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wormburner said:
wormburner said:
if you could hedge a bet for free, why not?
Man up, pick a side. ;)
why
That's life. I think Thoreau's "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." is a geeky way of saying that going through life breaking even sucks.
for everyone or him? i've never met the guy
if you are saying that pertains to every one that has ever lived…. i dunno about that.
and what gives him the right to judge me?

 
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
if you could hedge a bet for free, why not?
Man up, pick a side. ;)
why
That's life. I think Thoreau's "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." is a geeky way of saying that going through life breaking even sucks.
for everyone or him? i've never met the guy
And if you did? You disagree with the quote?
it might be true to some and not for others. We aren't all the same

 
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
if you could hedge a bet for free, why not?
Man up, pick a side. ;)
why
That's life. I think Thoreau's "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." is a geeky way of saying that going through life breaking even sucks.
for everyone or him? i've never met the guy
And if you did? You disagree with the quote?
it might be true to some and not for others. We aren't all the same
he has no right to judge what i wanna do

 
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
wormburner said:
if you could hedge a bet for free, why not?
Man up, pick a side. ;)
why
That's life. I think Thoreau's "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." is a geeky way of saying that going through life breaking even sucks.
for everyone or him? i've never met the guy
And if you did? You disagree with the quote?
it might be true to some and not for others. We aren't all the same
he has no right to judge what i wanna do
You are right, there is no law against mediocrity. Or whatever a life might be called that was spent breaking even. ;)
who are u to judge what mediocrity is? who made u god?

 
Maybe it's me, but I always understood major religions to only "save" people who actually believe. So going through the motions doesn't do anything for you.

 
Agreed. Can you make Pascal's wager though if you truly think religion is crock of ####? I've asked myself this question many times.
my point is why not just sign up for one. who cares if u don't believe, just hope
Sure looks like you're advocating for signing up for a religion here. You want me to sign up for a god?
i think you are putting words in my mouth. i can make my own tonight if i want, yes?

 
OK, you want a straight answer, pumpnick? First off, I think there is absolutely no reason to think that there is any god or any afterlife. However, you're wanting folks like me to make a wager just in case I'm wrong. Correct? Ok, so I'm betting that living a good life and treating others fairly gives me a better chance at earning an eternal reward than picking one of the thousands of religions/gods that somebody else tells me about and worshiping that one in hopes that I picked the right one. Simple math.

 
wormburner said:
Pumpnick said:
who are u to judge what mediocrity is? who made u god?
Are you a Millennial? You're being a little overly-sensitive.
Of course he is - he can't be bothered with spelling and punctuation.

 
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I will be super bummed out if I find out that existence carries on for eternity. Actual life is too long as it is. An afterlife is like a sequel to an okay movie. There's just no point.

 
GordonGekko said:
wheres the upside?
One consideration I have is that, in any religion, if you are praying and submitting to a "higher power", you are, in effect, forming a relationship with said higher power.

And relationships only truly work if there is respect, but also that the individual in place understands how to love and value themselves. Submitting to a "higher power" will become dysfunctional if the methodology operates as a proxy to learning to be ok with oneself and one's place in the world.

One of the things I've heard and always found to be true is that one of the most difficult things to do is to be in isolation when you really don't like yourself as a person. Left to your own thoughts and devices, if you don't like yourself, if you are crippled by your issues or fears, then it's like being in prison.

I believe religion "works" for folks who have found peace within themselves first, then choose said higher power into their lives, I don't think it works very well for those who use said higher power to find that peace to start.

Best chance you have in any relationship is to love and value yourself, to respect yourself and accept who you are and be clear on what you value and where your boundaries lie. Most people don't have that, and when they seek God of any kind, it taints that chance for whatever redemption they are looking for.

If there is a God ( and I don't believe in him, but to each their own), the fear shouldn't be of facing hell in an afterlife. It should be facing hell in this life. Because if you aren't right with you, that's what life becomes, a series of motions going through blood and grind and suffering.

You don't need a lottery ticket to bet on yourself. Encourage people and give them the tools to be excellent in all things and the rest will take care of itself.
how do you know?

 

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