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Andre Brown's Week 3 Performance (1 Viewer)

RG3Fan21

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I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.

What do you think his value is going forward after Bradshaw gets back? You think he will start to be the Brandon Jacobs role that the Giants had a few years ago when it was close to a 50/50 timeshare? Or will Bradshaw go back to getting 95% of the carries? Should Fantasy owners look to trade Andre Brown once Bradshaw returns?

Thoughts?

 
You seem to tell everyone you know it all in paragraph one....why the need to ask a question?

Anyways.... Brown's value gets killed next week when Bradshaw returns.

 
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Haha Oh man, I can't brag a little bit? Harshness.

And I looked for threads on Andre's performance in week 3 on the first page of this section of the forums. I saw a Doug Wilson thread and I saw a thread asking if Andre would be a good play this week. Didn't see anything about what to do with Andre in the future...so, that's why we are here. Didn't think something so recent would be piled back past the first page of this forum.

 
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
I LUV IT WHEN UR RITE 2! :rolleyes:
 
Haha, well this totally wasn't where I intended the thread to go. Several replies in, with no opinion on Andre Brown's future in fantasy land, good job guys. :) Sorry for spilling a little bit of excitement for picking a pretty much unknown player to produce highly and he did. My bad, my bad. Go discuss the relevant Andre Brown topics.

 
Welcome to the forums man. I too was encouraged by what Andre Brown did and what he was asked to do for the team. I always appreciate the guys who work through adversity as he has over the past couple of years and then excel when an opportunity is provided. Bradshaw has never had to be heavily used as there has always been another running back with abilities on the team. With his continuing inability to stay healthy and his hard-charging running style, I see the Giants and Coach Coughlin wanting to have complimentary backs.

To this point, he has performed exceeding well and it would not be surprising for him to continue a supplementary role to Bradshaw when he returns. One thing the Giants now know, when they need a running back to carry the load, Andre Brown can do it. Carolina does not a solid run defense, so we could have seen the most productive game for Brown all year, but I think that he will continue to see the field going forward and if or when Bradshaw suffers another injury, then Brown could get another golden opportunity.

 
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
:confused: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657662&st=0&p=14783492&hl=rg3fan21&fromsearch=1entry14783492
 
Haha, well this totally wasn't where I intended the thread to go. Several replies in, with no opinion on Andre Brown's future in fantasy land, good job guys. :) Sorry for spilling a little bit of excitement for picking a pretty much unknown player to produce highly and he did. My bad, my bad. Go discuss the relevant Andre Brown topics.
No, picking a pretty much unknown player would have been pimping him BEFORE his week 2 Breakout. Everyone and their mother were trying to add him this week...he was hardly a secret.
 
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
:confused: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657662&st=0&p=14783492&hl=rg3fan21&fromsearch=1entry14783492
lolburnt
 
Welcome to the forums man. I too was encouraged by what Andre Brown did and what he was asked to do for the team. I always appreciate the guys who work through adversity as he has over the past couple of years and then excel when an opportunity is provided. Bradshaw has never had to be heavily used as there has always been another running back with abilities on the team. With his continuing inability to stay healthy and his hard-charging running style, I see the Giants and Coach Coughlin wanting to have complimentary backs.To this point, he has performed exceeding well and it would not be surprising for him to continue a supplementary role to Bradshaw when he returns. One thing the Giants now know, when they need a running back to carry the load, Andre Brown can do it. Carolina does not a solid run defense, so we could have seen the most productive game for Brown all year, but I think that he will continue to see the field going forward and if or when Bradshaw suffers another injury, then Brown could get another golden opportunity.
Thank you for a legitimate answer/opinion to the point of my post. Sounds like owners should keep Andre handy in case a timeshare starts or Bradshaw gets nicked up again.
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
:confused: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657662&st=0&p=14783492&hl=rg3fan21&fromsearch=1entry14783492
Scroll a few posts down from where this link takes you, when news breaks that Bradshaw is out...and you see when I start pushing Brown.
 
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I'm a Brown owner and agree that he looked great last night. He had a lot of burst, but also showed good vision and made some nice cuts. I'm not going to get too excited yet though b/c CAR is allowing the 5th most fantasy points to RBs right now. But we could be in luck since he did well against TB also. With CJ and Turner riding pine for me right now I have no choice but to continue to start Brown as long as Bradshaw is out. I'm sure he'll get more playing time regardless and was a solid pickup.

