Anyone else hear Portis on ESPN (1 Viewer)

[Marvelous]

I think one point some people are missing: It would not be surprising if a lot more people are involved in dog fighting that we think. To most of us, it is obscure and something we never heard about. My guess is that there is a really underground industry and quite a few NFL players are involved or know about it.

The stupid part for Portis: by publicly stating that it's not that bad, it makes it look like he could be part of it.

 

[mad sweeney]

This sounds to me like Portis was just trying to give the P.C. "it's none of my business so I'm not going to say anything to get myself involved" response, which just didn't work out given the nature of the subject.I imagine it was pretty much a blanket line that he would've given as a response to that question were it instead about a bunch of parking tickets or possession.Heck, I bet he would've given the exact same line had they asked him about the whole water bottle thing.It's not like he said it looks like fun or something, he just said it wasn't his business...Sheesh.EDIT: Ok I posted that before reading the whole interview....nevermind.

Try watching the video, it'll make you think even less.

 

[mad sweeney]

Not to be outdone by his clients press time, Drew Rosenpenis chimes in:

Rosenhaus

I love it when people say whatever they want and then expect people to believe it was all a misunderstanding. Anyone who watches the video of the interview knows that Portis is saying exactly what he means, he is not being misunderstood. There's no confusion or stuff taken out of context.

And the spin doctors just shovel BS into the press to make it look like something other than what was very clearly stated. No respect for these guys.

"It's his property; it's his dogs," Portis told a Norfolk, Va., television station. "If that's what he wants to do, do it."

But wait, that's not what he meant. What he really was saying...

"He said, 'Drew, I didn't mean for the way that came out. All I was saying, I wasn't condoning dog fighting. I wasn't condoning Michael Vick's conduct. All I was saying is that people should give him the benefit of the doubt until he's been charged or found guilty," Rosenhaus said

.Hmmm. They don't really seem to mean the same thing Clinton. Oh and all the laughing really doesn't make you seem to be very against it.

 

[Pots]

Portis is extremely stupid. How in the hell do people like him get by in college?

Serious? He went to "The U". If those guys don't want to do the work I am sure they don't have to.Have plenty of stories of D-1 athletes getting by with not doing a lick of work in school but that is another topic all together.

Please share.

 

[Guzalot]

The bottom line on this one is simple:

Dog fighting = animal cruelty = felony

The "owner" of an an animal does NOT have the right to do whatever they want. They have the RESPONSIBILITY to care for the animal.

 

[AussieOyOyOy]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

 

[Guzalot]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

Go back about 100 years and substitute "blacks" for "dogs" in your little narrative.

 

[Guzalot]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about Austrailians. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about Austrailians, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about Austrailians. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about Austrailians, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about Austrailians..We're talking about Austrailians, man. We're talking about Austrailians. We're talking about Austrailians. We're not talking about people. We're talking about Austrailians. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about Austrailians, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about Austrailians.

 

[poopdawg]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

Go back about 100 years and substitute "blacks" for "dogs" in your little narrative.

 

[gman8343]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

NOT A

 

[RC94]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

What is your major malfunction?

 

[flapgreen]

It doesn't phase me whatsoever.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I think one point some people are missing: It would not be surprising if a lot more people are involved in dog fighting that we think. To most of us, it is obscure and something we never heard about. My guess is that there is a really underground industry and quite a few NFL players are involved or know about it.The stupid part for Portis: by publicly stating that it's not that bad, it makes it look like he could be part of it.

Really isn't something that is necessarily underground and there are thousands of people who go to dog fights in many major metropolitan areas and in the country down south. The fact dog fighting is happening or that pro athletes are involved is not surprising to me. What surprises me is people like Portis or Vick that defend their actions and involvement publicly. I don't usually dislike athletes on a personal level but Michael Vick is a complete jackass. I'll root for anyone playing the Falcons at this point and hope he fails miserably.

 

[Big Score]

Portis is extremely stupid. How in the hell do people like him get by in college?

Serious? He went to "The U". If those guys don't want to do the work I am sure they don't have to.Have plenty of stories of D-1 athletes getting by with not doing a lick of work in school but that is another topic all together.

Please share.

Maybe you don't remember, but Dexter Manely was drafted by the Washington Redskins out of Oklahoma State University.Manley attended Oklahoma State University for four years, but was illiterate.

Link

Dieon Sanders openly bragged about not attending one single class during his three years at Florida State University.

Jan Kemp, a professor at the University of GA, blew the whistle on fudged SAT scores for athletes & being forced to pass athletes who could barely read or write.

www.uga.edu

The list goes on.

Oh! And Portis is an ignorant fool.

Sad thing is, I'd be willing to bet my left nut, that there's plenty of people who think just like he does. :(

 

[Festus]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

Go back about 100 years and substitute "blacks" for "dogs" in your little narrative.

Black people are equivalent to dogs?

 

[Festus]

From a link provided earlier within this thread. Here's another guy that compares black people to dogs. Guess black people have the same value as dogs.

"Heck, you could even give him a copy of Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man in the hopes that he might see a parallel in the inhumanity between Ellison's battle royal — a brutal free-for-all fought by black men for the entertainment of whites — and a bunch of men standing around and cheering as two dogs tear each other apart." - Kevin Hench

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6836960

 

[Warpig]

We're sitting here, and we're talking about dogs. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about dogs, not a man, not a woman, not a child, but we're talking about dogs. Not the people that I'd go out there and die for, but we're talking about dogs, man. How silly is that? Now, I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving them aside like they don't mean anything. I know they're important, I honestly do, but we're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs, man. We're talking about dogs. We're talking about dogs. We're not talking about people. We're talking about dogs. Hey, I hear you, it's funny to me too. Hey, it's strange to me too but we're talking about dogs, man. We're not even talking about the people who actually matter, we're talking about dogs.

