Another school shooting (2 Viewers)

[scrumptrulescent]

I was wrong, I'll be wrong again.

 

[mad sweeney]

I was wrong, I'll be wrong again.

eta: I had a condescending retort to the infantile practice of editing a quote, but forgot it was the school shooting thread so I erased it.

 

[sho nuff]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Cause anti government conspiracy is a right wing thing only.cough....Bush was behind 9/11...cough

Like the other guy said, you're much more likely to see the "Bush was behind 9/11" people associated with Glenn Beck in his "Libertarian Commune" than at Occupy Wall Street.Also, barring some exceptions, the right side wing-nuts have guns, while the lefties don't. And this whole flap-up is particularly focused on guns, thus my statement against "right wing" nuts, leaving the lefties out of it.

The thing is...you are more likely to see complete nutjobs that are pulling these conspiracies no matter what their supposed political offiliation is.

 

[Widbil83]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Cause anti government conspiracy is a right wing thing only.cough....Bush was behind 9/11...cough

Um, that entire movement was essentially libertarian.

Plus about 50% of Democratshttp://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html

 

[pittstownkiller]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

Wasn't it 12/14/12?

 

[pittstownkiller]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Cause anti government conspiracy is a right wing thing only.cough....Bush was behind 9/11...cough

Um, that entire movement was essentially libertarian.

Plus about 50% of Democratshttp://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html

I am sure when Bill Ayres was setting of bombs it was because he was a a follower of William F. Buckley.

 

[coyote5]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

Wasn't it 12/14/12?

 

[mcintyre1]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Cause anti government conspiracy is a right wing thing only.cough....Bush was behind 9/11...cough

Um, that entire movement was essentially libertarian.

Plus about 50% of Democratshttp://www.politico...._Bush_knew.html

The way they worded that question, I would fall in that 50%. "How likely is it that people in the federal government either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to stop the attacks because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?"



Given the options: "Very Likely, Somewhat Likely, Not Likely, Don't Know" I would personally select "Somewhat likely." I do not find it implausible that someone would do such a thing if they stand to heavily benefit financially. "Not Likely" feels like the answer I'm to give if I think its impossible, which I don't, so that leaves me with the highly scientific "Somewhat likely."



Also, the "article" you linked claims that that number represents Democrats only. Looking at the actual poll itself, I see no way to determine that that is true, much less where he got his percentages from, as they don't match with the poll results he links. Even if he got the raw data himself, I'm not sure how he'd link each respondent to a particular political party, because none of the poll questions asks if the respondent identifies with a political party. You could get a loose affiliation from the "Is GW Bush doing a good job?" question, but that's hardly scientifically accurate. The question was asked of all 1010 respondents, and the poll did not exclude conservatives from responding. So what that poll actually showed was that, of all people, Very Likely earned 16%, Somewhat Likely got 20%, and Not Likely lead the field with 60%.

 

[Sarnoff]

Given the options: "Very Likely, Somewhat Likely, Not Likely, Don't Know" I would personally select "Somewhat likely." I do not find it implausible that someone would do such a thing if they stand to heavily benefit financially. "Not Likely" feels like the answer I'm to give if I think its impossible, which I don't, so that leaves me with the highly scientific "Somewhat likely."

"Likely" doesn't mean "certainly". "Likely" means >50%, or, 'more probable than not'. If you think it's less realistic then not, then you go with "not likely", which means improbable but still possible.

 

[timschochet]

This isn't too far out there from some of the arguments that have been made in the gun control thread.

 

[mcintyre1]

Given the options: "Very Likely, Somewhat Likely, Not Likely, Don't Know" I would personally select "Somewhat likely." I do not find it implausible that someone would do such a thing if they stand to heavily benefit financially. "Not Likely" feels like the answer I'm to give if I think its impossible, which I don't, so that leaves me with the highly scientific "Somewhat likely."

"Likely" doesn't mean "certainly". "Likely" means >50%, or, 'more probable than not'. If you think it's less realistic then not, then you go with "not likely", which means improbable but still possible.

So what does "Somewhat likely" mean? You've just thrown out the possibility of the middle option. If I "think it's less realistic then not" why would I skip the hedging option they provided me?

 

[Mello]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Wouldn't blame them. The President shouldn't just be creating laws. I just wish they cared so much when other Presidents were issuing executive orders.

