Andre Roberts, WR, Arizona (1 Viewer)

[Zaphod]

Hey guys - I was hoping to gain a little outside perspective on Andre Roberts, specifically focusing on his dynasty potential.

I liked him out of Citadel as a guy with a good ability to make plays on the ball in the air and was strong after the catch. He was a polished route runner, with good hands, in college and had decent physical stats at 5'11" and 4.46 40 time.

Unfortunately, in the years since his draft - he has been subjected to unholy QB play and the normal 'rookie' progression in his career. Additionally, after catching 51 balls last season, the Cardinals drafted Michael Floyd in the first round this year.

So, here is a guy that I felt got a bit overlooked coming into the NFL because he was from a small school. He started showing progression in his development, despite poor QB play and now the team has drafted another WR after letting Breaston go last year. There has also been much talk about him and the slot. I don't see this as requirement, but some seem quite fixated on it.

Where do the masses see him going forward? #3 slot wr only? Potential to be more? Limited by QB/team or limited by abilities? Has hit his ceiling already or just getting started?

Thanks

 

[football fan]

I was wondering the same thing, any information would be helpful!

 

[Mentos]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

 

[zed2283]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

 

[az_prof]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

 

[football fan]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

In our league, we have 45 man rosters (expands to 52 just after our draft till start of season) and Roberts is on the bubble, and odds are, unless something really significant happens that changes his situation, he will probably get cut

 

[Bradford4Prez]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

In our league, we have 45 man rosters (expands to 52 just after our draft till start of season) and Roberts is on the bubble, and odds are, unless something really significant happens that changes his situation, he will probably get cut

Must be an IDP league!

 

[lbouchard]

Can't see the no.3 WR on a mediocre at best passing attack(which would be downright horrible w/o Fitz) ever becoming a factor

 

[Mentos]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

I don't think he will be the #4 receiver. I think he is good. We shall see.

 

[zed2283]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

I don't think he will be the #4 receiver. I think he is good. We shall see.

I consider E.Doucet ahead of him, but I own Doucet.

 

[Zaphod]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

I don't think he will be the #4 receiver. I think he is good. We shall see.

This is my issue as well. From a skills perspective and talent evaluation, I have him much higher but his opportunity and team situation have not been premium. So either I have his skill set and physical abilities rated too highly (entirely possible, likely even) or his surroundings have not allowed him to flourish as of yet and I need to remain patient.

 

[Sweet Love]

Depending on what AZ's offensive goals/schemes are going to be, I could see him getting moved. Reminds me of when ATL had White, Jenkins, Douglas and Laurent Robinson. A lot of potential versus stats from Robinson and Douglas, and they still moved one. In AZ, you have a better #1, a highly touted #2, and two guys (Doucet and Roberts), who already proved more than Robinson and Douglas ever had at that point. While I realize there is the security of having four capable WRs, compare the perceived value of a guy like Ramses Barden two years ago to today.

 

[football fan]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

In our league, we have 45 man rosters (expands to 52 just after our draft till start of season) and Roberts is on the bubble, and odds are, unless something really significant happens that changes his situation, he will probably get cut

Must be an IDP league!

Yes it is, we start 11 IDPs each game. Roberts is my 7th WR out of seven receivers, I had picked him off the wavier wire last year because our league is also a PPR league, figuring that Roberts would break out sometime in the future, but he just doesn't seem to breakout. I drafted Ruben Randle and Ryan Broyles this year, and I currently have them slightly higher than Roberts.I would like to hold onto Roberts to see if he breaks out, but I may not have the roster space to hang onto him any longer.He teases, but he never really breaks out.Maybe he is just one of those bubble guys.I was really looking forward to other people opinions about Roberts to help me make a decision on whether to keep him rostered this year.

 

[Mentos]

Roberts is still a young guy and he came from a small school. He can definitely break out this season.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

In our league, we have 45 man rosters (expands to 52 just after our draft till start of season) and Roberts is on the bubble, and odds are, unless something really significant happens that changes his situation, he will probably get cut

Must be an IDP league!

