Another PPR dynasty draft strategy question (1 Viewer)

[spy231]

I have the 11th pick in a new dynasty. I have always been a RB-RB guy and even a RB-RB-RB guy on occasion. I am not real big on any of the RB's that would be left for me at the 11 spot (LJ/McGahee/Grant). I dont even know if those guys are going to have starting jobs next year. Our starting requirements are:

Number of Starting QBs: 1

Number of Starting RBs: 2-3

Number of Starting WRs: 3-4

Number of Starting TEs: 1-2

Would anybody consider drafting 2 young WR's (Edwards/Fitz/Johnson) in the 1st and 2nd and then go after some of the younger RB's in rounds 3 and 4 and just start a young team. I am just thinking WR's have more shelf life and the way RB's are looking now if you dont get one of the studs you get a RBBC guy.

Any thoughts?

 

[FUBAR]

In a DYNASTY PPR league, there is nothing wrong, at all, with going WR-WR and building from there.

Any clue as to where the rookie RBs will go? This depends on your owners.

I would try to trade down from the 11 spot, as the WRs I'd want should go in the mid 2nd, not the low first. Sell someone on the idea of netting two stud RBs.

Assuming 12 teams, and using FBG rankings, my ideal draft could go something like:

Braylon

Fitz

Stewart (he may not fall this far)

Calvin

Ben

Rice/CJ/Felix

Rice/CJ/Felix

Scheffler

It may not work out like that, but it's possible and I'd be Especially if you're able to trade down from 1.11 to 2.06, and get the appropriate bumps (something like 2.06, 3.07, 5.07, and 6.06 for 1.11, 4.02, 8.02, 9.11)

 

[Little Lord Humpleroy]

Good question. I have 2 upcoming drafts, PPR ,12 teamers. In one I have the 1st pick in the other I have the twelfth. Planning on staying traditional with the #1 pick draft and getting Jiggy with it for the #12 pick draft. This could change if an opportunity arises but here's the first 10 round plan.

1.12 WR (Hopefully Moss)

2.01 WR (hopefully Wayne)

3.12 RB (Ronnie Brown? Maroney? JLew?)

4.01 WR (Holt, Burress, Bowe, Holmes)

5.12 RB (Graham, White, TJ)

6.01 RB (Forte, Smith)

7.12 RB (Selvin)

8.01 WR (Hines)

9.12 TE (Daniels)

10.01 QB (Eli, Shaub, Rivers)

I've also always been a RB/RB (sometimes even a RB/RB/RB) kind of guy but since I'm picking late figure I'll mix it up a bit. If I can find some real value at RB between the 3RD and 7TH rounds I'll have a solid team. If none of them produce obviously I'll consider it a failed philosiphy and revert back to more old school thinking.

 

[TaxMan]

Good question. I have 2 upcoming drafts, PPR ,12 teamers. In one I have the 1st pick in the other I have the twelfth. Planning on staying traditional with the #1 pick draft and getting Jiggy with it for the #12 pick draft. This could change if an opportunity arises but here's the first 10 round plan.1.12 WR (Hopefully Moss)2.01 WR (hopefully Wayne)3.12 RB (Ronnie Brown? Maroney? JLew?)4.01 WR (Holt, Burress, Bowe, Holmes)5.12 RB (Graham, White, TJ)6.01 RB (Forte, Smith)7.12 RB (Selvin)8.01 WR (Hines)9.12 TE (Daniels)10.01 QB (Eli, Shaub, Rivers)I've also always been a RB/RB (sometimes even a RB/RB/RB) kind of guy but since I'm picking late figure I'll mix it up a bit. If I can find some real value at RB between the 3RD and 7TH rounds I'll have a solid team. If none of them produce obviously I'll consider it a failed philosiphy and revert back to more old school thinking.

nice strategy on paper, but i doubt you get over half the targets you have in those rounds. Moss is being taken at 1.07 to 1.10 in leagues i've seen. So it's really possible both Moss and Waye are gone by 1.12. If so, do you stick with WR-WR? i also have the 12th pick in 1 league and curious what people will do if Moss/Wayne are both gone.

 

[valhallan]

Definitely do not go RB-RB in a PPR dynasty. Stud WRs are so much more predictable and reliable that you simply must get at least one, preferably two top dogs early. I'd still look for a RB in the first three rounds if the value presents itself. A guy like Bush could fall to the late 2nd-early 3rd due to everyone souring on him, but he's still PPR gold.