Go back about 100 years and substitute "blacks" for "dogs" in your little narrative.

Black people are equivalent to dogs?

I think the point guzalot is trying to make is that when there was slavery, blacks were probably thought LESS of than a man's dog. And we all know how terribly wrong slavery was right?Now if a dog were attacking a man, I'd have no problem shooting that dog...unless that dog was mine and that man happened to have broken into my house.There is alot of psychological research that proves that people that are insensitive to animals are unbalanced or can be a threat to society (alot of serial killers started off being cruel to animals...they gotta start somewhere).It's sad that people would do this to a dog...especially since that dog would probably risk its life to save its owner.

 

[Festus]

I think the point guzalot is trying to make is that when there was slavery, blacks were probably thought LESS of than a man's dog. And we all know how terribly wrong slavery was right?

How is this relevant today? Is Guzalot now saying that dogs are equal to black people or people in general? Humans who own animals are to be considered as slave masters?

Now if a dog were attacking a man, I'd have no problem shooting that dog...unless that dog was mine and that man happened to have broken into my house.

You have no problem shooting a dog unless it's your dog (under certain circumstances). Why do you have a right to your property but the dogfighter doesn't?

There is alot of psychological research that proves that people that are insensitive to animals are unbalanced or can be a threat to society (alot of serial killers started off being cruel to animals...they gotta start somewhere).

Based on people who were already unbalanced, have anti-social personalities and tendencies. Perceived cruelty to animals is not a valid stance to take when discussing serial killers as it relates to a dogfighter. How many dogfighters have become serial killers?Furthermore, "cruelty to animals" is entirely subjective and based upon aesthetics.

It's sad that people would do this to a dog...especially since that dog would probably risk its life to save its owner.

While sad the dogs are property not belonging to you and you nor anybody have any business dictating what one does with their property as long the actions do not cause detriment to you or your property. In other words, they can fight dogs as long as the dogs they fight are not mine.

 

[Warpig]

I think the point guzalot is trying to make is that when there was slavery, blacks were probably thought LESS of than a man's dog. And we all know how terribly wrong slavery was right?

How is this relevant today? Is Guzalot now saying that dogs are equal to black people or people in general? Humans who own animals are to be considered as slave masters?

Now if a dog were attacking a man, I'd have no problem shooting that dog...unless that dog was mine and that man happened to have broken into my house.

You have no problem shooting a dog unless it's your dog (under certain circumstances). Why do you have a right to your property but the dogfighter doesn't?

There is alot of psychological research that proves that people that are insensitive to animals are unbalanced or can be a threat to society (alot of serial killers started off being cruel to animals...they gotta start somewhere).

Based on people who were already unbalanced, have anti-social personalities and tendencies. Perceived cruelty to animals is not a valid stance to take when discussing serial killers as it relates to a dogfighter. How many dogfighters have become serial killers?Furthermore, "cruelty to animals" is entirely subjective and based upon aesthetics.

It's sad that people would do this to a dog...especially since that dog would probably risk its life to save its owner.

While sad the dogs are property not belonging to you and you nor anybody have any business dictating what one does with their property as long the actions do not cause detriment to you or your property. In other words, they can fight dogs as long as the dogs they fight are not mine.

Ok...so maybe serial killers was a bit too strong. However, I'd be willing to bet a house payment that most of the people that partake in these dog fights carry guns and are of the "thug" mentality and wouldn't hesitate to shoot/kill someone. That...is a threat to society.

 

[Festus]

I think the point guzalot is trying to make is that when there was slavery, blacks were probably thought LESS of than a man's dog. And we all know how terribly wrong slavery was right?

How is this relevant today? Is Guzalot now saying that dogs are equal to black people or people in general? Humans who own animals are to be considered as slave masters?

Now if a dog were attacking a man, I'd have no problem shooting that dog...unless that dog was mine and that man happened to have broken into my house.

You have no problem shooting a dog unless it's your dog (under certain circumstances). Why do you have a right to your property but the dogfighter doesn't?

There is alot of psychological research that proves that people that are insensitive to animals are unbalanced or can be a threat to society (alot of serial killers started off being cruel to animals...they gotta start somewhere).

Based on people who were already unbalanced, have anti-social personalities and tendencies. Perceived cruelty to animals is not a valid stance to take when discussing serial killers as it relates to a dogfighter. How many dogfighters have become serial killers?Furthermore, "cruelty to animals" is entirely subjective and based upon aesthetics.

It's sad that people would do this to a dog...especially since that dog would probably risk its life to save its owner.

While sad the dogs are property not belonging to you and you nor anybody have any business dictating what one does with their property as long the actions do not cause detriment to you or your property. In other words, they can fight dogs as long as the dogs they fight are not mine.

Ok...so maybe serial killers was a bit too strong. However, I'd be willing to bet a house payment that most of the people that partake in these dog fights carry guns and are of the "thug" mentality and wouldn't hesitate to shoot/kill someone. That...is a threat to society.

You just described a police officer. That's quite accurate though. I don't see a problem with a person carrying a gun and unless you've done the research, professional dogfighters generally don't possess a thug mentality. Now, like me, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot/kill someone that was aggressing against me.How many dogfighters have seen (read about) arrested for shooting and killing someone? Or were you merely engaging in suppositions?Is there something wrong with carrying a gun?