TarheelBlue
Footballguy
So I am EFFED at TE. Sweet.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
No offense but you drafted a TE in the 3rd or 4th round with a known foot problem and you didnt back him up with a decent backup?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I made the same mistake
Although I did back him up with the preseason hype train Kendricks TarheelBlue
Footballguy
None taken. I blundered. #####. I have modest backups... really wanted some firepower at TE, since my league is TE heavy.
You don't back up a TE you draft in round 3 or 4. You draft them expecting consistent production year long.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Well i backed him up with hernandez and see what that got me. Football is turning into baseball with all of these pansy a@@es that get hurt when the wind blows too hard. I mean how long is this foot thing going to go on, its ridiculous. Either tell him to retire or put him on freakin IR. This will be the theme the rest of the year...well its sore, he didnt practice, he may or may not play, he's a gametime decision, its his "time of the month and he has heavy flow". This has gotten so old and i can't belive i wasted a high pcik on him. Now my season is officially @%#$#$ since i am losing him, lost hernandez, lost colston, etc etc etc.
TarheelBlue
Footballguy
Gates is definitely a disasterous pick. The opportunity cost of another player at his ADP is obviously really the worst part.SEason destroying.
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
A little overdramatic aren't we? The loss/decline of Gates would be big but far from season destroying if you drafted good depth. Much easier to overcome than the loss of a stud rb/wr (e.g. Charles).
Judge Smails
Footballguy
buddy of mine says he heard Gates is in a walking boot
Eastwood
Footballguy
Did he get a free bowl of soup with that boot? looks good on you though
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TarheelBlue
Footballguy
I hack sawed a boot off my car last St Patty's day. Why can't antonio do the same?
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
so you're that guy with the injured player.
SleeperPix
Footballguy
Bump Tolbert
netnalp
Footballguy
Can't do anything but laugh at those getting so upset that they spent a high draft pick on him since his injury history is so well known and Gates himself has said several times that the condition wasn't going away. It's like getting mad at a compass for pointing north. I have more understanding for those that spent a high draft pick for Peyton Manning after it was known he'd miss time.'Ladsud said:
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shadyridr
Footballguy
huh? he missed a ton of games last yr
Young 8
Footballguy
No the point is: Gates is not 2Xs anymore
shadyridr
Footballguy
he tore his platar fascia last yr. what does him playing 16games in his previous yrs have to do with anything?
shadyridr
Footballguy
when did i say that?
goodoldalky
Footballguy
Frankly, had Gates last year, and I didn't want to draft this guy this year and I still don't think he's a good buy low.
Buy low means go for low value in a guy with exceptional circumstances to explain his subpar performances as an aberration. IMO this guy has very good reasons as to why he has not performed, and plantar fasciitis is something that gets worse over the course of a season, not better. He needs extensive time to rest, as in weeks and months, to make this better. Even a whole offseason wasn't enough, for what its worth.
Buy low means go for low value in a guy with exceptional circumstances to explain his subpar performances as an aberration. IMO this guy has very good reasons as to why he has not performed, and plantar fasciitis is something that gets worse over the course of a season, not better. He needs extensive time to rest, as in weeks and months, to make this better. Even a whole offseason wasn't enough, for what its worth.
shadyridr
Footballguy
nope
netnalp
Footballguy
I had him last year, and it was great for a little while, then he was terrible because he'd leave games and then miss them making him worthless. Most knew to stay away and let someone else grab this head ache. Sure hindsight is 20/20 but those that feel they were blindsided by this just didn't bother to do a little investigation into Gates.
netnalp
Footballguy
He tore it week 8 last year and had been having problems with his feet the 2 weeks prior to that. The week 9 game was the first time he'd ever missed a game since 2005, that one may not have been due to injury though. Last year Gates would usually say he'd be able to play, that it felt a lot better and then leave the game early or be a GTD.Prior to that he had foot and ankle injuries during 2008 & 2009 but hadn't missed time. The red flag people seem to have missed was the amount of time he missed last year and Gate's comments during the offseason that this was going to be a chronic problem of pain management.
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Sure it was a red flag, but there was no real way to know how limited he would be. There still isn't really a way to know that...if it was such a red flag why was he universally considered the No. 1 TE in preseason rankings?
netnalp
Footballguy
The lockout preventing OTAs, Gates would have missed them and that would have lowered his ranking. Eli had the same diagnosis and hasn't had a problem since so that probably alleviated concerns. The thing was Gates had made comments during the off season that indicated his injury was going to be chronic. I stayed away because Gates was only choosing to rest the foot and not attempting other treatments such as cortisol shots or cryosurgery. Cryosurgery is the more invasive, more effective procedure and would have only taken 1-2 weeks recovery time.
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