 

[Little Lord Humpleroy]

Good question. I have 2 upcoming drafts, PPR ,12 teamers. In one I have the 1st pick in the other I have the twelfth. Planning on staying traditional with the #1 pick draft and getting Jiggy with it for the #12 pick draft. This could change if an opportunity arises but here's the first 10 round plan.1.12 WR (Hopefully Moss)2.01 WR (hopefully Wayne)3.12 RB (Ronnie Brown? Maroney? JLew?)4.01 WR (Holt, Burress, Bowe, Holmes)5.12 RB (Graham, White, TJ)6.01 RB (Forte, Smith)7.12 RB (Selvin)8.01 WR (Hines)9.12 TE (Daniels)10.01 QB (Eli, Shaub, Rivers)I've also always been a RB/RB (sometimes even a RB/RB/RB) kind of guy but since I'm picking late figure I'll mix it up a bit. If I can find some real value at RB between the 3RD and 7TH rounds I'll have a solid team. If none of them produce obviously I'll consider it a failed philosiphy and revert back to more old school thinking.

nice strategy on paper, but i doubt you get over half the targets you have in those rounds. Moss is being taken at 1.07 to 1.10 in leagues i've seen. So it's really possible both Moss and Waye are gone by 1.12. If so, do you stick with WR-WR? i also have the 12th pick in 1 league and curious what people will do if Moss/Wayne are both gone.

No, I don't think I'll stick with the plan if I can't get one if not both players. The idea is to have a big edge over every other team in the league at the WR position. I've drafted Moss at 2.07 and 2.09 in 2 seperate drafts this year but they were both dynasty leagues. Might be a little different in the redrafts but there's an outside chance Ill have the opportunity. Getting Moss is the key to the double WR plan. Wayne/ TO or TO/ Fitzy doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[TaxMan]

Good question. I have 2 upcoming drafts, PPR ,12 teamers. In one I have the 1st pick in the other I have the twelfth. Planning on staying traditional with the #1 pick draft and getting Jiggy with it for the #12 pick draft. This could change if an opportunity arises but here's the first 10 round plan.1.12 WR (Hopefully Moss)2.01 WR (hopefully Wayne)3.12 RB (Ronnie Brown? Maroney? JLew?)4.01 WR (Holt, Burress, Bowe, Holmes)5.12 RB (Graham, White, TJ)6.01 RB (Forte, Smith)7.12 RB (Selvin)8.01 WR (Hines)9.12 TE (Daniels)10.01 QB (Eli, Shaub, Rivers)I've also always been a RB/RB (sometimes even a RB/RB/RB) kind of guy but since I'm picking late figure I'll mix it up a bit. If I can find some real value at RB between the 3RD and 7TH rounds I'll have a solid team. If none of them produce obviously I'll consider it a failed philosiphy and revert back to more old school thinking.

nice strategy on paper, but i doubt you get over half the targets you have in those rounds. Moss is being taken at 1.07 to 1.10 in leagues i've seen. So it's really possible both Moss and Waye are gone by 1.12. If so, do you stick with WR-WR? i also have the 12th pick in 1 league and curious what people will do if Moss/Wayne are both gone.

No, I don't think I'll stick with the plan if I can't get one if not both players. The idea is to have a big edge over every other team in the league at the WR position. I've drafted Moss at 2.07 and 2.09 in 2 seperate drafts this year but they were both dynasty leagues. Might be a little different in the redrafts but there's an outside chance Ill have the opportunity. Getting Moss is the key to the double WR plan. Wayne/ TO or TO/ Fitzy doesn't have the same ring to it.

i'm thinking the same way. So would you go RB-WR or RB-RB? Willis-TO, or WIllis-LJ?

 

[Little Lord Humpleroy]

Good question. I have 2 upcoming drafts, PPR ,12 teamers. In one I have the 1st pick in the other I have the twelfth. Planning on staying traditional with the #1 pick draft and getting Jiggy with it for the #12 pick draft. This could change if an opportunity arises but here's the first 10 round plan.1.12 WR (Hopefully Moss)2.01 WR (hopefully Wayne)3.12 RB (Ronnie Brown? Maroney? JLew?)4.01 WR (Holt, Burress, Bowe, Holmes)5.12 RB (Graham, White, TJ)6.01 RB (Forte, Smith)7.12 RB (Selvin)8.01 WR (Hines)9.12 TE (Daniels)10.01 QB (Eli, Shaub, Rivers)I've also always been a RB/RB (sometimes even a RB/RB/RB) kind of guy but since I'm picking late figure I'll mix it up a bit. If I can find some real value at RB between the 3RD and 7TH rounds I'll have a solid team. If none of them produce obviously I'll consider it a failed philosiphy and revert back to more old school thinking.

nice strategy on paper, but i doubt you get over half the targets you have in those rounds. Moss is being taken at 1.07 to 1.10 in leagues i've seen. So it's really possible both Moss and Waye are gone by 1.12. If so, do you stick with WR-WR? i also have the 12th pick in 1 league and curious what people will do if Moss/Wayne are both gone.

No, I don't think I'll stick with the plan if I can't get one if not both players. The idea is to have a big edge over every other team in the league at the WR position. I've drafted Moss at 2.07 and 2.09 in 2 seperate drafts this year but they were both dynasty leagues. Might be a little different in the redrafts but there's an outside chance Ill have the opportunity. Getting Moss is the key to the double WR plan. Wayne/ TO or TO/ Fitzy doesn't have the same ring to it.

i'm thinking the same way. So would you go RB-WR or RB-RB? Willis-TO, or WIllis-LJ?

