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Andy D's final mock until after the combine - ***Official (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

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Round 1

1. Miami - Chris Long, DE - Virginia

Yes. I know they should "trade down for more picks". But I can't see any teams in the top ten giving up much to move into the #1 spot.

So, the choice is either of the Long's or Dorsey. Dorsey is the default pick, but I think it would be tough to spend #1 overall money on a DT.

And it seems every year that a DT is talked about in the top 5 but then falters. Chris Long is a stud and will be a cornerstone for the 'Fins no matter if they run the 3-4 and 4-3.

2. St. Louis - Jake Long, OT - Michigan

Jake has been overanalyzed. He's near the same level as Joe Thomas and that pick worked out tremendously for the Browns. Orlando Pace can't stay healthy and the Rams have to do something to protect their investment in Bulger and Jackson. The combo of Long and Barron will go a long ways in improving the Rams offense.

3. Atlanta - Glenn Dorsey, DT - LSU

Why not a QB? Because none of them are good enough to go at the #3 spot. And there are rumors that Ryan said he didn't want to play for the Falcons.

Dorsey will do for Atlanta what Okoye did for Houston - get them more out of their previous year's #1 pick.

4. Oakland - Sedrick Ellis, DT - USC

A lot of people like him MORE than Dorsey. With Sapp retiring and the Raiders on the verge of having a dominant defense this seems like a no-brainer, even with McFadden on the board. If they can get more out of their d-line, they could have a top 10 defense next year. And in the AFC West, you have to stop the run.

56 tackles/12.5 for loss, 8.5 sacks, 6 deflections, 2 fumble recoveries and 1 forced = STUD.

5. Kansas City - Ryan Clady, OT - Boise St.

It's obvious that what was a strength is now a weakness for the Chiefs. Much like Levi Brown (who actually turned out pretty well for the Cards), Clady gets to move up the boards to a team that has an extreme need at the position. Clady is an excellent run blocker.

6. New York Jets - Darren McFadden, RB - Arkansas

The second biggest question of the draft (who does Miami take being number one) is "where does DMac go?" Much like the Vikings with Chester Taylor, the Jets have an above average back in Thomas Jones. But also like the Vikings, rolling with Jones meant that there were yards left on the table. I personally don't believe McFadden is in AP's league, but he's still an electric player that could really help whoever ends up playing QB for the Jets.

7. New England - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB - Ohio St.

I know that the Pats don't take linebackers early. And I know that they don't take "insert position here" either. But their backers are getting up there in age and, really, what DO they need? Gholston is a physical specimen and a terrific pass rusher.

8. Baltimore - Matt Ryan, QB - Boston College

McNair is done. Boller hasn't shown anything and at this stage he isn't likely to. Ryan has a gunslinger mentality and can get reckless with the ball, but his leadership skills seem highly developed. Guys love playing with him and BC wouldn't have gotten far without him. A new regime would likely want to start fresh at the position and I think Ryan, for all his question marks, seems like the QB that can win the soonest and has great upside.

9. Cincinnati - Calais Campbell, DE - Miami

I'm not a fan of Campbell, but I seem to be in the minority. After a monstrous sophomore year, he was very quiet this year. Whether or not that's due to the talent around him is a good question.

He's worth the risk to the poor Bengals defense if he can play like he did a year ago.

10. New Orleans - James Laurinaitis, ILB - Ohio St.

They only got 70 tackles from Simoneau this year. That's ridiculously low. Laurinaitis is a leader the Saints can build their defense around. I'm expecting the Saints to be one of the big players in the CB free agent market (Clements or Trufant would be expensive but phenominal) since one or two moves on defense puts them right "there" in the NFC.

11. Buffalo - Malcolm Jenkins, CB - Ohio St.

They missed Clements a lot more than I thought they would. In a division with the Patriots, you need guys that can cover. They do still need a #2 receiver, but the young guys are up and coming. What a remarkable job the Bills staff did considering all the injuries they had.

12. Denver - Kenny Phillips, S - Miami

Where to start? The Broncos defense has holes all over the place. Since the safety spot is a both a glaring weakness and in limited supply, Denver would be wise to go this direction first. Seems better to me to go S/LB than LB/S with their first two picks.

Their d-line still needs help, but hopefully for them Moss can come back from injury and contribute and Dumerville can continue to develop.

13. Carolina - Sam Baker, OT - USC

Injury concerns abound, but there's no disputing that Baker started for a powerhouse program for four years. He should fit well with the ZBS scheme in Carolina.

14. Chicago - Jeff Otah, OT - Pitt

This season shows what happens when a team gets old fast. Their o-line is in line for major turnover in the next couple years.

