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Andy Reid needs to go (1 Viewer)

buccosfan

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Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin.

It's time for a change.

I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.

I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.

But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.

 
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
You'll regret it, I would only do it if you could put Fisher in his place. Giants fan hear and I respect the hell out of Reid. He makes gorument meals with 7-eleven ingredients!
 
I think it's pretty ridiculous to say that Reed needs to go because you don't see "fire". Also, posting this on the day his starting QB goes down seems a little suspicious as well.

 
you guys need to stop drinking the kool-aid. his time has run its course. they were losing this game WITH donovan mcnabb even if he doesn't get hurt.

they've stopped listening and he doesn't hold players accountable.

move on.

 
I don't think Andy Reid needs to go yet.... but I don't think that his job as head coach of the Eagles should not be considered a sure thing anymore. Reid has had some bad luck in his tenure....including season ending injuries to McNabb for three years now....but there is something I've never liked about Andy's play calling, his unwillingness to draft a good "gamekiller" RB and his insistence on the pass being the running game. Also, alot of times his teams seem to give games away that they should win and play their best football in the first quarter.

 
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buccosfan said:
hotdogcollars said:
:fishing: ummm, his name is buccos fan...hellllllloooo...
yeah, i'm a pirates fan. so what?
wow, i was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you didnt take it...so...would you rather go back to the Kotite days? Or perhaps the complete lack of cohesion under Rhodes? Maybe the outlaw years of Buddy Ryan...you know the years when they only won 1 playoff game.Seriously, i'm as sick about the loss and McNabbs injury as every other Philly fan, but Reid is the best thing that happened to the Eagles in a LONG time. They have more talent, lots of cap room, more stockpiled draft icks left, and better facilities than most of the teams in the league (top 8 at the very least). They will be in a position to win for at least the next 5 years assuming McNabb can come back healthy next year. And you'd like to throw that all away for who? Spurrier? Fassel? Fisher? No thanks
 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.
I see that same look on the 9-1 Tony Dungy face. I don't think they are calling for his head.Eagle fan needs to check themselves for a day or two then think about this.
 
It's not all Eagles fans buccos fan is speaking for. Andy makes questionable calls at times, as ALL coaches do! He is a great coach and puts Philly in a position to win or be competive every year. More often than not he has won with lineups with sub par players in it! Just because he seems to lack emotion and he is not animated does not mean he is a bad coach. Ask TO if he holds players accountable for their actions too!

 
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mbuehner said:
What was Reed thinking having McNabb blow out his ACL? Gotta question that kind of decision making.
When they pass the ball at such a high percentage of times, all the hits that McNabb took were bound to catch up to him. Unfortunately it did today.
 
I agree. It is time for a change in Philly. Not Morningweg tough.
no real change needed, at all. maybe a bruising back to take the load off westy and be able to run the clock out. thats it. that hurt us in too many games.i hope there is no knee-jerk reaction to our newly lost season. we'll be fine next year. patience people.
 
Agree that this team makes way too many stupid mental mistakes.

Terrible clock management, some awful play calls, dropped passes, dropped INTs, missed tackles, etc, etc.

Is it Reid's fault? Don't know if I can say that but as he says, it all starts with him.

Somethings got to change with this team, this seasons lost, lets right the ship before 07.

