Arian Foster inactive Week #1 (1 Viewer)

[Grahamburn]

What week does Foster re-injure the hamstring, over/under?

 

[Shutout]

Well, I wish all you Foster owners luck, but I am so glad I passed him up for Ray Rice. There's no reason to think Foster is going to put up the same numbers as last year even without the hammy issue. Some people here think this guy changes in a phone booth before taking the field.

nope, none

Well, there's not. In fact, he has a better chance of finishing outside the top three than in it, and if you think otherwise, you're probably new to Fantasy Football. He's not surprising any team he faces this year, and every one of them have game planned for him. It's not to say he wont be a great RB, but you're crazy if you don't lower your expectations from last year.

I like to call this the Terrell davis syndrome. Statistically, you are correct: he has a better chance of finishing outside the top 3 than in...but then again, everyone does. But sometimes, you just have to trust what you know (cause you've been watching all the games the past few years) and just say, just like Terrell Davis (and many others over the years), SOMETIMES a player can have an incredible year and be a workhorse on a good offensive team and then he CAN come back the next few years and do it again (sometimes even better).

Foster carried the ball 78% of the Texans carries last year. That IS a high number and I can see the team saying they would cut it down to ~70% (in line with more of the typical lead RBs in the league), but with that being said, I can also see the Texans having more opportunities to carry this year and so it becomes a wash (the Texans were middle of the pack last year in carries in the league).

 

[GroveDiesel]

What week does Foster re-injure the hamstring, over/under?

I don't know, but that would be the same week to put rizzler on suicide watch.

 

[Grahamburn]

What week does Foster re-injure the hamstring, over/under?

I don't know, but that would be the same week to put rizzler on suicide watch.

:headexplode:

 

[rizzler]

What week does Foster re-injure the hamstring, over/under?

I don't know, but that would be the same week to put rizzler on suicide watch.

I'm already being monitored by 2 full time staff, at all times.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

What week does Foster re-injure the hamstring, over/under?

I don't know, but that would be the same week to put rizzler on suicide watch.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Well, I wish all you Foster owners luck, but I am so glad I passed him up for Ray Rice. There's no reason to think Foster is going to put up the same numbers as last year even without the hammy issue. Some people here think this guy changes in a phone booth before taking the field.

nope, none

Be careful with Foster this week, that is all that I will say at this time. Remember I was the first to say Foster would not play last week and to start Tate.

You were also the guy who suggested I start Mathews over Tolbert last week.

Did you listen?

 

[rizzler]

Well, I wish all you Foster owners luck, but I am so glad I passed him up for Ray Rice. There's no reason to think Foster is going to put up the same numbers as last year even without the hammy issue. Some people here think this guy changes in a phone booth before taking the field.

nope, none

Be careful with Foster this week, that is all that I will say at this time. Remember I was the first to say Foster would not play last week and to start Tate.

You were also the guy who suggested I start Mathews over Tolbert last week.

Did you listen?

Suggested:Tate over Tolbert

Ocho over harvin and plax

DWill over Ward

Tate over Benson (I'm being a dink w/this one)

Big ben over stafford (WOWZA)

Tampa Mike over Dez...

I stopped there... that was just page 1.

edit: page 2 has some DOOZIES...

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Well, I wish all you Foster owners luck, but I am so glad I passed him up for Ray Rice. There's no reason to think Foster is going to put up the same numbers as last year even without the hammy issue. Some people here think this guy changes in a phone booth before taking the field.

nope, none

Be careful with Foster this week, that is all that I will say at this time. Remember I was the first to say Foster would not play last week and to start Tate.

You were also the guy who suggested I start Mathews over Tolbert last week.

Did you listen?

Suggested:Tate over Tolbert

Ocho over harvin and plax

DWill over Ward

Tate over Benson (I'm being a dink w/this one)

Big ben over stafford (WOWZA)

Tampa Mike over Dez...

I stopped there... that was just page 1.

edit: page 2 has some DOOZIES...

Yep not 100% correct, but 80% and Ben Tate to the Bank will do.

 

[Dismattle]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[pantherclub]

Rizzler just jumped off the ledge because you know everything Kubiack says is true.

 

[Tango]

I just traded Foster.

I have owned him since pre-season of his rookie year; yup, i used a precious roster spot on him when he was buried on the practice squad behind Ahman Green, Slaton, and others.

Nevermind what I got back in the trade b/c it would be hard to decipher the value here in my auction-dynasty league.