Yes it is, we start 11 IDPs each game. Roberts is my 7th WR out of seven receivers, I had picked him off the wavier wire last year because our league is also a PPR league, figuring that Roberts would break out sometime in the future, but he just doesn't seem to breakout. I drafted Ruben Randle and Ryan Broyles this year, and I currently have them slightly higher than Roberts.I would like to hold onto Roberts to see if he breaks out, but I may not have the roster space to hang onto him any longer.He teases, but he never really breaks out.Maybe he is just one of those bubble guys.I was really looking forward to other people opinions about Roberts to help me make a decision on whether to keep him rostered this year.

He has had two seasons in the NFL after coming out of The Citadel. I dont think I would write him off just because he hasn't broken out yet.

 

[kutta]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

 

[finito]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I read that as of now he's the #2, but it really seems like coach-speak so Floyd doesn't feel a sense of entitlement.

 

[squistion]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

 

[football fan]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

In our league, we have 45 man rosters (expands to 52 just after our draft till start of season) and Roberts is on the bubble, and odds are, unless something really significant happens that changes his situation, he will probably get cut

Must be an IDP league!

Yes it is, we start 11 IDPs each game. Roberts is my 7th WR out of seven receivers, I had picked him off the wavier wire last year because our league is also a PPR league, figuring that Roberts would break out sometime in the future, but he just doesn't seem to breakout. I drafted Ruben Randle and Ryan Broyles this year, and I currently have them slightly higher than Roberts.I would like to hold onto Roberts to see if he breaks out, but I may not have the roster space to hang onto him any longer.He teases, but he never really breaks out.Maybe he is just one of those bubble guys.I was really looking forward to other people opinions about Roberts to help me make a decision on whether to keep him rostered this year.

He has had two seasons in the NFL after coming out of The Citadel. I dont think I would write him off just because he hasn't broken out yet.

The issue for me is not writing Roberts off as a bust, but with limited roster space, he is on the bubble of making my roster. I am gathering information to make an intelligent roster decisions at cut down time. All I am doing is seeking more complete information on Roberts, so I can make the best decision possible.

 

[Zaphod]

With the drafting of Floyd, it is hard to see where Roberts will have a large role in this offense going forward. He was a marginal fantasy player last season as a starter. I would cut him unless you are able to have a very deep roster.

In our league, we have 45 man rosters (expands to 52 just after our draft till start of season) and Roberts is on the bubble, and odds are, unless something really significant happens that changes his situation, he will probably get cut

Must be an IDP league!

Yes it is, we start 11 IDPs each game. Roberts is my 7th WR out of seven receivers, I had picked him off the wavier wire last year because our league is also a PPR league, figuring that Roberts would break out sometime in the future, but he just doesn't seem to breakout. I drafted Ruben Randle and Ryan Broyles this year, and I currently have them slightly higher than Roberts.I would like to hold onto Roberts to see if he breaks out, but I may not have the roster space to hang onto him any longer.He teases, but he never really breaks out.Maybe he is just one of those bubble guys.I was really looking forward to other people opinions about Roberts to help me make a decision on whether to keep him rostered this year.

He has had two seasons in the NFL after coming out of The Citadel. I dont think I would write him off just because he hasn't broken out yet.

The issue for me is not writing Roberts off as a bust, but with limited roster space, he is on the bubble of making my roster. I am gathering information to make an intelligent roster decisions at cut down time. All I am doing is seeking more complete information on Roberts, so I can make the best decision possible.

That is my intent as well. Teams that consistently vie for the championship each year are the ones that understand which fringe players to cut and which to continue to invest in.This brings up another interesting thought - maybe this would be a good article or thread content - pick fringe players and have people weigh in on them for a couple of days and then move on to another player. Wouldn't be as sexy as the spotlight stuff, but would be a lot more useful to me as a dynasty owner.