 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
With all due respect, this is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this board.
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+--------------+----------+		   | Reg. Season  | Playoffs |+----------+--------------+----------+| Year  TM |   W   L   T  |   W   L  |+----------+--------------+----------+| 1999 phi |   5  11   0  |   0   0  || 2000 phi |  11   5   0  |   1   1  || 2001 phi |  11   5   0  |   2   1  || 2002 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2003 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2004 phi |  13   3   0  |   2   1  || 2005 phi |   6  10   0  |   0   0  || 2006 phi |   5   5   0  |   0   0  |+----------+--------------+----------+| TOTALS   |  75  46   0  |   7   5  |+----------+--------------+----------+
That's his coaching record, among the best, if not the best in the league for that time span.
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+----------+--------- Offense --------------+-------- Defense --------------+----+|		  |- TOT --|--- Rush --|--- Pass --|- TOT--|--- Rush --|--- Pass --| OUT|| Year  TM |  PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD | PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD |  OF|+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+| 1999 phi |  25 30 19 17  9 30 30 31 31 24 | 22 25 29 28 13 20 21 16 10 20 | 31 || 2000 phi |  12 17 24 15  4 19  7 20 28 13 |  4 10 22 20 13 10 23 10  3  3 | 31 || 2001 phi |   9 18 23 14  8 31 18 19 21  4 |  2  7 19 18 16  3 16  4  3  2 | 31 || 2002 phi |   4 10  5  7  8 14 18 18 18  3 |  2  6  5  9 20  1 23 13  3  7 | 32 || 2003 phi |  11 17 25  9  4  2 25 18 14 22 |  7 22 22 22 23 17 28 16 11  6 | 32 || 2004 phi |   8  8 31 24 10 23  9  6  9  4 |  3 10 16 16 19 18 29 12  3  3 | 32 || 2005 phi |  18 15 30 28 17 20  3  8 25 16 | 27 23 28 21 10 21 14 21 24 26 | 32 || 2006 phi |   5  1 29  9  2 13  9  2  1  3 |  7 12 27 19 16  9 30  8  3  6 | 32 |+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+
And the defense is no good? They've been top-10 every year since his rookie coaching season except for last year when their entire team was on IR.Don't post ever again until you rescind your statements. Everyone is certainly titled to his opinion, but with the caveat that it has at least some quantum of support behind it.Are you really unhappy with one of the top offenses in the league and a defense that is one of the better units as well? Get real.
 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
With all due respect, this is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this board.
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+--------------+----------+		   | Reg. Season  | Playoffs |+----------+--------------+----------+| Year  TM |   W   L   T  |   W   L  |+----------+--------------+----------+| 1999 phi |   5  11   0  |   0   0  || 2000 phi |  11   5   0  |   1   1  || 2001 phi |  11   5   0  |   2   1  || 2002 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2003 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2004 phi |  13   3   0  |   2   1  || 2005 phi |   6  10   0  |   0   0  || 2006 phi |   5   5   0  |   0   0  |+----------+--------------+----------+| TOTALS   |  75  46   0  |   7   5  |+----------+--------------+----------+
That's his coaching record, among the best, if not the best in the league for that time span.
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+----------+--------- Offense --------------+-------- Defense --------------+----+|		  |- TOT --|--- Rush --|--- Pass --|- TOT--|--- Rush --|--- Pass --| OUT|| Year  TM |  PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD | PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD |  OF|+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+| 1999 phi |  25 30 19 17  9 30 30 31 31 24 | 22 25 29 28 13 20 21 16 10 20 | 31 || 2000 phi |  12 17 24 15  4 19  7 20 28 13 |  4 10 22 20 13 10 23 10  3  3 | 31 || 2001 phi |   9 18 23 14  8 31 18 19 21  4 |  2  7 19 18 16  3 16  4  3  2 | 31 || 2002 phi |   4 10  5  7  8 14 18 18 18  3 |  2  6  5  9 20  1 23 13  3  7 | 32 || 2003 phi |  11 17 25  9  4  2 25 18 14 22 |  7 22 22 22 23 17 28 16 11  6 | 32 || 2004 phi |   8  8 31 24 10 23  9  6  9  4 |  3 10 16 16 19 18 29 12  3  3 | 32 || 2005 phi |  18 15 30 28 17 20  3  8 25 16 | 27 23 28 21 10 21 14 21 24 26 | 32 || 2006 phi |   5  1 29  9  2 13  9  2  1  3 |  7 12 27 19 16  9 30  8  3  6 | 32 |+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+
And the defense is no good? They've been top-10 every year since his rookie coaching season except for last year when their entire team was on IR.Don't post ever again until you rescind your statements. Everyone is certainly titled to his opinion, but with the caveat that it has at least some quantum of support behind it.Are you really unhappy with one of the top offenses in the league and a defense that is one of the better units as well? Get real.
Can't argue withthe record but I'm starting to wonder if they won because of Andy or in spite of Andy.(Not to mention how he's also been completely outcoached in the playoffs multiple times)
 
You better know who is going to be your next HC before you fire the one you have....