 
'RG3Fan21 said:
'Stephen Holloway said:
Welcome to the forums man. I too was encouraged by what Andre Brown did and what he was asked to do for the team. I always appreciate the guys who work through adversity as he has over the past couple of years and then excel when an opportunity is provided. Bradshaw has never had to be heavily used as there has always been another running back with abilities on the team. With his continuing inability to stay healthy and his hard-charging running style, I see the Giants and Coach Coughlin wanting to have complimentary backs.To this point, he has performed exceeding well and it would not be surprising for him to continue a supplementary role to Bradshaw when he returns. One thing the Giants now know, when they need a running back to carry the load, Andre Brown can do it. Carolina does not a solid run defense, so we could have seen the most productive game for Brown all year, but I think that he will continue to see the field going forward and if or when Bradshaw suffers another injury, then Brown could get another golden opportunity.
Thank you for a legitimate answer/opinion to the point of my post. Sounds like owners should keep Andre handy in case a timeshare starts or Bradshaw gets nicked up again.
'shadyridr said:
'RG3Fan21 said:
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
:confused: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657662&st=0&p=14783492&hl=rg3fan21&fromsearch=1entry14783492
Scroll a few posts down from where this link takes you, when news breaks that Bradshaw is out...and you see when I start pushing Brown.
So you waited until the starter was ruled out before you came up with your genius idea!
 
'RG3Fan21 said:
'Stephen Holloway said:
Welcome to the forums man. I too was encouraged by what Andre Brown did and what he was asked to do for the team. I always appreciate the guys who work through adversity as he has over the past couple of years and then excel when an opportunity is provided. Bradshaw has never had to be heavily used as there has always been another running back with abilities on the team. With his continuing inability to stay healthy and his hard-charging running style, I see the Giants and Coach Coughlin wanting to have complimentary backs.To this point, he has performed exceeding well and it would not be surprising for him to continue a supplementary role to Bradshaw when he returns. One thing the Giants now know, when they need a running back to carry the load, Andre Brown can do it. Carolina does not a solid run defense, so we could have seen the most productive game for Brown all year, but I think that he will continue to see the field going forward and if or when Bradshaw suffers another injury, then Brown could get another golden opportunity.
Thank you for a legitimate answer/opinion to the point of my post. Sounds like owners should keep Andre handy in case a timeshare starts or Bradshaw gets nicked up again.
'shadyridr said:
'RG3Fan21 said:
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
:confused: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657662&st=0&p=14783492&hl=rg3fan21&fromsearch=1entry14783492
Scroll a few posts down from where this link takes you, when news breaks that Bradshaw is out...and you see when I start pushing Brown.
So you waited until the starter was ruled out before you came up with your genius idea!
*gasp* You caught me. Of course I did.
 
So many pointless threads. Your opinion isn't unique enough that it couldn't have been posted in one of the various other threads.

 
'shadyridr said:
'RG3Fan21 said:
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.
:confused: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657662&st=0&p=14783492&hl=rg3fan21&fromsearch=1entry14783492
Andre Brown is supposedly ahead of Wilson with the Giants if Bradshaw is out...but will Wilson get out of the dog house and split carries?Honestly, I'm leaning more towards giving CJ one more shot...am I crazy?
:lmao: :lmao:
 
:excited: Welcome to the Shark Pool. :lmao:

I like what Brown did but I think once Bradshaw is healthy he is still the guy. IMO Wilson = CJ Spiller and not much to see for a year or two. Kid is a super talent but needs to work on other aspects of his game before he will be given the keys to the kingdom. $0.02

 
Holy crap this guy has been on FBG for 2 days.... posts in the ACF about how he's leaning toward starting CJ... someone talks him into Brown after bradshaw is ruled inactive.... Brown has a good game and he immediately rushes to the shark pool to throw his shoulder out patting himself on the back about "his call" on an "unknown" player?

:lmao:

You can't make this stuff up.

