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Are the Packers better of throwing their game next week (1 Viewer)

The Dude

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The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.

But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.

And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number.

If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.

 
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
 
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Not the Packers. They do not match up well with the Giants at all. I want no part of the Giants in the playoffs as a Packers fan.That said, I'm not tanking a game. Win the game, get the bye (which hopefully will help Woodson and Nelson heal up and be ready) and if it's the Giants again so be it. If they lose to them again they deserve their fate.
 
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Yes - but I would bet that teams would fear NYG more when the playoffs started.
 
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The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Yes - but I would bet that teams would fear NYG more when the playoffs started.
This mystique is bordering superstition.They look TERRIBLE right now. They got rolled by ATL then BAL, 2 teams that many people thought we frauds at their current records.
 
No.

Winning next week guarantees the 2 seed for the Packers, and if the Giants did somehow sneak in, they'd have to win two road games to even play GB in the NFC title game (2 cannot play 6 until the conference title game). Simply put, this is not the same Giants team. If you are the Packers, you beat the VIkings and enjoy the bye week.

 
No.Winning next week guarantees the 2 seed for the Packers, and if the Giants did somehow sneak in, they'd have to win two road games to even play GB in the NFC title game (2 cannot play 6 until the conference title game). Simply put, this is not the same Giants team. If you are the Packers, you beat the VIkings and enjoy the bye week.
:goodposting:
 
It's also worth pointing out that if the Packers lose to the Vikings next week, and SF wins next week, GB would then play Minnesota in the first round, and I don't know any team in the NFL that wants to go up against AD two weeks in a row.

 
Irrelevant. The Giants have already mentally checked out since beating NO, and will lose against Philly next week.

 
It's also worth pointing out that if the Packers lose to the Vikings next week, and SF wins next week, GB would then play Minnesota in the first round, and I don't know any team in the NFL that wants to go up against AD two weeks in a row.
AD = scaryPonder = not scary. The last 5 week: 3 TD's, 4 int's, averaging 135 yards/game. This is a guy I'd want to face in the playoffs.
 
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?

Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.

 
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
 
Also nothing like firing up the other team even more than normal by saying. "Yes Vikings we think you are SOOOOOOO easy to beat that we are going to give you this game so we can not only play you next week but also lose the bye week as well"

 
You play to win the game.

A Packer victory against the Vikes next week also means they go 16-0 against division opponents the past 2 years. Plus earn a bye.

"We" still hate the Vikings.

Dumb question.

 
Umm...no...Packers are better suited now to ay the Giants if they had to.

EDS at center, Lang at LG, and Barclay at RT...is a better line than they were using earlier.

Add in that they are niw running better and getting guys healthy. ..like Clay Matthews who makes a huge difference for the D.

 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
The Packers whooped the favored Falcons at there place 2 years ago as well. How did that turn out?I am not sold on the playoff choking Falcons. Matty "Ice Cold" is more appropriate.ETA: The stars are aligning for Green Bay. They are getting healthy, important, players back at just the right time. A compentent run game, etc. This is not a knock on anyone else in the NFC. It just "seems" that way.That said, the Metrodome is still a tough place to play even if Christian Pounder is the QB.
 
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'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
:goodposting:
 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
People would get fired up sure.... Would there be more butts in the seats? NoYou will have a larger crowd for a Vikings vs Packers playoff game than you do Seahawks vs Packers. Thus more money in both food/beer at the stadium as well as more money to the surrounding area with more people coming to the game from farther away most likely. As opposed to the Seahawks who will travel but not as much as the Vikings will being a 4-12 hours drive away depending on where in the state of MN they live.http://www.packers.com/lambeau-field/stadium-info/history/records.htmlNote 4 of the top 7 were against the VikesThe Packers may always be a "sell out" doesnt mean they actually get all the tickets in hands of people going to the game.
 
No, but the Ravens are almost certainly better losing to ensure they play the -42 point differential Colts instead of the +65 point differential Bengals. If Houston/Baltimore win in the early games, then NE is better off losing in their late game for the same reason.

 
'The Dude said:
And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1
No they couldn't.
You are correct, sir - I was envisioning a Packer lose with the NYG making the playoffs - which cannot happen.Still not 100% that they wouldn't be better off losing this week and knocking NYG out. Of the guys on the bubble - NYG, MN, and CHI - only NYG would have a legit shot at running the table. And right now there is no dominant NFC team.Also being better off does not necessarily mean I think they should throw the game - just the silver lining in losing to MN.
 
