Alexander to be cut by Seahawks (1 Viewer)

[hitman2]

is SA going to be this year's Ahman Green?

I think SA will be this year's SA.

 

[mdog1967]

He's was the softest elite back I have ever seen.

I have been saying for a few years, once his speed is gone, he's through.

I agree with you. SA was a fantasy stud for one year and good fantasy back for several. He was never a great NFL RB IMHO. I viewed him as rather fem for an NFL player. Too limited and unable to catch very well out of the backfield. Dude always showed up on Monday night, but I always passed on him in drafts.

He ranked:

4th in 2001
5th in 2002
6th in 2003
1st in 2004
1st in 2005Not only was he a stud for five consecutive years, his WORST season over that span was 1,400 yards and 16 TDs. The guy had 16 or more TDs in five straight seasons. He was a fantasy BEAST.

He also caught 145 passes from 2001 to 2003, he was an excellent receiver when used that way.

And last but certainly not least, the guy has 12 receiving TDs in his career. Care to guess how many other current RBs have that many? Westbrook, Dunn, Ahman Green and Tomlinson.

 

[cacksman]

He's was the softest elite back I have ever seen.

I have been saying for a few years, once his speed is gone, he's through.

I agree with you. SA was a fantasy stud for one year and good fantasy back for several. He was never a great NFL RB IMHO. I viewed him as rather fem for an NFL player. Too limited and unable to catch very well out of the backfield. Dude always showed up on Monday night, but I always passed on him in drafts.

He ranked:

4th in 2001
5th in 2002
6th in 2003
1st in 2004
1st in 2005Not only was he a stud for five consecutive years, his WORST season over that span was 1,400 yards and 16 TDs. The guy had 16 or more TDs in five straight seasons. He was a fantasy BEAST.

He also caught 145 passes from 2001 to 2003, he was an excellent receiver when used that way.

And last but certainly not least, the guy has 12 receiving TDs in his career. Care to guess how many other current RBs have that many? Westbrook, Dunn, Ahman Green and Tomlinson.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

He's was the softest elite back I have ever seen.

I have been saying for a few years, once his speed is gone, he's through.

I agree with you. SA was a fantasy stud for one year and good fantasy back for several. He was never a great NFL RB IMHO. I viewed him as rather fem for an NFL player. Too limited and unable to catch very well out of the backfield. Dude always showed up on Monday night, but I always passed on him in drafts.

He ranked:

4th in 2001
5th in 2002
6th in 2003
1st in 2004
1st in 2005Not only was he a stud for five consecutive years, his WORST season over that span was 1,400 yards and 16 TDs. The guy had 16 or more TDs in five straight seasons. He was a fantasy BEAST.

He also caught 145 passes from 2001 to 2003, he was an excellent receiver when used that way.

And last but certainly not least, the guy has 12 receiving TDs in his career. Care to guess how many other current RBs have that many? Westbrook, Dunn, Ahman Green and Tomlinson.

 

[JohnnyU]

By Vinnie Iyer - SportingNews

Shaun Alexander will struggle to find ‘08 jobBy Vinnie Iyer - SportingNews 2 hours, 37 minutes ago The shelf life for an NFL feature back is shorter than ever—as Shaun Alexander is about to learn. He is about to be out of work and will struggle to find a job in 2008.Just fewer than three full years ago, Alexander rushed for 1,880 yards, scored 28 touchdowns and was named NFL MVP in leading the Seattle Seahawks to Super Bowl 40. Now, Alexander’s release is a mere formality.The Seahawks are set in the backfield with newcomers Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett. Alexander’s release is being delayed by the fact he still is battling a wrist injury and the Seahawks have some time; the team needs only to cut him by the June 1 deadline to avoid taking his $6.9 million salary-cap hit for ‘08.Where does this leave Alexander? Well, he turns 31 on Aug. 30, and it could be tough to find an NFL home if the Seahawks wait until after a running back-rich draft to release him.Alexander’s career has followed a recent trend for feature backs: carry a heavy load for a few productive seasons and then hit the wall around the age of 30. It happened not too long ago with the Tennessee Titans’ Eddie George, and it happened last year with Alexander and the Kansas City Chiefs’ Larry Johnson (a bit prematurely). Up next is the Arizona Cardinals’ Edgerrin James, who turns 30 on Aug. 1.Not to worry you San Diego Chargers fans quite yet, but LaDainian Tomlinson is coming off a knee injury, has averaged 403 touches over his seven NFL seasons and turns 30 in June 2009.I think the days of having one true workhouse back are coming to an end, and in this copycat league, it’s important to note that the last three Super Bowl champs—the New York Giants (Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs), Indianapolis Colts (Dominic Rhodes, Joseph Addai) and Pittsburgh Steelers (Willie Parker, Jerome Bettis)—split the load instead of having one feature back.It makes sense to use a two-back system—such as a big bruiser and a diminutive dasher—and use their varied skills instead of relying on just one back to take the requisite pounding and perform multiple roles at a high level.Alexander is a deliberate cutback runner whose impact grows with each carry, and then you see him reel off big runs in the second half of games. He has been a prolific scorer, but it’s hard to think of him as a goal-line hammer. As a receiver, he doesn’t offer much despite playing in Mike Holmgren’s version of the short pass-happy West Coast offense.With his age, the wear on his knees, the past foot injury and the current wrist woe, Alexander no longer should be viewed as a feature back.Alexander figures to be a complementary backup in ‘08. If he goes to the right team, he could enjoy a bit of a renaissance—a la Corey Dillon with the ‘04 New England Patriots soon after turning 30.For teams looking for a home-run back, there are at least a half-dozen options in the draft who are better than the free-agent Alexander. The same goes for a team in pursuit of a pure power back.Alexander isn’t a home-run guy and isn’t a power back. He fits somewhere in between, so he will struggle to find the right fit in what’s quickly becoming a two-back league.