15. Detroit - Mike Jenkins, CB - USF

Too bad the Lions didn't take my advice and reach for Patrick Willis at #2 last year. This year, the needs on defense are still there with corner being the foremost concern. Jenkins plays both the pass and the run very well.

16. Arizona - Quentin Groves, DE - Aubrun

I expect that the Cards will continue trending toward the 3-4 and Groves has just the right size and explosiveness to fit the pass rushing OLB that they need.

17. Minnesota - Derrick Harvey, DE - Florida

After all the draft picks - Udeze, James, Robison, Edwards - the Vikings STILL don't have a pass rush. Harvey isn't my favorite player, but probably the best option at this point for the position. I'd prefer DeSean Jackson but I doubt the Vikes go WR in the first.

18. Houston - Rashard Mendenhall, RB - Illinois

Mendenhall or Stewart? Coin flip goes Mendenhall. He just seems more like the "one cut" style of back that the Texans run.

19. Philadelphia - Fred Davis, TE - USC

Too early for a TE, but if they wait until the 2nd, they might not get him. LJ Smith will be gone and the TE position is very important to the Eagle offense.

20. Tampa Bay - Keith Rivers, OLB - USC

Derrick Brooks can't play forever. Returning to school was a good move for Rivers and he could go much higher than this.

21. Washington - Kentwan Balmer, DT - UNC

They got better play from the position as the year progressed, but depth would be helpful especially in a division that runs the ball as much as the NFC East does.

22. Dallas - Aqib Talib - CB, Kansas

Really made a name for himself this year and came through with a stellar bowl performance. Can contribute on special teams.

23. Seattle - Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

The en vogue pick that really does make a lot of sense. Alexander seems to be wearing down and Stewart fits the role perfectly.

24. Pittsburgh - Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

The Steelers offensive line will likely implode this offseason. Williams has played well, if a bit up and down, and could really improve the LT spot.

25. Tennessee - Malcolm Kelly, WR - Oklahoma

They cannot continue with the lack of talent at the WR spot. Young isn't the greatest passer, but his WR corps isn't doing him any favors either. Kelly could use another year in school and will likely take it.

26. New York Giants - Dan Connor, OLB - Penn St.

Converting DE's to LB's is never a good sign. Connor might be better than Posluszny, who was looking terrific until he got hurt.

27. San Diego - Gosder Cherilus, OT - Boston College

Cherilus played very well at RT his first three years but struggled a bit this year playing on the left side. With McNeill playing LT, Cherilus will be a major upgrade to Olivea on the right.

28. Jacksonville - DeSean Jackson, WR - California

Another first round WR for the Jags? So be it since the guys they've drafted haven't exactly panned out. Jackson is just the type of guy they need to open up the offense vertically and give Drew and Taylor better opportunities.

29. Green Bay - Antoine Cason, CB - Arizona

A potential first rounder last year, Cason showed flashes of brilliance this year. He started all 46 games of his career and is a good understudy for the aging Harris and Woodson.

30. San Francisco - Andre Caldwell, WR - Florida

San Francisco's offense ranks dead last in several offensive categories. Caldwell is speedier than guys like Limas Sweed and Early Doucet and gets the nod from me since those guys remind me a lot of Dwayne Jarrett.

31. Dallas - Adarius Bowman, WR - Oklahoma St.

Crayton is resigned, but Glenn and Owens aren't going to be around forever. Bowman is a big, super productive target that missed three games but still caught 57 balls this year.