 
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buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
With all due respect, this is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this board.
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+--------------+----------+		   | Reg. Season  | Playoffs |+----------+--------------+----------+| Year  TM |   W   L   T  |   W   L  |+----------+--------------+----------+| 1999 phi |   5  11   0  |   0   0  || 2000 phi |  11   5   0  |   1   1  || 2001 phi |  11   5   0  |   2   1  || 2002 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2003 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2004 phi |  13   3   0  |   2   1  || 2005 phi |   6  10   0  |   0   0  || 2006 phi |   5   5   0  |   0   0  |+----------+--------------+----------+| TOTALS   |  75  46   0  |   7   5  |+----------+--------------+----------+
That's his coaching record, among the best, if not the best in the league for that time span.
Code:
+----------+--------- Offense --------------+-------- Defense --------------+----+|		  |- TOT --|--- Rush --|--- Pass --|- TOT--|--- Rush --|--- Pass --| OUT|| Year  TM |  PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD | PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD |  OF|+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+| 1999 phi |  25 30 19 17  9 30 30 31 31 24 | 22 25 29 28 13 20 21 16 10 20 | 31 || 2000 phi |  12 17 24 15  4 19  7 20 28 13 |  4 10 22 20 13 10 23 10  3  3 | 31 || 2001 phi |   9 18 23 14  8 31 18 19 21  4 |  2  7 19 18 16  3 16  4  3  2 | 31 || 2002 phi |   4 10  5  7  8 14 18 18 18  3 |  2  6  5  9 20  1 23 13  3  7 | 32 || 2003 phi |  11 17 25  9  4  2 25 18 14 22 |  7 22 22 22 23 17 28 16 11  6 | 32 || 2004 phi |   8  8 31 24 10 23  9  6  9  4 |  3 10 16 16 19 18 29 12  3  3 | 32 || 2005 phi |  18 15 30 28 17 20  3  8 25 16 | 27 23 28 21 10 21 14 21 24 26 | 32 || 2006 phi |   5  1 29  9  2 13  9  2  1  3 |  7 12 27 19 16  9 30  8  3  6 | 32 |+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+
And the defense is no good? They've been top-10 every year since his rookie coaching season except for last year when their entire team was on IR.Don't post ever again until you rescind your statements. Everyone is certainly titled to his opinion, but with the caveat that it has at least some quantum of support behind it.Are you really unhappy with one of the top offenses in the league and a defense that is one of the better units as well? Get real.
Living in PHilly and listening to the sports talk shows, I can tell you that he is not in the minority of Eagles fans who want Reed out of there.
 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
With all due respect, this is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this board.
Code:
+--------------+----------+		   | Reg. Season  | Playoffs |+----------+--------------+----------+| Year  TM |   W   L   T  |   W   L  |+----------+--------------+----------+| 1999 phi |   5  11   0  |   0   0  || 2000 phi |  11   5   0  |   1   1  || 2001 phi |  11   5   0  |   2   1  || 2002 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2003 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2004 phi |  13   3   0  |   2   1  || 2005 phi |   6  10   0  |   0   0  || 2006 phi |   5   5   0  |   0   0  |+----------+--------------+----------+| TOTALS   |  75  46   0  |   7   5  |+----------+--------------+----------+
That's his coaching record, among the best, if not the best in the league for that time span.
Code:
+----------+--------- Offense --------------+-------- Defense --------------+----+|		  |- TOT --|--- Rush --|--- Pass --|- TOT--|--- Rush --|--- Pass --| OUT|| Year  TM |  PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD | PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD |  OF|+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+| 1999 phi |  25 30 19 17  9 30 30 31 31 24 | 22 25 29 28 13 20 21 16 10 20 | 31 || 2000 phi |  12 17 24 15  4 19  7 20 28 13 |  4 10 22 20 13 10 23 10  3  3 | 31 || 2001 phi |   9 18 23 14  8 31 18 19 21  4 |  2  7 19 18 16  3 16  4  3  2 | 31 || 2002 phi |   4 10  5  7  8 14 18 18 18  3 |  2  6  5  9 20  1 23 13  3  7 | 32 || 2003 phi |  11 17 25  9  4  2 25 18 14 22 |  7 22 22 22 23 17 28 16 11  6 | 32 || 2004 phi |   8  8 31 24 10 23  9  6  9  4 |  3 10 16 16 19 18 29 12  3  3 | 32 || 2005 phi |  18 15 30 28 17 20  3  8 25 16 | 27 23 28 21 10 21 14 21 24 26 | 32 || 2006 phi |   5  1 29  9  2 13  9  2  1  3 |  7 12 27 19 16  9 30  8  3  6 | 32 |+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+