 

[Catbird]

I am not down on Roberts, but I think he probably is what he seems to be. He's not big at 5'11", but big enough to play. He's not fast at 4.46, but fast enough to play. He runs good routes, has fairly good hands. Fights for the ball but doesn't over-power or explode on anyone.

I agree they took Floyd with a 1st because they wanted more than what Roberts offers. The Cards, and Fitzgerald, want someone explosive enough that defenses can't focus only on shutting Fitz down and dare them to do anything else. I think they envision Fitz-Floyd creating the horrible problem for defenses that White - Jones do in ATL. So I think this is Robert's last best chance with the Cards coming up - because rookie WRs often don't take over right away. I see Andre's future in PHX as wholely dependent on Floyd's progress - and that his role will diminishing as Floyd excells. If the Cards have to start with a new QB, I don't think Roberts will likely survive the length of transition - at least not being worth anything. And for this year, running as a #2-#3 to Fitz with Floyd in for a lot of the quick strike and deep plays (and teh very real risk of Floyd taking over completely as the #2) and with only those QBs ... Andre is probably rosterable at around 23-25, but absent injury, doesn't have much upside. And I am only looking for upside with those spots.

 

[kutta]

The other thing to consider is that Doucet is still on the team and could very well end up as the 3 guy and Roberts could be the 4.

 

[r3t2]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

yes, i own him. and no, i am not predicting a huge breakout. but the guy was 24/307/2 as a rookie and went to 51/586/2 in his second year, and over the 2nd half of the season was WR 28 in my ppr league. without fantastic quarterback play. maybe we can give him a third year before we bury him.

 

[football fan]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

yes, i own him. and no, i am not predicting a huge breakout. but the guy was 24/307/2 as a rookie and went to 51/586/2 in his second year, and over the 2nd half of the season was WR 28 in my ppr league. without fantastic quarterback play. maybe we can give him a third year before we bury him.

That is a great point, the QB play in Arizona has an influence on all the Arizona ff WR values, just another reason to wonder if Roberts has the ability to be a quality starting NFL WR.Maybe the QB play will stunt his development as a WR. Arizona doesn't know for sure who their starter is next year. Without chemistry and consistency, it is harder to develop ability to play.

New surroundings and a better QB might really help Roberts, but the clock is running, he does need to show something in the next couple of years otherwise he will be nothing but a ff afterthought.

Roberts isn't a bust yet, but if he doesn't show something in the next few years, he will be.

 

[Abraham]

He is useful in best ball leagues but that's about it.

 

[N Zone]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

I don't think he will be the #4 receiver. I think he is good. We shall see.

I consider E.Doucet ahead of him, but I own Doucet.

Doucet's not ahead of him.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

I don't think he will be the #4 receiver. I think he is good. We shall see.

I consider E.Doucet ahead of him, but I own Doucet.

Roberts has much more potential and overall talent than Doucet.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

I gotta say, that is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen regarding anything FF related. The guy has played only 2 seasons and basically doubled his production between his first and second seasons. Anyone who knows just a little about FF WRs is that their breakout window is between season 2-4 typically. He has 2 more seasons to crack 1,000 yards for me to say his window is closed.I'm surprised at how many people are just giving the rookie the #2 without him playing a down in the NFL. I happen to think Roberts is prime for a breakout season. I own him in a 16 team dynasty and am trying to trade for him in another dynasty. His combine metrics are comparable to those of elite players. I certainly would not write this guy off and in fact, I'd seek him out as a buy low guy with a much higher ceiling than most are willing to recognize.

 

[RavenLunatic]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

I gotta say, that is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen regarding anything FF related. The guy has played only 2 seasons and basically doubled his production between his first and second seasons. Anyone who knows just a little about FF WRs is that their breakout window is between season 2-4 typically. He has 2 more seasons to crack 1,000 yards for me to say his window is closed.I'm surprised at how many people are just giving the rookie the #2 without him playing a down in the NFL. I happen to think Roberts is prime for a breakout season. I own him in a 16 team dynasty and am trying to trade for him in another dynasty. His combine metrics are comparable to those of elite players. I certainly would not write this guy off and in fact, I'd seek him out as a buy low guy with a much higher ceiling than most are willing to recognize.

