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Andy D's alias does a one-liner, two round mock draft. (1 Viewer)

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Round 1

1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma

If you don't have a QB, you've got to get one.

2. Detroit - Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State

Need to protect the investment in their franchise QB.

3. Tampa Bay - Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska

Luck be a lady or a boy named Suh.

4. Washington - Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa

Fast riser fits a big need.

5. Kansas City - Trent Williams OT Oklahoma

Pushes the heretofore disappointing Albert inside and improves a weak o-line in two spots.

6. Seattle - Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech

A bit of a reach but a definite need given the Tapp trade and Kearney's AARP checks.

7. Cleveland - Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma

DT's fall quite often, Haloti Ngata for example.

8. Oakland - Rolando McClain ILB Alabama

Kirk Morrison might be on his way out, their run D is atrocious, and this is just the type of pick Darth Raider would make.

9. Buffalo - Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame

Might be better off taking Charles Brown here, but Clausen does have the potential even if he seems like the King Of The Tools.

10. Jacksonville - Eric Berry FS Tennessee

Burning another top 10 pick on a safety seems silly, but Berry is an upgrade to the disappointing Reggie nelson.

11. Denver - from Chicago - Dan Williams DT Tennessee

Even with the DL free agent signings, the need for fresh legs at the position facilitates this selection.

12. Miami - Brandon Graham OLB/DE Michigan

High motor guy fits Parcells' love of pass rushing OLBs.

13. San Francisco - Charles Brown OT Southern California

Have to take him here - have to.

14. Seattle - from Denver - Joe Haden CB Florida

Their d-backfield is a near complete wreck.

15. New York Giants - C.J. Spiller RB Clemson

This doesn't seem to fit, but they got their safety, at this spot there's no likely defender pick, and he would add to special teams as well as the running game.

16. Tennessee - Kyle Wilson CB Boise State

They ranked something like 33rd in the league in pass defense last year.

17. San Francisco - from Carolina - Earl Thomas CB Texas

He could play safety if Bly and Harris both play, or corner if one/both leaves.

18. Pittsburgh - Devin McCourty CB Rutgers

A prospect with a lot of question marks, but the Steelers need to take this chance.

19. Atlanta - Everson Griffen DE Southern California

Will the lightbulb that turned on his senior year continue to burn as a pro?

20. Houston - Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State

A bad year to need a cornerback so they make their strength (offense) stronger.

21. Cincinnati - Mike Iupati OG Idaho

Guards are boring to fans on draft day, but keeping Carson Palmer alive is relatively important to their team's success.

22. New England - Sergio Kindle OLB Texas

A player I'm not particularly high on, but they've got to get someone to get outside pressure.

23. Green Bay - Taylor Mays FS Southern California

Opinions are all over the board on Mays, and the Pack has other needs, but what if he's as good as he looks?

24. Philadelphia - Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida

They're ALWAYS looking to improve their defensive line.

25. Baltimore - Brian Price DT UCLA

Depth along the d-line is a major need.

26. Arizona - Ricky Sapp OLB Clemson

A player that's not getting enough love and seriously, Joey Porter?

27. Dallas - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State

Yes he can fall this far and Jerry would be happy to take him even with what he's spent on Roy.

28. San Diego - Jared Odrick DT Penn State

Another team that needs depth and starters on the d-line.

29. New York Jets - Jerry Hughes DE TCU

May go higher than this but if here, he could be the guy they hoped they were getting in Gholston.

30. Minnesota - Maurkice Pouncey C Florida

A big problem with the Vikes' running game was that John Sullivan got pushed into the backfield a ton.

31. Indianapolis - Vladimir Ducasse OT Massachusetts

Too high for him here, but the Colts need to improve the o-line.

32. New Orleans - Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri

His name is linked to them quite a bit and I like it, especially after losing Fujita.
 
