Almost half the NFL has terrible QB situations (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

When you look around the NFL there are lots of teams that have a very fuzzy picture when it comes to QBs. In the WSL they are drafting for next year already and honestly there are so many teams with murky situations I thought it might be fun to discuss some of them. I’ll start in the AFC and work my way around.

AFC

East

Miami: On the surface you have to assume Chad Henne is the QB in 2011. The over optimist looks at this situation and will say there is a new OC and maybe in 2011 with some upgrades around him Henne can be a surprise. As a Miami fan myself I think the Dolphins need a complete overhaul at RB which they likely will do. They must establish the run if Henne is to have any success in play action. He had more success in 2009 with play action than he did in 2010. Case in point. I’m not sure I would be comfortable with Henne on my roster even a QB2 so I would avoid it if I could. The odds of him being a top15 QB in 2011 I think are less than 15-20% right now. Will Miami bring in another QB? I would like to see someone brought in to compete with Chad including a guy like Vince Young.

Buffalo: Ryan Fitzpatrick IMO is going to be the QB in 2011. No big expectations for the Bills right now so I don’t see the HC pushing to save his job, he’s just happy to have one right now. Not taking anything away from Fitz, he's a solid QB2, just wouldn't want to get too comfortable with him on my roster.

North

Cincinnati: There is talk about Palmer leaving but if that happens then you can just pencil in Cinci for 2-4 wins now which I know is about what they did last year but the Bengals went from the playoffs to almost dead last in the league and they have a lot of fixing to do on defense which unfortunately was what they did so well in during 2009. I would say about 60% or better that Palmer is under center come August.

Cleveland: Colt McCoy? I know the Browns fans will have you believe he is the future and maybe he is but in terms of ff in 2011, do you really want this guy on your roster? Are you planning to win or fail? Some of this thread isn’t just about who will be the starter but also guys/teams you want no part of right now.

South

Tennessee: Will Young really be shown the door? Kerry Collins is ancient and should be retiring. That guy has made a nice living as a so so QB in the NFL. He actually started 2 NFC Championships and a Super Bowl.

Jacksonville: I assume Garrard but if you have different ideas chime in. He is the most avg QB on the planet but always has a few games during the year where you think this guy could be a decent starter in FF…then he lays an egg and you want to cut him on Monday.

West

Denver: Orton or Tebow? Does it matter? Do you envision Denver winning a lot of games in 2011? Do you think they will have a wide open offense ever with John Fox calling the shots? How do you go 2-14 and then get an immediate job offer?

Oakland: Campbell? Gradkowski? Do you want either really? I like some of the pieces on offense though. OL is getting much better especially at the Tackle positions.

NFC

East

Washington: Rex Grossman…really? McNabb is all but done or at least we all assume.

North

Minnesota: It’s assumed they go and get someone else but maybe they start building with Joe Webb…OK I couldn’t keep a straight face when I wrote that. What does this do to Rice and Harvin? Different thread I guess.

Detroit: Matt Stafford…at this stage you have to say he is injury prone. He is starting to turn into Chad Pennington with a stronger arm. They have to take a good hard look at this because they are getting better in other spots and maybe they need to get into the McNabb sweepstakes and take a shot at getting into the playoffs if things don’t pan out with Stafford. You can’t just say “We paid him a lot of money”…too much talent starting to pile up there and Schwartz is going into season 3.



South

Carolina: Your guess is as good as mine. Do they start whatever rookie they take in the draft? Clausen continue to develop? Yuck!





West

Seattle: Will they bring back Hass? If he is let go I am sure a team will sing him quickly. Can Whitehurst emerge?

Arizona: They have to clean house here and look for a veteran or else they are going to absolutely waste the best years and talent at the WR spot in the game with Fitzgerald. Don’t think for a second I don’t respect that guy. 90 receptions this year with who at QB?

San Fran: What do you think Harbaugh will do? Do they trot out Alex Smith again?

Your thoughts, opinions, and comments are most welcome.