The key factor for me to pull the trigger and trade Foster? Peyton's injury and the score of the week 1 game. Maybe that wasnt the key factor, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back. The Texans have a better chance than any team in the league IMHO to go 6-0 in the division and have a higher probability than any team IMHO to rest players in December. Combine that with the 2-time recurrence of the hammy and the emergence of back-ups and I felt it was wise to make a move.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Well, I wish all you Foster owners luck, but I am so glad I passed him up for Ray Rice. There's no reason to think Foster is going to put up the same numbers as last year even without the hammy issue. Some people here think this guy changes in a phone booth before taking the field.

nope, none

Be careful with Foster this week, that is all that I will say at this time. Remember I was the first to say Foster would not play last week and to start Tate.

You were also the guy who suggested I start Mathews over Tolbert last week.

Did you listen?

Suggested:Tate over Tolbert

Ocho over harvin and plax

DWill over Ward

Tate over Benson (I'm being a dink w/this one)

Big ben over stafford (WOWZA)

Tampa Mike over Dez...

I stopped there... that was just page 1.

edit: page 2 has some DOOZIES...

Yep not 100% correct, but 80% and Ben Tate to the Bank will do.

80% what? Wrong? Thats what it looks like.. lol

 

[Football Critic]

Arian Foster says he plans to play.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/15/arian-foster-says-he-plans-to-play/

 

[Carolina Hustler]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

 

[Shutout]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room. It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

 

[Apple Jack]

Remember, Kubiak was vague and was talking to Miami reporters. And starting Tate does not necessarily mean he'll get the bulk of the carries. It could just be Kubiak's way of rewarding Tate for a good job. It's possible that it's just a ceremonial thing. I'll be surprised if Tate ends up with as many carries as Foster, and I'll be surprised if he ends up with anywhere close to as many carries next week.

 

[Grahamburn]

Foster owners are freaking out..

 

[Banger]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room. It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Guys lose their jobs to injury all the time...Torrain being the latest example...was the #1, now he's #3. Hell, Slaton lost his job on this team under this coach to Foster because of his injury. Foster isn't losing his job nor do I think he goes into a job share. He's still coming off an injury and would likely not get the full load anyway so you throw Tate a bone for a good game and get Foster some carries. Don't forget though that Tate was drafted by this staff last year, then he got hurt in the preseason and now he's finally healthy. Foster did a terrific job last year but Tate isn't chopped liver as he's got a similar game and running style to Foster. I think Tate is a threat, not to take the job from Foster, but could definitely cut into Fosters strangehold on the touches that he had last year. The door is now opened, Tate got his shot ran with it and obviously impressed the coaching staff. The two will run side by side every Sunday, performance from here on out will be interesting to watch. Crazier things have definitely happened.If Foster were to pull a C. Johnson he'd still be sitting because the proof is in the pudding...Tate/others can carry the rock effectively behind that line. Foster is a good RB but he's not an elite talent among RBs and the Texans have much better options than the Titans do.

 

[joffer]

Remember, Kubiak was vague and was talking to Miami reporters. And starting Tate does not necessarily mean he'll get the bulk of the carries. It could just be Kubiak's way of rewarding Tate for a good job. It's possible that it's just a ceremonial thing. I'll be surprised if Tate ends up with as many carries as Foster, and I'll be surprised if he ends up with anywhere close to as many carries next week.

Wyatt: "Gary, why are we wearing bras on our heads?"

Gary: "...................ceremonial"

 

[GroveDiesel]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity.

I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Guys lose their jobs to injury all the time...Torrain being the latest example...was the #1, now he's #3. Hell, Slaton lost his job to Foster because of his injury. Foster isn't losing his job nor do I think he shares his job. He's still coming off an injury and would likely not get the full load anyway so you throw Tate a bone for a good game and get Foster some carries. Don't forget though that Tate was drafted by this staff last year, then he got hurt in the preseason and now he's finally healthy. Foster did a terrific job last year but Tate isn't chopped liver as he's got a similar game and running style to Foster. I think Tate is a threat, not to take the job from Foster, but could definitely cut into Fosters strangehold on the touches that he had last year. The door is opened and the two will run side by side every Sunday, performance from here on out will be interesting to watch. Crazier things have definitely happened.

If Foster were to pull a C. Johnson he'd still be sitting because the proof is in the pudding...Tate/others can carry the rock effectively behind that line. Foster is a good RB but he's not an elite talent among RBs.

