Are "So Many Teams Using More Than One RB"? (1 Viewer)

[Fla\/\/ed]

It seems that this year there is a belief that so many teams are using more than one primary RB.

I'm not sure that is true.

Buffalo, Miami, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville(71 carries for Taylor, 20 for Drew), KC, Oakland, San Diego(76 carries for LT and 30 for Turner), Giants, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, San Francisco all have the majority of carries by one running bank.

The only cases where more than one back are used are:

New England, Jets, Houston(at this point Dayne is getting the majority of carries), Indy, Tennessee, Denver(but that is changing), Dallas(barely), Philly(due to Westbrooks injury), Green Bay(due to Green's injury), Seattle(due to Alexanders injury), Carolina( 64 carries for Foster, and 25 for Williams), Washington and New Orleans.

So, the only multiple back systems we have not due to injuries are New England, Indy, New Orleans, Tennessee, Jets, and Washington to some extent.

 

[moleculo]

It seems that this year there is a belief that so many teams are using more than one primary RB.I'm not sure that is true.Buffalo, Miami, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville(71 carries for Taylor, 20 for Drew), KC, Oakland, San Diego(76 carries for LT and 30 for Turner), Giants, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, San Francisco all have the majority of carries by one running bank.The only cases where more than one back are used are:New England, Jets, Houston(at this point Dayne is getting the majority of carries), Indy, Tennessee, Denver(but that is changing), Dallas(barely), Philly(due to Westbrooks injury), Green Bay(due to Green's injury), Seattle(due to Alexanders injury), Carolina( 64 carries for Foster, and 25 for Williams), Washington and New Orleans.So, the only multiple back systems we have not due to injuries are New England, Indy, New Orleans, Tennessee, Jets, and Washington to some extent.

Every team in the league uses multiple RBs to some extent - no RB will get 100% of carries all season. It's simply a matter of how much. RBBC vs single back isn't a black and white thing, it's a shades of grey thing.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

It seems that this year there is a belief that so many teams are using more than one primary RB.I'm not sure that is true.Buffalo, Miami, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville(71 carries for Taylor, 20 for Drew), KC, Oakland, San Diego(76 carries for LT and 30 for Turner), Giants, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, San Francisco all have the majority of carries by one running bank.The only cases where more than one back are used are:New England, Jets, Houston(at this point Dayne is getting the majority of carries), Indy, Tennessee, Denver(but that is changing), Dallas(barely), Philly(due to Westbrooks injury), Green Bay(due to Green's injury), Seattle(due to Alexanders injury), Carolina( 64 carries for Foster, and 25 for Williams), Washington and New Orleans.So, the only multiple back systems we have not due to injuries are New England, Indy, New Orleans, Tennessee, Jets, and Washington to some extent.

Every team in the league uses multiple RBs to some extent - no RB will get 100% of carries all season. It's simply a matter of how much. RBBC vs single back isn't a black and white thing, it's a shades of grey thing.

I never stated a RB would get 100% of the carries.

 

[mrspree15]

Maybe someone should define a cutoff point when a team is using more than one RB

 

[TD Ryan]

I've BOLDED players/teams really do have a feature 1#RB.

I didn't bold situation where either:

- It's a RBBC that has fantasy owners happy (NE, IND)

- It's a non-RBBC where the feature guy is really concerning owners (MIA, TB, OAK, CLE).

Really, if you have a true feature RB who's performing well, you are lucky.

I count 10 of them.

NE - RBBC

BUF - McGahee

NYJ - RBBC

MIA - R Brown (but owners are rightfully worried)

BAL - J Lewis but he's not ripping it up. Musa and MAnderson are a concern

CIN - Rudi

PIT - W Parker

CLE - Droughns, but he's no prize

IND - RBBC

JAX - F Taylor but MJD is a concern

HOU - ?

DEN - T Bell (for now, it is DEN here)

SD - LT (not really worrying about Turner)

KC - LJ

OAK - L Jordan but owners are worried about OAK

PHI - Westy but injuries and Moats/Buck

DAL - JJones with MBIII stealing LOTS, RBBC

WAS - Portis (not really worrying about Betts)

NYG - Tiki (but Jacobs is a concern)

CHI - T Jones (Benson has fallen out)

MIN - C Taylor

GB - RBBC

DET - K Jones

ATL - RBBvickC

NO - RBBC

CAR - Foster but DeAngelo is a concern

TB - Caddy but yikes!

SEA - SA but injury has it RBBC

STL - SJax

ARI - Edge but yikes!

SF - Gore looked great but fumbles and no Robinson vulture

 

[moleculo]

I never stated a RB would get 100% of the carries.

no, but without looking at the #s, it may be that a "primary ball carrier" gets ~70% of RB touches, and a "RBBC" RB gets ~65% of RB touches. Where do you draw the line? Is it even possible to draw the line? I'm not sure that it is.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I've BOLDED players/teams really do have a feature 1#RB.

I didn't bold situation where either:

- It's a RBBC that has fantasy owners happy (NE, IND)

- It's a non-RBBC where the feature guy is really concerning owners (MIA, TB, OAK, CLE).

