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I know many of you are familiar with his work, but here's some info for those who don't know the guy.

 
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Tom Servo said:
He has talent as an artist; why does he feel the need to tag the walls of people's buildings?
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The best thing about him is that he's been at it for like 15 yrs & we're still not sure who he is. Anyone who could be a squillionaire (others have actually auctioned sides of buildings he's tagged, letting the buyer worry about how to make the work his own) capitalizing on his notoriety and chooses to remain a guerilla artist has more of my respect than just about any artist working today.
 
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Dr. Awesome said:
Tom Servo said:
He has talent as an artist; why does he feel the need to tag the walls of people's buildings?
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It's a part of what makes it his art. :rolleyes:
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I can understand that. However, what if I don't want my building used as his canvas? If it is, is someone going to throw a fit if I paint over it?
wikkidpissah said:
Tom Servo said:
He has talent as an artist; why does he feel the need to tag the walls of people's buildings?
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The best thing about him is that he's been at it for like 15 yrs & we're still not sure who he is. Anyone who could be a squillionaire (others have actually auctioned sides of buildings he's tagged, letting the buyer worry about how to make the work his own) capitalizing on his notoriety and chooses to remain a guerilla artist has more of my respect than just about any artist working today.
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I'm not hating on the guy; my point is that if someone is that talented (which he is), I'd like something on canvas that I could hang up on my wall. If I don't know who he is, I can't commission him for a personalized work or go see his talent in a museum.
 
Most of his works get painted over and don't last long. I understand your point but most people don't get distraught when his works vanish. Which is part of the reason why some of his stuff sells for a lot of money.

Read his wikipedia (in the op) if you're curious for more.

 
Tom Servo said:
Dr. Awesome said:
Tom Servo said:
He has talent as an artist; why does he feel the need to tag the walls of people's buildings?
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It's a part of what makes it his art. :shrug:
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I can understand that. However, what if I don't want my building used as his canvas? If it is, is someone going to throw a fit if I paint over it?
wikkidpissah said:
Tom Servo said:
He has talent as an artist; why does he feel the need to tag the walls of people's buildings?
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The best thing about him is that he's been at it for like 15 yrs & we're still not sure who he is. Anyone who could be a squillionaire (others have actually auctioned sides of buildings he's tagged, letting the buyer worry about how to make the work his own) capitalizing on his notoriety and chooses to remain a guerilla artist has more of my respect than just about any artist working today.
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I'm not hating on the guy; my point is that if someone is that talented (which he is), I'd like something on canvas that I could hang up on my wall. If I don't know who he is, I can't commission him for a personalized work or go see his talent in a museum.
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Exactly. He doesn't do his art for money, fame, respect, or museum showings. He does it for political discourse. To make a comment and spark conversation on the state of the world. He's an artist in the purest sense, one that refuses to sell out when he could be making millions. I love it when when he sneaks his own art into a museum and hangs it in a frame over another work, then sneaks away. FYI- He was named to Time's "100 Most Influential People" list this year and we still don't know who he is. :blackdot:

 
Tom Servo said:
I'm not hating on the guy; my point is that if someone is that talented (which he is), I'd like something on canvas that I could hang up on my wall. If I don't know who he is, I can't commission him for a personalized work or go see his talent in a museum.
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Well, it would probably cost as much to commission a Banksy as a Geary building, so you do what you would with Bilbao or the Getty - visit the site or buy one of the many pictures there are of his work. Since the scene of the crime is as integrated to Banksy art as the Acropolis is to the Parthenon, that's prolly the best way for a citizen to appreciate him anyways.
 
That exhibit was some cool stuff. :bag:

When you put it in terms of being a real artist and not selling out, I get that and can appreciate it. He's definitely talented.

 
Tom Servo said:
I'm not hating on the guy; my point is that if someone is that talented (which he is), I'd like something on canvas that I could hang up on my wall. If I don't know who he is, I can't commission him for a personalized work or go see his talent in a museum.
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Part of what sets Banksy apart is that his work is for the public. It isn't locked away in a private collection or hidden in a museum. He uses the public space to present his ideas to everyone. Yes, it is vandalism and I can see the concern about defacing other people's property. I guess what makes him different is that he doesn't just "tag" buildings with his handle like most common graffiti "artists" that are concerned with only promoting themselves. His work presents ideas about our society that concern us all, and he uses society as his canvas.
 
Dr. Awesome said:
wikkidpissah said:
Anyone see his movie - Exit Through the Gift Shop - that came out last wk? the new siskel & ebert raved about it.
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I'm going to see it with a friend next week...the main reason I fired up this thread.
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I just finished watching it thought it was pure genius and amazingly well done. Probably the 2nd best movie of the year IMO. I really don't want to say anything about it other than watch it without knowing anything about it. I can't recommend it enough.
 