That is very arguable, and I personally wholeheartedly disagree. I dont care how good the OL is, if you get 2200 yards and 18 TDs and lead the NFL in rushing, you are an elite running back. Without doing any research, I am doubting that there have been too many (any?) NFL rushing leaders that would not be considered elite.Also - I disagree that Foster would still be sitting if he held out. He certainly would not have gotten paid like CJ or AP, but with Kubiak's job very much hanging on this season, and a completely unproven Ben Tate as well as a very pedestrian Derick Ward as the options, Foster would have gotten paid. Well.

 

[Banger]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Guys lose their jobs to injury all the time...Torrain being the latest example...was the #1, now he's #3. Hell, Slaton lost his job to Foster because of his injury. Foster isn't losing his job nor do I think he shares his job. He's still coming off an injury and would likely not get the full load anyway so you throw Tate a bone for a good game and get Foster some carries. Don't forget though that Tate was drafted by this staff last year, then he got hurt in the preseason and now he's finally healthy. Foster did a terrific job last year but Tate isn't chopped liver as he's got a similar game and running style to Foster. I think Tate is a threat, not to take the job from Foster, but could definitely cut into Fosters strangehold on the touches that he had last year. The door is opened and the two will run side by side every Sunday, performance from here on out will be interesting to watch. Crazier things have definitely happened.

If Foster were to pull a C. Johnson he'd still be sitting because the proof is in the pudding...Tate/others can carry the rock effectively behind that line. Foster is a good RB but he's not an elite talent among RBs.

That is very arguable, and I personally wholeheartedly disagree. I dont care how good the OL is, if you get 2200 yards and 18 TDs and lead the NFL in rushing, you are an elite running back. Without doing any research, I am doubting that there have been too many (any?) NFL rushing leaders that would not be considered elite.Also - I disagree that Foster would still be sitting if he held out. He certainly would not have gotten paid like CJ or AP, but with Kubiak's job very much hanging on this season, and a completely unproven Ben Tate as well as a very pedestrian Derick Ward as the options, Foster would have gotten paid. Well.

Tate who didn't start the game and essentially played one half is on pace for 1850 yards and 16 tds...just sayin

 

[We Tigers]

Wait...all this "TATE WILL START" stuff is from that link? Kubiak never says a thing about Tate starting, just that he's earned playing time and did well. "Tate may start" is spec from a Dolphins' blogger. Let's not be silly here.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity.

I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

Not buying either option, because Foster IS AN ELITE TALENT. If you watched him run last season, you saw this and understand that he is a great RB in every sense. But even if you didnt watch him, look at his numbers. They are sick. Maybe Ben Tate is special too, and maybe he can put up similar numbers in that offense, but if my job is on the line, I am hitching my fortunes to the proven commodity rather than playing games in the hope that I can drive down the price tag of an elite player so that the next coach can get him at a discounted rate.

 

[Banger]

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Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity.

I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

Not buying either option, because Foster IS AN ELITE TALENT. If you watched him run last season, you saw this and understand that he is a great RB in every sense. But even if you didnt watch him, look at his numbers. They are sick. Maybe Ben Tate is special too, and maybe he can put up similar numbers in that offense, but if my job is on the line, I am hitching my fortunes to the proven commodity rather than playing games in the hope that I can drive down the price tag of an elite player so that the next coach can get him at a discounted rate.

Larry Johnson? 2200 yards 19 tds.... He was the best thing since sliced bread behind that line....the line fell apart over the next few years and he never ran for 1000 yards again.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity.

I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

Not buying either option, because Foster IS AN ELITE TALENT. If you watched him run last season, you saw this and understand that he is a great RB in every sense. But even if you didnt watch him, look at his numbers. They are sick. Maybe Ben Tate is special too, and maybe he can put up similar numbers in that offense, but if my job is on the line, I am hitching my fortunes to the proven commodity rather than playing games in the hope that I can drive down the price tag of an elite player so that the next coach can get him at a discounted rate.

Larry Johnson? 2200 yards 19 tds.... He was the best thing since sliced bread behind that line....the line fell apart over the next few years and he never ran for 1000 yards again.

I will sort of give you that one, but LJ had injury issues and never started more than 12 games after his 2 dominant seasons. If you want to go all Nostradamus on us and predict that the same will happen to Foster, then that is a different discussion. Also, he was 28 years old when his decline began. He got a bit of a late start due to Priest Holmes. Foster is 25.

 

[Banger]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity.