Really, if you have a true feature RB who's performing well, you are lucky.

I count 10 of them.

NE - RBBC

BUF - McGahee

NYJ - RBBC

MIA - R Brown (but owners are rightfully worried)

BAL - J Lewis but he's not ripping it up. Musa and MAnderson are a concern

CIN - Rudi

PIT - W Parker

CLE - Droughns, but he's no prize

IND - RBBC

JAX - F Taylor but MJD is a concern

HOU - ?

DEN - T Bell (for now, it is DEN here)

SD - LT (not really worrying about Turner)

KC - LJ

OAK - L Jordan but owners are worried about OAK

PHI - Westy but injuries and Moats/Buck

DAL - JJones with MBIII stealing LOTS, RBBC

WAS - Portis (not really worrying about Betts)

NYG - Tiki (but Jacobs is a concern)

CHI - T Jones (Benson has fallen out)

MIN - C Taylor

GB - RBBC

DET - K Jones

ATL - RBBvickC

NO - RBBC

CAR - Foster but DeAngelo is a concern

TB - Caddy but yikes!

SEA - SA but injury has it RBBC

STL - SJax

ARI - Edge but yikes!

SF - Gore looked great but fumbles and no Robinson vulture

Lamont Jordan does not have me concerned. 2 tough matchups to start the year, with Brooks at QB. Walters sucks, but he's better than Brooks. And the schedule gets easier. Last week he reeled off 120 and a TD. Against SF, I'm expecting even more. I still think he's a top 15 draft pick even given the Raiders crappiness.

 

[TD Ryan]

Lamont Jordan does not have me concerned.

fair enough.and maybe T Jones belongs bolded... maybe he doesn't... same with Ronnie Brown.But really, my point is that there are not a lot of #1 fantasy RBs who are putting up good numbers as their team's primary ball carrier.10? maybe 12 of them?

 

[Mike Noyes]

no, but without looking at the #s, it may be that a "primary ball carrier" gets ~70% of RB touches, and a "RBBC" RB gets ~65% of RB touches. Where do you draw the line? Is it even possible to draw the line? I'm not sure that it is.

I think a minimum of 20 carries or 25 touches a game defines a primary running back.Rushing Att/G

For comparison: 2005 Rushing Att/G

2005 Rushing Yards

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Carries-

Buffalo- McGahee 99 Thomas 9

Miami- Brown 68 Suggs 6

NE- Maroney 60 Dillon 58 Faulk 6 Evans 7

Jets- Barlow 50 Houston 14 Washington 17 Blaylock 25

Balt- Lewis 73 Anderson 9 Smith 14

Cin- Johnson 87 Watson 7

Clev- Droughns 50 Wright 18 Harrison 7

Pitt- Parker 71 Haynes 8

Hou- Dayne 47 Lundy 17 Gado 10

Indy- Rhodes 59 Addai 46

Jax- Taylor 71 Drew 20

Tenn- Brown 34 Henry 30 White 18

Den- T. Bell 58 M. Bell 27

KC- Johnson 74

Oak- Jordan 49 Fargas 7

SD- LT 76 Turner 30 Neal 8

Dallas- Jones 60 Barber 20 Thompson 8

NYG- Barber 53 Jacobs 14

Philly- Westbrook 44 Buckhalter 30 Moats 9

Wash- Portis 53 Betts 46 Duckett 5

Chic- Jones 84 Benson 32

Det- Jones 62 Calhoun 2

GB- Green 58 Morency 29 Herron 4

Minn- Taylor 85 Moore 8

Atl- Dunn 82 Norwood 26

Car- Foster 64 Williams 25

NO- McAllister 64 Bush 45

TB- Williams 42 Alstott 4 Pittman 4

Ari- James 88 Arrington 3

St. Pouis- Jackson 90 Davis 9 Fisher 4

SF- Gore 75 Robinson 11

Sea- Slexander 65 Morris 33 Strong 13

 

[MelvinTScupper]

Carries-

Buffalo- McGahee 99 Thomas 9

Miami- Brown 68 Suggs 6

NE- Maroney 60 Dillon 58 Faulk 6 Evans 7

Jets- Barlow 50 Houston 14 Washington 17 Blaylock 25

Balt- Lewis 73 Anderson 9 Smith 14

Cin- Johnson 87 Watson 7

Clev- Droughns 50 Wright 18 Harrison 7

Pitt- Parker 71 Haynes 8

Hou- Dayne 47 Lundy 17 Gado 10

Indy- Rhodes 59 Addai 46

Jax- Taylor 71 Drew 20

Tenn- Brown 34 Henry 30 White 18

Den- T. Bell 58 M. Bell 27

KC- Johnson 74

Oak- Jordan 49 Fargas 7

SD- LT 76 Turner 30 Neal 8

Dallas- Jones 60 Barber 20 Thompson 8

NYG- Barber 53 Jacobs 14

Philly- Westbrook 44 Buckhalter 30 Moats 9

Wash- Portis 53 Betts 46 Duckett 5

Chic- Jones 84 Benson 32

Det- Jones 62 Calhoun 2

GB- Green 58 Morency 29 Herron 4

Minn- Taylor 85 Moore 8

Atl- Dunn 82 Norwood 26

Car- Foster 64 Williams 25

NO- McAllister 64 Bush 45

TB- Williams 42 Alstott 4 Pittman 4

Ari- James 88 Arrington 3

St. Pouis- Jackson 90 Davis 9 Fisher 4

SF- Gore 75 Robinson 11

Sea- Slexander 65 Morris 33 Strong 13

all the bolded have a backup or backups getting 25%+ of the carries.17 teams. That's a lot.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Carries-