Thanks,

MOP

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I guess this is why Matt Flynn & Kevin Kolb are talked about as trade targets. This QB Class is not considered great to begin with and there are plenty of openings. Good thread, MOP. What strikes me is the fact that there will be a lot of poor QB play again this year in 2011 (assuming there is a season). This QB Rookie class does not have many who should start their first year like what happened in 2010. That was an outlier.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers.

The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

 

[azgroover]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers. The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

Anything short of 16 starts (or 18, whatever the case may be) and you can call Stafford injury prone next year. I don't get why people bring up how he wasn't injured in college. Not being injured in college has nothing to do with being injured often as a pro. NFL history is littered with guys who had the same storyline.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers. The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

Anything short of 16 starts (or 18, whatever the case may be) and you can call Stafford injury prone next year. I don't get why people bring up how he wasn't injured in college. Not being injured in college has nothing to do with being injured often as a pro. NFL history is littered with guys who had the same storyline.

He was a 3 year SEC starter and played his junior year behind a really young line. He took a lot of hits in college. I think it is a reasonable point to bring into the debate. Yes, the NFL is bigger and faster, but he was playing against NFL players and taking NFL type hits. He wasn't a system QB or a guy in an inferior conference.

 

[azgroover]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers. The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

Anything short of 16 starts (or 18, whatever the case may be) and you can call Stafford injury prone next year. I don't get why people bring up how he wasn't injured in college. Not being injured in college has nothing to do with being injured often as a pro. NFL history is littered with guys who had the same storyline.

He was a 3 year SEC starter and played his junior year behind a really young line. He took a lot of hits in college. I think it is a reasonable point to bring into the debate. Yes, the NFL is bigger and faster, but he was playing against NFL players and taking NFL type hits. He wasn't a system QB or a guy in an inferior conference.

Well, then let's put him in Canton. After all, he had a helluva college career against good talent.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers. The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

Anything short of 16 starts (or 18, whatever the case may be) and you can call Stafford injury prone next year. I don't get why people bring up how he wasn't injured in college. Not being injured in college has nothing to do with being injured often as a pro. NFL history is littered with guys who had the same storyline.

He was a 3 year SEC starter and played his junior year behind a really young line. He took a lot of hits in college. I think it is a reasonable point to bring into the debate. Yes, the NFL is bigger and faster, but he was playing against NFL players and taking NFL type hits. He wasn't a system QB or a guy in an inferior conference.

Well, then let's put him in Canton. After all, he had a helluva college career against good talent.

Jeez, talk about an over reaction. All he's saying is that the guy was durable in college. It's a valid point. You seem like the one with an agenda here.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers. The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

Anything short of 16 starts (or 18, whatever the case may be) and you can call Stafford injury prone next year. I don't get why people bring up how he wasn't injured in college. Not being injured in college has nothing to do with being injured often as a pro. NFL history is littered with guys who had the same storyline.

He was a 3 year SEC starter and played his junior year behind a really young line. He took a lot of hits in college. I think it is a reasonable point to bring into the debate. Yes, the NFL is bigger and faster, but he was playing against NFL players and taking NFL type hits. He wasn't a system QB or a guy in an inferior conference.

Well, then let's put him in Canton. After all, he had a helluva college career against good talent.

Jeez, talk about an over reaction. All he's saying is that the guy was durable in college. It's a valid point. You seem like the one with an agenda here.

surgery was the best thing for Stafford. Look at Bradfors alot of people said the same thing.Looks like once a shoulder is messed up it needs surgery or its never right.

 

[azgroover]

I don't think the Lions fit in a thread about terrible QBs. Stafford is extremely talented and seemed to really be shining when healthy last season. Stafford was never hurt in college and I don't think we can call him injury prone yet. Shaun Hill is one of the best backup QBs in the league. His numbers were quite strong last year: 2,600 yards 61% completion 16 TDs 12 ints in 10 games. You put that over a full season and we are looking at near Pro Bowl numbers. The 3 Lions QBs this year combined for 4100 yards 26 TD 16 ints

Anything short of 16 starts (or 18, whatever the case may be) and you can call Stafford injury prone next year. I don't get why people bring up how he wasn't injured in college. Not being injured in college has nothing to do with being injured often as a pro. NFL history is littered with guys who had the same storyline.