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Round 2 1. St. Louis - Golden Tate WR Notre Dame Pick your favorite WR and place him here. 2. Detroit - Kareem Jackson CB Alabama Their current starters are horrendous. 3. Tampa Bay - Carlos Dunlap DE Florida Don't drink and drive kids. 4. Kansas City - Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech Whither Dwayne Bowe? 5. Washington - Jahvid Best RB California Would be an excellent compliment to grandpa Clinton and great-grandpa Larry. 6. Cleveland - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma The Big Show loves his tight ends - that doesn't sound right, does it? 7. Oakland - Bruce Campbell OT Maryland Great combine numbers but questionable film push him into the 2nd round. 8. San Diego - Cam Thomas DT North Carolina They luck out when the Seahawks overpay for some scrub and get the replacement they need in the middle of their d-line. 9. Buffalo - Lamarr Houston DT Texas Could be the 3-4 NT that they desperately need. 10. Tampa Bay - from Chicago - Arrelious Benn WR Illinois Tremendous pro-day can't offset his lackluster career, but a high 2nd round spot isn't terrible to start from. 11. Miami - Damian Williams WR Southern California Great route runner has the tools to be a #1. 12. New England - from Jacksonville - Anthony McCoy TE Southern California Severe shortage of TEs on the Pats roster. 13. Denver - Brandon LaFell WR LSU Good run blocker and has the tools to develop into a solid starter. 14. New York Giants - Daryl Washington OLB TCU A guy that could go much higher but the Giants luck out in getting him here. 15. New England - from Tennessee - Tim Tebow He has to go somewhere and here is a good spot as HE could hope for. 16. Carolina - Tyson Alualu DT California What a deep class of d-linemen this year! 17. San Francisco - Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest Starters are Dre Bly and Walt Harris, both nearing the end. 18. Kansas City - from Atlanta - Koa Misi OLB Utah Chiefs bite on a guy that looks like a workout warrior but could fit in their 3-4 scheme. 19. Houston - Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma Not sure which CB they'd like to have at this spot, but they can't roll with what they've got. 20. Pittsburgh - Jon Asamoah OG Illinois Versatile lineman can play many spots, but unfortunately not all of them. 21. New England - Brandon Spikes LB Florida Bad times push him down and the Pats are happy to place him next to Mayo. 22. Cincinnati - Chad Jones SS LSU Need to do something to shore up the middle of that backfield since Roy Williams is in it. 23. Philadelphia - Nate Allen FS South Florida Still struggling after losing Dawkins, Allen would fit well in this backfield. 24. Green Bay - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers A classic "looks like Tarzan plays like Jane" player that would be very good if the light turns on. 25. Baltimore - Patrick Robinson CB Florida State An enigma of a player. 26. Arizona - Reshad Jones SS Georgia Safeties = yawn. 27. Dallas - Morgan Burnett FS Georgia Tech Safeties = yawn. 28. Seattle - Rodger Saffold OT Indiana Probably doesn't belong even this high, but was a four year starter that could play right away. 29. New York Jets - Corey Wootton DE Northwestern We'd be talking about him in the 1st if he hadn't torn his ACL. 30. Minnesota - Chris Cook CB Virginia Colt McCoy should go in the 2nd somewhere and I'd be thrilled if he were to become a Vike. 31. Indianapolis - Terrence Cody DT Alabama Beefy. 32. New Orleans - Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech Who knows how the Saints will manage their RB position?
 
Nice job as usual, Andy.Bold 1st round pick for the Giants.
But it makes sense depending on your perspective. Both their run game and return game was really pedestrian last year. As "they" say "they lack explosiveness on offense".And in this scenario, I didn't see anyone that they'd reach for on the d-line or linebacker corps.Spiller would add a lot to that team.
 
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Hate Mays for GB...but love getting Davis in the 2nd.
I thought you'd say that. But TT always does the unexpected and the safety spot has given them fits.I don't really know where Mays fits in the first or if he really even does.

 
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Hate Mays for GB...but love getting Davis in the 2nd.
I thought you'd say that. But TT always does the unexpected and the safety spot has given them fits.I don't really know where Mays fits in the first or if he really even does.
He does...I just have a bad feeling he is nothing but Roy Williams part 2.If they go D I hope its Wilson or McCourty to be the CB of the future and have an immediate impact on special teams...or an OLB to compliment Matthews. Unless somehow Earl Thomas would fall to them.

