Auction Rules Help? (1 Viewer)

[gcoast3]

Hello to All,

Our league is in its' 10th Year and we are changing to an Auction Draft. Any suggestions? Any Do's and Do Not's?

We have a 12-Team league

4 pts pass td (6 pts for others)

1 pt for every 10 yds rec/rush

1 pt for every 20 yds pass

fg's 3/4/5

bonus pts for others

Thanks for your suggestions in advance!

Rob

 

[bentley]

Keeper? Dynasty? Redraft?

 

[gcoast3]

It is not a Keeper League, we redraft every year. Thanks

 

[bentley]

There shouldn't be much to it then. Just hold an auction. If your commissioner is somebody everyone trusts, he can be the auctioneer. If not, you might consider using a third party.

 

[TommyGilmore]

What's the best way to handle the bidding? Should we do it like poker (i.e., increasing the bid as it goes around in a circle), or should we do it like a regular auction (where it's a free-for-all)?

 

[bentley]

What's the best way to handle the bidding? Should we do it like poker (i.e., increasing the bid as it goes around in a circle), or should we do it like a regular auction (where it's a free-for-all)?

I'd highly recommend a regular auction. It's a lot more fun. Of course, that gets back to trusting the auctioneer.

 

[u999spf]

Do it like a free-for-all, it's much quicker. If you are all in the same room, it should be easy to do. I have run 3 or 4 of these so far and within 10 seconds the bidding drops down to 2 or 3 people. You will see how the bidding slows pretty quickly.

The Nominations should go in some sort of predetermined order (Select a number, clockwise around the table, etc.)

An auction draft will normally take about the same as a snake draft if conducted in this manner, it may even take less time. There shoudl be some type of nomination time limit (30 or 60 seconds) so it doesn't slow things down.

You should also have more than one person keeping track of the bids for each team to make sure people are not going over the limit. You can use the draft dominator to track this, but if you make a mistake, it helps if someone else is also tracking the amounts.

 

[u999spf]

As far as the free-for-all, you may have one or 2 tools that have not bid at all on a player and you think the bidding is just about done so you call out going once, going twice....and then he jumps in just as you say sold.

I normally let the bidding continue the first or 2nd time this happens but you have to warn them not to do that anymore or the bid will not be accepted. These guys know if they are going to bid on a guy so there is no need to wait until the last possible half second to chime in. It's not an ebay auction for christ sakes!

 

[u999spf]

If you are looking for strategies, there are a few sites and other threads regarding that on here.

Do you load up on studs? Wait for bargains? When to nomiate someone, etc. Do a search on auction and you should find some of those threads that will be helpful.

Basically, the big name players are going to be nominated early on anyway. The first 2 or 3 may actually be a bargain, as people are a little gun shy right out of the gate, you may be able to "steal" a stud for small discount. It will still be alot of money, but may not be the highest at that position once the auction is over.

The last player in a specific tier will more than likely go for the most money, because the other team that are still looking for someone don't want to get shut out of that tier.

Let's sat you already have your starting QB or #1RB, when it's your turn to make a nomination, nominate the highest ranked player left at that position (someone you wouldnt be able to afford anyway) to flush out money from other owners.

 

[bentley]

Do it like a free-for-all, it's much quicker. If you are all in the same room, it should be easy to do. I have run 3 or 4 of these so far and within 10 seconds the bidding drops down to 2 or 3 people. You will see how the bidding slows pretty quickly.The Nominations should go in some sort of predetermined order (Select a number, clockwise around the table, etc.)An auction draft will normally take about the same as a snake draft if conducted in this manner, it may even take less time. There shoudl be some type of nomination time limit (30 or 60 seconds) so it doesn't slow things down.You should also have more than one person keeping track of the bids for each team to make sure people are not going over the limit. You can use the draft dominator to track this, but if you make a mistake, it helps if someone else is also tracking the amounts.

Good point on the nominations. We have the guy with the worst record from the year before throw out the first nomination and then go clockwise around the room after that. I've got an Excel spreadsheet that I use to track the auction. It calculates what everyone's max bid remaining is.

 

[roadkill1292]

Do it like a free-for-all, it's much quicker. If you are all in the same room, it should be easy to do. I have run 3 or 4 of these so far and within 10 seconds the bidding drops down to 2 or 3 people. You will see how the bidding slows pretty quickly.The Nominations should go in some sort of predetermined order (Select a number, clockwise around the table, etc.)An auction draft will normally take about the same as a snake draft if conducted in this manner, it may even take less time. There shoudl be some type of nomination time limit (30 or 60 seconds) so it doesn't slow things down.You should also have more than one person keeping track of the bids for each team to make sure people are not going over the limit. You can use the draft dominator to track this, but if you make a mistake, it helps if someone else is also tracking the amounts.

Good point on the nominations. We have the guy with the worst record from the year before throw out the first nomination and then go clockwise around the room after that. I've got an Excel spreadsheet that I use to track the auction. It calculates what everyone's max bid remaining is.

I know I've said it before but your league is so much like mine it's scary. About the only thing we do differently is that we chug along with a poker-style auction instead of open bidding. Believe it or not, it works pretty well, especially since I've tweaked my Excel program to track the bidding progress and blank out owners who have passed or who are out of money.

