never know. He played hard and seemed to make the most of his opportunity. I would not dismiss his chances to be a factor in the Greeen Bay RB situation. He will get his shot to show his stuff in the offseason as Green and Poop are out. Strange things happen in the NFL.

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ESPN.com estimates Najeh Davenport is a month away from testing his broken right ankle.Samkon Gado will take snaps with the first team in May mini-camps. Davenport's style appears to fit Green Bay's new offense well and he'll be healthy faster than Ahman Green. He's someone to watch closely this summer. May. 4 - 1:05 pm et

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Your 1st statement still makes little sense. And all the second one states is that Poop will not play for at least another month. In the meantime, Gado is the only healthy back taking snaps. If he looks good, I have a feeling he will see some time in 2006. Coaches will find a way to use a back with some speed and power. They just have to fix his fumbling--

 

[Traders2001]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love it when guys play fast and loose with the facts. I watched each game he played and he looked good against PIT, ATL, PHI, CHI and DET. Gado blew the MIN game and was injured against BALT. 5-1-1 is not bad for an undrafted FA. The fumbling was/is an issue, but you never know. He played hard and seemed to make the most of his opportunity. I would not dismiss his chances to be a factor in the Greeen Bay RB situation. He will get his shot to show his stuff in the offseason as Green and Poop are out. Strange things happen in the NFL.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ESPN.com estimates Najeh Davenport is a month away from testing his broken right ankle.Samkon Gado will take snaps with the first team in May mini-camps. Davenport's style appears to fit Green Bay's new offense well and he'll be healthy faster than Ahman Green. He's someone to watch closely this summer. May. 4 - 1:05 pm et

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What's the word on Green Bay's new offense, Traders2001?
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They have zero defense , so they need to control the clock and the game ( pound the ball ) run 30 to 40 times a game , so you need a RB like Davenpoop.

 

[Biabreakable]

From what I am reading this: http://www.summithealthcenter.com/educatio.../quadriceps.htm is the only thing keeping Green from being the starter in Green Bay this year.

 

[Big Score]

I think most of you guys are overrating Gado a lot .

He gained 35% of his yards against DETROIT ( they were not even showing up anymore when he played them )

He was very very ordinary against the other teams he played . 

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+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  8  cin  |    1     8  |     0  |  0 ||  9  pit  |   26    62  |     9  |  1 || 10  atl  |   25   103  |     5  |  3 || 11  min  |   10     7  |    30  |  0 || 12  phi  |   26   111  |    11  |  1 || 13  chi  |   20    75  |    12  |  1 || 14  det  |   29   171  |     9  |  1 || 15  bal  |    6    45  |     1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  143   582  |    77  |  7 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love it when guys play fast and loose with the facts. I watched each game he played and he looked good against PIT, ATL, PHI, CHI and DET. Gado blew the MIN game and was injured against BALT. 5-1-1 is not bad for an undrafted FA. The fumbling was/is an issue, but you never know. He played hard and seemed to make the most of his opportunity. I would not dismiss his chances to be a factor in the Greeen Bay RB situation. He will get his shot to show his stuff in the offseason as Green and Poop are out. Strange things happen in the NFL.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ESPN.com estimates Najeh Davenport is a month away from testing his broken right ankle.Samkon Gado will take snaps with the first team in May mini-camps. Davenport's style appears to fit Green Bay's new offense well and he'll be healthy faster than Ahman Green. He's someone to watch closely this summer. May. 4 - 1:05 pm et

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What's the word on Green Bay's new offense, Traders2001?
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They have zero defense , so they need to control the clock and the game ( pound the ball ) run 30 to 40 times a game , so you need a RB like Davenpoop.
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Are you just making stuff up as you go along, Traders2001? Geen Bay's D wasn't that bad pre AJ Hawk, Woodson et al.

Have you actually heard anything about a new offense McCarthy is installing?

Or is this just guess work on your part?

 

[Keysersoze666]

My Gawd,

This is the typical Green Bay thread during the off-season that drives me crazy. Silly, over-the-top statements that might as well be Democrats Vs. Republicans. All talk and no results.

GREEN:

No one knows. It's all speculation beyond any touch with reality. The guy went 5 years as the NUMBER ONE RB in yards from scrimmage in the NFL. He "could" play! He has Incredible Mileage during those 5 years, probably as many touches as anyone in the league BUT, he didn't get a lot of mileage early in Seattle so the argument can have 2 faces. One thing that bothers me is that he himself traces the injury all the way back to college, which makes me think it may never heal perfectly (not that I'm a doctor). Yes he had fumbling problems that did hurt the team YET he was also so good that it often was overlooked. He has also improved over the years on the fumbling front. He's tough, played through other injuries and has been a top talent, can he do it again? There is no answer yet but to me it has to be considered a medium to long-shot.

GADO:

He played for Liberty, for Christ's sake (literal or figurative) and mostly as a backup. He had NO serious coaching until the Kansas City practice squad and then the Packers. ANYONE who watched him play a few times in a row could easily see his burst, desire and good size. It's amazing that he did what he did being tossed into the fire the way he was. If you can't see his potential then you aren't much of a scout. Both AGreen and TBarber are examples of guys who fumbled LESS when it was emphasized by the coaches so it's NOT an incurable problem. He can't either be discounted or entirely counted on, DUH!

DAVENPORT: He's Mr. What-If. Played great in spurts but that's the best you can say about him. You can extrapolate his Best and his Worst and he can seem Great or Worthless. Any team would be silly to "depend" on him as the man. That doesn't mean he CAN'T do it, it simply means it would be the first time if he did manage to do it.

Big Score & FlaVVed:

You guys crack me up. FlaVVed, the fumbling HAS been an issue and denying it does NOT make it go away. Big Score, the Green for Vinson trade was a GREAT deal in NFL history, Alexander had nothing to do with that transaction, bringing that up as an argument is silly. You guys need a Death-Match cage that would leave this thread alone.

Traders2001:

You may wanna rethink your WHOLE evaluation of the situation. The Packers defense was not as bad as your assumptions, that's for sure. They finished 7th in yards given up (top 3rd) and 20th in Points given up (2nd 3rd, albeit at the bottom). Your comments about the running game are preposterous. You said they need 30-40 rushing attempts per game. Let me introduce you to a concept called MATH. 30 carries a game = 480 for a season. 35 carries a game = 560 for a season. Since 1992, when Favre took over as the starting QB, the ONLY time the Packers ever even went over the 480 mark was in 2003 when Favre broke his thumb and Grren carried the load (season total of 507 rushing attempts). The next highest total was 465 in 1996 which is an average of 29 carries per game. Please go to JAIL, do not pass GO and do NOT post again about the Packers unless you think first.

Everyone, resume your duties.

Edited to ADD:

I forgot the change to the Zone-blocking scheme. All 3 backs (Green, Davenport and Gado) have the burst and style to excel in this system, in my silly humble opinion, that change favors no one.