Round 2

2.01. Miami - Brian Brohm, QB - Louisville

2.02. St. Louis - Ali Highsmith, OLB - LSU

2.03. Oakland - Marcus Griffin, S - Texas

2.04. Kansas City - Tracy Porter, CB - Indiana

2.05. Atlanta - Andre Woodson, QB - Kentucky

2.06. New York Jets - Frank Okam, DT - Texas

2.07. Baltimore - Terrell Thomas, CB - USC

2.08. San Francisco - Early Doucet, WR - LSU

2.09. New Orleans - DeJaun Tribble, CB - Boston College

2.10. Buffalo - Limas Sweed, WR - Texas

2.11. Denver - Red Bryant, DT - Texas A&M

2.12. Carolina - Lawrence Jackson, DE - USC

2.13. Chicago - Harry Douglas, WR - Louisville

2.14. Detroit - Chris Ellis, DE - Virginia Tech

2.15. Cincinnati - Philip Wheeler, OLB - Georgia Tech

2.16. Minnesota - Mario Manningham, WR - Michigan

2.17. Atlanta - Ray Rice, RB - Rutgers

2.18. Philadelphia - Charles Godfrey, CB - Iowa

2.19. Arizona - Jamaal Charles, RB - Texas

2.20. Washington - D.J. Hall, WR - Alabama

2.21. Tampa Bay - DeMario Pressley, DT - NCSt.

2.22. Seattle - John Carlson, TE - Notre Dame

2.23. Pittsburgh - Roy Schuening, OG - Oregon St.

2.24. Tennessee - Chevis Jackson, CB - LSU

2.25. New York Giants - Beau Bell, OLB - UNLV

2.26. Cleveland - Dre Moore, DE - Maryland

2.27. Jacksonville - Tavares Gooden, OLB - Miami (FL)

2.28. Miami - Earl Bennett, WR - Vanderbilt

2.29. Indianapolis - Xavier Adibi, OLB - Virginia Tech

2.30. Dallas - Chris Johnson, RB - ECU

2.31. Green Bay - Tashard Choice, RB - Georgia Tech

2.32. New England - Jonathan Goff, ILB - Vanderbilt

 
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Wow. Very nice.

I was just gonna post mine but while I was finishing it you posted this. I think I'll hold on to it for a couple days.

But I would be suprised to see Brohm fall to the 2nd. I have him going to the Ravens with the 1.8.

 
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a lot of people seem to have fallen in love with Stewart goin to Seattle. If houston picks RB in 1st round, why would they take Medenhall over stewart?

 
By team..

Miami -

Chris Long, DE - Virginia

Brian Brohm, QB - Louisville

Earl Bennett, WR - Vanderbilt

St. Louis -

Jake Long, OT - Michigan

Ali Highsmith, OLB - LSU

Atlanta -

Glenn Dorsey, DT - LSU

Andre Woodson, QB - Kentucky

Ray Rice, RB - Rutgers

Oakland -

Sedrick Ellis, DT - USC

Marcus Griffin, S - Texas

Kansas City -

Ryan Clady, OT - Boise St.

Tracy Porter, CB - Indiana

New York Jets -

Darren McFadden, RB - Arkansas

Frank Okam, DT - Texas

Baltimore -

Matt Ryan, QB - Boston College

Terrell Thomas, CB - USC

San Francisco -

Andre Caldwell, WR - Florida

Early Doucet, WR - LSU

Cincinnati -

Calais Campbell, DE - Miami

Philip Wheeler, OLB - Georgia Tech

New Orleans -

James Laurinaitis, ILB - Ohio St.

DeJaun Tribble, CB - Boston College

Buffalo -

Malcolm Jenkins, CB - Ohio St.

Limas Sweed, WR - Texas

Denver -

Kenny Phillips, S - Miami

Red Bryant, DT - Texas A&M

Carolina -

Jeff Otah, OT - Pitt

Lawrence Jackson, DE - USC

Chicago -

Sam Baker, OT - USC

Harry Douglas, WR - Louisville

Detroit -

Mike Jenkins, CB - USF

Chris Ellis, DE - Virginia Tech

Arizona -

Quentin Groves, DE - Aubrun

Jamaal Charles, RB - Texas

Minnesota -

Derrick Harvey, DE - Florida

Mario Manningham, WR - Michigan

Houston -

Rashard Mendenhall, RB - Illinois

Philadelphia -

Fred Davis, TE - USC

Charles Godfrey, CB - Iowa

Washington -

Kentwan Balmer, DT - UNC

D.J. Hall, WR - Alabama

Tampa Bay -

Keith Rivers, OLB - USC

DeMario Pressley, DT - NCSt.

Dallas -

Adarius Bowman, WR - Oklahoma St.

Leodis McKelvin, CB - Troy

Chris Johnson, RB - ECU

Seattle -

Jonathan Stewart, RB - Oregon

John Carlson, TE - Notre Dame

Pittsburgh -

Chris Williams, OT - Vanderbilt

Roy Schuening, OG - Oregon St.

Tennessee -

Malcolm Kelly, WR - Oklahoma

Chevis Jackson, CB - LSU

New York Giants -

Dan Connor, OLB - Penn St.

Beau Bell, OLB - UNLV

Cleveland -

Dre Moore, DE - Maryland

San Diego -

Gosder Cherilus, OT - Boston College

Jacksonville -

DeSean Jackson, WR - California

Tavares Gooden, OLB - Miami (FL)

Indianapolis -

Xavier Adibi, OLB - Virginia Tech

Green Bay -

Antoine Cason, CB - Arizona

Tashard Choice, RB - Georgia Tech

New England -

Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB - Ohio St.

Jonathan Goff, ILB - Vanderbilt

 
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Interesting...

I don't see Ryan going that high, nor do I foresee that many WRs taken in the first this year... but interesting nonetheless.