Buffalo- McGahee 99 Thomas 9

Miami- Brown 68 Suggs 6

NE- Maroney 60 Dillon 58 Faulk 6 Evans 7

Jets- Barlow 50 Houston 14 Washington 17 Blaylock 25

Balt- Lewis 73 Anderson 9 Smith 14

Cin- Johnson 87 Watson 7

Clev- Droughns 50 Wright 18 Harrison 7

Pitt- Parker 71 Haynes 8

Hou- Dayne 47 Lundy 17 Gado 10

Indy- Rhodes 59 Addai 46

Jax- Taylor 71 Drew 20

Tenn- Brown 34 Henry 30 White 18

Den- T. Bell 58 M. Bell 27

KC- Johnson 74

Oak- Jordan 49 Fargas 7

SD- LT 76 Turner 30 Neal 8

Dallas- Jones 60 Barber 20 Thompson 8

NYG- Barber 53 Jacobs 14

Philly- Westbrook 44 Buckhalter 30 Moats 9

Wash- Portis 53 Betts 46 Duckett 5

Chic- Jones 84 Benson 32

Det- Jones 62 Calhoun 2

GB- Green 58 Morency 29 Herron 4

Minn- Taylor 85 Moore 8

Atl- Dunn 82 Norwood 26

Car- Foster 64 Williams 25

NO- McAllister 64 Bush 45

TB- Williams 42 Alstott 4 Pittman 4

Ari- James 88 Arrington 3

St. Pouis- Jackson 90 Davis 9 Fisher 4

SF- Gore 75 Robinson 11

Sea- Slexander 65 Morris 33 Strong 13

all the bolded have a backup or backups getting 25%+ of the carries.17 teams. That's a lot.

But.....some of the backups are getting carries due to injuries and they were not getting 25% of the carries prior to the primary RB getting hurt.I think your math is down on some of those too....Pittsburgh? Also, are you saying Droughns isn't the primary RB in Cleveland?

 

[MelvinTScupper]

Carries-

Buffalo- McGahee 99 Thomas 9

Miami- Brown 68 Suggs 6

NE- Maroney 60 Dillon 58 Faulk 6 Evans 7

Jets- Barlow 50 Houston 14 Washington 17 Blaylock 25

Balt- Lewis 73 Anderson 9 Smith 14

Cin- Johnson 87 Watson 7

Clev- Droughns 50 Wright 18 Harrison 7

Pitt- Parker 71 Haynes 8

Hou- Dayne 47 Lundy 17 Gado 10

Indy- Rhodes 59 Addai 46

Jax- Taylor 71 Drew 20

Tenn- Brown 34 Henry 30 White 18

Den- T. Bell 58 M. Bell 27

KC- Johnson 74

Oak- Jordan 49 Fargas 7

SD- LT 76 Turner 30 Neal 8

Dallas- Jones 60 Barber 20 Thompson 8

NYG- Barber 53 Jacobs 14

Philly- Westbrook 44 Buckhalter 30 Moats 9

Wash- Portis 53 Betts 46 Duckett 5

Chic- Jones 84 Benson 32

Det- Jones 62 Calhoun 2

GB- Green 58 Morency 29 Herron 4

Minn- Taylor 85 Moore 8

Atl- Dunn 82 Norwood 26

Car- Foster 64 Williams 25

NO- McAllister 64 Bush 45

TB- Williams 42 Alstott 4 Pittman 4

Ari- James 88 Arrington 3

St. Pouis- Jackson 90 Davis 9 Fisher 4

SF- Gore 75 Robinson 11

Sea- Slexander 65 Morris 33 Strong 13

all the bolded have a backup or backups getting 25%+ of the carries.17 teams. That's a lot.

But.....some of the backups are getting carries due to injuries and they were not getting 25% of the carries prior to the primary RB getting hurt.I think your math is down on some of those too....Pittsburgh? Also, are you saying Droughns isn't the primary RB in Cleveland?

Pitt was a mistake, I didn't close the bolding. Fixed it now.And I know some are due to injury, but didn't feel I should pick certain stats to include and which ones not to. I feel Washington is back to a lead back as well.

 

[Mike Noyes]

Philly- Westbrook 44 Buckhalter 30 Moats 9Det- Jones 62 Calhoun 2

Westbrook (44+15)/3 == approx. 20 touches/gameJones (62+21)/4 == approx 21 touches/gameI guess anything over 20 touches a game defines a primary running back.