 

[mad sweeney]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

Wasn't it 12/14/12?

The Newtown shooting was, but I was referring to the Mayan Apocalypse. End of the world crazies going out and killing people is what I was afraid of.

 

[mcintyre1]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Wouldn't blame them. The President shouldn't just be creating laws. I just wish they cared so much when other Presidents were issuing executive orders.

I am against gun control. But I'm willing to accept that I'm in the minority on that (especially among my own party), and the best I can hope for is to come to a reasonable compromise. I'm fine with the assault weapon ban because it affects only a small percentage of people, but I'm against the overall idea of it. It reminds me of the TSA, a showy placard to imitate safety.I would rather we focused our efforts on improved public healthcare, specifically mental healthcare, for all families and specifically those that have obviously troubled children.

 

[shuke]

Let me preface this by saying that I can not even imagine what any parent who lost a child must be going through, its unfathomable to me. But i was little surprised that the father of little Emily Parker gave a press conference about his daughter. It was very emotional and heart wrenching, but I just couldnt understand how that came to be? Was the media contacting the families of the children to get a statement from one of them? Why would a grieving father have to tell the world how much his daughter meant to him, to me it seemed like the media was exploiting his tragedy

Some people are saying his daughter isn't dead.

#### these people.

 

[shuke]

Now they are after the poor guy who found those children on his lawn.http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html

Disgusting.

 

[Mello]

Now they are after the poor guy who found those children on his lawn.http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html

Disgusting.

WTF is wrong with some people?

 

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The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

You're not. There will be major issues in the Midwest and southeast. There is a rapidly growing contingent of law enforcement who simply will walk off the job rather than enforce the law. Several of my friends who are SWAT MPD and county sheriffs deputies have told me that there is a very one sided stance against this in this cities forces. This will likely simply result in a few knee jerk bans (like NY) but I don't think anyone will be stupid enough to actually pass this on a national level. If they do and try to enforce it, much blood will be shed.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

You're not. There will be major issues in the Midwest and southeast. There is a rapidly growing contingent of law enforcement who simply will walk off the job rather than enforce the law. Several of my friends who are SWAT MPD and county sheriffs deputies have told me that there is a very one sided stance against this in this cities forces. This will likely simply result in a few knee jerk bans (like NY) but I don't think anyone will be stupid enough to actually pass this on a national level. If they do and try to enforce it, much blood will be shed.

This seems like a good way to argue against gun control

 

[timschochet]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

You're not. There will be major issues in the Midwest and southeast. There is a rapidly growing contingent of law enforcement who simply will walk off the job rather than enforce the law. Several of my friends who are SWAT MPD and county sheriffs deputies have told me that there is a very one sided stance against this in this cities forces. This will likely simply result in a few knee jerk bans (like NY) but I don't think anyone will be stupid enough to actually pass this on a national level. If they do and try to enforce it, much blood will be shed.

Are you talking about limits on magazines and universal background checks? Or even a return to the AWB? Or something else?

 

[[icon]]

The combination of the last several years of anti-government drama (Birthers, truthers, etc.) being fueled by right wing media has me somewhat concerned that, if Obama does go the executive order route on gun control, we're going to see open violence in this country.

Many people have publicly stated pretty much exactly that they would do that. I was wrong in thinking there were going to be a lot more craziness because of 12/21/12, hopefully I'll be wrong again about this.

You're not. There will be major issues in the Midwest and southeast. There is a rapidly growing contingent of law enforcement who simply will walk off the job rather than enforce the law. Several of my friends who are SWAT MPD and county sheriffs deputies have told me that there is a very one sided stance against this in this cities forces. This will likely simply result in a few knee jerk bans (like NY) but I don't think anyone will be stupid enough to actually pass this on a national level. If they do and try to enforce it, much blood will be shed.

This seems like a good way to argue against gun control

I'm not endorsing it... I'm simply stating what I'm seeing/hearing. The south is very "Molon Labe" about this whole thing.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

One year anniversary (tomorrow) web site

http://mysandyhookfamily.org/about/

 

[BustedKnuckles]

This is a tribute we painted on a rock for Newtown Ct that is kind of famous in our area. This rock has been painted thousands of times over many ,many years for every occasion imaginable.