 

[Raider Nation]

Shaun Alexander will struggle to find '08 jobBy Vinnie Iyer - SportingNews

If Vinny Iyer's "real football" predictions are as bad as his fantasy predictions, SA will have a new team by noon tomorrow.

 

[JohnnyU]

Shaun Alexander will struggle to find '08 jobBy Vinnie Iyer - SportingNews

If Vinny Iyer's "real football" predictions are as bad as his fantasy predictions, SA will have a new team by noon tomorrow.

I hope you're right. I have SA in one league.

 

[mad sweeney]

you should thank walter jones and hutchinson for those titles, not SA

Give him a some credit. In 04 and 05 he dug deep, playing two contract years in a row. He did all the little things right, he ran hard and got short yardage conversions, and he had a nose for the end zone that few others displayed. Hutch and Jones (along with Tobeck, Gray and STRONG) loomed large in his success but he actually brought an A game for those two years that hasn't been apparent before or since. Without a dominating line his non-contract year self was pretty poor, but he impressed me those two years and it made me mad to see that drive go away once he got paid.

 

[Franknbeans]

you should thank walter jones and hutchinson for those titles, not SA

Funny, I don't remember drafting them

 

[Jason Wood]

I know Vinnie is paid to write opinion pieces, but what did he say of any substance? Alexander WILL find a job and he won't have trouble doing so. Whether the job is one that will allow Alexander to be a relevant fantasy football option is another issue entirely.

 

[JohnnyU]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

 

[Jason Wood]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

He's injured right now; the team can't release him until they come to terms on an injury settlement or he's healthy. And since Alexander knows he's going to be cut, I'm sure HE has no interest in being released until he's healthy and can work out for teams.

 

[JohnnyU]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

He's injured right now; the team can't release him until they come to terms on an injury settlement or he's healthy. And since Alexander knows he's going to be cut, I'm sure HE has no interest in being released until he's healthy and can work out for teams.

How much of his contract was guaranteed? I'm not sure the injury settlement is that important to SA if he's already paid. Even though he can't work out for teams now, I bet there would be teams that would sign him without the workout. It's not like it's his knee that's the problem. It seems to me that getting cut now is more beneficial to SA than waiting until later, especially after the draft. Of course all bets are off if he intends to take his settlement and retire.

 

[Jason Wood]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

He's injured right now; the team can't release him until they come to terms on an injury settlement or he's healthy. And since Alexander knows he's going to be cut, I'm sure HE has no interest in being released until he's healthy and can work out for teams.

How much of his contract was guaranteed? I'm not sure the injury settlement is that important to SA if he's already paid. Even though he can't work out for teams now, I bet there would be teams that would sign him without the workout. It's not like it's his knee that's the problem. It seems to me that getting cut now is more beneficial to SA than waiting until later, especially after the draft. Of course all bets are off if he intends to take his settlement and retire.