He was a 3 year SEC starter and played his junior year behind a really young line. He took a lot of hits in college. I think it is a reasonable point to bring into the debate. Yes, the NFL is bigger and faster, but he was playing against NFL players and taking NFL type hits. He wasn't a system QB or a guy in an inferior conference.

Well, then let's put him in Canton. After all, he had a helluva college career against good talent.

Jeez, talk about an over reaction. All he's saying is that the guy was durable in college. It's a valid point. You seem like the one with an agenda here.

Sure Stafford was durable in college. Point is, he's in the NFL now and hasn't been durable thus far. One more injury plagued season and it's a trend rather than an anomaly.

 

[cr8f]

Though not mentioned I think Freeman will be a bargain next year.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

How do you go 2-14 and then get an immediate job offer?

When your front office has absolutely no idea what they're doing, but you do. I agree that Denver will run the ball more with Fox in control, though.

 

[Zdravko]

I’d take Stafford out of this. Injury prone or not, it will be 2-3 more years before the Lions even consider replacing him. Jason Campbell will be the Raiders starter next season, ask Al Davis. Colt McCoy is also a lock to open for Cleveland, ask Mike Holmgren. Denver will go with Tebow – spent the first-rounder, now have to give him a shot for at least one season, ask the local fans.

That also makes Kyle Orton a wonderful, cheap trade bait and he will be opening as starter somewhere.

A few of the listed teams will draft a rookie that they see as the long-term answer and will need someone to keep the spot warm. Most likely situations for that are Buffalo with Fitzpatrick and Jacksonville with Gerrard. Also, if you ask me, no way Seattle passes on the local hero if he fall to the second, so Hassleback will be kept as a tutor.

Miami needs a star at QB – the city and the owner just don’t have the stomach for mediocrity. Unless the new OC promises to convert Henne into a gunslinger, he won’t be tolerated in South Florida, so expect the Dolphins to go all in for a high-profile guy. Kolb, McNabb, maybe Carson?

I doubt the Vikings have the mindset to wait right now, not with all that talent on offense. So I believe they will go after McNabb, as well.

Green Bay would do whatever they can to keep Matt Flynn. You can’t win consistently in this league if your QB runs a lot and you don’t have adequate backup. The Eagles, however, won’t be that smart and will let Kolb go.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I think it would be in several teams best interest to take a strong look at Dennis Dixon and his availability.

I don't want to see him leave Pittsburgh, but your reserves are often far more valuable to someone else as a starter.

 

[Epic Problem]

I think it would be in several teams best interest to take a strong look at Dennis Dixon and his availability. I don't want to see him leave Pittsburgh, but your reserves are often far more valuable to someone else as a starter.

You bring up Dennis Dixon and I have to bring up the fact that there is an argument for Steelers being on this list.Big Ben might be looking like a redemption story right now, but let's not forget that this guy is one f-up away from sitting a half year if not longer. And if / when that happens, he's probably getting run right out of Pittsburgh.Not sure if you want to qualify that as "terrrbile" or not, but it sure isn't ideal.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I think it would be in several teams best interest to take a strong look at Dennis Dixon and his availability.

I don't want to see him leave Pittsburgh, but your reserves are often far more valuable to someone else as a starter.

You bring up Dennis Dixon and I have to bring up the fact that there is an argument for Steelers being on this list.Big Ben might be looking like a redemption story right now, but let's not forget that this guy is one f-up away from sitting a half year if not longer. And if / when that happens, he's probably getting run right out of Pittsburgh.

Not sure if you want to qualify that as "terrrbile" or not, but it sure isn't ideal.