 
'RG3Fan21 said:
Haha Oh man, I can't brag a little bit? Harshness.And I looked for threads on Andre's performance in week 3 on the first page of this section of the forums. I saw a Doug Wilson thread and I saw a thread asking if Andre would be a good play this week. Didn't see anything about what to do with Andre in the future...so, that's why we are here. Didn't think something so recent would be piled back past the first page of this forum.
Look, if you're going to brag around here.......you better be prepared to take some ridiculing for it. Unless you're coming back and posting when you're dead wrong about something...........I am likely going to be waiting a long time for that. :yawn:
 
'Stephen Holloway said:
Welcome to the forums man. I too was encouraged by what Andre Brown did and what he was asked to do for the team. I always appreciate the guys who work through adversity as he has over the past couple of years and then excel when an opportunity is provided. Bradshaw has never had to be heavily used as there has always been another running back with abilities on the team. With his continuing inability to stay healthy and his hard-charging running style, I see the Giants and Coach Coughlin wanting to have complimentary backs.To this point, he has performed exceeding well and it would not be surprising for him to continue a supplementary role to Bradshaw when he returns. One thing the Giants now know, when they need a running back to carry the load, Andre Brown can do it. Carolina does not a solid run defense, so we could have seen the most productive game for Brown all year, but I think that he will continue to see the field going forward and if or when Bradshaw suffers another injury, then Brown could get another golden opportunity.
:goodposting: As long as Bradshaw is healthy, it's an RBBC, with Brown getting some good value when Bradshaw gets nicked up ......again.
 
Holy crap this guy has been on FBG for 2 days.... posts in the ACF about how he's leaning toward starting CJ... someone talks him into Brown after bradshaw is ruled inactive.... Brown has a good game and he immediately rushes to the shark pool to throw his shoulder out patting himself on the back about "his call" on an "unknown" player? :lmao: You can't make this stuff up.
I'm glad you took so much time to look so deep into my discussions on my team over the past three days. I'm sure this forum is way better off with your level of dedication.However, if you notice in that thread, my concern was whether Bradshaw would start and if he didn't, would Wilson would cut into his carries? In the official announcement that Bradshaw was out, Brown was named the starter and that's when I jumped on board. In numerous threads throughout the assistant coach forum, I answered several questions on starting RBs and Andre Brown ended up being in a lot of those. Even after the news that Brown was starting, other members of the forum were advising to start other RBs. This is where I got my thought that it seemed like it was an unpopular opinion to start Brown, but it seems like it was very common belief that Brown should get the start over players like Adrian Peterson. I mean, what was I thinking? My thread you keep quoting from had discussions with other members of the forum...after communicating with them and finding out that Brown was going to start, it was an instant decision to start Brown over AP, where in other forums that didn't seem to be a popular opinion. Fantasy Football comes with some bragging rights when certain things similar to this happen. It seems as though these bragging rights instantly get questioned and bombarded when stated on these forums. Looks as though I will be holding my tongue around here to avoid pointless posts like this, where I have to explain myself to someone who has way too much time on their hands. I didn't intend to sound like I was wanting some sort of slap on the back for picking the right guy, I was just excited for a smart play on my team. So, I apologize that it was taken that way and turned this thread into garbage.
 
'RG3Fan21 said:
I've been telling everyone this week in the assistant coach forum to start Andre Brown over many stud players. There seemed to be a lot of disagreement with my statements, but I saw what he did week 2 when Bradshaw went down and I knew the Giants were on a short week...so they wouldn't give Wilson many carries after Brown was so hot. Looks like I was right. I had him started and he produced at an Elite RB1 level. I love it when I'm right.

What do you think his value is going forward after Bradshaw gets back? You think he will start to be the Brandon Jacobs role that the Giants had a few years ago when it was close to a 50/50 timeshare? Or will Bradshaw go back to getting 95% of the carries? Should Fantasy owners look to trade Andre Brown once Bradshaw returns?

Thoughts?
Fixed. The OP does not get it (I see he is a new member so maybe I should cut him some slack on the over zealous pat on the back?). What a :tfp: . It's not like this was the call of the year. I think we all knew that Brown was in line for most of the carries. I didn't expect the Giants to get such a big lead and I would not have expected 2 tds.

Brown's success means that the Giants will have enough confidence in him to not be afraid to give him touches when needed but if Bradshaw is healthy I would still expect him to see the most work. I would guess a 70/30 workload might be closer to what you might see.

 
I drafted Wilson and was hoping he'd show something more.

