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Kitrick Taylor

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The Patriots were winning last night 27-3 with 6:32 to play. The game was essentially over, as Palko and KC had proven over and over, they just weren't going to score even one TD in this game. The Patriots opted to bring out their first string offense and run plays from the spread. Nothing new to see here, this is the way the Patriots operate. However, on 2nd down, they call a WR screen to Welker. Pro Bowl LT Matt Light gets his leg rolled up on, and is hurt on the play. He ends up leaving the stadium in a walking boot. The next play, Brady passes again to Welker. Tamba Hali gets a good shot on Brady just after the pass leaves his hand.

In 2007, the Patriots did this all the time. They'd run up the score on everyone.

What's different now you may ask? This isn't 2007 anymore, and the Patriots aren't going to have a perfect season. Nor are they going to get the title "best offense ever". Tom Brady is 34 years old. His recovery time from each game can't be the same as it was four years ago. The human body just doesn't work that way. Belichek's decision led directly to his LT getting hurt, and put an extra unnecessary hit on his QB. I understand that point difference is somewhere among the tiebreakers for playoff spots. However, the remote possibility that comes into play can't possibly offset the loss of a LT for even one week.

Obviously, Belichek is regarded as the game's finest coach. I really think this one could come back to bite him however.

 
I was thinking about the same thing although mine was a selfish reason. I would of lost my game if Gronkowski would of score again but I do agree the Pats do this but your Packers have done the same thing. They have been up 4 or 5 TD's & Rodgers is still out there from the shotgun flinging passes as well.. I also like how Welker got a screen pass late in the game to keep his streak alive.

 
I bet if Belichick were to open up and actually be honest for 2 minutes, he'd probably tell you that the highlight of that game was the "garbage time" opportunity he gave to Vereen with the starters. He used that time to basically discover a RB and give a seldom used but highly touted draft pick a huge dose of confidence going down the stretch. If an opposing team wants to quit while Belichick continues to develop players in real game scenarios that's not his problem.

 
The Patriots were winning last night 27-3 with 6:32 to play. The game was essentially over, as Palko and KC had proven over and over, they just weren't going to score even one TD in this game. The Patriots opted to bring out their first string offense and run plays from the spread. Nothing new to see here, this is the way the Patriots operate. However, on 2nd down, they call a WR screen to Welker. Pro Bowl LT Matt Light gets his leg rolled up on, and is hurt on the play. He ends up leaving the stadium in a walking boot. The next play, Brady passes again to Welker. Tamba Hali gets a good shot on Brady just after the pass leaves his hand.

In 2007, the Patriots did this all the time. They'd run up the score on everyone.

What's different now you may ask? This isn't 2007 anymore, and the Patriots aren't going to have a perfect season. Nor are they going to get the title "best offense ever". Tom Brady is 34 years old. His recovery time from each game can't be the same as it was four years ago. The human body just doesn't work that way. Belichek's decision led directly to his LT getting hurt, and put an extra unnecessary hit on his QB. I understand that point difference is somewhere among the tiebreakers for playoff spots. However, the remote possibility that comes into play can't possibly offset the loss of a LT for even one week.



Obviously, Belichek is regarded as the game's finest coach. I really think this one could come back to bite him however.
Here's where you are wrong.

 
I bet if Belichick were to open up and actually be honest for 2 minutes, he'd probably tell you that the highlight of that game was the "garbage time" opportunity he gave to Vereen with the starters. He used that time to basically discover a RB and give a seldom used but highly touted draft pick a huge dose of confidence going down the stretch. If an opposing team wants to quit while Belichick continues to develop players in real game scenarios that's not his problem.
This is a fantastic point. Real game blowout scenarios are a perfect time to test new things, that's exactly what BB did with Vereen last night, and I have zero problem with it.
 
Please change the title of this thread to "I hate the Pats, so let me drop a completely ridiculous and utterly stupid post to prove it"

tia

 
The Patriots were winning last night 27-3 with 6:32 to play. The game was essentially over, as Palko and KC had proven over and over, they just weren't going to score even one TD in this game. The Patriots opted to bring out their first string offense and run plays from the spread. Nothing new to see here, this is the way the Patriots operate. However, on 2nd down, they call a WR screen to Welker. Pro Bowl LT Matt Light gets his leg rolled up on, and is hurt on the play. He ends up leaving the stadium in a walking boot. The next play, Brady passes again to Welker. Tamba Hali gets a good shot on Brady just after the pass leaves his hand. In 2007, the Patriots did this all the time. They'd run up the score on everyone. What's different now you may ask? This isn't 2007 anymore, and the Patriots aren't going to have a perfect season. Nor are they going to get the title "best offense ever". Tom Brady is 34 years old. His recovery time from each game can't be the same as it was four years ago. The human body just doesn't work that way. Belichek's decision led directly to his LT getting hurt, and put an extra unnecessary hit on his QB. I understand that point difference is somewhere among the tiebreakers for playoff spots. However, the remote possibility that comes into play can't possibly offset the loss of a LT for even one week. Obviously, Belichek is regarded as the game's finest coach. I really think this one could come back to bite him however.
So when Green Bay runs up the score, it's all good? Wait, nice avatar. :rolleyes:
 
The Patriots were winning last night 27-3 with 6:32 to play. The game was essentially over, as Palko and KC had proven over and over, they just weren't going to score even one TD in this game. The Patriots opted to bring out their first string offense and run plays from the spread. Nothing new to see here, this is the way the Patriots operate. However, on 2nd down, they call a WR screen to Welker. Pro Bowl LT Matt Light gets his leg rolled up on, and is hurt on the play. He ends up leaving the stadium in a walking boot. The next play, Brady passes again to Welker. Tamba Hali gets a good shot on Brady just after the pass leaves his hand.

