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Battle of the 3rd round Rookie WR's (1 Viewer)

Feel free to state you case.

  • Johnnie Lee Higgins

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  • Jacoby Jones

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  • Mike Walker

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In most mocks/rankings/drafts I'm seeing these 3 interchanged.

All seem to have gamebreaker "potential" yet all have rather large question marks it seems.

Please state your case for your choice.

*Note -

Jason Hill normally goes in the Mid-Late 2nd

Paul Williams - Early - Mid 4th

James Jones - Mid- Late 4th

Chris Davis - Late 4th Early 5th

My take thus far -

Johnnie Lee Higgins - My personal pick of the 3 but only after I came to terms with game speed vs his combine stats. I like the gene pool too being Quentin Jammers cousin :confused: . His film showed the looks of a guy who can take it to the house any catch and his body mold reminds me of Steve Smith / Santana Moss / Deion Branch.

Jacoby Jones - Seem like hes getting a slight bonus because of the Colston phenomenon which translates to hype for me. Kubiaks recently said Kevin Walters earned the number 2, I know we have a longways to go but most dynasty drafts are going on more now than later. Being gifted but extremely raw could mean alot of things. If my team is more than stable and I can afford the flyer, Jacoby seems the biggest boom potential of the 3.

Mike Walker - Could Brandon Marshalls recent success be fluffing Mike a little too much? The little highlights I did see he came off as good but not great at one thing. The recent knee swelling reports... Is that a normal part of rehab? The turn on for me was Jacksonvilles stable of possession receivers, even if its deep speed Mike has, Jacksonville just needs some speed.

 
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They went in this order in my Dynasty League

Jones

Higgins

Walker

But they are all crapshoots right now. A lot will be detirmend in training camp.

 
I :hifive: Jones, he's a sick talent and has the highest upside of the group, but for now it's Walker. Jacksonville is having the kind of reaction to him that can mark the start of a good career, he was the talk of the minicamp, and they desperately need a WR to step up. I also love Higgins upside - his natural speed and quicks + a relentless work ethic bodes well. Really I would be angling to land all of three of these guys, and Jason Hill, and Laurent Robinson (and maybe even Paul Williams and James Jones) - that WR run in the 3rd is going to yield some good players.

 
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I have to admit I know the least about Jacoby other than opinions and stats.

Anyone have his all elusive HL film ?

 
I have to admit I know the least about Jacoby other than opinions and stats.

Anyone have his all elusive HL film ?
No film, but here's An Interview we did with him back in April. Cecil and I scouted him at the Shrine Game for 3 days, and we were plenty impressed. He's a track stud who went to D2 Lane College because he was tiny coming out of high school, but he had a growth spurt in college, and now he's a 6'3" 210ish guy who plays like a jitterbug. He's got a great work ethic and attitude and we believe in him. If you listen to the interview, Jacoby tells us about a player a year behind him at Lane that he thinks could be better than him.

 
I :wub: Jones, he's a sick talent and has the highest upside of the group, but for now it's Walker.
I voted for Walker based on how very little I know about Jacoby. Given that I hate ranking a player I have barely seen play, this is how I see the 3rd rounders (in this flawed poll). 1. Jason Hill -- How is he not in the poll. Things are opening up very nicely for him in SF and I think he has the most talent of these 3rd rounders anyway.

2. James Jones -- Another atop my rankings who doesn't even make the poll. Like Bloom watched Jacoby and love what he saw, I saw plenty of this kid and he is just a man among boys. WRs need that to transfer, imo, and this kid is being overlooked too much. Not sure what the soon to be post Favre era will bring though.

3. Mike Walker -- In talent alone, I like him almost as much as James Jones, but I can't get excited about the crowded situation and offense in Jax. I really like Mike Walker. Sleeper, when both Marshall and Walker were both healthy at UCF I saw them play a couple times and Walker was the #1 WR.

The above three showed me enough to make me confident drafting any of them. I think they should all have nice futures. I really like these three WRs, and consider them better than Rd 3 talent in an unusually deep class of WRs. Jones is the biggest mystery to most, but the Sterling Sharpe comparison given by Gruden really hit home with what I thought I saw three times last year. Studly dude.