I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

Not buying either option, because Foster IS AN ELITE TALENT. If you watched him run last season, you saw this and understand that he is a great RB in every sense. But even if you didnt watch him, look at his numbers. They are sick. Maybe Ben Tate is special too, and maybe he can put up similar numbers in that offense, but if my job is on the line, I am hitching my fortunes to the proven commodity rather than playing games in the hope that I can drive down the price tag of an elite player so that the next coach can get him at a discounted rate.

Larry Johnson? 2200 yards 19 tds.... He was the best thing since sliced bread behind that line....the line fell apart over the next few years and he never ran for 1000 yards again.

I will sort of give you that one, but LJ had injury issues and never started more than 12 games after his 2 dominant seasons. If you want to go all Nostradamus on us and predict that the same will happen to Foster, then that is a different discussion. Also, he was 28 years old when his decline began. He got a bit of a late start due to Priest Holmes. Foster is 25.

I'm not predicting anything just showing a guy that ran behind a dominant line and put up ridiculous numbers (who replaced another guy (Holmes) that also put up ridiculous numbers)...it happens and that's how I view Foster. I could be wrong but if Foster were to go to Denver I don't see him being the type of RB that would carry an offense by himself. Getting off track here though....I guess my point is that Tate opened the coaches eyes and started the season as mr. irrelevant and may end up having a role and huge potential upside in the event of injury. He's the #1 handcuff in FF IMO.

 

[Shutout]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Kubiak-hints-at-Tate-starting-over-Foster.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Nice.. lol.. Glad I didn't draft Foster anywhere.. Have Tate in a couple though.If Foster is truly ready to go, and Kubiak starts Tate, I will be very surprised. Maybe Foster isn't ready even after practicing. Or, Maybe Kubiak picked up some habits from Shanny..

I honestly believe that would be the omen of Kubiak getting fired if that actually happened.A move like that would disrupt the locker room.

It would make players very unsettled about their own jobs.

The common axiom in the NFL is its a violent game with injuries and you don't lose your job to injuries. Sure, if your QB is out the rest of the year and a guy steps in and takes advantage that is undeniable, that's one thing. But I ahven't seen Tate do anything that foster doesn't do as well or better (but I have seen tate fumble). But you can't have every player on the team tweaking an ankle and having to deal with that.

At some point, Kubiak has to answer the question (especially if they were to not win games) as to "why are you not starting the league's leading rusher?"

On and on and on, I can think of lots of reasons why I don't see this sticking.

But, IF it did, all that tells me is that Arian Foster probably ends up as the starting RB for the Broncos or Redskins or someone next year because if they did that to him, he would leave and there are more than one team out there that would like to have Arian foster, I assure you.

If anything, I think this more of a statement that applies to jacoby Jones starting and taking advantage of his chance this week more than I do it being with tate.

Guys lose their jobs to injury all the time...Torrain being the latest example...was the #1, now he's #3. Hell, Slaton lost his job on this team under this coach to Foster because of his injury. Foster isn't losing his job nor do I think he goes into a job share. He's still coming off an injury and would likely not get the full load anyway so you throw Tate a bone for a good game and get Foster some carries. Don't forget though that Tate was drafted by this staff last year, then he got hurt in the preseason and now he's finally healthy. Foster did a terrific job last year but Tate isn't chopped liver as he's got a similar game and running style to Foster. I think Tate is a threat, not to take the job from Foster, but could definitely cut into Fosters strangehold on the touches that he had last year. The door is now opened, Tate got his shot ran with it and obviously impressed the coaching staff. The two will run side by side every Sunday, performance from here on out will be interesting to watch. Crazier things have definitely happened.

If Foster were to pull a C. Johnson he'd still be sitting because the proof is in the pudding...Tate/others can carry the rock effectively behind that line. Foster is a good RB but he's not an elite talent among RBs and the Texans have much better options than the Titans do.

Yeah, "guys" do..but league leading rushers, not so much.

 

[rizzler]

Lol.

That's it.

LOL.

 

[GregR]

...Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity. I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

The Texans didn't have cap room to give Foster a new contract. They had much bigger needs at corner and safety, and ended up $8m over the cap addressing those and had to restructure contracts.I also think any team would want to see a second year of elite play out of a player before giving him elite contract money. If I were the team I would wait this year and next year tender him the 1st and 3rd round level while trying to work out a long term contract. If someone pays him more than I'm willing, I'll take the draft picks then.

 

[RUSF18]

...Great point. He is a free agent next year (restricted), and if they want him to stick around, they would be wise to play him. He is playing this season for $525K - a ludicrous bargain for Houston. If he chose to, he could have pulled a Chris Johnson move and gotten a monster contract, but he chose not to be a disruption and to prove himself for another season. If they dont give him an adequate shot at proving himself to be an elite RB, then he will certainly not be feeling very charitable next season when it comes time to look for a new contract.