With Eli and their D-line playing like doo-doo, NYG are not a scary team. GB also beat them during the regular season in 2010 and 2011.

They have (in theory) a scarier offense than the one-dimensional Bears' and Vikings' attacks, I guess? But they probably won't make it.

 
If given a choice I'd much rather play the Vikings in the playoffs, but I doubt GB throws the game. The Vikings do have AP and a solid defense, but you need a great defense to carry a QB like Ponder in the playoffs. Not to mentioned that Harvin won't be playing and AP could be a little worn out(but I doubt it).

 
It's the NFL. Any team could lose to any team in the playoffs. The only guarantee is you can't lose if you have a bye. The Packers, like the other 31 teams, would prefer a bye than having to play next week. Plus I'm sure they'd prefer to have Jordy Nelson healthier.

 
Hell no, even if the Giants have the Packers number, the Giants won't make it out of the first round, and if they did by some miracle they would have to go to the Falcons in the second round and play a team that just shut them out. The only time they would play the Packers would be in the NFC championship game.

 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
People would get fired up sure.... Would there be more butts in the seats? NoYou will have a larger crowd for a Vikings vs Packers playoff game than you do Seahawks vs Packers. Thus more money in both food/beer at the stadium as well as more money to the surrounding area with more people coming to the game from farther away most likely. As opposed to the Seahawks who will travel but not as much as the Vikings will being a 4-12 hours drive away depending on where in the state of MN they live.http://www.packers.com/lambeau-field/stadium-info/history/records.htmlNote 4 of the top 7 were against the VikesThe Packers may always be a "sell out" doesnt mean they actually get all the tickets in hands of people going to the game.
Um, the same link you included above shows that the largest playoff games have seen bigger crowds than regular season....and playoff games against Seattle and the NYG at Lambeau Field had higher attendance than a playoff game against the Vikings.So what specifically do you think the link proves?
 
Lol...the Giants are terrible. As if any team would give up a first round BYE (EXTREMELY valuable) just to face someone else during the playoffs.

If anything, I'm sure the Packers would welcome a matchup vs the terrible NYG.

 
Dumbest question I've seen in awhile. Why risk a BYE and home-field advantage for at least one match just to avoid the Giants?

 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
People would get fired up sure.... Would there be more butts in the seats? NoYou will have a larger crowd for a Vikings vs Packers playoff game than you do Seahawks vs Packers. Thus more money in both food/beer at the stadium as well as more money to the surrounding area with more people coming to the game from farther away most likely. As opposed to the Seahawks who will travel but not as much as the Vikings will being a 4-12 hours drive away depending on where in the state of MN they live.http://www.packers.com/lambeau-field/stadium-info/history/records.htmlNote 4 of the top 7 were against the VikesThe Packers may always be a "sell out" doesnt mean they actually get all the tickets in hands of people going to the game.
Um, the same link you included above shows that the largest playoff games have seen bigger crowds than regular season....and playoff games against Seattle and the NYG at Lambeau Field had higher attendance than a playoff game against the Vikings.So what specifically do you think the link proves?
I have no idea what this dude is talking about. Game is sold out, regardless, period. Somehow a few dozen seats difference show up one game to the next but this issue overall is a non-factor.What should worry us Packer fans is that the Packers cold-weather advantage has diminished in recent years and we we're winning games by what feels like the skin of out teeth. I no longer feel like Lambeau Week 18 and later is a sure thing and I'm not so sure that Rodgers et al. can carry us deep with a not-so-good defense. Mediocre run game, average WR play outside of Cobb, hardly any TE quality. Yes, Rodgers can make things happen and he's showing a bit of the flair that he showed in 2010. If we go deep, it'll be because of Cobb. Hope he gets healthy fast.
 
No, but the Ravens are almost certainly better losing to ensure they play the -42 point differential Colts instead of the +65 point differential Bengals. If Houston/Baltimore win in the early games, then NE is better off losing in their late game for the same reason.
This. If anyone should be tanking, it's Baltimore or New England. A loss guarantees them the Colts (and improves their odds of going to Houston in the second round, instead of to Denver).
 