 
The Giants are in such desperate need of help in the secondary that I would be very surprised/disappointed if they didn't take a CB or Safety with at least one of their first 2 picks.

 
2 teams that might consider QB's in round 1: Carolina and Chicago....depending upon off season FA for Chicago ..

tex

 
a lot of people seem to have fallen in love with Stewart goin to Seattle. If houston picks RB in 1st round, why would they take Medenhall over stewart?
I remember being the first to mock Stewart to Seattle (anywhere that I saw anyway). :thumbdown:I don't know why Mendenhall over Stewart. Just call it a hunch.
 
Interesting...I don't see Ryan going that high, nor do I foresee that many WRs taken in the first this year... but interesting nonetheless.
The QBs are tough to mock. None of them are all that great, IMO. As to the WRs, I can agree, although I have them toward the bottom of the 1st. About the only one that I'd say would be a lock 1st rounder would be Kelly.
The Giants are in such desperate need of help in the secondary that I would be very surprised/disappointed if they didn't take a CB or Safety with at least one of their first 2 picks.
But there are times you have to go BPA. And where the Giants draft, I didn't like the CBs remaining.Almost all the safeties suck.
2 teams that might consider QB's in round 1: Carolina and Chicago....depending upon off season FA for Chicago ..tex
Yes. I had Woodson going to the Panthers until I decided to take him out of the 1st entirely. Which I was really reluctant to do, since I really do like him. I considered a QB for the Bears as well. The problem is that once you get past the first dozen or so teams, QB is often not the most pressing need, so guys have a tendency to fall.
 
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DT is one position that I can virtually guarantee you the Redskins won't draft in the first round given the emergence of Montgomery and Golston who they drafted two years ago. In rough order of priority, they need:

OL (best available)

LDE

S

CB

OLB

WR

What they really need is to stockpile depth, so I could see them trading down from 1.20 for more picks, and starting off with a guy like Lawrence Jackson or one of the OL's.

 
San Francisco -

Andre Caldwell, WR - Florida

Early Doucet, WR - LSU

I think SF's problems go beyond WR. Do they really need 2 in this draft? Battle is a solid slot/#2 guy and DJack fell into the first year in a new system issue. I can see them taking 1 but not 2 wrs.

 
DT is one position that I can virtually guarantee you the Redskins won't draft in the first round given the emergence of Montgomery and Golston who they drafted two years ago. In rough order of priority, they need:

OL (best available)

LDE

S

CB

OLB

WR

What they really need is to stockpile depth, so I could see them trading down from 1.20 for more picks, and starting off with a guy like Lawrence Jackson or one of the OL's.
Noted. Interestingly, Lawrence Jackson was actually in the Redskins spot for a really long time in the rough draft version.
 
San Francisco - Andre Caldwell, WR - Florida Early Doucet, WR - LSUI think SF's problems go beyond WR. Do they really need 2 in this draft? Battle is a solid slot/#2 guy and DJack fell into the first year in a new system issue. I can see them taking 1 but not 2 wrs.
If they had three picks, they could take three. DJack fell into the "I'm always injured and am a shell of my former self" issue.But you're right. I wasn't happy with them taking two, but when the talent was left on the board, I thought I'd go with it. When you're 32nd in the league in just about all major offensive categories, nothing should be off the table.I nearly had them take a QB - one of Brennan or Ainge.
 
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Kelly is no lock to leave yet...I sure hope he doesn't! With the team OU has returning next year I really hope he sticks around, but I was hoping the same for Peterson and we saw how that worked out.

Perhaps AD can convince Minny to draft him at 17? :shrug: That sure would be sweet!!!

 
I really don't think the NYG are going to take 2 OLBs with their first 2 picks and I don't think they were necessarily the BPA either. We will have to agree to disagree I guess.

 
San Francisco - Andre Caldwell, WR - Florida Early Doucet, WR - LSUI think SF's problems go beyond WR. Do they really need 2 in this draft? Battle is a solid slot/#2 guy and DJack fell into the first year in a new system issue. I can see them taking 1 but not 2 wrs.
If they had three picks, they could take three. DJack fell into the "I'm always injured and am a shell of my former self" issue.But you're right. I wasn't happy with them taking two, but when the talent was left on the board, I thought I'd go with it. When you're 32nd in the league in just about all major offensive categories, nothing should be off the table.I nearly had them take a QB - one of Brennan or Ainge.
Heck I agree and as a fan of frank gore they need to be able to open the offense so he has room to run. DJack is a shell of himself so a true # 1 would be improtant to have.
 