Don't you think that this could be seen in a negative light for Foster as well? If he's playing in his last year of his contract, and the Texans haven't seen fit to give him a big extension, then maybe they don't feel that it's Foster's talent that was the primary contributor to the success of the running game, but that of the offensive line. If that's the case, then why wouldn't they go with somewhat of a RBBC?Or, the flip side, if the Texans really think that Foster is a talented back but don't want to pay him too much too soon, but don't want to lose him to a huge FA offer, then the team has an incentive to limit his carries to the minimum needed to win games while giving Tate and Ward more mop up duties. This would help control Foster's stats somewhat and make him a slightly less attractive free agent commodity. I don't necessarily think that either of those possibilities are all THAT probable (option 1 is much more probable than option 2 IMO), but if you're going to consider the potential positives of playing in his last year of his contract, you have to consider the potential negatives as well.

The Texans didn't have cap room to give Foster a new contract. They had much bigger needs at corner and safety, and ended up $8m over the cap addressing those and had to restructure contracts.I also think any team would want to see a second year of elite play out of a player before giving him elite contract money. If I were the team I would wait this year and next year tender him the 1st and 3rd round level while trying to work out a long term contract. If someone pays him more than I'm willing, I'll take the draft picks then.

Which is another reason why Foster didn't hold out and didn't even fuss about a new contract. He knew he had to back up his performance from last year, and said just that. And before someone says anything, he could lose 20% of last year's performance and still get paid.

 

[jackdubl]

Foster owners are freaking out..

No Sh##! Let's just chill out people. I mean, there are more than a few saying this will now turn into a RBBC because Tate had a decent game against a terrible run D. It's kinda laughable. If Ward had been healthy last week when Tate fumbled near his own goalline, leading to Indy's only score, then he would have finished the game out and everyone would be talking about Tate in the doghouse. Tate also would have had about 40-50 fewer yards and Ward would have had more. Let's all relax a little.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

Even if he returns this week, I doubt he'll get the full load. He's probably gonna test out the hammy and save it for next week against the Saints...

According to several twitter sources he took a full load of practice reps today

Or according to Kubiak who JUST SAID he will not ease him back him.. If he's in, he's in.Do people purposely neglect fact in exachange for their own whimsical predictions?

Hey buddy, is it foot in mouth time?

 

[gethugefast1]

Arian Foster - RB - Texans Sep 16 - 2:04 PM

Texans coach Gary Kubiak backed off his early-week comments by saying Friday that Arian Foster (hamstring) won't get a normal snap count in Week 2.

Kubiak insisted that Ben Tate "is definitely going to play." Of Foster, Kubiak added, "He looks ready to play. He's had a good week. I think he'll be fine." The Texans now appear likely to use a committee backfield against the Dolphins, attempting to limit Foster's touches and snaps in an effort to avoid the possibility of a setback. We would still expect Foster to start the game, despite speculation otherwise from ESPN's John Clayton. You just have to consider Foster more of a risky RB2 than a locked-in RB1.

Source: Nick Scurfield on Twitter

Arian Foster - RB - Texans Arian Sep 16 - 3:51 PM

Foster (hamstring) is officially listed as questionable for Week 2 after a third straight limited practice Friday.

"He had a really good day yesterday and today," said coach Gary Kubiak. "... As long as there's no setbacks, he's ready to go. ... I think the key right here right now for me the next 48 hours is what type of play count I put on him and watch him from that standpoint, but all signs are he's ready to go." Kubiak acknowledged that Foster won't play "60 snaps," and won't be the "90-percent" play-time back he usually is. But he's certainly on track to be active against the Dolphins, and is expected to start the game.

Arian Foster - RB - Texans Sep 16 - 4:31 PM

John McClain of the Houston Chronicle reports that the Texans are targeting 20 Week 2 touches for Arian Foster (questionable, hamstring), and 10 for Ben Tate off the bench.

McClain also believes Foster is a shoo-in to start against the Dolphins. "Gary Kubiak likes Foster to get at least 25 touches," McClain notes. "Cause he's been out, I bet it'll be somewhere around 20, depending on how game goes." According to McClain, Foster "could have started" in Week 1 against the Colts had it been a playoff game. Foster needs to be penciled into fantasy lineups for now, and monitored into Sunday morning.

Source: John McClain on Twitter