'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Wonder how many thought that last year, as the Gmen went on to win the SB?
 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
your name is "packsseasontix", yet I feel from your post that you've never been to a Packer game and have no idea how it works.Every hotel anywhere near Green Bay will be fully books no matter who the playoff opponent is.Every parking lot within walking/shuttle distance of the stadium will be packed with tailgaters (some of whom will be staying there during the game as they don't have tickets).Restaurants/bars will be packed, stores will sell gameday food heavily, booze and soda will sell massively and the whole state will be having Packer parties.It doesn't matter who the Packers are playing at home in the playoffs. Nothing changes as far as $$ goes except for resale $ on stubhub (which the team doesn't get anyways).
 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
People would get fired up sure.... Would there be more butts in the seats? NoYou will have a larger crowd for a Vikings vs Packers playoff game than you do Seahawks vs Packers. Thus more money in both food/beer at the stadium as well as more money to the surrounding area with more people coming to the game from farther away most likely. As opposed to the Seahawks who will travel but not as much as the Vikings will being a 4-12 hours drive away depending on where in the state of MN they live.http://www.packers.com/lambeau-field/stadium-info/history/records.htmlNote 4 of the top 7 were against the VikesThe Packers may always be a "sell out" doesnt mean they actually get all the tickets in hands of people going to the game.
Um, the same link you included above shows that the largest playoff games have seen bigger crowds than regular season....and playoff games against Seattle and the NYG at Lambeau Field had higher attendance than a playoff game against the Vikings.So what specifically do you think the link proves?
I have no idea what this dude is talking about. Game is sold out, regardless, period. Somehow a few dozen seats difference show up one game to the next but this issue overall is a non-factor.What should worry us Packer fans is that the Packers cold-weather advantage has diminished in recent years and we we're winning games by what feels like the skin of out teeth. I no longer feel like Lambeau Week 18 and later is a sure thing and I'm not so sure that Rodgers et al. can carry us deep with a not-so-good defense. Mediocre run game, average WR play outside of Cobb, hardly any TE quality. Yes, Rodgers can make things happen and he's showing a bit of the flair that he showed in 2010. If we go deep, it'll be because of Cobb. Hope he gets healthy fast.
Run game has become better than mediocre and the defense with Matthews back is quite good.
 
'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Wonder how many thought that last year, as the Gmen went on to win the SB?
This isn't last year.
 
'packseasontix said:
'mad sweeney said:
I think a better question is how will the Vikings handle AP's quest. I realize the more he gets the ball, the better the chance they win and that Ponder really, really sucks, but will a quest for 2K and/or the record cloud their game plan?Also, I have a very, very hard time thinking the owners will accept or approve of the idea of deliberately losing the revenue of a home playoff game.
So either way the Packers have the Home Field game, also if anything the city and the team would actually make MORE money if it were a Vikings vs Green Bay game. If Washington travles for instance there will be a few fans but I doubt it would be the crowd you would see if it was the Vikings.In the end by 3PM I think the Bears have probably won and the whole issue is mute. It will either be the Bears or Vikings then and I think the Packers would rather have a 1st round bye than play the Vikings in the Wild Card game.What sounds more fun?Home vs Redskins/Seacrows then @FalconsorHome vs Vikings then @49ers then @Falcons
Are you saying the game would be more sold out with the Vikes? Doesn't make sense. Plus, I imagine the crowd will get up just fine if the Seahawks were there.
People would get fired up sure.... Would there be more butts in the seats? NoYou will have a larger crowd for a Vikings vs Packers playoff game than you do Seahawks vs Packers. Thus more money in both food/beer at the stadium as well as more money to the surrounding area with more people coming to the game from farther away most likely. As opposed to the Seahawks who will travel but not as much as the Vikings will being a 4-12 hours drive away depending on where in the state of MN they live.http://www.packers.com/lambeau-field/stadium-info/history/records.htmlNote 4 of the top 7 were against the VikesThe Packers may always be a "sell out" doesnt mean they actually get all the tickets in hands of people going to the game.
Um, the same link you included above shows that the largest playoff games have seen bigger crowds than regular season....and playoff games against Seattle and the NYG at Lambeau Field had higher attendance than a playoff game against the Vikings.So what specifically do you think the link proves?
I have no idea what this dude is talking about. Game is sold out, regardless, period. Somehow a few dozen seats difference show up one game to the next but this issue overall is a non-factor.What should worry us Packer fans is that the Packers cold-weather advantage has diminished in recent years and we we're winning games by what feels like the skin of out teeth. I no longer feel like Lambeau Week 18 and later is a sure thing and I'm not so sure that Rodgers et al. can carry us deep with a not-so-good defense. Mediocre run game, average WR play outside of Cobb, hardly any TE quality. Yes, Rodgers can make things happen and he's showing a bit of the flair that he showed in 2010. If we go deep, it'll be because of Cobb. Hope he gets healthy fast.
Run game has become better than mediocre and the defense with Matthews back is quite good.
The defense hasn't been tested by a legit offense in quite some time either.
 