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/photos/x1631896909/PHOTOS-Message-for-Newtown-CT-on-the-rock

 

[Ned Ryerson]

and a school shooting on the anniversary day....ugh

 

[Dr Oadi]

There is no legitimate reason for any civilian to own assault shotguns!

 

[Raider Nation]

AP:

Connecticut State Police on Friday released thousands of pages of documents from the investigation into last year's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. Here are some highlights of the documents, which supplement a summary report that was released earlier:

— Gunman Adam Lanza's mother, Nancy, told a friend two weeks before the massacre that her son was becoming increasingly despondent and had was put "over the edge" when their house lost power during Hurricane Sandy.

— Another friend told investigators Nancy Lanza texted him a few days before the shooting to say that Adam had bumped his head and they were "dealing with blood."

— A nurse said that she interviewed gunman Adam Lanza four times in 2006 and 2007 and that he had been diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder and was "emotionally paralyzed," changing his socks 20 times a day.

— The advanced-practice nurse prescribed an antidepressant/anti-anxiety medication, but mother Nancy Lanza stopped giving it to him after he was unable to raise his arm, which she believed a side effect. The nurse said Adam's mother failed to schedule follow-up visits.

— A former teacher said Adam Lanza's parents were not "up front" with teachers about his mental abilities. The teacher recalled Lanza responding to a creative writing assignment by "obsessing about battles, destruction and war." The teacher called the level of violence "disturbing."

— A man who dated Nancy Lanza in 2011 said she told him in an email that she had scheduled a trip to London the week of the shooting but canceled at the last minute because of "a couple last minute problems on the home front."

— Police officers found what appeared to be about 15 bodies, mostly children, piled in a bathroom at Sandy Hook. Police quickly carried them out, looking for signs of life, but there were no survivors among the group.

— Police were cautious about interviewing the surviving children. Interviews were done only if the children or their parents requested them. If the child didn't want to talk, the interview was ended immediately. After the interview, the children were given a copy of the children's book "A Terrible Thing Happened" to help them process what they had seen.

— Teachers told investigators they heard janitor Rick Thorne confront Adam Lanza and try to get him to leave the school. One teacher, who was hiding in a closet in the math lab, heard Thorne yell, "Put the gun down!" Thorne was not killed.

 

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AP:

Connecticut State Police on Friday released thousands of pages of documents from the investigation into last year's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. Here are some highlights of the documents, which supplement a summary report that was released earlier:— Gunman Adam Lanza's mother, Nancy, told a friend two weeks before the massacre that her son was becoming increasingly despondent and had was put "over the edge" when their house lost power during Hurricane Sandy.

— Another friend told investigators Nancy Lanza texted him a few days before the shooting to say that Adam had bumped his head and they were "dealing with blood."

— A nurse said that she interviewed gunman Adam Lanza four times in 2006 and 2007 and that he had been diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder and was "emotionally paralyzed," changing his socks 20 times a day.

— The advanced-practice nurse prescribed an antidepressant/anti-anxiety medication, but mother Nancy Lanza stopped giving it to him after he was unable to raise his arm, which she believed a side effect. The nurse said Adam's mother failed to schedule follow-up visits.

— A former teacher said Adam Lanza's parents were not "up front" with teachers about his mental abilities. The teacher recalled Lanza responding to a creative writing assignment by "obsessing about battles, destruction and war." The teacher called the level of violence "disturbing."

— A man who dated Nancy Lanza in 2011 said she told him in an email that she had scheduled a trip to London the week of the shooting but canceled at the last minute because of "a couple last minute problems on the home front."

— Police officers found what appeared to be about 15 bodies, mostly children, piled in a bathroom at Sandy Hook. Police quickly carried them out, looking for signs of life, but there were no survivors among the group.

— Police were cautious about interviewing the surviving children. Interviews were done only if the children or their parents requested them. If the child didn't want to talk, the interview was ended immediately. After the interview, the children were given a copy of the children's book "A Terrible Thing Happened" to help them process what they had seen.

— Teachers told investigators they heard janitor Rick Thorne confront Adam Lanza and try to get him to leave the school. One teacher, who was hiding in a closet in the math lab, heard Thorne yell, "Put the gun down!" Thorne was not killed.

Hrmmm.... nothing to see here. The guns are the problem, folks.