 
Hate Mays for GB...but love getting Davis in the 2nd.
I thought you'd say that. But TT always does the unexpected and the safety spot has given them fits.I don't really know where Mays fits in the first or if he really even does.
He does...I just have a bad feeling he is nothing but Roy Williams part 2.If they go D I hope its Wilson or McCourty to be the CB of the future and have an immediate impact on special teams...or an OLB to compliment Matthews. Unless somehow Earl Thomas would fall to them.
Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp perhaps?
 
Hate Mays for GB...but love getting Davis in the 2nd.
I thought you'd say that. But TT always does the unexpected and the safety spot has given them fits.I don't really know where Mays fits in the first or if he really even does.
He does...I just have a bad feeling he is nothing but Roy Williams part 2.If they go D I hope its Wilson or McCourty to be the CB of the future and have an immediate impact on special teams...or an OLB to compliment Matthews. Unless somehow Earl Thomas would fall to them.
Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp perhaps?
I like Hughes a lot.Kimble, Graham if he makes it.

Sapp I like the potential...wondering if the injuries would scare the Packers away though. He could be the best of the bunch though...so athletic.

 
Really liking the Denver picks...even with the pickups along the DL, they need some youth to spell and eventually take over.

 
Hate Mays for GB...but love getting Davis in the 2nd.
I thought you'd say that. But TT always does the unexpected and the safety spot has given them fits.I don't really know where Mays fits in the first or if he really even does.
He does...I just have a bad feeling he is nothing but Roy Williams part 2.If they go D I hope its Wilson or McCourty to be the CB of the future and have an immediate impact on special teams...or an OLB to compliment Matthews. Unless somehow Earl Thomas would fall to them.
Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp perhaps?
I like Hughes a lot.Kimble, Graham if he makes it.

Sapp I like the potential...wondering if the injuries would scare the Packers away though. He could be the best of the bunch though...so athletic.
This is a great year for teams running 3-4 defenses. A great year for defense in general.
 
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I don't like Kindle to the Pats; too much risk with Odrick, Pouncey and Dez Bryant still on the board.
Odrick I could definitely see. But Pouncey and Bryant, eh?
The depth behind Neal and Mankins is sketchy at best. Sure they resigned Neal but he has fought injuries and is unreliable, from a health standpoint, in his own right. Koppen has been getting worked in the middle as well. They need to protect the center of the line better; there are games where Brady gets worked up the middle. I don't know that they go Pouncey here but over Kindle I would feel better about that.Bryant just seems like too good of a value at 22 to pass on. Maybe Moss could even help him at least temper some of his diva tendencies. I just looked at your second round; please, for god's sake, why do people put Tebow with the Pats? Unless you think Tom Brady is going somewhere in the next 4-5 years he is a wasted pick.
 
I just looked at your second round; please, for god's sake, why do people put Tebow with the Pats? Unless you think Tom Brady is going somewhere in the next 4-5 years he is a wasted pick.
Because I think BB would find use for him somewhere. He advised Tebow to stay at Florida in the first place.Pre-draft workouts are generally meaningless, but Tebow did work out for the Pats. And they have three 2nd rounders so it's worth taking the chance.
 
Round 22. Detroit - Kareem Jackson CB Alabama Their current starters are horrendous.
I certainly would not have a problem with this pick, but I think the Lions will take Best here (if he's there) and a CB in round 3.
 
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Round 1

7. Cleveland - Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma

DT's fall quite often, Haloti Ngata for example.
Possible, but where would he play in the 3-4?Also don't see them passing on Berry if he's there.

Round 2

6. Cleveland - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma

The Big Show loves his tight ends - that doesn't sound right, does it?
Doubtful. Browns just signed Ben Watson to a 3-year deal.
 
Round 1

7. Cleveland - Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma

DT's fall quite often, Haloti Ngata for example.
Possible, but where would he play in the 3-4?Also don't see them passing on Berry if he's there.
I think McCoy would make a fine 3-4 DE. And they could easily pass on Berry. Safeties are risky picks to take that high. But they'd get a heck of a player if they did take him, for sure.