Then I cannot personally separate

Jacoby Jones, Johnny Lee Higgins, Laurent Robinson, and Paul Williams. I think Williams is the sneakiest pick up of the batch. There isn't much in front of him, he has a fantastic physical package, and I could see his pure speed and playmaking ability lift him up the depth chart quickly. Granted I have no real feel for Robinson and Jacoby as players. Higgins can separate deep and Jamarcus can throw it anywhere Johnny can run. It's an interesting combination for dynasty consideration.

Mostly, I believe no one can be positive of much regarding these 3rd rounders, so go for the value. Who is falling too far? He's your man. I think that makes Williams and James Jones very worthwhile risks.

 
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If you listen to the interview, Jacoby tells us about a player a year behind him at Lane that he thinks could be better than him.
I heard that, and I read a transcript of another interview, and I watched his live interview at the Shriner... and he gives me the impression that he's a solid young man... not cocky enough to be an NFL WR, and a little over his head. Come on, another Lane WR might be better. That deserves serious vetting from several angles. I am very impressed with the jaw dropping acceleration but he's such a pup and making such an exaggerated leap to the next level. I wish him the best, but he's going to early for my taste.
 
The above three showed me enough to make me confident drafting any of them. I think they should all have nice futures. I really like these three WRs, and consider them better than Rd 3 talent in an unusually deep class of WRs.
Here here.Guys with the profile of the members of that monumental WR run in 3rd usually go higher, but there were already so many great WRs in this class that there just wasnt room for them in the first 2 rounds. My theory is that every team had a favorite in that fat 3rd tier of WRs, and once one went, the panic was on to get your guy before he went off the board. It can't be a random occurrence that 7 WRs went in 8 picks (ok 6 if you dont count Figurs)

Code:
9  73 Houston									 Jones, Jacoby WR 6-3 210 Lane 10 74 Baltimore (from Buffalo through Detroit)	Figurs, Yamon WR 5-11 174 Kansas State 11 75 Atlanta									 Robinson, Laurent WR 6-1 193 Illinois State 12 76 San Francisco							   Hill, Jason WR 6-0 210 Washington State 13 77 Pittsburgh								  Spaeth, Matt TE 6-7 267 Minnesota 14 78 Green Bay								   Jones, James WR 6-1 207 San Jose State 15 79 Jacksonville								Walker, Mike WR 6-2 209 Central Florida	   17 80 Tennessee								   Williams, Paul WR 6-1 209 Fresno State
 
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I :banned: Jones, he's a sick talent and has the highest upside of the group, but for now it's Walker.
I voted for Walker based on how very little I know about Jacoby. Given that I hate ranking a player I have barely seen play, this is how I see the 3rd rounders (in this flawed poll). 1. Jason Hill -- How is he not in the poll. Things are opening up very nicely for him in SF and I think he has the most talent of these 3rd rounders anyway.

2. James Jones -- Another atop my rankings who doesn't even make the poll. Like Bloom watched Jacoby and love what he saw, I saw plenty of this kid and he is just a man among boys. WRs need that to transfer, imo, and this kid is being overlooked too much. Not sure what the soon to be post Favre era will bring though.

3. Mike Walker -- In talent alone, I like him almost as much as James Jones, but I can't get excited about the crowded situation and offense in Jax. I really like Mike Walker. Sleeper, when both Marshall and Walker were both healthy at UCF I saw them play a couple times and Walker was the #1 WR.

The above three showed me enough to make me confident drafting any of them. I think they should all have nice futures. I really like these three WRs, and consider them better than Rd 3 talent in an unusually deep class of WRs. Jones is the biggest mystery to most, but the Sterling Sharpe comparison given by Gruden really hit home with what I thought I saw three times last year. Studly dude.

Then I cannot personally separate

Jacoby Jones, Johnny Lee Higgins, Laurent Robinson, and Paul Williams. I think Williams is the sneakiest pick up of the batch. There isn't much in front of him, he has a fantastic physical package, and I could see his pure speed and playmaking ability lift him up the depth chart quickly. Granted I have no real feel for Robinson and Jacoby as players. Higgins can separate deep and Jamarcus can throw it anywhere Johnny can run. It's an interesting combination for dynasty consideration.

