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AJ Green Prob no 1 in Rookie Drafts but who is #2 (1 Viewer)

jacobo_moses

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Man this stupid Free Agency hold up messed up this years draft bad. Everyone is going nuts drafting QBs in the top 12 who should be drafted in round 2. What the heck.

So AJ Green is probably most peoples no 1 rookie pick. So who is the no 2 (thats what I have)

Julio Jones WR (He will be no 2 for the Falcons which is all good and well because he gets to go against lesser corners but he has to share TDs with Roddy,Turner, and Gonzo) Not exactly the situation I was hoping for. I mean great Football move for the Falcons but not so good for Fantasy. Not at least 5 yrs more when Roddy starts slowing down.

Mark Ingram RB (Crowded backfield with a Saints team that loves to Throw the ball. I mean granted I think they actually are in the middle of the league for the number of rushes. But their are a lot of RB's getting touches their.)

SO who can I take at no 2? I don't think Julio or Ingram are worth that pick. Anyone have an idea what WR or RB could land in the right situation and have value enough to be worth the no 2???

Thanks

My league is a NON PPR DYnasty where TD's are 6pts.

 
ONe could say this post might belong in the Assistant Coach because I kind of am asking who I should take at 2. But its debatable because I also want to know from a NFL team perspective with what players are left who could be worth the no 2 pick. Ryan Williams/LeShore or Torry Smith or Cobb. Just seeing what everyone thinks after Rnd 1.

 
Cincy will find a QB whether they take Dalton or Coepernick. Or get Kolb or Hasselback in their via FA or Trade. It will happen. I'm not worried about that.

 
If you're your ratings of the top 3 prospects change this much based solely on situation you are setting yourself up for failure. Situation changes quickly and often, talent doesn't.

 
Short term, I suspect Ingram is worth the most of the 3. But these guys could be taken in any order and it wouldn't be "wrong".

 
If you don't take Julio or Ingram you need some real help.

Ingram isn't going into a crowded backfield to share the load with Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas. He's going to steal their jobs.

Julio is in a nice spot for instant stats. Not sure how this will play out exactly but there's no way anyone except these three should be chosen in the top 3 of any draft, unless it is super-running back heavy...in which case Ingram is a 1.01 lock.

 
'shader said:
If you don't take Julio or Ingram you need some real help.Ingram isn't going into a crowded backfield to share the load with Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas. He's going to steal their jobs.Julio is in a nice spot for instant stats. Not sure how this will play out exactly but there's no way anyone except these three should be chosen in the top 3 of any draft, unless it is super-running back heavy...in which case Ingram is a 1.01 lock.
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Julio is going to a run team with an overrated QB and a super stud across from him. I'd prefer Green, who is also the more highly rated player.
 
'Sabertooth said:
'shader said:
If you don't take Julio or Ingram you need some real help.

Ingram isn't going into a crowded backfield to share the load with Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas. He's going to steal their jobs.

Julio is in a nice spot for instant stats. Not sure how this will play out exactly but there's no way anyone except these three should be chosen in the top 3 of any draft, unless it is super-running back heavy...in which case Ingram is a 1.01 lock.
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Julio is going to a run team with an overrated QB and a super stud across from him. I'd prefer Green, who is also the more highly rated player.
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Pretty sure he meant after Green, per the question in the tittle.
 
'Cassius said:
'Sabertooth said:
'shader said:
If you don't take Julio or Ingram you need some real help.

Ingram isn't going into a crowded backfield to share the load with Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas. He's going to steal their jobs.

Julio is in a nice spot for instant stats. Not sure how this will play out exactly but there's no way anyone except these three should be chosen in the top 3 of any draft, unless it is super-running back heavy...in which case Ingram is a 1.01 lock.
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Julio is going to a run team with an overrated QB and a super stud across from him. I'd prefer Green, who is also the more highly rated player.
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Pretty sure he meant after Green, per the question in the tittle.
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'Spike said:
In non-PPR leagues, I don't see it as a slam-dunk that Green goes before Ingram.Not at all.
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The title of this thread surprised me. I feel it should be "Mark Ingram Prob no 1 in Rookie Drafts but who is #2?"I don't think it's a sure thing that Green is over Jones either. Jones has the better situation than Green.
 
'Sabertooth said:
'shader said:
If you don't take Julio or Ingram you need some real help.

Ingram isn't going into a crowded backfield to share the load with Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas. He's going to steal their jobs.