Round 2

6. Cleveland - Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma

The Big Show loves his tight ends - that doesn't sound right, does it?
Doubtful. Browns just signed Ben Watson to a 3-year deal.
Ben Watson is just a guy.
He turned in his most productive season in 2006 when he hauled in 49 passes for 643 yards and three touchdowns. He accounted for a career-high six touchdown catches the following year, when he totaled 36 receptions for 389 yards. He turned in the lone 100-yard receiving game of his career in 2007, in a matchup against the Browns on October 7 at Gillette Stadium when he had six receptions for 107 yards and a pair of touchdowns.

Last year with New England, Watson played in all 16 games with seven starts and caught 29 passes for 404 yards and five scores
Yawn.
 
I thought Cody was going up, not down. If the Bills are looking to take a 3-4 NT (which I assume they will be) wouldn't Cody be a great fit with thier 2nd pick? What do you see that makes you think Houston is a better NT than Cody?

 
I thought Cody was going up, not down. If the Bills are looking to take a 3-4 NT (which I assume they will be) wouldn't Cody be a great fit with thier 2nd pick? What do you see that makes you think Houston is a better NT than Cody?
Nothing. Except for the fact that I think Houston will give a team more snaps per game than Cody. I know he slimmed down for the combine, but that's kind of the point. I think his stamina level will be a real problem for him.But there's not a ton of difference between them. Cody would be an excellent pick for the Bills' 2nd rounder.
 
I just looked at your second round; please, for god's sake, why do people put Tebow with the Pats? Unless you think Tom Brady is going somewhere in the next 4-5 years he is a wasted pick.
Because I think BB would find use for him somewhere. He advised Tebow to stay at Florida in the first place.Pre-draft workouts are generally meaningless, but Tebow did work out for the Pats. And they have three 2nd rounders so it's worth taking the chance.
No it's not. I would imagine that Belichick has advised a lot of football players. With all the needs the Patriots have I don't see Tebow as having ANY value in the first two rounds. I see DL, OL, OLB, WR and RB as far greater needs than a questionable QB who might be a decent to good H-Back. If the character issues are so bad on this team that they need to bring in a 'high character" guy with "a good work ethic" and no definable position then this team is doomed. The coaches are hired to make sure the players are accountable for their on field performances.

If you can convince me that Tebow has the frame and hands to develop into a great TE then I might agree that he has a 2nd round grade for the Pats otherwise they tend to draft their H-Backs much later.

 
I just looked at your second round; please, for god's sake, why do people put Tebow with the Pats? Unless you think Tom Brady is going somewhere in the next 4-5 years he is a wasted pick.
Because I think BB would find use for him somewhere. He advised Tebow to stay at Florida in the first place.Pre-draft workouts are generally meaningless, but Tebow did work out for the Pats. And they have three 2nd rounders so it's worth taking the chance.
No it's not. I would imagine that Belichick has advised a lot of football players. With all the needs the Patriots have I don't see Tebow as having ANY value in the first two rounds. I see DL, OL, OLB, WR and RB as far greater needs than a questionable QB who might be a decent to good H-Back. If the character issues are so bad on this team that they need to bring in a 'high character" guy with "a good work ethic" and no definable position then this team is doomed. The coaches are hired to make sure the players are accountable for their on field performances.

If you can convince me that Tebow has the frame and hands to develop into a great TE then I might agree that he has a 2nd round grade for the Pats otherwise they tend to draft their H-Backs much later.
Okay. I just think he's going somewhere in the first two rounds and since the Pats had four picks I used one of them as a placeholder for Tebow.Give them somone like Tyson Alualu or Corey Wootton if you like.

Edit: One more thing - I don't know if Brady plays as long as we think he will.

 
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If he is available at the #2 pick and the Lions don't draft Suh I may very well break multiple things in my home.
Bah. Save your things. As good as he is (and he really is) DTs aren't worth spending a #2 pick on especially when your franchise QB is getting killed because his starting LT is Jeff Backus.
 