 

[T Bell]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577174/I-wish-never-born-Adam-Lanzas-father-makes-startling-admission-son-killed-20-children-Sandy-Hook-school-interview-tragedy.html#ixzz2vaWnkwA5

'I wish he had never been born': Adam Lanza's father breaks his silence on 'evil' son who killed 20 children at Sandy Hook school in first interview since tragedy

• Peter Lanza, the father of Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, has given his first interview since his son killed 6 people and his mother in December 2012
• Claimed he wished his son had never been born
• Believes that his son was an undiagnosed schizophrenic or psychopath
• Outlined Lanza's troubled childhood and how he was never normal - calling his own son a 'weird little kid'
• Said that his son was obsessed with World War II and started to withdraw when he hit puberty
• Refused to admit where his son was buried

 

[fantasycurse42]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-truther-caught-virginia-stolen-playground-signs-police-article-1.1811925

The POS who vandalized the playground named after children and then called the parents and told them it was a hoax has been arrested... I hope he is skinned alive and fed to a pack of hungry dogs.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-truther-caught-virginia-stolen-playground-signs-police-article-1.1811925

The POS who vandalized the playground named after children and then called the parents and told them it was a hoax has been arrested... I hope he is skinned alive and fed to a pack of hungry dogs.

A demented Sandy Hook “truther” was arrested Friday in Virginia after he stole signs from playgrounds in New Jersey and Connecticut that were dedicated to tiny victims of the Newtown school massacre, police say.

So you're in favor of cruel and unusual punishment and/or the death penalty for people that suffer from mental illness? Cool.

 

[fantasycurse42]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-truther-caught-virginia-stolen-playground-signs-police-article-1.1811925

The POS who vandalized the playground named after children and then called the parents and told them it was a hoax has been arrested... I hope he is skinned alive and fed to a pack of hungry dogs.

A demented Sandy Hook truther was arrested Friday in Virginia after he stole signs from playgrounds in New Jersey and Connecticut that were dedicated to tiny victims of the Newtown school massacre, police say.

So you're in favor of cruel and unusual punishment and/or the death penalty for people that suffer from mental illness? Cool.

So they catch the Sandy Hook shooter alive hypothetically, I guess in your world we take this deranged lunatic who committed one of the most heinous crimes of all time, & maybe we try to rehabilitate him and get him back on track? Cool.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577174/I-wish-never-born-Adam-Lanzas-father-makes-startling-admission-son-killed-20-children-Sandy-Hook-school-interview-tragedy.html#ixzz2vaWnkwA5

'I wish he had never been born': Adam Lanza's father breaks his silence on 'evil' son who killed 20 children at Sandy Hook school in first interview since tragedy

• Peter Lanza, the father of Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, has given his first interview since his son killed 6 people and his mother in December 2012
• Claimed he wished his son had never been born
• Believes that his son was an undiagnosed schizophrenic or psychopath
• Outlined Lanza's troubled childhood and how he was never normal - calling his own son a 'weird little kid'
• Said that his son was obsessed with World War II and started to withdraw when he hit puberty
• Refused to admit where his son was buried

Jesus that's scary.

 

[Todd Andrews]

I just assume daily mass school shootings are a normal part of American life now.

 

[Stinger Ray]

I just assume daily mass school shootings are a normal part of American life now.

You're not very bright.

 

[timschochet]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-truther-caught-virginia-stolen-playground-signs-police-article-1.1811925

The POS who vandalized the playground named after children and then called the parents and told them it was a hoax has been arrested... I hope he is skinned alive and fed to a pack of hungry dogs.

A demented Sandy Hook truther was arrested Friday in Virginia after he stole signs from playgrounds in New Jersey and Connecticut that were dedicated to tiny victims of the Newtown school massacre, police say.

So you're in favor of cruel and unusual punishment and/or the death penalty for people that suffer from mental illness? Cool.

Its not mental illness. The Sandy Hook "Truthers" are an extreme offshoot of NRA supporters. If you tell people for years that Obama is going to seize all of your guns, then this sort of thing becomes almost inevitable.

 

[The Commish]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-truther-caught-virginia-stolen-playground-signs-police-article-1.1811925

The POS who vandalized the playground named after children and then called the parents and told them it was a hoax has been arrested... I hope he is skinned alive and fed to a pack of hungry dogs.