 

[hawaiiankrush]

Going into 4th year with auction draft...it's the best. Some recommendations either already made or new ones:

1. last place team from prior year nominates first and continue in that kind of order.

2. free-for-all bidding, 3rd party auctioneer if possible. if not, commish or someone everyone can trust. auctioneer will say, going once, twice, and sold to_____ for $______.

3. we have 2 sites since we are not located all in the same area. we use a phone hookup. if everyone can be together, that's the ideal.

4. keep track using a spreadhsheet or preferably, the draft dominator.

5. expect that in the first year, a lot of people who have not done an auction will be feeling their way around especially in trying to figure how much to bid without exhausting their dollars. very interesting. a lot of overbidding and underbidding can be expected the 1st time around.

6. it's a lot of fun

 

[bentley]

Do it like a free-for-all, it's much quicker. If you are all in the same room, it should be easy to do. I have run 3 or 4 of these so far and within 10 seconds the bidding drops down to 2 or 3 people. You will see how the bidding slows pretty quickly.The Nominations should go in some sort of predetermined order (Select a number, clockwise around the table, etc.)An auction draft will normally take about the same as a snake draft if conducted in this manner, it may even take less time. There shoudl be some type of nomination time limit (30 or 60 seconds) so it doesn't slow things down.You should also have more than one person keeping track of the bids for each team to make sure people are not going over the limit. You can use the draft dominator to track this, but if you make a mistake, it helps if someone else is also tracking the amounts.

Good point on the nominations. We have the guy with the worst record from the year before throw out the first nomination and then go clockwise around the room after that. I've got an Excel spreadsheet that I use to track the auction. It calculates what everyone's max bid remaining is.

I know I've said it before but your league is so much like mine it's scary. About the only thing we do differently is that we chug along with a poker-style auction instead of open bidding. Believe it or not, it works pretty well, especially since I've tweaked my Excel program to track the bidding progress and blank out owners who have passed or who are out of money.

As they say, great minds think alike.As a commissioner, I'm betting that the poker style auction is a little easier on you. Honestly, I spend so much time running the auction that I have a lot less time to concentrate on my own strategy. I've learned to be more prepared, but I think my team probably has still suffered as a result.

 

[gcoast3]

Thanks for the great tips.

 

[roadkill1292]

Do it like a free-for-all, it's much quicker. If you are all in the same room, it should be easy to do. I have run 3 or 4 of these so far and within 10 seconds the bidding drops down to 2 or 3 people. You will see how the bidding slows pretty quickly.The Nominations should go in some sort of predetermined order (Select a number, clockwise around the table, etc.)An auction draft will normally take about the same as a snake draft if conducted in this manner, it may even take less time. There shoudl be some type of nomination time limit (30 or 60 seconds) so it doesn't slow things down.You should also have more than one person keeping track of the bids for each team to make sure people are not going over the limit. You can use the draft dominator to track this, but if you make a mistake, it helps if someone else is also tracking the amounts.

Good point on the nominations. We have the guy with the worst record from the year before throw out the first nomination and then go clockwise around the room after that. I've got an Excel spreadsheet that I use to track the auction. It calculates what everyone's max bid remaining is.

I know I've said it before but your league is so much like mine it's scary. About the only thing we do differently is that we chug along with a poker-style auction instead of open bidding. Believe it or not, it works pretty well, especially since I've tweaked my Excel program to track the bidding progress and blank out owners who have passed or who are out of money.

As they say, great minds think alike.As a commissioner, I'm betting that the poker style auction is a little easier on you. Honestly, I spend so much time running the auction that I have a lot less time to concentrate on my own strategy. I've learned to be more prepared, but I think my team probably has still suffered as a result.

Yeah, I've learned to develop a budget and stick to it to help keep myself together and the guys cut me a little slack knowing I'm handling a bigger load. The more you can get Excel to do for you, the better. My program has shortcuts galore and I can probably post a purchased player faster than someone can write him in on their own sheets.On the subject of poker style auctions, they're pretty cool in their own way. Each player bought is its own process, with the bid building and owners dropping out one by one, right up there on the screen for all to see. It may cut down on the psychological aspects that many seem to like, but there's still plenty of gamesmanship going on. It's like, well, poker.

 

[RSG]

Definitely have a budget set up beforehand. Look for bargains from the first couple of players. Don't worry if you spend too much early. As long as you get value, you'll be fine in the long run. Your buddies will be scrambling when there are only a few good rbs left and they will overpay. You'll also get good bargains near the end.

Don't get caught up in crazy bidding wars you think are overpaying players. It'll kill your budget plan.

 

[bentley]

Definitely have a budget set up beforehand. Look for bargains from the first couple of players. Don't worry if you spend too much early. As long as you get value, you'll be fine in the long run. Your buddies will be scrambling when there are only a few good rbs left and they will overpay. You'll also get good bargains near the end.Don't get caught up in crazy bidding wars you think are overpaying players. It'll kill your budget plan.

I think that this thread is technically about rules and not strategy. But it really doesn't matter.