The Steeler QB situation, with Ben and Dennis is anything but "less then ideal", and should be nowhere near the "terrible' category that is this thread.

 

[Biabreakable]

Minnesota: It’s assumed they go and get someone else but maybe they start building with Joe Webb…OK I couldn’t keep a straight face when I wrote that. What does this do to Rice and Harvin? Different thread I guess.

Your thoughts, opinions, and comments are most welcome.

Thanks,

MOP

I wouldn't be so quick to laugh at Joe Webb. At least he isn't a 2nd round bust that the team has to start anyways because of no better option.

 

[DropKick]

Miami needs a star at QB – the city and the owner just don’t have the stomach for mediocrity. Unless the new OC promises to convert Henne into a gunslinger, he won’t be tolerated in South Florida, so expect the Dolphins to go all in for a high-profile guy. Kolb, McNabb, maybe Carson?

Agree they need a star, not so sure they're unfamiliar with mediocrity.I think QB - and long term stability at the position - is more important and much more difficult to find than RB. I'm not thrilled by Henne or the rookie class. Mcnabb seems like a better fit in Minnesota - I don't want an aging QB for a short ride. I don't want Carson Palmer either; he looked "off" in the few Bengal games I saw this season. At this point, I don't know if it's Palmer or the Bengals. I could roll with Kolb. He is still largely unproven but has shown flashes. At least, he offers upside and a possible long term answer. Another option is Orton, I was surprised by his productivity in Denver. Orton might be "cheaper" than Kolb. Not so sure the Eagles don't put a premium on their backup given Vick's injury history.I could even stomach a 1-15 season to guarantee a high profile rookie. It's sad but sometimes you may have to take a step back to move forward.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Minnesota: It's assumed they go and get someone else but maybe they start building with Joe Webb…OK I couldn't keep a straight face when I wrote that. What does this do to Rice and Harvin? Different thread I guess.

Your thoughts, opinions, and comments are most welcome.

Thanks,

MOP

I wouldn't be so quick to laugh at Joe Webb. At least he isn't a 2nd round bust that the team has to start anyways because of no better option.

You would want Webb on your 2011 starting roster? Kind of taking that personal aren't you Bia?

 

[Crippler]

Arizona. I still think Skelton is a good answer for them. And Fitz helps the young QB learn. Better to have a guy who you can depend on in the end. I dont see McNabb, Orton or Palmer all of a sudden leading this team to the promise land anyways and in a year or 2, the Cards are better off wtih Skelton and taking other positions in the draft to help other areas on this team instead.

 

[Grid71]

When you look around the NFL there are lots of teams that have a very fuzzy picture when it comes to QBs. In the WSL they are drafting for next year already and honestly there are so many teams with murky situations I thought it might be fun to discuss some of them. I’ll start in the AFC and work my way around.

AFC

East

Miami: On the surface you have to assume Chad Henne is the QB in 2011. The over optimist looks at this situation and will say there is a new OC and maybe in 2011 with some upgrades around him Henne can be a surprise. As a Miami fan myself I think the Dolphins need a complete overhaul at RB which they likely will do. They must establish the run if Henne is to have any success in play action. He had more success in 2009 with play action than he did in 2010. Case in point. I’m not sure I would be comfortable with Henne on my roster even a QB2 so I would avoid it if I could. The odds of him being a top15 QB in 2011 I think are less than 15-20% right now. Will Miami bring in another QB? I would like to see someone brought in to compete with Chad including a guy like Vince Young.

Buffalo: Ryan Fitzpatrick IMO is going to be the QB in 2011. No big expectations for the Bills right now so I don’t see the HC pushing to save his job, he’s just happy to have one right now. Not taking anything away from Fitz, he's a solid QB2, just wouldn't want to get too comfortable with him on my roster.

North

Cincinnati: There is talk about Palmer leaving but if that happens then you can just pencil in Cinci for 2-4 wins now which I know is about what they did last year but the Bengals went from the playoffs to almost dead last in the league and they have a lot of fixing to do on defense which unfortunately was what they did so well in during 2009. I would say about 60% or better that Palmer is under center come August.

