IvanKaramazov
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I agree.
Now look at the current version of the GOP and tell me to what degree both parties agree with us.
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Are you pro-Biden or anti-Biden? (1 Viewer)
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Now look at the current version of the GOP and tell me to what degree both parties agree with us.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I don’t want to hijack this thread but this strikes me as pretty out there. Most policy decisions don’t have clear right and wrong answers, it’s about weighing various competing considerations against one another. Given my values and my priorities, I think I’m probably at least 95% right about the direction that policy needs to go to achieve those priorities. Policy debates aren’t akin to choosing a fantasy football team, they’re like designing the rules of your fantasy football league. Your perception of whether a rule is “right” or “wrong” are largely dependent upon what your idiosyncratic preferences are — there are rarely objectively “right” or “wrong” decisions made at that stage.
The Commish
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
When I think "big fan" I think of overwhelming support above and beyond because the individual goes above and beyond and exceeds my expectations. Biden is getting us back to a sense of normalcy, which I greatly appreciate, but that I also demand/expect. We can't allow ourselves to shift our bar so low that the basic expectations are now above any beyond expectations.
Vaccine roll out has been pretty well done. He's crapped his pants at the border adding his name to a laundry list. The most positive thing he's done is the roll out for sure. I think the second most positive thing he's done is made his stuttering the pressing issue of the day that apparently is very concerning to a great many. That's a step up from "does he really have the nuclear codes".
Stealthycat
Footballguy
I'm against just about everything Biden and Democrats stand for so I have to vote anti-Biden
I hope he far exceeds my expectations but so far he's an utter failure so ...
I hope he far exceeds my expectations but so far he's an utter failure so ...
matuski
Footballguy
dozer
Footballguy
Trump was a terrible President, and probably one of the worst Americans ever, but he was elected in a free and fair election.
The attempts to remove him from office were entirely legal and appropriate.
matuski
Footballguy
Okay, let's distinguish between policies that have right or wrong answers (they seek to address generally agreed-upon goals and either succeed or fail in doing so), and policies that simply reflect subjective preferences. (And I'm talking about situations where the populace is roughly evenly split, not where there's a 90-10 disparity.)
In the latter category, policy stuff doesn't matter precisely because there are no objectively right or wrong answers, just subjective preferences. Placing a significant emphasis on achieving your own policy goals, simply because they are your own, seems very much like saving your own dog over a human stranger simply because it is your own. Achieving your own subjective preferences is fine if there's no tradeoff against achieving somebody else's instead, but if there's a tradeoff, it seems like a wash.
In the former category, policy stuff doesn't matter because, even though there may be a right or wrong answer (some fantasy defense will outscore some other fantasy defense), you can't rationally be highly confident that you know which answer is the right one.
People generally think that they're way above average at evaluating controversial policy issues, but people also generally think they're all well-above-average drivers. An awful lot of people are deluding themselves.
It's far easier to evaluate fantasy RBs than Team Defenses because, for example, it's a lot easier to predict which RBs will get a lot of snaps and touches. So spend your first-round pick on a running back, not a defense.
It's very hard to evaluate whether a politician should take this foreign policy position or that one. That's rather complicated. But it's relatively easy to evaluate whether a politician should lie a lot, or obstruct justice, or attack the free press, etc. When politicians create separation from their opponents on the easy stuff, that's what should drive our voting preferences. We're far less likely to make mistakes if we focus on the easy stuff. Controversial policy issues are seldom easy (unless you think "dog" is an easy choice).
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dozer
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zoonation
Footballguy
I voted neither. But mostly because I am not American. I am definitely an anti-Trump guy though. For al the reasons Maurile has already articulated. Good character is, in my opinion, a necessary but not sufficient requirement to hold office. Especially the Presidency. Trump has the worst character of anyone that has ever run for or held the office, and it is not particularly close. And, in the four short years he held the office, he may have done irreparable harm to American democracy, which many predicted he would before he "took" the oath of office.
matuski
Footballguy
Politics aren't something I get emotional about.. I can't relate and don't want to relate.dozer said:
Russian collusion = stolen election. Nothing burgers meant to rile up a partisan emotional base of voters. Shocking how many of y'all on both sides take the bait. It isn't even subtle anymore, it is literally fed to you as a partisan topic.
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