I think we just were a year too early for Roberts. He was on alot of sleeper lists last year and didnt break out, but that doesnt mean he is any less talented. Alot will really come back to quality of QB play and carrying late season success into 2012.

 

[kutta]

I think he will catch at least 70 passes this season.

That's a lot for a #4.

I don't think he will be the #4 receiver. I think he is good. We shall see.

I consider E.Doucet ahead of him, but I own Doucet.

Roberts has much more potential and overall talent than Doucet.

Why do you say that? I've watched every snap of every game that these guys have played in their pro careers, and I honestly don't see why you say that. In Doucet's first full season being healthy last year, he outperformed Roberts in every category. Doucet was just signed to a new two-year contract, and his natural position is the slot, which fits nicely with the addition Floyd opposite Fitz.I'm not saying that Doucet is all that much better than Roberts, just that I don't see why you say Roberts is so much better.

 

[kutta]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

I gotta say, that is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen regarding anything FF related. The guy has played only 2 seasons and basically doubled his production between his first and second seasons. Anyone who knows just a little about FF WRs is that their breakout window is between season 2-4 typically. He has 2 more seasons to crack 1,000 yards for me to say his window is closed.I'm surprised at how many people are just giving the rookie the #2 without him playing a down in the NFL. I happen to think Roberts is prime for a breakout season. I own him in a 16 team dynasty and am trying to trade for him in another dynasty. His combine metrics are comparable to those of elite players. I certainly would not write this guy off and in fact, I'd seek him out as a buy low guy with a much higher ceiling than most are willing to recognize.

It's really not that ignorant of a statement. The Cardinals had plenty of needs, especially offensive line this year. But they chose to draft a WR in the first round, one that is drawing some pretty darn good reviews so far. They also have Doucet who just signed a new two-year deal still on the roster who had a better year last year than Roberts. It is very possible that Roberts ends up as the #4 WR this year in AZ. I would agree that there is a chance that Floyd, Roberts, and Doucet all play Russian Roulette with the 2,3, and 4 WR spots all year, but I think the chances are better that Floyd earns and holds the 2, and Roberts and Doucet fight for the 3 and 4 and end up with scraps all year.

I think if you are buying him now in the hopes that he breaks out and becomes fantasy relevant, you will be disappointed.

 

[mjr]

(Rotoworld) Darren Urban of the Cardinals official website projects Andre Roberts to start opposite of Larry Fitzgerald this season.Analysis: Early post-draft expectations had first-rounder Michael Floyd as the starter, but coach Ken Whisenhunt has made it clear that nothing will be handed to the rookie. According to Urban, the coaching staff has an increased "level of confidence" in Roberts after his improved play down the stretch last season.

I know this article doesn't mean a whole lot right now, but it might be worth holding on to Roberts until preseason to see how things shake out in Arizona. Even if Floyd is the better WR, it doesn't necessarily mean he's a lock to start opposite Fitz immediately. Who knows...might take him a year or two to get up to speed.

 

[kutta]

(Rotoworld) Darren Urban of the Cardinals official website projects Andre Roberts to start opposite of Larry Fitzgerald this season.Analysis: Early post-draft expectations had first-rounder Michael Floyd as the starter, but coach Ken Whisenhunt has made it clear that nothing will be handed to the rookie. According to Urban, the coaching staff has an increased "level of confidence" in Roberts after his improved play down the stretch last season.

I know this article doesn't mean a whole lot right now, but it might be worth holding on to Roberts until preseason to see how things shake out in Arizona. Even if Floyd is the better WR, it doesn't necessarily mean he's a lock to start opposite Fitz immediately. Who knows...might take him a year or two to get up to speed.