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goonsquad said:
Tom Servo said:
I'm not hating on the guy; my point is that if someone is that talented (which he is), I'd like something on canvas that I could hang up on my wall. If I don't know who he is, I can't commission him for a personalized work or go see his talent in a museum.
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Part of what sets Banksy apart is that his work is for the public. It isn't locked away in a private collection or hidden in a museum. He uses the public space to present his ideas to everyone. Yes, it is vandalism and I can see the concern about defacing other people's property. I guess what makes him different is that he doesn't just "tag" buildings with his handle like most common graffiti "artists" that are concerned with only promoting themselves. His work presents ideas about our society that concern us all, and he uses society as his canvas.
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It's almost like performance art given it's you-had-to-be-there temporary nature. BTW, this is awesome too.

 
I wonder how many people will get that it's a satire mocking them rather than Fox?

 
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Just watched Exit Through Gift Shop, best movie I have seen all year.

There should be a thread on that film. It was the only movie i have seen in ages where i was so upset it ended, i wanted to see more of MBW

WTF does the Title mean anyways and was there even press of the Disneyland stunt? if the Mickey Mouse team finds Banksy today could they charge him with crimes?

 
biggamer3 said:
Just watched Exit Through Gift Shop, best movie I have seen all year. There should be a thread on that film. It was the only movie i have seen in ages where i was so upset it ended, i wanted to see more of MBW WTF does the Title mean anyways and was there even press of the Disneyland stunt? if the Mickey Mouse team finds Banksy today could they charge him with crimes?
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finally saw this movie last night and really enjoyed it. i have been hunting around the internet today, trying to get some of my questions answered. if i knew how to put in a spoiler box, i'd ask right here. but then again, if you have seen the movie, you probably know what questions i have.anyway, i figured the title has to do with the commercialization of art and the way consumers are directed to know what to like/buy. it is all about hype and branding. i see this more in music (Ya! Justin Beiber!) but it is also prevalent with art.
 
biggamer3 said:
Just watched Exit Through Gift Shop, best movie I have seen all year. There should be a thread on that film. It was the only movie i have seen in ages where i was so upset it ended, i wanted to see more of MBW WTF does the Title mean anyways and was there even press of the Disneyland stunt? if the Mickey Mouse team finds Banksy today could they charge him with crimes?
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The Title means, Mr. BW created a "theme art" instead of theme park, wherein you will typically exit those places through a giftshop. And in essence, the whole exhibit he created was like many modern museums, wherein you also exit through the gift shop. But the gift shop in this case was the show, where he sold the million bucks worth of art. And given Banksy stances on things, I would take it as he really rejects and resents the notion of putting a gift shop as a coda on an experience
 
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cstu said:
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Not at all. I think he openly despises them.I agree that he openly despises them but nobody is twisting his arm to sell his work for $500,000. He's figured out how to have it both ways. He hides his identity to create mystery and retain an aura of purity. He ridicules and mocks the art world and yet is complicit in it.Fairey overtly sold out IMO. The Obey concept is basic branding and advertising, only he did guerrilla marketing of his brand and used the free advertising to hawk his products. The concept behind his work is as much Madison Ave. as SOHO. There's nothing wrong with that, but I kind of get tired of talented artists like this who act like success wasn't a part of their plan. There are plenty of talented artists nobody ever hears about. Plenty of artists who have no marketing savvy at all and just toil away in anonymity and never make a dime. Very few have the combination of talent, ambition and drive like artists like Fairey and Banksy do.

Banksy clearly has ambitions beyond tagging buildings and public art, and is driven like most great artists to get his work out there to compete in the marketplace. Maybe his intentions are to put the spotlight on the ridiculousness of that marketplace, but he's figured out a way to make tall cash from it. He has dealers and reps, and why not, the dude is immensely talented and should make a living at it, but I find it disingenuous for him to sell his stuff for a half a mil and then trash the buyers. That is all part of his marketing plan, his big idea. It's genius really. He's taking it further than Warhol did. I'm also in the camp that thinks his movie is a prank or at best a half truth. It fits his MO too perfectly. Why would either Fairey or Banksy make a straight movie? Their work exists to #### with people. I don't see any reason for them to do any form of art that didn't. Exit Through the Gift Shop is the best movie of the year. The guy is a monster talent with a brilliant mind and has really figured it out.

 
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Great documentary. Netflix on-demand.

Banksy's stuff was head and shoulders better than the other street artists shown. Guetta's stuff was mostly awful and exemplifies why people say "my kid could do that."

I didn't begrudge his success as Banksy does, but the work is truly ####.

 
Banksy sells original art for $60 in Central Park

Banksy, the elusive British street artist, pulled off another fantastic stunt over the weekend, selling pieces of his spray artwork — which typically fetch tens of thousands of dollars at auction — from a Central Park vendor stall for $60 apiece.