And the defense is no good? They've been top-10 every year since his rookie coaching season except for last year when their entire team was on IR.Don't post ever again until you rescind your statements. Everyone is certainly titled to his opinion, but with the caveat that it has at least some quantum of support behind it.Are you really unhappy with one of the top offenses in the league and a defense that is one of the better units as well? Get real.
Living in PHilly and listening to the sports talk shows, I can tell you that he is not in the minority of Eagles fans who want Reed out of there.
That says alot about Philly fan.
 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
With all due respect, this is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this board.
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+--------------+----------+		   | Reg. Season  | Playoffs |+----------+--------------+----------+| Year  TM |   W   L   T  |   W   L  |+----------+--------------+----------+| 1999 phi |   5  11   0  |   0   0  || 2000 phi |  11   5   0  |   1   1  || 2001 phi |  11   5   0  |   2   1  || 2002 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2003 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2004 phi |  13   3   0  |   2   1  || 2005 phi |   6  10   0  |   0   0  || 2006 phi |   5   5   0  |   0   0  |+----------+--------------+----------+| TOTALS   |  75  46   0  |   7   5  |+----------+--------------+----------+
That's his coaching record, among the best, if not the best in the league for that time span.
Code:
+----------+--------- Offense --------------+-------- Defense --------------+----+|		  |- TOT --|--- Rush --|--- Pass --|- TOT--|--- Rush --|--- Pass --| OUT|| Year  TM |  PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD | PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD |  OF|+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+| 1999 phi |  25 30 19 17  9 30 30 31 31 24 | 22 25 29 28 13 20 21 16 10 20 | 31 || 2000 phi |  12 17 24 15  4 19  7 20 28 13 |  4 10 22 20 13 10 23 10  3  3 | 31 || 2001 phi |   9 18 23 14  8 31 18 19 21  4 |  2  7 19 18 16  3 16  4  3  2 | 31 || 2002 phi |   4 10  5  7  8 14 18 18 18  3 |  2  6  5  9 20  1 23 13  3  7 | 32 || 2003 phi |  11 17 25  9  4  2 25 18 14 22 |  7 22 22 22 23 17 28 16 11  6 | 32 || 2004 phi |   8  8 31 24 10 23  9  6  9  4 |  3 10 16 16 19 18 29 12  3  3 | 32 || 2005 phi |  18 15 30 28 17 20  3  8 25 16 | 27 23 28 21 10 21 14 21 24 26 | 32 || 2006 phi |   5  1 29  9  2 13  9  2  1  3 |  7 12 27 19 16  9 30  8  3  6 | 32 |+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+
And the defense is no good? They've been top-10 every year since his rookie coaching season except for last year when their entire team was on IR.Don't post ever again until you rescind your statements. Everyone is certainly titled to his opinion, but with the caveat that it has at least some quantum of support behind it.Are you really unhappy with one of the top offenses in the league and a defense that is one of the better units as well? Get real.
Can't argue withthe record but I'm starting to wonder if they won because of Andy or in spite of Andy.(Not to mention how he's also been completely outcoached in the playoffs multiple times)
:goodposting: I think Andy is a good coach, but with all of the opportunity he has had he should have gotten over the hump by now. He has been outcoached in the playoffs and the consistent mental errors and clock management issues have to be put on the coach. I felt like Andy's head should have been close to the block with the break down against the Giants, the underthrow and the Mcnabb chucking in TB, and the consistent way the Eagles always start slow on defense.
 