'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Wonder how many thought that last year, as the Gmen went on to win the SB?
This isn't last year.
Thank you.
 
'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Wonder how many thought that last year, as the Gmen went on to win the SB?
This isn't last year.
But what's your point? R u stating that you would rather play NYG in the playoffs this year? You might think that - but you would be nuts
 
Dumbest question I've seen in awhile. Why risk a BYE and home-field advantage for at least one match just to avoid the Giants?
While, technically, there are no dumb questions...if there were, this would be atop the list.Who the hell has ever deliberately tanked in football heading into their playoff run? Let alone with a first round bye on the line?
 
'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Wonder how many thought that last year, as the Gmen went on to win the SB?
This isn't last year.
But what's your point? R u stating that you would rather play NYG in the playoffs this year? You might think that - but you would be nuts
My point is they are not playing as we'll as last year so bringing that up is foolish given how they went into the playoffs last year vs how they would be limping in this year.
 
'mr roboto said:
'The Dude said:
The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
I believe most teams would rather play NYG right now than MN.
Wonder how many thought that last year, as the Gmen went on to win the SB?
This isn't last year.
But what's your point? R u stating that you would rather play NYG in the playoffs this year? You might think that - but you would be nuts
My point is they are not playing as we'll as last year so bringing that up is foolish given how they went into the playoffs last year vs how they would be limping in this year.
I understand your point - but NYG is still way more dangerous than MN or Chi. If they got in - and they likely wont - they would be as good as any to represent the NFC. Oddsmakers would favor others - but their odds would be way better than most 6th seeds.Just by getting in, you have to assume they have turned the ship somewhat around as they would need a win this weekend. I could see them blow Philly out of the stadium this week.My team is the Bears - but I would love to see NYG get in. Bears would be one and done - NYG would make it fun.
 
The defense hasn't been tested by a legit offense in quite some time either.
True enough...but gb is a different team with Matthews.
Agreed, like any defense would be different getting the best player back.I would argue that Woodson/Nelson should play this week. Assuming a win and first round bye, it will be difficult for them to be affective in the divisional playoff game with no game experience for a long time(think Greg Jennings last year vs NYG in divisional round).Also, is GB cutting Saturday in the offseason?
 
The defense hasn't been tested by a legit offense in quite some time either.
True enough...but gb is a different team with Matthews.
Agreed, like any defense would be different getting the best player back.I would argue that Woodson/Nelson should play this week. Assuming a win and first round bye, it will be difficult for them to be affective in the divisional playoff game with no game experience for a long time(think Greg Jennings last year vs NYG in divisional round).Also, is GB cutting Saturday in the offseason?
No way they keep Saturday.Im not counting on Woodson at this point. Id rathere see him as the backup safety right now.
 
Giants, Vikings, Bears...

I don't care who your QB is, if you can't stop a pass from being completed (last year) or can't keep your QB from getting dusted every dropback (this year), you're going to be lucky to win a playoff game.

And I'm convinced McCarthy has no idea how to coach a team through a bye week.

 
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The only complicating fact is that GB can get a round one bye.But I am not certain that the bye is more valuable than keeping the Giants out of the playoffs. Giants get in with a win and losses by Vikings (GB), Bears (DET), Cowboys (WAS) - a very real possibility.And if they get in, they could go to Green Bay in round 1 - and they have GB's number. If GB throws the game, I believe they would be home for MN the following week.
seriously?
 
Giants, Vikings, Bears...

I don't care who your QB is, if you can't stop a pass from being completed (last year) or can't keep your QB from getting dusted every dropback (this year), you're going to be lucky to win a playoff game.

And I'm convinced McCarthy has no idea how to coach a team through a bye week.
My link
Since McCarthy took over in 2006, Green Bay has a 38-20 overall record (.655) after the bye. Since 2009, the Packers are 21-7 (.750) after the bye.
Seems pretty good to me. :shrug:

ETA: Last year McCarthy did screw up in the last week of the regular season by sitting the starters giving them 2 weeks of counting the bye. That was a big mistake. But as his record shows, coming out of a bye week they are pretty damn good.

 
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