A demented Sandy Hook truther was arrested Friday in Virginia after he stole signs from playgrounds in New Jersey and Connecticut that were dedicated to tiny victims of the Newtown school massacre, police say.

So you're in favor of cruel and unusual punishment and/or the death penalty for people that suffer from mental illness? Cool.

Its not mental illness. The Sandy Hook "Truthers" are an extreme offshoot of NRA supporters. If you tell people for years that Obama is going to seize all of your guns, then this sort of thing becomes almost inevitable.

Dementia is very much a mental illness

 

[Stinger Ray]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-truther-caught-virginia-stolen-playground-signs-police-article-1.1811925

The POS who vandalized the playground named after children and then called the parents and told them it was a hoax has been arrested... I hope he is skinned alive and fed to a pack of hungry dogs.

A demented Sandy Hook truther was arrested Friday in Virginia after he stole signs from playgrounds in New Jersey and Connecticut that were dedicated to tiny victims of the Newtown school massacre, police say.

So you're in favor of cruel and unusual punishment and/or the death penalty for people that suffer from mental illness? Cool.

Its not mental illness. The Sandy Hook "Truthers" are an extreme offshoot of NRA supporters. If you tell people for years that Obama is going to seize all of your guns, then this sort of thing becomes almost inevitable.

You are one strange dude.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Bump....

There are reports of an active shooter at Reynolds High School in Troutdale, Oregon. Police have confirmed several injuries.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Is it okay to say that we have a problem in this country yet?

Countdown to discussions on your rights, and how guns don't kill people, and how everyone needs to be armed in 3....2....1..........

 

[fantasycurse42]

Bump....

There are reports of an active shooter at Reynolds High School in Troutdale, Oregon. Police have confirmed several injuries.

I hate hearing this #### so much! Some sick ####### ####### piece of ####s out there.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Is it okay to say that we have a problem in this country yet?

Countdown to discussions on your rights, and how guns don't kill people, and how everyone needs to be armed in 3....2....1..........

We have always had guns in this country. I am much more interested in the why there seems to be such an increase in these type of situations.

 

[Arizona Ron]

So bizarre

 

[fantasycurse42]

Shooter dead, others hurt, but shooter the only fatality... This is the best possible outcome.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/10/justice/oregon-high-school-shooting/index.html?c=homepage-t

 

[KCitons]

CNN now reporting the shooter AND one student dead.

For those wondering when it will end? It won't. People need to have a basic respect for each other for these shootings to stop. I don't see that getting better any time soon.

 

[CurlyNight]

Is it okay to say that we have a problem in this country yet?

Countdown to discussions on your rights, and how guns don't kill people, and how everyone needs to be armed in 3....2....1..........

We have always had guns in this country. I am much more interested in the why there seems to be such an increase in these type of situations.

Agree. Sure didn't have to think about getting shot at school a couple decades ago. I feel sorry for kids now days. You just never know when someone is going to let loose and where.

 

[stbugs]

Is it okay to say that we have a problem in this country yet?

Countdown to discussions on your rights, and how guns don't kill people, and how everyone needs to be armed in 3....2....1..........

It is okay to say we have a problem, but why don't we get to the actual problem. There is a huge mental illness issue and almost all of these cases seem to center around kids/adults that people around them "knew" they were capable of this and had access to guns, knives, explosives, whatever.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

All school need metal detectors and security guards now. Not just those in bad areas.

 

[fantasycurse42]

This will never be solved, ever... & it really sucks bc this has to be the worst news a parent can get, it is almost unimaginable! Thoughts and prayers with all victims and their parents.

Mental illness will never be solved, people being the variable - You can't predict someone's behavior... Sure, some people give warnings, but others don't. This country will always have guns too... I'd be more than happy to remove all guns from society, but I am a realist and know this will never happen. These incidents are unfortunately a regular part of our society.

 

[fantasycurse42]

All school need metal detectors and security guards now. Not just those in bad areas.

This won't solve anything unfortunately IMO - If a student wants to carry this out, they simply walk right through shooting.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

All school need metal detectors and security guards now. Not just those in bad areas.

This won't solve anything unfortunately IMO - If a student wants to carry this out, they simply walk right through shooting.

It's at least a layer.