huge homer here

AR wins lots of games. For the most part a very exciting coach. However, he is not a coach who can normally come back from anything. Horrible in the 2 min drill.

The Eagles have issues with skill positions. They dont want to fork out the :moneybag: for RBs, KRs, WRs, etc.

The screwed BW, they screwed TO, they have screwed just about everyone except McNabb who cant seem put it all together over a complete season.

 
Agree that this team makes way too many stupid mental mistakes. Terrible clock management, some awful play calls, dropped passes, dropped INTs, missed tackles, etc, etc.Is it Reid's fault? Don't know if I can say that but as he says, it all starts with him.Somethings got to change with this team, this seasons lost, lets right the ship before 07.
I'm an Eagles fan and I think Reid is average at best. As a GM, he is way below average. There are two positions that he thinks are insignificant - WR & LB. He couldn't pick a decent LB if Urlacher was standing next to him on the sidelines. And his insignificant WR's consistently drop passes. Meanwhile he spends all his top draft picks on OL & DL. While we are at it - Can anyone tell me why they didn't go for two when they scored with 9 minutes left in the game. The TD made it 24-12 and they kick the extra point instead of trying to make it a 10 pt game. :confused: Willie
 
huge homer here

AR wins lots of games. For the most part a very exciting coach. However, he is not a coach who can normally come back from anything. Horrible in the 2 min drill.

The Eagles have issues with skill positions. They dont want to fork out the :moneybag: for RBs, KRs, WRs, etc.

The screwed BW, they screwed TO, they have screwed just about everyone except McNabb who cant seem put it all together over a complete season.
Care to elaborate on this one? They re-signed him while he was still under contract to a pretty healthy deal. Not bad considering he's never proven he can carry the load or stay healthy for an entire season. Did they roll out the red carpet? No. But your statement is definitely exaggerated.
 
He's never been the best game-day coach (timeouts/clock management, halftime adjustments, challenges, etc.). In the past two years he has developed a Martz-like tunnel vision in his playcalling. This year, the team has shown an appalling lack of discipline and an increase in mental mistakes.

His track record doesn't warrant a firing right now. But the situation does warrant Lurie, Banner, and co. taking a hard assessment. His job should no longer assumed to be beyond question.

 
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huge homer here

AR wins lots of games. For the most part a very exciting coach. However, he is not a coach who can normally come back from anything. Horrible in the 2 min drill.

The Eagles have issues with skill positions. They dont want to fork out the :moneybag: for RBs, KRs, WRs, etc.

The screwed BW, they screwed TO, they have screwed just about everyone except McNabb who cant seem put it all together over a complete season.
Care to elaborate on this one? They re-signed him while he was still under contract to a pretty healthy deal. Not bad considering he's never proven he can carry the load or stay healthy for an entire season. Did they roll out the red carpet? No. But your statement is definitely exaggerated.
in the middle of last season, BW is a UFA at the end of the season. They havnt given him a solid offer yet. McNabb goes down, TO out. They ask BW to return kicks ... w no contract on the table.screwing him

 
He's never been the best game-day coach (timeouts/clock management, halftime adjustments, challenges, etc.). In the past two years he has developed a Martz-like tunnel vision in his playcalling. This year, the team has shown an appalling lack of discipline and an increase in mental mistakes. His track record doesn't warrant a firing right now. But the situation does warrant Lurie, Banner, and co. taking a hard assessment. His job should no longer assumed to be beyond question.
Also, the GM duties are at darts length. Now, before I make this point, we all need to realize that the Phi FO may not care about what I have to say since they are in the top 5 of most profitable teams in the league.The Phi FO has passed on players like SJack, KJones, etc simply because they dont want to pay a franchise skill position player (IMO). The would rather draft in the trenches and pay middle of the road salaries for long term. This for the most part has worked except for the fact that the majority of their all-star trench players were all late round picks. Looking at the defensive side of the ball, nothing early on.I stressed this 2 years ago, we need a replacement for #5. We also need a replacement for Trotter (not named McCoy). Constidine looks like the real deal. We need a stellar KR and someone in the backfield who can move the pile. Sign Stallworth to a prorated 6 year deal.Spend some frikken cap money
 
He's never been the best game-day coach (timeouts/clock management, halftime adjustments, challenges, etc.). In the past two years he has developed a Martz-like tunnel vision in his playcalling. This year, the team has shown an appalling lack of discipline and an increase in mental mistakes.