I'm not sure teams can cut an injured player without an injury settlement, can they? I recall when Jerome Bettis admitted to the world he lied about being injured so the Steelers wouldn't cut him; because he knew the team was likely going to give him his walking papers.At the end of the day though, it's pretty clear Alexander didn't think he was in danger until the Julius Jones signing. The fact his agent was in the GM's office the next day to "have a conversation" points to that. Since he now knows the deal, we may in fact see him get released very soon if SA determines that's his best course of action.

 

[JohnnyU]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

He's injured right now; the team can't release him until they come to terms on an injury settlement or he's healthy. And since Alexander knows he's going to be cut, I'm sure HE has no interest in being released until he's healthy and can work out for teams.

How much of his contract was guaranteed? I'm not sure the injury settlement is that important to SA if he's already paid. Even though he can't work out for teams now, I bet there would be teams that would sign him without the workout. It's not like it's his knee that's the problem. It seems to me that getting cut now is more beneficial to SA than waiting until later, especially after the draft. Of course all bets are off if he intends to take his settlement and retire.

I'm not sure teams can cut an injured player without an injury settlement, can they? I recall when Jerome Bettis admitted to the world he lied about being injured so the Steelers wouldn't cut him; because he knew the team was likely going to give him his walking papers.At the end of the day though, it's pretty clear Alexander didn't think he was in danger until the Julius Jones signing. The fact his agent was in the GM's office the next day to "have a conversation" points to that. Since he now knows the deal, we may in fact see him get released very soon if SA determines that's his best course of action.

I don't know the answer to that, but you would think that if SA wanted to be released, he could waive any injury settlement.

 

[North]

30 posts and noone mentioned Chicago? I think he would be able to push Benson and compete for the starting job.

He could beat out Benson if he was in a wheel chair. Even though he is getting old SA is a better back than Benson. I think Houston, Chicago, Carolina all make sense if they can get him to renegotiate his contract. I think he still has something left in a limited role.

 

[yellowdog]

30 posts and noone mentioned Chicago? I think he would be able to push Benson and compete for the starting job.

He could beat out Benson if he was in a wheel chair. Even though he is getting old SA is a better back than Benson. I think Houston, Chicago, Carolina all make sense if they can get him to renegotiate his contract. I think he still has something left in a limited role.

When he's released, he won't have a contract to renegotiate.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

He's injured right now; the team can't release him until they come to terms on an injury settlement or he's healthy. And since Alexander knows he's going to be cut, I'm sure HE has no interest in being released until he's healthy and can work out for teams.

Why not sign an injury settlement for a $1 and allow you to hit the open market before the draft starts. What value does being on a team that will release you have? Other than using their facilities, which I am sure has its pros, but is working out with fellow players knowing you are not part of the team really an environment you want to be in?

 

[Bull Dozier]

I can't believe SA hasn't requested to be released already. His chances of landing somewhere decent goes down even further after the draft.

He's injured right now; the team can't release him until they come to terms on an injury settlement or he's healthy. And since Alexander knows he's going to be cut, I'm sure HE has no interest in being released until he's healthy and can work out for teams.

Why not sign an injury settlement for a $1 and allow you to hit the open market before the draft starts. What value does being on a team that will release you have? Other than using their facilities, which I am sure has its pros, but is working out with fellow players knowing you are not part of the team really an environment you want to be in?

Does a player have to pass a physical to sign a contract? I know they have to pass a physical to get traded. Maybe that is a sticking point. Maybe teams won't sign him until he can prove he's healthy. I think there's a risk he agree to take nothing to move out, but still can't sign a decent contract before the draft.

 

[simsarge]

Maybe the Hawks want to keep him. Albiet at a more economical price than $6M. He knows the team, the system, the coach (Current and future) and maybe they've seen enough (more than we have certainly) of him to warrant taking a flyer on. He may not be the SA circa a couple years ago, but even SA at 75% is better than a lot of guys. I know squat about the Seahawks cap situation and thier team needs, so my thoughts are based on SA as a stand alone option.

 

[el centro]

Who wants Shaun Alexander on their team?

If he's getting pushed aside for the likes of Julius I dont know where he could land to get a starting job.

A lot of it has to do with money and he's not getting pushed aside by JJ since they are almost certain to draft a RB early now.

They signed Duckett and JJ to draft a RB early? They are tying up about 4-5mil per year in cap space with those two's contracts...

Make that $6.5 million in `08 (5.5 - JJ / 1.0 TJ) PLUS whatever they're paying MO!

 

[el centro]

The Lions have Tatum Bell and an injured Kevin Jones in their backfield.

They also have Millen running the show. Millen probably sees Alexander as a stud still because, well....he's Matt Millen.

Not any more...