Unfortunately I thought Andre Brown looked really, really good. Its hard to know what the NYG coaches will decide once Bradshaw is back, but I can't imagine Brown not being a big part of the running game if he stays healthy. I don't generally go overboard on the flavor of the week, but Brown looked legit last week and last night.

I think its easy to underestimate how complex the NFL RB job is -- what's so hard? Just take the handoff and hit the hole. But it really takes a couple years for these guys to really get their bearings. The guys who shine right away are usually the exception. My point is that Brown's time so far in the league has given him the chance to get up the curve without taking a beating on his body (which is a blessing given the achilles injury).

Anyway, I wish he wasn't such a stud, but I'd hold on to him right now and ride a successful season.

 
I really don't have a stake in this since I somehow do not own any Giants RB but I did want to throw out a good for him to Andre Brown. It has had to be a rough road with the achilles injury and then being picked up and cut several times. It's nice to see some payback for the kid.

 
Holy crap this guy has been on FBG for 2 days.... posts in the ACF about how he's leaning toward starting CJ... someone talks him into Brown after bradshaw is ruled inactive.... Brown has a good game and he immediately rushes to the shark pool to throw his shoulder out patting himself on the back about "his call" on an "unknown" player? :lmao: You can't make this stuff up.
I'm glad you took so much time to look so deep into my discussions on my team over the past three days. I'm sure this forum is way better off with your level of dedication.However, if you notice in that thread, my concern was whether Bradshaw would start and if he didn't, would Wilson would cut into his carries? In the official announcement that Bradshaw was out, Brown was named the starter and that's when I jumped on board. In numerous threads throughout the assistant coach forum, I answered several questions on starting RBs and Andre Brown ended up being in a lot of those. Even after the news that Brown was starting, other members of the forum were advising to start other RBs. This is where I got my thought that it seemed like it was an unpopular opinion to start Brown, but it seems like it was very common belief that Brown should get the start over players like Adrian Peterson. I mean, what was I thinking? My thread you keep quoting from had discussions with other members of the forum...after communicating with them and finding out that Brown was going to start, it was an instant decision to start Brown over AP, where in other forums that didn't seem to be a popular opinion. Fantasy Football comes with some bragging rights when certain things similar to this happen. It seems as though these bragging rights instantly get questioned and bombarded when stated on these forums. Looks as though I will be holding my tongue around here to avoid pointless posts like this, where I have to explain myself to someone who has way too much time on their hands. I didn't intend to sound like I was wanting some sort of slap on the back for picking the right guy, I was just excited for a smart play on my team. So, I apologize that it was taken that way and turned this thread into garbage.
you shoulda just lied and said you've been a member for years, you only just starting posting under this name three days ago. WOulda made your argument far more compelling..
 
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If I may steal one of IATS's shtick:

Pro Tip: Don't pat yourself on the back - just ask the ####### question, if you want real responses.

 
Because I'm very bored I just had a quick search of where you'd mentioned Andre Brown in AC. From what I can see, other than the thread that was already posted when you asked whether you should start him, you then recommended him over SJax and Kevin Smith. Great work on 'telling everyone to start Andre Brown over many stud players.' I also don't see all this disagreement that you mentioned.

Anyway, to answer the actual question you asked once you'd done patting yourself on the back, I think it'll be closer to a 50/50 split than many people think. Bradshaw hasn't looked that great and Brown looked amazing last night. I think it becomes a RBBC for the rest of the year, assuming both are healthy.

David Wilson is done in redraft leagues.

 
Anyway, to answer the actual question you asked once you'd done patting yourself on the back, I think it'll be closer to a 50/50 split than many people think. Bradshaw hasn't looked that great and Brown looked amazing last night. I think it becomes a RBBC for the rest of the year, assuming both are healthy.David Wilson is done in redraft leagues.
This. Andre Brown will be used as a pseudo-Brandon Jacobs 2.0. Brown runs down hill and with power. He certainly is not as big as Jacobs, but will likely be used in the same way, as he fits the bill as Bradshaw's compliment.
 
I'm glad you took so much time to look so deep into my discussions on my team over the past three days. I'm sure this forum is way better off with your level of dedication.