His track record doesn't warrant a firing right now. But the situation does warrant Lurie, Banner, and co. taking a hard assessment. His job should no longer assumed to be beyond question.
The Phi FO has passed on players like SJack, KJones, etc simply because they dont want to pay a franchise skill position player (IMO). The would rather draft in the trenches and pay middle of the road salaries for long term. This for the most part has worked except for the fact that the majority of their all-star trench players were all late round picks. Looking at the defensive side of the ball, nothing early on.Spend some frikken cap money
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Maybe you would prefer they spend their cap space like the Falcons or Redskins ? The Falcons cant even sign a player because they have so little cap space and they have quite a few injuries. The Redskins are going to have serious cuts next season but hey they got Adam Archuleta and Rande L !!

 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin.

It's time for a change.

I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.

I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.

But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
Do you find inspiration here, and if so, may we call you our "idiot fanboy"? ;)
 
He's never been the best game-day coach (timeouts/clock management, halftime adjustments, challenges, etc.). In the past two years he has developed a Martz-like tunnel vision in his playcalling. This year, the team has shown an appalling lack of discipline and an increase in mental mistakes.

His track record doesn't warrant a firing right now. But the situation does warrant Lurie, Banner, and co. taking a hard assessment. His job should no longer assumed to be beyond question.
The Phi FO has passed on players like SJack, KJones, etc simply because they dont want to pay a franchise skill position player (IMO). The would rather draft in the trenches and pay middle of the road salaries for long term. This for the most part has worked except for the fact that the majority of their all-star trench players were all late round picks. Looking at the defensive side of the ball, nothing early on.Spend some frikken cap money
Maybe you missed a few things...PHILADELPHIA (Nov. 6, 2005) -- Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook signed a five-year contract extension with the Philadelphia Eagles.

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Reggie Brown signed a five-year contract extension Friday that would keep the wide receiver with the Philadelphia Eagles through 2014.

Updated: June 12, 2006, 11:21 AM ET

Eagles sign offensive guard Andrews through 2015

The Philadelphia Eagles today announced they have signed DE Trent Cole to a five-year contract extension that will keep him in Philadelphia through 2013.

Maybe you would prefer they spend their cap space like the Falcons or Redskins ? The Falcons cant even sign a player because they have so little cap space and they have quite a few injuries. The Redskins are going to have serious cuts next season but hey they got Adam Archuleta and Rande L !!
And two of those guys are BIG reasons why they have lost and are currently losing.There is NO WAY I would have signed Cole DURING THE SEASON after what happened against the Giants. I think he is going to be really good and already is. But ... to reward him weeks after helping blow a key divisional game?

As for Brown, he's another player I like, but I don't think he'll ever be anything more than a solid No. 2 WR. I'm in no rush to sign him to an extension.

As for whether or not I should be happy with having a 'top-ranked offense and a top defense' to paraphrase what someone said in an earlier post, I see we're 5-5. That top-ranked offense put up 13 points against the worst defense in the league.

The defense, honestly, is a one-trick pony that for five games didn't have that trick. The defense didn't get to the quarterback and it was a direct correlation to the losing streak.

Let me just say: I think Andy Reid is a good coach. I think he will go somewhere else and be a good coach. But I also believe that shelf life of a professional coach is short. Yes, Cowher has been around for a long time and won a Super Bowl last year. That's the exception IMO.

I just think the team needs a change of direction and, unfortunately, that direction is in Reid and probably the coordinators.

 
mbuehner said:
What was Reed thinking having McNabb blow out his ACL? Gotta question that kind of decision making.
When they pass the ball at such a high percentage of times, all the hits that McNabb took were bound to catch up to him. Unfortunately it did today.
Guess that means Peyton Manning is due to have his spine cracked. For the record McNabb is only 10th in pass attempts this season. Even before this week he was only 8th.
 
Andy Reid has proven that he can get his team into the big games. He has also proven that he can not win the big games. Then he went 6-10 last year and might go 7-9 this year. It is not overeacting for for Philly fans to think that Andy reid's time has come and gone.

 
would these posts be here if mcnabb doesn't blow out his ACL today & PHI wins?

if not, why not?

what is the link between mcnabb's ACL injury & reid's coaching failure's again?

that is pretty dumb spending high picks on OL/DL... everybody knows you build winning teams from the outside in (& if you do, you'll be on the outside looking in)... :)

 
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He's never been the best game-day coach (timeouts/clock management, halftime adjustments, challenges, etc.). In the past two years he has developed a Martz-like tunnel vision in his playcalling. This year, the team has shown an appalling lack of discipline and an increase in mental mistakes.