Cleveland: Colt McCoy? I know the Browns fans will have you believe he is the future and maybe he is but in terms of ff in 2011, do you really want this guy on your roster? Are you planning to win or fail? Some of this thread isn’t just about who will be the starter but also guys/teams you want no part of right now.

South

Tennessee: Will Young really be shown the door? Kerry Collins is ancient and should be retiring. That guy has made a nice living as a so so QB in the NFL. He actually started 2 NFC Championships and a Super Bowl.

Jacksonville: I assume Garrard but if you have different ideas chime in. He is the most avg QB on the planet but always has a few games during the year where you think this guy could be a decent starter in FF…then he lays an egg and you want to cut him on Monday.

West

Denver: Orton or Tebow? Does it matter? Do you envision Denver winning a lot of games in 2011? Do you think they will have a wide open offense ever with John Fox calling the shots? How do you go 2-14 and then get an immediate job offer?

Oakland: Campbell? Gradkowski? Do you want either really? I like some of the pieces on offense though. OL is getting much better especially at the Tackle positions.

NFC

East

Washington: Rex Grossman…really? McNabb is all but done or at least we all assume.

North

Minnesota: It’s assumed they go and get someone else but maybe they start building with Joe Webb…OK I couldn’t keep a straight face when I wrote that. What does this do to Rice and Harvin? Different thread I guess.

Detroit: Matt Stafford…at this stage you have to say he is injury prone. He is starting to turn into Chad Pennington with a stronger arm. They have to take a good hard look at this because they are getting better in other spots and maybe they need to get into the McNabb sweepstakes and take a shot at getting into the playoffs if things don’t pan out with Stafford. You can’t just say “We paid him a lot of money”…too much talent starting to pile up there and Schwartz is going into season 3.



South

Carolina: Your guess is as good as mine. Do they start whatever rookie they take in the draft? Clausen continue to develop? Yuck!





West

Seattle: Will they bring back Hass? If he is let go I am sure a team will sing him quickly. Can Whitehurst emerge?

Arizona: They have to clean house here and look for a veteran or else they are going to absolutely waste the best years and talent at the WR spot in the game with Fitzgerald. Don’t think for a second I don’t respect that guy. 90 receptions this year with who at QB?

San Fran: What do you think Harbaugh will do? Do they trot out Alex Smith again?

Your thoughts, opinions, and comments are most welcome.

Thanks,

MOP

Great thread MOP. What we are missing are the options available for these teams. McNabb and VY (he s/b staying in TEN now correct?) or Favr...let's not go there.

Which franchise is most likely to make a big play for Kolb? <----This is the best case for any of these franchises* IMHO.

Are there any other backup QBs deserving of a shot as a starter? Someone already mentioned Dixon from PIT.

What teams are the best fit for QB draft prospects Gabbert, Kaepernick, Newton, Stanzi, and Locker?

*I respectfully disagree with listing Detroit here. Stafford has already started to lift the team from the depths and doesn't deserve to be listed with the Henne...Grossmans of the league. Bringing in another QB like McNabb would more likely create a rift in the locker room. I'd be shocked if Detroit made any big moves at QB this off season. They need to focus their attention in other areas. Defense anyone?

For Miami - I wouldn't be surprised to see them go after Cam Newton in the draft. Miami loves to run a gimmikie type of offense. Throw in the wild cat, mix things up while focusing on the run. With Cam, he can keep the opponent guessing as to where they are going with the football better than any other prospect out there. The big questions will be if Cam can stay healthy, read coverages and make the big throws when needed. If Miami thinks he will be able to do those 3 things, I'd be shocked to see him fall past the Dolphins on draft day.

 

[Biabreakable]

Minnesota: It's assumed they go and get someone else but maybe they start building with Joe Webb…OK I couldn't keep a straight face when I wrote that. What does this do to Rice and Harvin? Different thread I guess.