I really don't think the NYG are going to take 2 OLBs with their first 2 picks and I don't think they were necessarily the BPA either. We will have to agree to disagree I guess.
I suppose so. I guess it came down to me really liking Connor in the first and getting a little bored with the 2nd. :shrug:
 
Kelly is no lock to leave yet...I sure hope he doesn't! With the team OU has returning next year I really hope he sticks around, but I was hoping the same for Peterson and we saw how that worked out.Perhaps AD can convince Minny to draft him at 17? :shrug: That sure would be sweet!!!
Yeah, I just threw him in there for kicks. There wasn't really any rhyme or reason to who I figured was staying/going.
 
I really don't think the NYG are going to take 2 OLBs with their first 2 picks and I don't think they were necessarily the BPA either. We will have to agree to disagree I guess.
I suppose so. I guess it came down to me really liking Connor in the first and getting a little bored with the 2nd. :mellow:
I can definitely get on board with Connor in the first, but this is looking like a potentially very deep CB class and there are a few guys I didn't see in your mock. Talib and Reggie Smith are a couple of examples (both are juniors). Also, we will have to see with the safeties. If Courtney Greene goes pro I think he could be a good pick for the Giants at the end of the 2nd round. They need CBs more than safeties, though, so if a good CB is available they will probably take one. It's hard to tell exactly who will be available at this point since a lot of the top players will be juniors.
 
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It's kinda funny. I've been working on a mock for a little bit and when I was finished with it I checked the board and saw this one. I'll hold on to mine for a couple days and then post it.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
B Maverick said:
San Francisco - Andre Caldwell, WR - Florida Early Doucet, WR - LSUI think SF's problems go beyond WR. Do they really need 2 in this draft? Battle is a solid slot/#2 guy and DJack fell into the first year in a new system issue. I can see them taking 1 but not 2 wrs.
If they had three picks, they could take three. DJack fell into the "I'm always injured and am a shell of my former self" issue.But you're right. I wasn't happy with them taking two, but when the talent was left on the board, I thought I'd go with it. When you're 32nd in the league in just about all major offensive categories, nothing should be off the table.I nearly had them take a QB - one of Brennan or Ainge.
I think with BY out the door...Marques Douglas getting older....and the meh production from the DTs, DL is a lock for one of the first two picks.OG might be an issue as well, if Larry Allen doesn't come back...and Justin Smiley is allowed to leave as a UFA (hello Denver).I understand the need for 2 WRs, but the team remains high on Jason Hill, last year's 3rd.I'd go DE/WR or WR/DE :shrug:
 
I would hate McFadden going to the Jets...someone please move up and get him!!!

7. New England - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB - Ohio St.

I think it will be either Gholston or Laurinaitis. The Pats could look for a CB in this draft if they can not secure Samuels. He met all of the criteria set and will not be franchised.

 
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i just noticed that you dont have Felix Jones drafted in your mock. Is this because you dont think hes going to declare for the draft?

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
RC94 said:
I really don't think the NYG are going to take 2 OLBs with their first 2 picks and I don't think they were necessarily the BPA either. We will have to agree to disagree I guess.
I suppose so. I guess it came down to me really liking Connor in the first and getting a little bored with the 2nd. :rolleyes:
I can definitely get on board with Connor in the first, but this is looking like a potentially very deep CB class and there are a few guys I didn't see in your mock. Talib and Reggie Smith are a couple of examples (both are juniors). Also, we will have to see with the safeties. If Courtney Greene goes pro I think he could be a good pick for the Giants at the end of the 2nd round. They need CBs more than safeties, though, so if a good CB is available they will probably take one. It's hard to tell exactly who will be available at this point since a lot of the top players will be juniors.
i just noticed that you dont have Felix Jones drafted in your mock. Is this because you dont think hes going to declare for the draft?
Talib, Reggie Smith, and Feli Jones were all left off because I guessed arbitrarily that they'll stay in school.
 
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Jets move up to the third pick in the second round.
Are you sure? They finished with one more win than Atl/KC/Oak. I thought the rule was that teams in a tie rotated up in subsiquent rounds with the team that picked highest picking lowest the following round.
 
Great job - love McFadden to the JEts for the reasons in your last mock - getting him at #6 would be a steal for the JEts!

BTW - are you sure on the order of the 2nd rd? I read the teams with the same record at #3-#6 swap in the 2nd rd with he JEts moving from #6 to #3 in rd 2.

 
Finally people are starting to get the OLine issue in Pittsburgh.

But it had to reach an epic meltdown for outsiders to really notice it.