His track record doesn't warrant a firing right now. But the situation does warrant Lurie, Banner, and co. taking a hard assessment. His job should no longer assumed to be beyond question.
The Phi FO has passed on players like SJack, KJones, etc simply because they dont want to pay a franchise skill position player (IMO). The would rather draft in the trenches and pay middle of the road salaries for long term. This for the most part has worked except for the fact that the majority of their all-star trench players were all late round picks. Looking at the defensive side of the ball, nothing early on.Spend some frikken cap money
Maybe you missed a few things...PHILADELPHIA (Nov. 6, 2005) -- Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook signed a five-year contract extension with the Philadelphia Eagles.

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Reggie Brown signed a five-year contract extension Friday that would keep the wide receiver with the Philadelphia Eagles through 2014.

Updated: June 12, 2006, 11:21 AM ET

Eagles sign offensive guard Andrews through 2015

The Philadelphia Eagles today announced they have signed DE Trent Cole to a five-year contract extension that will keep him in Philadelphia through 2013.

Maybe you would prefer they spend their cap space like the Falcons or Redskins ? The Falcons cant even sign a player because they have so little cap space and they have quite a few injuries. The Redskins are going to have serious cuts next season but hey they got Adam Archuleta and Rande L !!
Do you know who the Eagles Franchise player was (past tense). What happened to him?Ill tell you what happened to the Eagles Franchise player ... they let him go. We got absolutely nothing for one of our most important players. Do you realize how crazy that is?

 
buccosfan said:
Big Eagles fan and I've supported Andy through thick and thin. It's time for a change. I don't see the fire in Andy Reid that I see in other coaches - Cowher, Holmgren, etc. Holmgren was visibly upset on a long run by Gore on which there were several missed tackles. Reid looks like he's staring vacantly into space.I don't think we totally need to rebuild. With LJ Smith, Stallworth, Brown, Westbrook and Buckhalter there are enough weapons to win.But as someone on the postgame show mentioned (I think it was Rendell) there just is no accountability for mistakes with this team. And Reid's inability to improve the defense despite constantly drafting DLs is opening a gaping hole in the team.
With all due respect, this is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on this board.
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+--------------+----------+		   | Reg. Season  | Playoffs |+----------+--------------+----------+| Year  TM |   W   L   T  |   W   L  |+----------+--------------+----------+| 1999 phi |   5  11   0  |   0   0  || 2000 phi |  11   5   0  |   1   1  || 2001 phi |  11   5   0  |   2   1  || 2002 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2003 phi |  12   4   0  |   1   1  || 2004 phi |  13   3   0  |   2   1  || 2005 phi |   6  10   0  |   0   0  || 2006 phi |   5   5   0  |   0   0  |+----------+--------------+----------+| TOTALS   |  75  46   0  |   7   5  |+----------+--------------+----------+
That's his coaching record, among the best, if not the best in the league for that time span.
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+----------+--------- Offense --------------+-------- Defense --------------+----+|		  |- TOT --|--- Rush --|--- Pass --|- TOT--|--- Rush --|--- Pass --| OUT|| Year  TM |  PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD | PT  Y  A  Y YA TD  A  Y YA TD |  OF|+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+| 1999 phi |  25 30 19 17  9 30 30 31 31 24 | 22 25 29 28 13 20 21 16 10 20 | 31 || 2000 phi |  12 17 24 15  4 19  7 20 28 13 |  4 10 22 20 13 10 23 10  3  3 | 31 || 2001 phi |   9 18 23 14  8 31 18 19 21  4 |  2  7 19 18 16  3 16  4  3  2 | 31 || 2002 phi |   4 10  5  7  8 14 18 18 18  3 |  2  6  5  9 20  1 23 13  3  7 | 32 || 2003 phi |  11 17 25  9  4  2 25 18 14 22 |  7 22 22 22 23 17 28 16 11  6 | 32 || 2004 phi |   8  8 31 24 10 23  9  6  9  4 |  3 10 16 16 19 18 29 12  3  3 | 32 || 2005 phi |  18 15 30 28 17 20  3  8 25 16 | 27 23 28 21 10 21 14 21 24 26 | 32 || 2006 phi |   5  1 29  9  2 13  9  2  1  3 |  7 12 27 19 16  9 30  8  3  6 | 32 |+----------+--------------------------------+-------------------------------+----+
And the defense is no good? They've been top-10 every year since his rookie coaching season except for last year when their entire team was on IR.Don't post ever again until you rescind your statements. Everyone is certainly titled to his opinion, but with the caveat that it has at least some quantum of support behind it.Are you really unhappy with one of the top offenses in the league and a defense that is one of the better units as well? Get real.
Yeah, but look at the last two seasons (this one and last year). Just because a head coach has a winning record from back in the day, doesn't mean he's the best coach for the team TODAY. The NFL is all about "what have you done for me lately" and this is a perfect example. Andy Reid just isn't getting it done. You can make all the excuses you want about the QB, McNabb, going down, but at the end of the day, it's all about how the team is coached and this team isn't coached well. Did you see how many balls were dropped yesterday? Did you see how many tackles were missed? There is NO WAY that Pacman Jones should have ran that one kick back. There must have been 2 or 3 times where he should have been tackled.The team isn't doing the fundamentals right (tackling and catching the ball) and that lies solely on the coaches.
 