Your thoughts, opinions, and comments are most welcome.

Thanks,

MOP

I wouldn't be so quick to laugh at Joe Webb. At least he isn't a 2nd round bust that the team has to start anyways because of no better option.

You would want Webb on your 2011 starting roster? Kind of taking that personal aren't you Bia?

Nope just poking fun at Chad Henne. Frazier has made it very clear that the Vikings are looking for 2 more QBs this offseason in addition to Webb.

 

[RnR]

VY (he s/b staying in TEN now correct?)

No. He will be traded/released. Just because Fisher is gone doesn't change the fact that Vince quit on his teammates and coaches. He'll take his "woe is me" attitude somewhere else next season.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

So some folks are saying Stafford should not be in here. I understand why you feel that way but the fact is this guy has gotten hurt and sometimes it wasn't the big big hit that did him in. His SEC career matters little to me at this point. Sure, he can right the ship next season but anything short of 8-10 wins is going to be a major disappointment. Count me in on taking the under for Stafford next year.

And Shaun Hill??? Look at the Steelers and Packers this coming week, does Hill remind you of either of them? He is awkward at best when you watch him. He's efficient I will say that but I wouldn't be excited to have him start another 8 or 9 games next season. If this was happening in new England they would have gotten a replacement already, do you understand? Bad teams are always victims and I don't have the answer as to why but they simply are.

 

[ft_ball_fn]

Miami needs a star at QB – the city and the owner just don’t have the stomach for mediocrity. Unless the new OC promises to convert Henne into a gunslinger, he won’t be tolerated in South Florida, so expect the Dolphins to go all in for a high-profile guy. Kolb, McNabb, maybe Carson?

Agree they need a star, not so sure they're unfamiliar with mediocrity.I think QB - and long term stability at the position - is more important and much more difficult to find than RB. I'm not thrilled by Henne or the rookie class. Mcnabb seems like a better fit in Minnesota - I don't want an aging QB for a short ride. I don't want Carson Palmer either; he looked "off" in the few Bengal games I saw this season. At this point, I don't know if it's Palmer or the Bengals.

I could roll with Kolb. He is still largely unproven but has shown flashes. At least, he offers upside and a possible long term answer. Another option is Orton, I was surprised by his productivity in Denver. Orton might be "cheaper" than Kolb. Not so sure the Eagles don't put a premium on their backup given Vick's injury history.

I could even stomach a 1-15 season to guarantee a high profile rookie. It's sad but sometimes you may have to take a step back to move forward.

What about Orton? Not a gunslinger.. not a 'big name'.... but he was putting up HUGE numbers with DEN had NO running game around him... he was the only reason DEN was in games at all this season IMO... he posted sweet stats and in essence had NO WR's either.. He made a star out of Brandon Lloyd--who at best was a journeyman QB. Reunite him with Brandon Marshall (maybe pad Marshall's stats a bit too.. he's not a top 5 WR IMO with Henne at QB).

So some folks are saying Stafford should not be in here. I understand why you feel that way but the fact is this guy has gotten hurt and sometimes it wasn't the big big hit that did him in. His SEC career matters little to me at this point. Sure, he can right the ship next season but anything short of 8-10 wins is going to be a major disappointment. Count me in on taking the under for Stafford next year.

And Shaun Hill??? Look at the Steelers and Packers this coming week, does Hill remind you of either of them? He is awkward at best when you watch him. He's efficient I will say that but I wouldn't be excited to have him start another 8 or 9 games next season. If this was happening in new England they would have gotten a replacement already, do you understand? Bad teams are always victims and I don't have the answer as to why but they simply are.