I just looked at your second round; please, for god's sake, why do people put Tebow with the Pats? Unless you think Tom Brady is going somewhere in the next 4-5 years he is a wasted pick.
Because I think BB would find use for him somewhere. He advised Tebow to stay at Florida in the first place.Pre-draft workouts are generally meaningless, but Tebow did work out for the Pats. And they have three 2nd rounders so it's worth taking the chance.
No it's not. I would imagine that Belichick has advised a lot of football players. With all the needs the Patriots have I don't see Tebow as having ANY value in the first two rounds. I see DL, OL, OLB, WR and RB as far greater needs than a questionable QB who might be a decent to good H-Back. If the character issues are so bad on this team that they need to bring in a 'high character" guy with "a good work ethic" and no definable position then this team is doomed. The coaches are hired to make sure the players are accountable for their on field performances.

If you can convince me that Tebow has the frame and hands to develop into a great TE then I might agree that he has a 2nd round grade for the Pats otherwise they tend to draft their H-Backs much later.
Okay. I just think he's going somewhere in the first two rounds and since the Pats had four picks I used one of them as a placeholder for Tebow.Give them somone like Tyson Alualu or Corey Wootton if you like.

Edit: One more thing - I don't know if Brady plays as long as we think he will.
Yes, I have some concerns about that myself. Thanks for doing these mocks and replying to our responses!!!

 
Yes, I have some concerns about that myself. Thanks for doing these mocks and replying to our responses!!!
No problem, and good discussion. :thumbup:I like mocks that encourage talk about "what if". Knocking mocks for their inaccuracy seems a bit silly as they're all going to be inaccurate to some degree - especially if you're just some guy at a computer like I am. I doubt Mike Mayock and I share too many numbers in our cell phones!
 
If Jacksonville gets Berry at #10, drinks are me boys!

I dig the mock, but if I had to find one player I think you are off target on it would be Pierre-Paul. Someone is going to fall in love with his potential and draft him much earlier than you have him projected. Right or wrong, it happens every year. I actually think it's under 50/50 that he makes it to the Jaguars at #10.

 
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As a Cowboys fan I would not want Dez in the 1st unless we were trading Roy for an OL.
I would agree with that. But you're not going to get much for Roy.Bryant doesn't sound like a guy that I'd want on my team either. But Jerry's done crazier things and seems to see something in him. The Cowboys are always tough to mock for.
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If Jacksonville gets Berry at #10, drinks are me boys!I dig the mock, but if I had to find one player I think you are off target on it would be Pierre-Paul. Someone is going to fall in love with his potential and draft him much earlier than you have him projected. Right or wrong, it happens every year. I actually think it's under 50/50 that he makes it to the Jaguars at #10.
The Jags would take him even though they signed Kampmann and have Harvey, who even though he's not a great pass rusher he has proven decent against the run?What kind of defense are they runing down there anyway? I thought they were trying to transition to a 3-4 at one time.
 
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Wadsworth said:
If Jacksonville gets Berry at #10, drinks are me boys!I dig the mock, but if I had to find one player I think you are off target on it would be Pierre-Paul. Someone is going to fall in love with his potential and draft him much earlier than you have him projected. Right or wrong, it happens every year. I actually think it's under 50/50 that he makes it to the Jaguars at #10.
The Jags would take him even though they signed Kampmann and have Harvey, who even though he's not a great pass rusher he has proven decent against the run?What kind of defense are they runing down there anyway? I thought they were trying to transition to a 3-4 at one time.
The Jaguars want to trade back to try recover the 2nd round pick they gave up last year to draft Derek Cox, beyond that I'm not sure of anything at this point. When Shack Harris was there I use to be able to get friend or a friend type hints at who they are looking at but so far Gene Smith is running a very tight ship. I can tell you that I expect Gene Smith will draft a DE at the #10 if he grades out as BAP. Last year the Jags signed Tra Thomas and drafted Monroe in the first but had no problem taking Britton in the second in spite little to no need at the position with Tony Pashos on roster at RT. With the early picks Gene Smith is all about strengthening the roster, not filling holes. The one thing you should keep in mind when mocking a Jags pick is that Clean Gene is very big on character. All of the players he drafted last year had clean records off the field, where captains on the field, and graduated. As far as formation they are back to a straight 4-3 defense now. They might mix things up with running the 3-3-5 nickle package from time to time like they have in the past, but that's likely not going to happen often and would be the only 3 man fronts they'll run.
 