He's never been the best game-day coach (timeouts/clock management, halftime adjustments, challenges, etc.). In the past two years he has developed a Martz-like tunnel vision in his playcalling. This year, the team has shown an appalling lack of discipline and an increase in mental mistakes.

His track record doesn't warrant a firing right now. But the situation does warrant Lurie, Banner, and co. taking a hard assessment. His job should no longer assumed to be beyond question.
The Phi FO has passed on players like SJack, KJones, etc simply because they dont want to pay a franchise skill position player (IMO). The would rather draft in the trenches and pay middle of the road salaries for long term. This for the most part has worked except for the fact that the majority of their all-star trench players were all late round picks. Looking at the defensive side of the ball, nothing early on.Spend some frikken cap money
Maybe you missed a few things...PHILADELPHIA (Nov. 6, 2005) -- Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook signed a five-year contract extension with the Philadelphia Eagles.

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Reggie Brown signed a five-year contract extension Friday that would keep the wide receiver with the Philadelphia Eagles through 2014.

Updated: June 12, 2006, 11:21 AM ET

Eagles sign offensive guard Andrews through 2015

The Philadelphia Eagles today announced they have signed DE Trent Cole to a five-year contract extension that will keep him in Philadelphia through 2013.

Maybe you would prefer they spend their cap space like the Falcons or Redskins ? The Falcons cant even sign a player because they have so little cap space and they have quite a few injuries. The Redskins are going to have serious cuts next season but hey they got Adam Archuleta and Rande L !!
Do you know who the Eagles Franchise player was (past tense). What happened to him?Ill tell you what happened to the Eagles Franchise player ... they let him go. We got absolutely nothing for one of our most important players. Do you realize how crazy that is?
Some people amaze me... Do you think they didn't try ? They did, guess what ? to get something you must have a partner willing to give something. You think the "Franchise Player" was worth anything ? How has he done for his new team the past two seasons ? Do you think its possible some other NFL teams saw that the "Franchise Player" was 80lbs over weight and injured?

Lets go back a few more years and see how letting their "franchise player" go worked out, he was cut by the team that signed him after two horrible seasons, resigns with the Birds and has been very productive.

 
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Reid has done more than enough to earn the chance to turn this around. There is no way you should fire him this year and you especially can't make that decision right now. I don't think it is crazy to bring up the idea of a change, though.

I think it will be interesting to see how these final 6 games go. If he can get this team to 9-7 or even 8-8, then I think he will really show something.

This team is really pretty young in many places. Reid has made a lot of the decisions on that personnel. In 2002, the team had more veterans and pulled together after McNabb went down, enabling them to stay strong in the last 6 games.

The majority of the current guys haven't shown anything in a big spot yet. Reid needs to be able to motivate them to get to a higher level for the rest of this season. Interestingly, at the start of yesterday's press conference, he did not say that he needs to do a better job or that he takes the responsibility. There had been some speculation this year that his continual public acceptance of blame was insulating the players and preventing them from being accountable.

I want to see how this season goes and next. If we don't see these players developing more or showing a greater ability to perform in big spots and put teams away by the end of next year, then serious consideration should be given to making a change at head coach.

 

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