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- Thread starter hellz_fireflies
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It would of saved us the embrassement of watching Robinson trying to tackle someone.Maybe its just me but I never could picture Lomu in the NFL. Maybe due to his running style.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I am sure the average guy in Liverpool has no idea who Peyton Manning or Michael Vick is, just like the average guy in Indianapolis or Atlanta has no idea of the name of any player on Liverpool's soccer team. Teams already complain when they have to play on a short week on the opposite coast. Just wait for their reaction when they find out they're playing an important matchup in Tokyo or Sydney.Bad idea.
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pizzatyme
Footballguy
Not to mention the first greedy owner to relocate their team out of the country! Holy crap, the fallout from this.It was bad enough when the Irsays moved the Colts to Indy, think of them going to Liverpool. I think it will dilute the interest of the US fan base. I mean how many of us watch the Tokyo Bowl live? How many would watch a Clev. vs. Balt. game at 3AM? Or any 2 teams for that matter?
msommer
Footballguy
Nope it wouldn't. If it is not a regular season game with starters playing full time you can kiss attendance and impact goodbye. This from a foreign NFL fan living outside of the US
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Hate foreigners much?
Good god folks, chill a bit.
If you don't like it, revoke your season tickets. If you don't want your tax money to go to the teams, then vote in legislatures that wont give it to them.
Stop all the whining.
Football is entertainment. Americans dont have dominion over it.
Good god folks, chill a bit.
If you don't like it, revoke your season tickets. If you don't want your tax money to go to the teams, then vote in legislatures that wont give it to them.
Stop all the whining.
Football is entertainment. Americans dont have dominion over it.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I hardly think its about hating foreigners and don't really see anyone in here using that mentality.Its about creating an unfair playing field for the 4 teams involved, especially the ones that are losing a home game in the deal.But you go ahead and keep making your assumptions as to why people are up in arms.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
Fella, this has nothing to do with hating foreigners. You said that not me. Revoking my season tickets, does nothing to prove the point. They could care less.You obviously don't have season tickets. Unless you are put into the situation, howz about you move along to something you have a right to gripe about.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
I don't mind this.
I know the negative effect it will have on teams, and it may not be fair to fans and players.
However, the NFL and their primetime games are now events.
We may still look at it as another game.
The NFL is marketing this as an event, and it receives the responses like it was an event from the viewing public.
I think it will be a good experience in general.
I look foward to it.
I know the negative effect it will have on teams, and it may not be fair to fans and players.
However, the NFL and their primetime games are now events.
We may still look at it as another game.
The NFL is marketing this as an event, and it receives the responses like it was an event from the viewing public.
I think it will be a good experience in general.
I look foward to it.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Your right, I dont have season tickets. I think they are a waste of money. You do, congratulations.I didnt know season ticket holders were the only ones who could have an opinion of how the team is run. I go to games occasionally, I buy merchandise, etc...It is one game every 16 years. Is it really that big of a deal? Maybe get a plane ticket and go see the team in the country they are playing in. Be a global season ticket holder. Show the world what true fans y'all are.1 game every 16 years. YawnFella, this has nothing to do with hating foreigners. You said that not me. Revoking my season tickets, does nothing to prove the point. They could care less.You obviously don't have season tickets. Unless you are put into the situation, howz about you move along to something you have a right to gripe about.
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trader jake
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I'm all for it...as long as it is preseason games. The NFL Europe idea tanked for many reasons. These reasons have clearly been forgotten by the owners.suck it up....its one home game in 16 years, and it is giving fans all over the world a chance to see a game live that they never have a chance of seeing.It is great for the game....bad for you for ONE F'ING SEASON! Stop being so selfish, and think of those around the world that will get to see the game they love LIVE!Exactly. And many of those same fans pay or have paid some type of seat license or state/county tax to refurbish/rebuild their home statium. Now millions of dollars are taken away from that region and given to some foreign city? It really is bull####.Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
Mudcrab
Footballguy
Let's not forget three time Pro Bowler, Darren Bennett.Definitely some foreign punters. Mat McBriar in Dallas and Ben Graham for the Jets are two Aussies playing currently. In fact, Graham played a decade in our major football code before switching to the gridiron.In the late 80's and early 90's Colin Scotts played as a LB for the Caridnals, I think, after a minor rugby career in Australia.And in the 60's a bloke by the name of Ridgwell, I think, was the Dallas punter after playing Aussie Rules for a few years.That's just the Aussies I know of so no doubt there's been others from around the world.They do now only they don't often play more than ST. I believe every team can file an exemption for one foreign player and have an added roster spot. I think only a handful of teams do this.The level of play from foreigners is not there yet but NFLE has improved it. Scott McCready is a fun guy to read about if you ever have time. He has more catches in NFLE history than anyone. Having played NFLE FF, I can tell ya he's "money" in PPR. 4-5 catch lock. He's in an NFL camp most summers and returns without a contract every year. Last team I recall was the Chiefs. He's slow and not the most muscular guy but I gotta tell ya, every time I see him play I think of Chrebet and countless others that got it done. I wish I could make a team put him in a real game. I'm just certain he'd get a key 3rd down or somesuch, he's ...well, obviously they disagree with me.I believe there is a chinese(from China) player in the NFL, no roster exemption but genuinely made a team. I think I read that in September. Their might be a foreign punter in the NFL now.American talent in NFLE seems to still need another year of development after NFLE. 2 years ago, Ruvell Martin was MVP and Rich Scanlon was defensive MVP. Ruvell's playing now, as you know. Scanlon can't beat out Kawika Mitchell but now the Chiefs are finding time for him, a sorta compliment to a quality backup. (Hurt lately thought on injury report) A back, Jonathan Smith, was awesome 2 years ago but wrecked his ankle. Titans paid him last year to keep tabs on him. He couldn't come back from it. This year's guy was Roger Robinson. Arizona was impressed with him but cut him. I don't really understand that but nonetheless I wouldn't be surprised if(added year mentioned above) next year his name pops up in the NFL. So the american talent in NFLE is getting better too and that's important for the foreigner's development.All in all I think we're a few years away but it's coming. I will absolutely welcome the "try hard to prove myself in america" attitude around some of these pamperred NFL stars. It'd inadvertently force an attitude adjustment or rededication to the game by some NFL players.It may be a while off but there will come a time when foreign players regularly fill NFL rosters.Hopefully the discovery that there is a world outside the US border won't upset too many.