The only thing that should be taken from this statement is that it might make Floyd a little cheaper to acquire, which is a good thing.

 

[Hoot&HoLLer]

Latest reports are that Michael Floyd is out of shape and possibly looking to start the season at third or fourth on the depth chart with Roberts starting opposite Fitzgerald.Roberts was a third round pick and is no slouch while having showed good development his first two seasons with dubious qb play.

 

[finito]

Latest reports are that Michael Floyd is out of shape and possibly looking to start the season at third or fourth on the depth chart with Roberts starting opposite Fitzgerald.Roberts was a third round pick and is no slouch while having showed good development his first two seasons with dubious qb play.

Thing is he really hasn't distanced himself in terms of numbers or targets or production from Early Doucet. The two of them seem to share targets, negating both of their values. They'll bring Floyd along slowly but they will in all likelihood try to get him involved, so that's another target to take away from Roberts. I think his ceiling is going to be pretty low in this offense, but I guess you never know.

 

[EBF]

Another decent game for Roberts this week. He was WR32 in my league from weeks 10-17 last season. Seems like he's picking up right where he left off, averaging about ~60 yards per game. Just enough to keep him relevant, but not enough to make him really valuable.

The fact that Kolb has called him a "special player" and that he's managed to surpass Doucet and hold off Floyd (for the time being) suggests that he has some talent. Makes you wonder what he could do with a real quarterback.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Another decent game for Roberts this week. He was WR32 in my league from weeks 10-17 last season. Seems like he's picking up right where he left off, averaging about ~60 yards per game. Just enough to keep him relevant, but not enough to make him really valuable. The fact that Kolb has called him a "special player" and that he's managed to surpass Doucet and hold off Floyd (for the time being) suggests that he has some talent. Makes you wonder what he could do with a real quarterback.

I don't have #'s from last year on hand, but I was surprised to see he was in for 53 of 64 snaps (83%) and saw 9 targets. It looks like the volume of reps will be a mainstay, what he does with them is the real question. If only someone relevant was behind center.

 

[BallparkFrank]

This Rotoworld blurb from September 6th has stuck with me for some reason. A bit on the...abrasive...side.

Andre Roberts - WR - Cardinals

Cardinals WR Andre Roberts was added to Thursday's injury report as limited with an ankle injury.

Roberts may have sustained the injury in Thursday's practice. Although he's listed as the starter opposite Larry Fitzgerald, Robert is only a fantasy option in "race to the bottom" leagues.

 

[EBF]

I have Roberts in a lot of leagues. Whoever writes those blurbs for Rotoworld is and always has been a big Roberts hater. They've basically insisted that he's worthless regardless of whatever's going on.

 

[clwn_posse]

A lot of poorly written articles come from Rotoworld. I'm glad FBGs reprints them verbatim to throw off all of the lemmings.

I like Roberts but wonder if he can every be much more than a Bobby Engram type even with a decent QB.

 

[Nucker101]

I picked him up in my 14 team league, he's a good depth wr in ppr leagues as a fill-in for bye weeks and injuries. I agree that he's got more talent than his numbers would suggest.

 

[FF Ninja]

There is talk that Roberts could earn the #2 spot, but I don't see it. He is one of those guys who will play for awhile in the NFL, but will always be a 3 guy, trying to be a 2. That makes for a decent NFL career (see Steve Breaston) but doesn't do much for fantasy purposes.

I don't see it either, at least in the long term (I could see him as the #2 during a transition period until Michael Floyd is up to speed).But if Roberts was really the answer as the future #2 in Arizona, that raises the question as to why did the Cards draft Floyd? If they thought they had their future #2 already on the roster, one would think that they would have not gone with Floyd with the 13th pick.

I think that barring injury, the window of opportunity has passed for Roberts. He needed to step up last year and for whatever reason he didn't do so. Yes, he is a small school, project type player and could keep steadily improving - but IMO we probably should have seen more last season. He is marginally rosterable in deep leagues - I am in a roster 30 league and if he were on the waiver wire I guess I would pick him up (but that would depend on who else would be available and who I would have to cut).