It amazes me that people say Stafford is injury prone. Who was the last DET QB to last the entire season--all 16 games? No one's done it since 2007 (John Kitna). In 2008, 2009 and 2010 DET's 1st, 2nd and 3rd string QB's each missed games due to injuries. How many teams have been down to their 3rd string QB EACH of the last 3 seasons due to injury? DET's O line is horrible. I don't care about hits/sacks/hurries... just look at the injuries... 9 QB's hurt in 3 seasons. That's it.. forget the rest of the stats. It has nothing to do with Stafford or being fragile--it has to do with a horrible OL. When Stafford is upright and protected he's shown a ton of talent. I will agree--if DET doesn't adress the OL then they will most likely have a QB situation in 2011 as well (past performance does dictate future returns.)

 

[Crippler]

Miami needs a star at QB – the city and the owner just don’t have the stomach for mediocrity. Unless the new OC promises to convert Henne into a gunslinger, he won’t be tolerated in South Florida, so expect the Dolphins to go all in for a high-profile guy. Kolb, McNabb, maybe Carson?

I could even stomach a 1-15 season to guarantee a high profile rookie. It's sad but sometimes you may have to take a step back to move forward.

I want Luck before I take any of these retreads in McNabb, Young, Orton, or Kolb that IMO cannot lead you to the promise land.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

And Shaun Hill??? Look at the Steelers and Packers this coming week, does Hill remind you of either of them? He is awkward at best when you watch him.

Quality analysis. How many QB do remind you of Rodgers or Roethlisberger?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And Shaun Hill??? Look at the Steelers and Packers this coming week, does Hill remind you of either of them? He is awkward at best when you watch him.

Quality analysis. How many QB do remind you of Rodgers or Roethlisberger?

I stole it from Colin Cowherd so take it up with Bristol.What does your question mean anyways? Detroit drafted Stafford as a franchise QB. Correct me here but franchise implies the guy to lead you to the Super Bowl. Detroit fans are saying that Hill is a great back up, that's fine and dandy but he isn't going to lead you to the promised land. So going back to Stafford being injury prone...you getting this. Quality reading and interpretation on your part.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

And Shaun Hill??? Look at the Steelers and Packers this coming week, does Hill remind you of either of them? He is awkward at best when you watch him.

Quality analysis. How many QB do remind you of Rodgers or Roethlisberger?

I stole it from Colin Cowherd so take it up with Bristol.What does your question mean anyways? Detroit drafted Stafford as a franchise QB. Correct me here but franchise implies the guy to lead you to the Super Bowl. Detroit fans are saying that Hill is a great back up, that's fine and dandy but he isn't going to lead you to the promised land. So going back to Stafford being injury prone...you getting this. Quality reading and interpretation on your part.

What does my question mean? You're the one that asked if Shaun Hill reminded someone of the Packers or Steelers? Funny coming from the guy that called Stafford Chad Pennington with an arm.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What does my question mean? You're the one that asked if Shaun Hill reminded someone of the Packers or Steelers? Funny coming from the guy that called Stafford Chad Pennington with an arm.

With no one in front of him meanng he was QB1 on Day 1 he has started 13 games out of 32 possible starts. If that's not a trend towards being injury prone, not sure what is. Let's not call each other stupid which is what is happening here with different words. Why are you optimistic about Stafford?

 

[omahabrad]

I can't believe San Fran, Minny and Tenn. would go into the offseason with Carr, Webb and Rusty? as their only QB's signed to a contract. Their seasons will be hosed if there is a long lockout. Tenn could be forced to keep Young if things get too bad, they are having a hard time hiring asst coaches imagine how hard it's going to be to get a good FA QB.

 

[DocHolliday]

This is a great post.

There are actually 3 categories of QB play in my view:

Teams with great QBs: Pburgh, Indy, NE, etc.

Teams with OK QBsNo better option at the moment: Cleveland, Oakland, Buffalo, etc.

Teams in need of a QB upgrade: SF, Minn, Washington, etc.

A few situations can be debated but in my eyes, teams in the middle category such as Detroit, Oakland, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Buffalo have OK QBs with other more pressing needs.

Teams in the last category must address their QB situation during the draft or FA.

 

[grateful zed]

im just glad philly franchised vick.