In 2007, the Patriots did this all the time. They'd run up the score on everyone.

What's different now you may ask? This isn't 2007 anymore, and the Patriots aren't going to have a perfect season. Nor are they going to get the title "best offense ever". Tom Brady is 34 years old. His recovery time from each game can't be the same as it was four years ago. The human body just doesn't work that way. Belichek's decision led directly to his LT getting hurt, and put an extra unnecessary hit on his QB. I understand that point difference is somewhere among the tiebreakers for playoff spots. However, the remote possibility that comes into play can't possibly offset the loss of a LT for even one week.



Obviously, Belichek is regarded as the game's finest coach. I really think this one could come back to bite him however.
Here's where you are wrong.
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Todd Haley was calling timeouts with 4 minutes left in the game. I don't blame Belichick for trying to score there.

 
Idk when people will just give up on this idea, that just because it makes sense to conserve players everyone should do it.

Its burned the Pats enough times, they know both sides of the issue. BB is gonna run it up every opportunity he gets, because why not.

 
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If Todd Haley and Scott Peoli didn't have an issue with it, then who should have an issue with it? Perhaps a random member of a fantasy football forum should?? I don't know...

 
Usually teams dont bench the Line when benching starters in a blowout.

If Brady/Welker doesnt get hurt no biggie.

 
Usually teams dont bench the Line when benching starters in a blowout. If Brady/Welker doesnt get hurt no biggie.
this is what the point of this thread should be...up by plenty against a pathetic offense who clearly have no chance of making it a game, yet brady welker and company are still in the game. moreover, the pats call a QB sneak on 3rd or 4th and 1. risking the health of the teams MVP. schaub, cassel and cutler not teach you a lesson bill? i don't wish ill will on any player, but admittedly, i would have loved for brady to have gotten a stinger or something to've made the hooded guy crap his sweatpants.
 
The Patriots were winning last night 27-3 with 6:32 to play. The game was essentially over, as Palko and KC had proven over and over, they just weren't going to score even one TD in this game. The Patriots opted to bring out their first string offense and run plays from the spread. Nothing new to see here, this is the way the Patriots operate. However, on 2nd down, they call a WR screen to Welker. Pro Bowl LT Matt Light gets his leg rolled up on, and is hurt on the play. He ends up leaving the stadium in a walking boot. The next play, Brady passes again to Welker. Tamba Hali gets a good shot on Brady just after the pass leaves his hand.

In 2007, the Patriots did this all the time. They'd run up the score on everyone.

What's different now you may ask? This isn't 2007 anymore, and the Patriots aren't going to have a perfect season. Nor are they going to get the title "best offense ever". Tom Brady is 34 years old. His recovery time from each game can't be the same as it was four years ago. The human body just doesn't work that way. Belichek's decision led directly to his LT getting hurt, and put an extra unnecessary hit on his QB. I understand that point difference is somewhere among the tiebreakers for playoff spots. However, the remote possibility that comes into play can't possibly offset the loss of a LT for even one week.

Obviously, Belichek is regarded as the game's finest coach. I really think this one could come back to bite him however.
No and no :no: I wouldnt disagree with you that pulling Brady and a gimpy ineffective Welker there was probably a good idea but you leave your line out there. If the other team has its 1st team defense out there your #1 line needs to be out there as well. Just because you choose to bench a Brady in a blowout doesnt mean you should put his backup in a bad situation by giving him an inferior blocking group.

 
The Patriots were winning last night 27-3 with 6:32 to play. The game was essentially over, as Palko and KC had proven over and over, they just weren't going to score even one TD in this game. The Patriots opted to bring out their first string offense and run plays from the spread. Nothing new to see here, this is the way the Patriots operate. However, on 2nd down, they call a WR screen to Welker. Pro Bowl LT Matt Light gets his leg rolled up on, and is hurt on the play. He ends up leaving the stadium in a walking boot. The next play, Brady passes again to Welker. Tamba Hali gets a good shot on Brady just after the pass leaves his hand. In 2007, the Patriots did this all the time. They'd run up the score on everyone. What's different now you may ask? This isn't 2007 anymore, and the Patriots aren't going to have a perfect season. Nor are they going to get the title "best offense ever". Tom Brady is 34 years old. His recovery time from each game can't be the same as it was four years ago. The human body just doesn't work that way. Belichek's decision led directly to his LT getting hurt, and put an extra unnecessary hit on his QB. I understand that point difference is somewhere among the tiebreakers for playoff spots. However, the remote possibility that comes into play can't possibly offset the loss of a LT for even one week. Obviously, Belichek is regarded as the game's finest coach. I really think this one could come back to bite him however.
This is pretty lame, especially since the Packer's could easily hear the same criticism. Personally, I don't think GB, the 07 Patriots or any of the other great offensive teams "ran up the score". Keeping the ball means icing the game and if that leads to the end zone... well, too bad. I think three runs and a punt actually exposes your defense to more risk as the opponent slings the ball down field.You can't bench the whole team and you can't play scared.
 
I have no problem running up scores. I fall into the "how bout you quit sucking and stop them" kinda crowd.

However, when the game is in the bag how bout you get some of your backups, especially QB, some reps? This can be valuable if said backups are called into duty.

 
Prob threw because they were on their own 38, once they passed the 50 it was all runs.
This is incorrect.They actually threw a touchdown on 2nd down with 1:11 left and KC having no timeouts left. It was called back for a penalty.Not that I have a problem with it, but just pointing it out. Even as someone who doesn't get bothered by teams running up the score it definitely stood out to me.
 
i think the chiefs brought it all on. there was about 5 minutes left and they were down by 24 ... why are they calling timeout? let the clock run out.

 

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