Mostly, I believe no one can be positive of much regarding these 3rd rounders, so go for the value. Who is falling too far? He's your man. I think that makes Williams and James Jones very worthwhile risks.
I have Hill on avg going in the late 2nd :wall: and have him higher than all these 3. I like James Jones alot too but he seems available in the 4th (maybe not after this post) and was a sweet sleeper, strong build.

These 3 seemed to be the consensus WR going in the 3rd in random orders.

 
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Guys with the profile of the members of that monumental WR run in 3rd usually go higher, but there were already so many great WRs in this class that there just wasnt room for them in the first 2 rounds. My theory is that every team had a favorite in that fat 3rd tier of WRs, and once one went, the panic was on to get your guy before he went off the board. It can't be a random occurrence that 7 WRs went in 8 picks (ok 6 if you dont count Figurs)

Code:
9  73 Houston									 Jones, Jacoby WR 6-3 210 Lane 10 74 Baltimore (from Buffalo through Detroit)	Figurs, Yamon WR 5-11 174 Kansas State 11 75 Atlanta									 Robinson, Laurent WR 6-1 193 Illinois State 12 76 San Francisco							   Hill, Jason WR 6-0 210 Washington State 13 77 Pittsburgh								  Spaeth, Matt TE 6-7 267 Minnesota 14 78 Green Bay								   Jones, James WR 6-1 207 San Jose State 15 79 Jacksonville								Walker, Mike WR 6-2 209 Central Florida	   17 80 Tennessee								   Williams, Paul WR 6-1 209 Fresno State
Thanks for posting the list.Figurs is probably a PR/KR more than a WR, with Clayton, Mason and Williams, I doubt he sees the field much as a WR. Paul Williams is my choice out of this group, but I don't mind the risk associated with his off the field issues. I think he'll get his mind right and has top notch potential and opportunity. But, this poll left him off, so I'm going with Walker because of his hands and good reviews thus far.
 
For an immediate impact, I like Chris Davis in Tennessee. He should be returning kicks from week 1 and will likely get a long look at the slot.

 
As I said before draft....these are the guys I am watching out for:

D Clowny

Y Figurs

J Hill

C Johnson

M Mason

M Walker

P Williams

These guys are the 7 biggest gamebreakers of the rookies...

 
I :wub: Jones, he's a sick talent and has the highest upside of the group, but for now it's Walker.
I voted for Walker based on how very little I know about Jacoby. Given that I hate ranking a player I have barely seen play, this is how I see the 3rd rounders (in this flawed poll). 1. Jason Hill -- How is he not in the poll. Things are opening up very nicely for him in SF and I think he has the most talent of these 3rd rounders anyway.

2. James Jones -- Another atop my rankings who doesn't even make the poll. Like Bloom watched Jacoby and love what he saw, I saw plenty of this kid and he is just a man among boys. WRs need that to transfer, imo, and this kid is being overlooked too much. Not sure what the soon to be post Favre era will bring though.

3. Mike Walker -- In talent alone, I like him almost as much as James Jones, but I can't get excited about the crowded situation and offense in Jax. I really like Mike Walker. Sleeper, when both Marshall and Walker were both healthy at UCF I saw them play a couple times and Walker was the #1 WR.

The above three showed me enough to make me confident drafting any of them. I think they should all have nice futures. I really like these three WRs, and consider them better than Rd 3 talent in an unusually deep class of WRs. Jones is the biggest mystery to most, but the Sterling Sharpe comparison given by Gruden really hit home with what I thought I saw three times last year. Studly dude.

Then I cannot personally separate

Jacoby Jones, Johnny Lee Higgins, Laurent Robinson, and Paul Williams. I think Williams is the sneakiest pick up of the batch. There isn't much in front of him, he has a fantastic physical package, and I could see his pure speed and playmaking ability lift him up the depth chart quickly. Granted I have no real feel for Robinson and Jacoby as players. Higgins can separate deep and Jamarcus can throw it anywhere Johnny can run. It's an interesting combination for dynasty consideration.

Mostly, I believe no one can be positive of much regarding these 3rd rounders, so go for the value. Who is falling too far? He's your man. I think that makes Williams and James Jones very worthwhile risks.
i was very happy to nab James Jones at 6.12 in a 16 team rook draft(with very good owners too)
 

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