If Moss and Wayne are gone I'd look for the RB that dropped, Lynch or Barber and go for the BWRA with the 2.01. From then on it's BPA. Wouldn't go RB/RB. Too hard to keep up wth the LT's and ADP's. Not going to win that race from the twelve spot. One of the first two HAS to be a receiver.

 

[EBF]

I went with Fitzgerald and Wayne as my first two picks in a recent PPR dynasty draft this offseason. I think RB's tend to be overrated in PPR. An elite WR will generally score similar points, has greater longevity potential, and is a lesser injury risk. I think Larry Fitzgerald is the top overall player in PPR dynasty, so I'd strongly consider him if he falls to your pick. You can grab high upside RB sleepers like Felix Jones, Ray Rice, and Brandon Jackson later in the draft.

 

[EBF]

That said, I do generally like to come out of the first few rounds with at least one good RB.

 

[SF409ers]

I would go WR/RB in rounds 1 and 2. Since you will probably be looking at 3-4 RB's who could all be grouped together at the 1.11, I would take what will probably be the 2nd best WR in the draft in Wayne, assuming someone snags Moss right before you.

Since you must start 2 RB's IMO I just don't think you can afford to wait until the end of the 3rd to grab your 1st starting RB and go WR/WR.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Going the RB/WR route adds a ton of flexibility not only at the draft but also during the season.

Being totally top heavy at the WR really paints yourself into a corner on RBs.

 

[spy231]

Lots of good points guys. I think it will just have to be a draft day decision. I may be getting ahead of myself. A RB I like could fall to me and I dont need to have my mind set on picking a WR just because I said I was going to! Thanks again guys!

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Lots of good points guys. I think it will just have to be a draft day decision. I may be getting ahead of myself. A RB I like could fall to me and I dont need to have my mind set on picking a WR just because I said I was going to! Thanks again guys!

Don't take Randy Moss in a dynasty. It wasn't a sure thing for awhile there if Moss was going to play this year in NE and if he's not in NE, we saw what else he's capable of in Oakland.I'd try and go WR/RB in your situation. The top WR's in this league are actually a little old in the tooth to start scooping up in the 1st round.

 

[Duckboy]

Going the RB/WR route adds a ton of flexibility not only at the draft but also during the season.Being totally top heavy at the WR really paints yourself into a corner on RBs.

Dropoff after the top 10-12 RBs is pretty steep. Would likely go WR/WR next turn, but one of each allows you the option to go with best available, even a QB or TE if someone of value falls.

 

[Buckna]

It's an acceptable strategy, but if I was going to do it I would look to trade back out of one of those picks to move up one of my mid-rounders. I would likely keep the #11 and trade back from 2.2. 11 would allow you to grab a RB you like if one falls or to take your 1st choice of WR. My later 2nd pick I would target Braylon or Andre or even Colston depending on how far back you traded. I would try to move either my 3rd or 4th rounder up into the late 2nd, early 3rd to get one of the young rookie RB's if my 1st two picks were WR or to grab another WR if I went RB with one of my first 2 selections.Make sure to consult the thread with links to other initial drafts this summer, FBG dynasty rankings don't reflect true initial drafts. Teams constantly reach on younger guys, potential type guys and players a particular owner loves. I don't want to pick on a particular post, but if I use my own initial draft I did a month ago with very similar scoring and starting requirements and compare it to this example:

Assuming 12 teams, and using FBG rankings, my ideal draft could go something like:Braylon - 2.7, availableFitz - 2.1, goneStewart (he may not fall this far) - 2.12, goneCalvin - 3.6, goneBen - 5.2, goneRice/CJ/Felix - 6.3, 6.11, 7.3, all availableRice/CJ/Felix - 6.3, 6.11, 7.3, all availableScheffler - available

One problem I generally see with people taking the WR, WR approach in dynasty is they go for too much immediate production. You are going to be behind the 8ball on RB's, and if your starters are say Reggie Wayne + Randy Moss, you will probably score too many points to get a high pick to add the rook RB's you need. Even if you do get them, those WR's are going to be getting up there in age by the time your rook RB's are hitting their stride.Obviously league setup might change the strategy, but I think most of the time you should try to come out of the first 3 rounds with at least 1 RB. Here are the RB's that went from 3.11 onward in my initial draft, I would be okay with one of them as a RB2 in most cases, but not as a RB1:Kevin Smith 3.11Brandon Jacobs 4.1Jamal Lewis 4.5Matt Forte 5.8Thomas Jones 5.9Willie Parker 5.10Julius Jones 6.1Graham 6.6Lendale 6.7Edge 6.8etc...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Going the RB/WR route adds a ton of flexibility not only at the draft but also during the season.Being totally top heavy at the WR really paints yourself into a corner on RBs.

Dropoff after the top 10-12 RBs is pretty steep. Would likely go WR/WR next turn, but one of each allows you the option to go with best available, even a QB or TE if someone of value falls.

Good advice.... even better would be to trade down to remain in the Top 10-12 for a RB yet improve Rounds 2 and 3 to get 2 better WRs before the talent drops off.