 
Great job - love McFadden to the JEts for the reasons in your last mock - getting him at #6 would be a steal for the JEts! BTW - are you sure on the order of the 2nd rd? I read the teams with the same record at #3-#6 swap in the 2nd rd with he JEts moving from #6 to #3 in rd 2.
No I'm not. I think that you're right though. I'll fix that up tomorrow.I'm not sure if I'd change the selection, although I'd be tempted to throw Woodson at them.
 
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Nice mock Andy. Some things I thought you might add/note

1.) IIRC there is a coinflip for spots 3-5. This will become a huge consideration for Atlanta/Oakland. Or for rights to Jake Long if he falls.

2.) Interesting you have Clady top-5. Fits the system perfectly. But where do you see this going if Loadholt declares. Do you think he is a better prospect overall?

3.) I wont gripe about the QB order as I see them in a similar order. But do you see that much of a gap b/w Ryan and Brohm? If so, why?

4.) The Bills pick is refreshing but IMO Kelly fills a need and does so with a much greater impact. Just my two cents.

5.) Nitpick but you might want to swtich Otah/Baker. Baker has all his value in a ZBS system where he can come in immediately as a LT. With two tackles headed for FA, Carolina is a much better fit for him, albeit a bit high in relation to his actual value, but he works in that system effectively and immediately. OTOH, Otah is much better suited for a power running system where he can be groomed to fill either position and gives the Bears flexibility to move either Tait or Miller to the other tackle position. IMO that may be a 2 for 1 gain. Like you, I like Otah a good deal. He's #3 on my board behind Long and Clady.

6.) Is Arizona moving permanently to the 3-4? If so, I like Groves here. John Stewart should gets some looks here as well.

7.) One gripe here. I hate the Jaguars pick.

 
Looks good overall Andy. Can I get your thoughts on a few specific players?

Fred Davis- This seems to be a pretty weak TE class overall and while I agree he is the best of the group, I don't see him going in the 1st, especially that high.

Andre Caldwell- as an SEC fan and someone who has seen him a lot, he seems like just another UF WR to me, in the same group as R Caldwell, C Jackson, Hilliard, J Green, Taylor, Gaffney, Jacobs. All of these guys have disappointed as an NFL WR. What makes you think Caldwell will be different? Why ahead of Sweed and Doucet?

Brohm/Woodson- why the drop to the 2nd?

Harry Douglas- had a great senior season at UofL and surpassed Urrutia as the lead WR. I love him and his future potential, but I don't think I have seen him this high yet.

 
Nice mock Andy. Some things I thought you might add/note1.) IIRC there is a coinflip for spots 3-5. This will become a huge consideration for Atlanta/Oakland. Or for rights to Jake Long if he falls.
Yeah. This one seemed most interesting to me.
2.) Interesting you have Clady top-5. Fits the system perfectly. But where do you see this going if Loadholt declares. Do you think he is a better prospect overall?
It will be a tossup, IMO. I think I'd still give the edge to Clady.
3.) I wont gripe about the QB order as I see them in a similar order. But do you see that much of a gap b/w Ryan and Brohm? If so, why?
I don't see there being as much of a gap talent wise as I do needs wise. I think the #2 QB is going to experience the "Brady Quinn Effect" again this year. He's good, but teams at 12+ typically have needs other than a QB.
4.) The Bills pick is refreshing but IMO Kelly fills a need and does so with a much greater impact. Just my two cents.
Kelly was option #2.
5.) Nitpick but you might want to swtich Otah/Baker. Baker has all his value in a ZBS system where he can come in immediately as a LT. With two tackles headed for FA, Carolina is a much better fit for him, albeit a bit high in relation to his actual value, but he works in that system effectively and immediately. OTOH, Otah is much better suited for a power running system where he can be groomed to fill either position and gives the Bears flexibility to move either Tait or Miller to the other tackle position. IMO that may be a 2 for 1 gain. Like you, I like Otah a good deal. He's #3 on my board behind Long and Clady.
I think you might be right. I'm not sure what I was thinking there. I may switch those around.
6.) Is Arizona moving permanently to the 3-4? If so, I like Groves here. John Stewart should gets some looks here as well.
It was my assumption that they're going to continue trending to the 3-4. Jon Stewart and Ray Rice both warrant consideration
7.) One gripe here. I hate the Jaguars pick.
Really? I would love that pick if I'm a Jags fan. I think their WR corps is still weak. Maybe it's more of a consistency issue.
 