Honda said:
Foosball God said:
If he is available at the #2 pick and the Lions don't draft Suh I may very well break multiple things in my home.
Bah. Save your things. As good as he is (and he really is) DTs aren't worth spending a #2 pick on especially when your franchise QB is getting killed because his starting LT is Jeff Backus.
I very much agree, but the valid question remains... How good is Okung really? If he has a franchise LT grade, no problem they have to take him. Anything short of that and they have a dilemma on their hands.
 
Honda said:
Round 2

24. Green Bay - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers

A classic "looks like Jane Tarzan plays like Tarzan Janeplayer that would be very good if the light turns on.
IIRC - Wasn't he a mini-version in the Cody - Andre Smith physique at the combine? If so, I've corrected the statement above.

Listening to NFL Radio Network a couple weeks back, The radio pundits were saying that Davis is not going to fall very far in RD1. His tape is just much much better than what was seen at the combine drills.

 
Honda said:
Round 2

24. Green Bay - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers

A classic "looks like Jane Tarzan plays like Tarzan Janeplayer that would be very good if the light turns on.
IIRC - Wasn't he a mini-version in the Cody - Andre Smith physique at the combine? If so, I've corrected the statement above.

Listening to NFL Radio Network a couple weeks back, The radio pundits were saying that Davis is not going to fall very far in RD1. His tape is just much much better than what was seen at the combine drills.
As a Rutgers homer, I think the original statement on Davis was correct. He was pretty inconsistent -- better talent than what he showed on the field.
 
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Round 2

24. Green Bay - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers

A classic "looks like Jane Tarzan plays like Tarzan Janeplayer that would be very good if the light turns on.
IIRC - Wasn't he a mini-version in the Cody - Andre Smith physique at the combine? If so, I've corrected the statement above.

Listening to NFL Radio Network a couple weeks back, The radio pundits were saying that Davis is not going to fall very far in RD1. His tape is just much much better than what was seen at the combine drills.
As a Rutgers homer, I think the original statement on Davis was correct. He was pretty inconsistent -- better talent than what he showed on the field.
I guess I wasn't clear, it was a joke on having man-boobs.

I don't remember how flabby Davis was while running his 40, I just recall it wasn't pretty.

 
If the Bucs end up with Suh, Dunlap, and Benn I'll be doing backflips.

I know this didn't project trades, but with there being a break after the first round I see no way that the Rams keep the first pick in the 2nd. Thinking they will have tons, and I mean tons of trade offers overnight.

 
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Honda said:
thecatch said:
Honda said:
Multiple Scores said:
I like the 49ers picks. One note though is Nate Clements and Walt Harris are the starters, Dre Bly is not a starter.
Hard to call Clements a starter when he was benched last year. But your point is well taken.
Actually its Clements and Spencer. Harris and Bly are unlikely to be resigned.
So what we're saying is that they could use some new cornerbacks. :banned:
Tarel Brown is a solid nickel back that will challenge Clements. Spencer had a very good season. Thats about it; I think the team goes CB in rd 1-2.IMO Haden goes 13 and Brown 17 if the draft fell this way.
 
Speaking of "Honda"...a complete "swing and a miss" on the Browns!
Okay. Who?
We run a 3-4 and have two excellent tackles. Another backup, albeit a good one, makes no sense. We also have added Ben Watson, presumably as a starter, pushing the new guy (what's his name, dammit?) back to #2 and Royal back to #3. Very unlikely to see a TE taken in this draft, let alone in round 2.The team needs help at QB, in the secondary, on the right side of the O-line, at DE, and could use a burner at WR. It looks as though the only QB they want will go #1. If the Rams pass on Bradford, look for the Browns to try to move up to get him. Otherwise, they might hold for Berry. If Berry is gone, trading down is most likely. THEY WILL NOT DRAFT TEBOW IN THE FIRST TWO ROUNDS. I expect to see them trade down a few (maybe many) spots and select a db or de in the first. I also expect to see them go OG/OT in round 2 and QB-project in the third.
 

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