how do you figure?
where's he from?Also, NFL has had it's share of "army brats" that were born in other countries and bounced around country to country. I guess due to the US Army, I consider them american regardless.
BoulderBob
Footballguy
USA football will catch on in Germany over the next 50 years...possibly Russia if the NFL plays their cards right.
Re losing home game thoughts-
Fans grumpy, owners aren't. I think 100k people fit in that mexican stadium and the team owners got a % of the ticket sales. In the US stadium, they have to pay staff and such from ticket revenue. I'm not sure if what they brought in was comparable or maybe they're just glad to have a week off and still get paid? Owners like it.
Also, NFL players get a cut from jersey sales. I remember reading how one punter joked the league sold 2 a year. One to his mother and father. After the mexico game, they sold 100. Maybe the soccer fans like the kickers+punters? Anyhow, there's an NFL player that was glad to go.
I think the NFL teams think of it as part vacation and part an honor to show the world what you do. That mexican game was probably the 2nd highest watched game behind the Supe. When are Arizona and San Fran gonna pull that off? Playing in Mexico definitely piqued the interest of people in other foreign countries.
I was reading recently about Montreal having an NFLE team when it was called something else AFL? Well this author felt that the CFL increased in popularity as the Canadians felt a loyalty to their game. Not sure if it's true but they don't have a team anymore. Interesting thought though. I suppose Canadians also figure if we want to bring the NFL fine but don't bring this subpar NFLE type league. Canada will be the hardest place for the NFL to place it's seeds. They have their own football league, yeah it's a bit different but .... Most other countries don't and instead welcome the idea as change.
Australia seems like the easiest country, must be the distance or lack of stadium? that stops the league. The more I read, they love the NFL to a high degree that surprises me.
Canada(guess on them), Japan, Germany, Italy, England, Australia all have highschool or peewee football leagues. I'd figure that makes them a target audience.
Fans grumpy, owners aren't. I think 100k people fit in that mexican stadium and the team owners got a % of the ticket sales. In the US stadium, they have to pay staff and such from ticket revenue. I'm not sure if what they brought in was comparable or maybe they're just glad to have a week off and still get paid? Owners like it.
Also, NFL players get a cut from jersey sales. I remember reading how one punter joked the league sold 2 a year. One to his mother and father. After the mexico game, they sold 100. Maybe the soccer fans like the kickers+punters? Anyhow, there's an NFL player that was glad to go.
I think the NFL teams think of it as part vacation and part an honor to show the world what you do. That mexican game was probably the 2nd highest watched game behind the Supe. When are Arizona and San Fran gonna pull that off? Playing in Mexico definitely piqued the interest of people in other foreign countries.
I was reading recently about Montreal having an NFLE team when it was called something else AFL? Well this author felt that the CFL increased in popularity as the Canadians felt a loyalty to their game. Not sure if it's true but they don't have a team anymore. Interesting thought though. I suppose Canadians also figure if we want to bring the NFL fine but don't bring this subpar NFLE type league. Canada will be the hardest place for the NFL to place it's seeds. They have their own football league, yeah it's a bit different but .... Most other countries don't and instead welcome the idea as change.
Australia seems like the easiest country, must be the distance or lack of stadium? that stops the league. The more I read, they love the NFL to a high degree that surprises me.
Canada(guess on them), Japan, Germany, Italy, England, Australia all have highschool or peewee football leagues. I'd figure that makes them a target audience.
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NFLE is primarily in Germany and NFL already does pretty well in Germany