Looks good overall Andy. Can I get your thoughts on a few specific players?Fred Davis- This seems to be a pretty weak TE class overall and while I agree he is the best of the group, I don't see him going in the 1st, especially that high.
Assuming that LJ Smith leaves, that style of offense really needs to have a WR-type tight end to make it work. Since the Eagles don't like drafting a WR in the first (a mistake, IMO) I think this helps out their offense.
Andre Caldwell- as an SEC fan and someone who has seen him a lot, he seems like just another UF WR to me, in the same group as R Caldwell, C Jackson, Hilliard, J Green, Taylor, Gaffney, Jacobs. All of these guys have disappointed as an NFL WR. What makes you think Caldwell will be different? Why ahead of Sweed and Doucet?
I agree and had a hard time putting him there, but I'm not a big Limas Sweed guy and given the year he had, I think that Doucet could drop. Neither are as explosive as Caldwell. Sweed reminds me a lot of the Mike Williams/Dwayne Jarrett type.
Brohm/Woodson- why the drop to the 2nd?
More because of need than talent. It's highly likely that if they do drop to the bottom of the 1st round that someone will trade up to take one.
Harry Douglas- had a great senior season at UofL and surpassed Urrutia as the lead WR. I love him and his future potential, but I don't think I have seen him this high yet.
He has the distinction of being a little unique compared to the other WRs in the draft. If Berrian really does leave, Douglas would be a good replacement.
 
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Looks good overall Andy. Can I get your thoughts on a few specific players?Harry Douglas- had a great senior season at UofL and surpassed Urrutia as the lead WR. I love him and his future potential, but I don't think I have seen him this high yet.
He has the distinction of being a little unique compared to the other WRs in the draft. If Berrian really does leave, Douglas would be a good replacement.
Douglas could be similar to Lee Evans IMO. He will really surprise some people.
 
Keep the feedback coming fellas! Some of what I do is just to be different from the "other guys" (other sites and such) so that there can be different discussion from time to time.

I'm bored with Glenn Dorsey to the Dolphins, for example.

I like Sedrick Ellis to the Raiders, for another example.

I really don't like Campbell that high, but I know I'm in the minority. I'm not sold on Harvey yet either, but the Vikes still need a pass rush and I can't see them going WR in the 1st even though I'd love to see DeSean Jackson be the pick.

 
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I don't think Rashard Mendenhall will come out this year. I think he stays at U of I for his senior year, Just my opinion. I think Stewart would go ahead of him anyways if he did come out though. I think Stewart to Houston is a nice fit. I like the pick of my Rams and hope they go oline and linebacker and can resist going with Dorsey.

I think if Atl came out of the first two rounds Dorsey, Woodsen (my favorite Qb in this class) and Ray Rice they should be very happy with their draft early on :shrug:

 
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I don't think Rashard Mendenhall will come out this year. I think he stays at U of I for his senior year, Just my opinion. I think Stewart would go ahead of him anyways if he did come out though. I think Stewart to Houston is a nice fit.
I could have sworn that I'd read RM had already declared. :lmao: I think it's a coin flip between he and Stewart and both would be great for the Texans.
I like the pick of my Rams and hope they go oline and linebacker and can resist going with Dorsey.
Rams fans may burn down St. Louis if the team drafts ANOTHER defensive lineman in the first! :rant:
I think if Atl came out of the first two rounds Dorsey, Woodsen (my favorite Qb in this class) and Ray Rice they should be very happy with their draft early on :lmao:
I haven't received any responses to my inquiry into the Falcons GM job yet. :shrug:
 
Looks good overall Andy. Can I get your thoughts on a few specific players?Fred Davis- This seems to be a pretty weak TE class overall and while I agree he is the best of the group, I don't see him going in the 1st, especially that high.Andre Caldwell- as an SEC fan and someone who has seen him a lot, he seems like just another UF WR to me, in the same group as R Caldwell, C Jackson, Hilliard, J Green, Taylor, Gaffney, Jacobs. All of these guys have disappointed as an NFL WR. What makes you think Caldwell will be different? Why ahead of Sweed and Doucet?Brohm/Woodson- why the drop to the 2nd?Harry Douglas- had a great senior season at UofL and surpassed Urrutia as the lead WR. I love him and his future potential, but I don't think I have seen him this high yet.
I know your question wasn't directed at me but i'll take a stab at a few of these. Youre right about the weak class. Davis is essentially a one-trick pony. @ under 250 he's essentially a pass catcher only and while he's the best reciever of the bunch, he simply does not get the separation or block well enough to warrant a high selection or produce at a high level. Quality wise, this doesn't even sniff 2005 much less 2006. One guy that could emerge is Martellus Bennett. Great measurables, and a tenacious blocker. High profile high school basketball player that converted but is very eager to learn his position. He's a junior and probably will not declare.I like Harry douglas alot as a slot reciever, he should go right around where manningham goes. He may be a better overall prospect. 2-3 IMO.
 