Julio is in a nice spot for instant stats. Not sure how this will play out exactly but there's no way anyone except these three should be chosen in the top 3 of any draft, unless it is super-running back heavy...in which case Ingram is a 1.01 lock.
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Julio is going to a run team with an overrated QB and a super stud across from him. I'd prefer Green, who is also the more highly rated player.
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Firmly disagree with both of those points.I love Ryan and I've always liked Julio better, though I recognize most people don't share that opinion of Julio.

 
I have 1.02 also and I'm waiting to see where LeShoure ends up. Thin at RB, so I'm weighing my short and longterm options on Ingram and LeShoure.

 
Not taking Julio because of Turner and Gonzalez is reallllly short sighted for dynasty leagues. Atlanta will be a more wide open passing team now. They won't run as much. Turner cannot continue to have a huge workload, and likely has a limited window left. Gonzalez has 1 more year left, and has slowed down a lot. This pick is a huge upgrade for Ryan's dynasty value. Plenty of teams can support two top 20 dynasty WRs.

 
As a Bengals fan, I figure they sign Green to his rookie contract somewhere around August 25 (assuming the whole anyone can sign a player thing is done). The kid loses a camp and stays behind Simpson, Caldwell, and Shipley this year. Go forward a couple years and the impact is there, but I think the inevitable Mikey Brown inspired hold-out has to be factored in.

-QG

 
Jones just seems the Bust to me, he drops way too many easy catches, has a UNBELIEVABLE combine, then goes to a great team... The drops scare me to much even with the great situation.

I go Green, Ingram, Jones PPR & NONPPR

 
'Time Kibitzer said:
If you're your ratings of the top 3 prospects change this much based solely on situation you are setting yourself up for failure. Situation changes quickly and often, talent doesn't.
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I think that's one of the most dangerous perspectives I have read.Opportunity for ff is >50% of the equation. you constantly see all world consensus guys like Spiller being mediocre somewhere while you watch a guy that is clearly less talented shine in the GOOD opportunity (brandon lloyd maybe?).then you see guys that are highly touted go to REALLY bad situations and NEVER seem to get over it (David Carr/Joey Harrington, Alex Smith) its easy to argue against what i say because you can use hindsight. You can say "Carr was not really talented because..." and i'm not trying to split hairs with those particular players..But what I'm saying is that the two really DO go together and even great talent can be a wasted career if players go to the wrong spot.Now, there are some iconic, super talented players that make it work regardless but there are not many people in the Peyton manning class where a player goes somewhere terrible, struggles early, but then has a LONG string of success. Even in the Manning example, the colts did a great job in protecting Manning and not getting him killed early like carr and harrington did.
 
'Shutout said:
'Time Kibitzer said:
If you're your ratings of the top 3 prospects change this much based solely on situation you are setting yourself up for failure. Situation changes quickly and often, talent doesn't.
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I think that's one of the most dangerous perspectives I have read.Opportunity for ff is >50% of the equation. you constantly see all world consensus guys like Spiller being mediocre somewhere while you watch a guy that is clearly less talented shine in the GOOD opportunity (brandon lloyd maybe?).then you see guys that are highly touted go to REALLY bad situations and NEVER seem to get over it (David Carr/Joey Harrington, Alex Smith) its easy to argue against what i say because you can use hindsight. You can say "Carr was not really talented because..." and i'm not trying to split hairs with those particular players..But what I'm saying is that the two really DO go together and even great talent can be a wasted career if players go to the wrong spot.Now, there are some iconic, super talented players that make it work regardless but there are not many people in the Peyton manning class where a player goes somewhere terrible, struggles early, but then has a LONG string of success. Even in the Manning example, the colts did a great job in protecting Manning and not getting him killed early like carr and harrington did.
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Without using hindsight, I will argue against what you say simply by saying don't draft QBs in the first round of a fantasy draft. QBs usually take years before they even become average fantasy producers, and the bust rate is very high. So by avoiding QBs in the first unless you personally feel 100% confident in their skills, you'll save yourself a lot of hassle. As for your Spiller comment, some of us never liked his talent in the first place. He's a guy who got a lot of hype because he's an excellent kick returner, his running skills alone aren't worth a 1st round pick, so because of that I avoided him in all drafts. So no matter where he ended up, I wasn't going to spend a top 5 rookie pick to get him, which was what his ADP was. Having said that, it's only been 1 year so maybe he'll get a better opportunity this year, but even if he does, I don't think he'll be successful as a fantasy RB simply because I don't like his talent.
 
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