“Yesterday I set up a stall in the park selling 100% authentic original signed Banksy canvases," the artist wrote on his website Sunday. "For $60 each."

Just three people took advantage of the one-day sale, with passersby assuming the works were knockoffs.

In a video documenting the pop-up shop, the first buyer, a woman, successfully haggles with the vendor — an old man apparently hired by Banksy — who sells her two canvases for half-price.

Another buyer, a man from Chicago, explained, "I just need something for the walls." He bought four paintings for $240.

Total sales for the day: $420. (The Sydney Morning Herald estimated the artwork was worth 233,200 to 339,200 Australian dollars ($221,000 to $322,000.)

"Please note: This was a one off," Banksy added. "That stall will not be there again today."

Banksy has been causing quite a stir in New York during his monthlong residency, with his spray artwork and installations popping up throughout the city unannounced.

One — a slaughterhouse delivery truck dubbed "The Sirens of the Lambs" — was seen driving through the Meatpacking District carrying stuffed animals.

Last week, several news outlets, including the Daily News, reported that Banksy may have been inadvertently photographed near one of his installations: a mobile waterfall constructed in the the back of a different truck.

:thumbup:

 
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No one assumed they were knockoffs because no one noticed the stand. I'm not much of an art snob, but I'm enough of one that I would have cleared the stand out had I been there.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Sam yeates original for $300 a decade ago before he started getting features in the Thomas Kincaid galleries.

 
Abraham said:
No one assumed they were knockoffs because no one noticed the stand. I'm not much of an art snob, but I'm enough of one that I would have cleared the stand out had I been there.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Sam yeates original for $300 a decade ago before he started getting features in the Thomas Kincaid galleries.
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Why would you have thought they were originals as opposed to knock-offs?

 
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Das Boot said:
Abraham said:
No one assumed they were knockoffs because no one noticed the stand. I'm not much of an art snob, but I'm enough of one that I would have cleared the stand out had I been there.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Sam yeates original for $300 a decade ago before he started getting features in the Thomas Kincaid galleries.
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Why would you have thought they were originals as opposed to knock-offs?
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I don't care what they were, they look cool and for $60 are really affordable art. If I saw them, I would have at least paused. Of course the piece that I probably liked the best was the $60 sign or the keep it real monkey

 
Guster said:
Das Boot said:
Abraham said:
No one assumed they were knockoffs because no one noticed the stand. I'm not much of an art snob, but I'm enough of one that I would have cleared the stand out had I been there.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Sam yeates original for $300 a decade ago before he started getting features in the Thomas Kincaid galleries.
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Why would you have thought they were originals as opposed to knock-offs?
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I don't care what they were, they look cool and for $60 are really affordable art. If I saw them, I would have at least paused. Of course the piece that I probably liked the best was the $60 sign or the keep it real monkey
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Or the one saying "this is not a photo op"

 
Abraham said:
Guster said:
Das Boot said:
Abraham said:
No one assumed they were knockoffs because no one noticed the stand. I'm not much of an art snob, but I'm enough of one that I would have cleared the stand out had I been there.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Sam yeates original for $300 a decade ago before he started getting features in the Thomas Kincaid galleries.
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Why would you have thought they were originals as opposed to knock-offs?
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I don't care what they were, they look cool and for $60 are really affordable art. If I saw them, I would have at least paused. Of course the piece that I probably liked the best was the $60 sign or the keep it real monkey
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Or the one saying "this is not a photo op"
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I like that one, but wouldn't make as much sense on my walls :shrug:

 
I don't know if I would have known they were real. Probably not. But I would have thought "someone is ripping off a famous artist by copying him and Having this old guy sell it." I probably would have asked - "are these originals?" Considering there were no two alike in the booth i would have stood there for a while contemplating it.

I'm not an art snob that I know of but there are a few modern artists (like banksy) that I would recognize I think.

 
Guster said:
Abraham said:
Guster said:
Das Boot said:
Abraham said:
No one assumed they were knockoffs because no one noticed the stand. I'm not much of an art snob, but I'm enough of one that I would have cleared the stand out had I been there.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying a Sam yeates original for $300 a decade ago before he started getting features in the Thomas Kincaid galleries.
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Why would you have thought they were originals as opposed to knock-offs?
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I don't care what they were, they look cool and for $60 are really affordable art. If I saw them, I would have at least paused. Of course the piece that I probably liked the best was the $60 sign or the keep it real monkey
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Or the one saying "this is not a photo op"
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I like that one, but wouldn't make as much sense on my walls :shrug:
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That's when it makes the most sense. :thumbup:

As a note, I wonder if the guy who bought four of them will ever figure it out.

 
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