I gotta say, that is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen regarding anything FF related. The guy has played only 2 seasons and basically doubled his production between his first and second seasons. Anyone who knows just a little about FF WRs is that their breakout window is between season 2-4 typically. He has 2 more seasons to crack 1,000 yards for me to say his window is closed.I'm surprised at how many people are just giving the rookie the #2 without him playing a down in the NFL. I happen to think Roberts is prime for a breakout season. I own him in a 16 team dynasty and am trying to trade for him in another dynasty. His combine metrics are comparable to those of elite players. I certainly would not write this guy off and in fact, I'd seek him out as a buy low guy with a much higher ceiling than most are willing to recognize.

It's really not that ignorant of a statement. The Cardinals had plenty of needs, especially offensive line this year. But they chose to draft a WR in the first round, one that is drawing some pretty darn good reviews so far. They also have Doucet who just signed a new two-year deal still on the roster who had a better year last year than Roberts. It is very possible that Roberts ends up as the #4 WR this year in AZ. I would agree that there is a chance that Floyd, Roberts, and Doucet all play Russian Roulette with the 2,3, and 4 WR spots all year, but I think the chances are better that Floyd earns and holds the 2, and Roberts and Doucet fight for the 3 and 4 and end up with scraps all year.

I think if you are buying him now in the hopes that he breaks out and becomes fantasy relevant, you will be disappointed.

I know it's just one week, but Rhythmdoctor is 1-0. The guy got 9 targets and a rush - that's solid for just about any WR. Whoever wrote the FBG game summary seemed to like him:

Roberts looked like the clear second option in Arizona, no matter who the quarterback was. His first touch of the game was an end around where he broke three tackles on the 15 yard gain. Later in the drive he made a great catch in between two defenders for a 19 yard pick up. His route on the game winning touchdown was a thing of beauty, and Kolb put it in a great place after he'd beat his man by just a step.

IIRC this guy is a Waldman favorite. Definitely was worth a very late round flyer.

 

[kutta]

I agree he had a good game, but I still don't see him being very fantasy relevant this year.

Floyd failed to impress in camp so he still has to work his way up the depth chart. It does look like Roberts has beaten out Doucet for the 2 right now.

I noticed at one point in the fourth quarter Fitz and Floyd were the only two WR's in the game. That was strange.

I hope Roberts becomes a great 2 for the Cards. But I really don't see it happening.

 

[G-King]

Kolb is very high on him, and since he's starting this week we should see him go at him if coverage dictates it.

 

[renesauz]

Kolb is very high on him, and since he's starting this week we should see him go at him if coverage dictates it.

Roberts may be a nice sneaky flex play in some leagues.

 

[EBF]

Monster game this week. He also had a 79 yarder called back last week on a minor blocking penalty that probably didn't affect the play.

Safe to start him every week from here on out?

 

[kutta]

He sure is looking good.

 

[EBF]

Yea, it's been nice to see him progress over the years. When he was first coming into the league I thought he had potential to be the next Derrick Mason.

It took a while, but he is starting to look like that guy.

 

[oPlaiD]

I've been starting him in my three PPR leagues already...

In my non-PPR he's been on my bench and I have him benched this week for Austin, Nelson, and Harvin. Naturally Harvin puts up 3.4 points since I don't get his return TD and Roberts has his monster game.

In PPR Roberts is probably a good play but I'm not sure he's going to be consistent enough in scoring TDs and getting yards in non, although Kolb seems like he's getting more comfortable and if Arizona relies on the pass more and more due to inconsistent rushing Roberts should be a good play going forward.

 

[BallparkFrank]

Fitz-Roberts-Floyd has all the makings of being a really good WR corps. That trio is going to be hard to handle if Kolb can get them the ball - Housler, too.