I think the Cowboys could easily take Jonathan Stewart if he falls that far, I like him quite a bit and would love it as a fan. There second first round pick could be used to get a WR with Bowman likely still available or Limas Sweed. I might just be higher on Stewart than most but think that this could easily be another Steven Jackson situation of a really good back falling a lot farther in the draft than they should. The major issue with taking these two guys is that it will leave them in my opinion forced to address the CB at the end of round 2. Just my opinion.

 
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Jordy Nelson should be a first rounder. Perfect sandwich pick for SFO. IMO they don't need a burner, just a surehanded catcher to run those intermediate routes and allow Vernon Davis to be isolated in coverage. They have consistency issues with Lelie and Jackson, why not bring in a stabilizing force? IMO he complements the offense very well. With Jason Hill, VD, and Nelson going forward, the Niners have a explosive set of receivers.

 
Looks good overall Andy. Can I get your thoughts on a few specific players?Fred Davis- This seems to be a pretty weak TE class overall and while I agree he is the best of the group, I don't see him going in the 1st, especially that high.Andre Caldwell- as an SEC fan and someone who has seen him a lot, he seems like just another UF WR to me, in the same group as R Caldwell, C Jackson, Hilliard, J Green, Taylor, Gaffney, Jacobs. All of these guys have disappointed as an NFL WR. What makes you think Caldwell will be different? Why ahead of Sweed and Doucet?Brohm/Woodson- why the drop to the 2nd?Harry Douglas- had a great senior season at UofL and surpassed Urrutia as the lead WR. I love him and his future potential, but I don't think I have seen him this high yet.
I know your question wasn't directed at me but i'll take a stab at a few of these. Youre right about the weak class. Davis is essentially a one-trick pony. @ under 250 he's essentially a pass catcher only and while he's the best reciever of the bunch, he simply does not get the separation or block well enough to warrant a high selection or produce at a high level.
Sounds just like the report on Greg Olsen last year. It all comes down to what you want from your TE.
 
still don't think the jets take a RB. Mcfaddon is not Adrian Peterson and they have other needs. Nobody could run the ball behind those guards and tackles.

 
I know that Andy Reid doesnt like to pick WR's in the first round but Philly has a terrible hole at returner. Desean Jackson would be a great pick for them.

I love Gholston and Goff to the Pats.

 
a lot of people seem to have fallen in love with Stewart goin to Seattle. If houston picks RB in 1st round, why would they take Medenhall over stewart?
I remember being the first to mock Stewart to Seattle (anywhere that I saw anyway). :thumbup:I don't know why Mendenhall over Stewart. Just call it a hunch.
I dunno if I saw it on you rlist first but I've seen it a lot. In some Seahawks locals outlets there seems to be a big push for it as well. Seattle does like to take local boys too, Trufant and Stevens just recently. I haven't watched him play too much but what I saw in the bowl game highlights looked pretty sweet to me.
 
New Orleans -

James Laurinaitis, ILB - Ohio St.

DeJaun Tribble, CB - Boston College
I would plotz if the Saints went this way. Payton has said he's turning his attention to the defense in the draft. My only quibble is with Tribble. He's smallish at 5'9. He's aggressive - which Payton said he's after - but a tad on the wee side...
 
Looks good overall Andy. Can I get your thoughts on a few specific players?Fred Davis- This seems to be a pretty weak TE class overall and while I agree he is the best of the group, I don't see him going in the 1st, especially that high.Andre Caldwell- as an SEC fan and someone who has seen him a lot, he seems like just another UF WR to me, in the same group as R Caldwell, C Jackson, Hilliard, J Green, Taylor, Gaffney, Jacobs. All of these guys have disappointed as an NFL WR. What makes you think Caldwell will be different? Why ahead of Sweed and Doucet?Brohm/Woodson- why the drop to the 2nd?Harry Douglas- had a great senior season at UofL and surpassed Urrutia as the lead WR. I love him and his future potential, but I don't think I have seen him this high yet.
I know your question wasn't directed at me but i'll take a stab at a few of these. Youre right about the weak class. Davis is essentially a one-trick pony. @ under 250 he's essentially a pass catcher only and while he's the best reciever of the bunch, he simply does not get the separation or block well enough to warrant a high selection or produce at a high level.
Sounds just like the report on Greg Olsen last year. It all comes down to what you want from your TE.
I watched Dominque Byrd with Leinart throwing to him, and I'd take Fred Davis over him seven days a week. Davis is the real deal. He's not quite as athletic as the most elite NFL TE's, but I could see him being comparable to Cooley or Witten in the NFL. His hands and route running are outstanding and he's pretty good running after the catch too.
 

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