However, if you notice in that thread, my concern was whether Bradshaw would start and if he didn't, would Wilson would cut into his carries? In the official announcement that Bradshaw was out, Brown was named the starter and that's when I jumped on board. In numerous threads throughout the assistant coach forum, I answered several questions on starting RBs and Andre Brown ended up being in a lot of those. Even after the news that Brown was starting, other members of the forum were advising to start other RBs. This is where I got my thought that it seemed like it was an unpopular opinion to start Brown, but it seems like it was very common belief that Brown should get the start over players like Adrian Peterson. I mean, what was I thinking? My thread you keep quoting from had discussions with other members of the forum...after communicating with them and finding out that Brown was going to start, it was an instant decision to start Brown over AP, where in other forums that didn't seem to be a popular opinion.

Fantasy Football comes with some bragging rights when certain things similar to this happen. It seems as though these bragging rights instantly get questioned and bombarded when stated on these forums. Looks as though I will be holding my tongue around here to avoid pointless posts like this, where I have to explain myself to someone who has way too much time on their hands. I didn't intend to sound like I was wanting some sort of slap on the back for picking the right guy, I was just excited for a smart play on my team. So, I apologize that it was taken that way and turned this thread into garbage.
Settle down nancy... if you're going to be so quick to pat yourself on the back you can't have thin skin when someone drops a little criticism your way. You've been here 2 days... let's not get too carried away with making sure you get credit for "making calls". I've read your work here and while I'm sure you destroy the other 9 guys in your "BREWZ N #####EZ" $50 league, I can go ahead and let you know that you're sorta swimming in deeper waters here. Your hard hitting analysis that the 49ers are a good defense and starting my players against them" over in the AC isn't exactly going to have everyone taking notice either.

This is not to say you're not welcome here. This is a kickass forum with some of the (if not the) best analysis on the web. What's different here is the true whiz kids are all pretty quiet. The chest beaters like "I am the scientist" spam the threads with crap when they're right and deflect/deny when they're wrong. There are tons of other guys around here like Stompin Tom Connors, Unlucky, Hoss Cartright, and David Yudkin who...when they post... people listen. Why? because they make a lot of great calls. The difference is, they don't start a thinly veiled brag thread desperately clamoring for attention when they make these calls. Like Vince Lombardi once said... "act like you've been there before".

Also.. if you're going to make a call. Go ahead and post up a clear declaration citing the logic behind your thoughts. It will generate good discussion on the topic and overall makes the forum a better place. I don't pretend to be a great fantasy mind, but I started a thread on what I felt was a criminally low projection for Amendola this preseason. Some folks agreed, some didn't.. and that's fine. discussion is good.

Trust me... if you truly do know your #### and make some good calls... you won't have to ask for the pats on the back you seem to crave. They will come naturally.

Good luck this season and welcome to Footballguys. :thumbup:

 
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I know there are already multiple threads but geez. It would take way less energy to ignore the duplicate threads than to get on here and respond by bashing the OP.

Anyways. Watched the game last night. Reviewed it again on Rewind this morning.

My thoughts:

Carolina can't tackle. If they could have made half a dozen tackles that shouldn't have been that hard to make, Brown ends the night with 70 yards and the game stays much closer.

The Giants have a great O-Line. But even that great O-Line isn't THIS good. It was an unusual night but behind the headlines this game was dominated at the line. I don't think we can expect the Giants OL to have this much success week in and week out, but man are they a good unit.

Brown is a solid if unspectacular back. He's not extremely elusive or quick and I actually don't think he's quite as powerful as most observers do. To me he's a plodder with an above average skill set, but mainly he takes what his OL gives him.

He's a solid play. I certainly do NOT think he's performed so well that he's a feature back now. Bradshaw returns and Wilson continues to develop, turning this into a 3 headed committee. It's the new version of the Jacobs/Bradshaw/Ware running back machine. But I agree that Brown is the back to own in NY, and he heads that committee, I see RB2/3 value with occasional big games, particularly if (when) Bradshaw is hurt. So obviously he should be owned in all leagues.

A truer test of what we have in Brown will happen next week.

 
So is Andre Brown a RB1 going forward?
:no:He doesn't get to play Carolina every week - and when Bradshaw gets back, its RBBC, with Bradshaw likely seeing a larger % of carries. 60/40 Bradshaw/Brown - at best (as far as Brown owners are concerned).He's an RB2 unless playing the Jags or the like until Bradshaw gets back.
 

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