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Bench Vick...why no bench Romo? (1 Viewer)

delusional

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I find this kind of funny. Lately you been hearing nothing but "Time to bench Vick" or " Should Vick be benched?" Granted he had a rough start but that was to expected with no preseason for him, one of the worse offensive lines in the league & Marty M / Reid calling your plays. Yet the past couple games he hasn't been playing bad at all. Yet you still see him taking all the blame for the Eagles failures. Is he having a great year? By no means at all yet there are many factors into this too. Entire team is downright awful.

Now what I saw this morning while watching the NFL network was confusing. They had the Eagles/Falcons highlights on, followed by a "bench Vick" segment....now this is the part that struck me as odd. They followed up with the Giants Cowboys game. I don't think I heard once anyone mention " bench Romo?". They seemed to deflect blame to everyone BUT Romo. IMHO he has been playing alot worse then Vick has yet he isn't getting near the amount of blame Vick is getting.

That to me is a bit screwed up.

 
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'delusional said:
I find this kind of funny. Lately you been hearing nothing but "Time to bench Vick" or " Should Vick be benched?" Granted he had a rough start but that was to expected with no preseason for him, one of the worse offensive lines in the league & Marty M / Reid calling your plays. Yet the past couple games he hasn't been playing bad at all. Yet you still see him taking all the blame for the Eagles failures. Is he having a great year? By no means at all yet there are many factors into this too. Entire team is downright awful. Now what I saw this morning while watching the NFL network was confusing. They had the Eagles/Falcons highlights on, followed by a "bench Vick" segment....now this is the part that struck me as odd. They followed up with the Giants Cowboys game. I don't think I heard once anyone mention " bench Romo?". They seemed to deflect blame to everyone BUT Romo. IMHO he has been playing alot worse then Vick has yet he isn't getting near the amount of blame Vick is getting. That to me is a bit screwed up.
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Im sure Warren Moon will have an opinion on this.
 
Philly is 3-4, Dallas is 3-4.

Would Foles with Eagles be any worse/better than Orton with Cowboys?

Could Orton do better than Romo?

Romo: 2 games of 4 or more picks in last 4 games. 9 TD/ 13 INT on the year. And I know he has a couple lost fumbles (or more) in there.

I wonder - are Cowboys fans not starting to call for Romo to be pulled? If not, why not?

How about if there is one more of these 4-INT games, will that do it?

 
The Cowboys fans I know are fed up with Romo, and there is an article on CBS today saying it is time for Romo to hit the pine.

 
Personally, I think Dallas is in much better shape trotting out Kyle Orton than Philly is with Foles.

 
Have you watched the Cowboys games? Sure some of the mistakes are on him but so is the elite play at times as well. Not many teams would come back and make the game competative with that kind of deficit. Let's not forget "worst OL in Cowboys history" talks ... a thin skill position corps with all of their stars at less than 100% ... and questionable coaching and ill-timed defensive let-downs.

Felix is horrible any way you slice it and Dunbar kept running the ball out of the end-zone (Felix style) to set the Cowboys up in poor field position more often than not.

Does Romo get the blame for Dez fumbling the punt? For Felix fumbling a rush while running into his own linemen?

I'd be curious if Romo or Garret made the decision to not pick up the 1st down and 5 at the end of the game to get closer and milk the clock and instead take endzone shots.

In other games sure Romo has made bad calls but his TEAM put him in holes that called for desperation plays. His last INT yesterday was on 4th down when his OL completely let him down for example.

That said it is time to DRAFT a QB in the 1st few rounds perhaps even the 1st ... but Orton behind this OL with so many skill position holes is NOT the answer. Foles MIGHT be the future ... perhaps it's time to find out ... that's the difference.

 
I agree that it should be a consideration, but it's not, and that's part of the problem in Dallas. No accountability for anyone. You have the extreme guys like Coughlin who will let you ride the pine for weeks for a costly mistake and then on the other extreme you have the Dallas Cowboys.

 
'delusional said:
I find this kind of funny. Lately you been hearing nothing but "Time to bench Vick" or " Should Vick be benched?" Granted he had a rough start but that was to expected with no preseason for him, one of the worse offensive lines in the league & Marty M / Reid calling your plays. Yet the past couple games he hasn't been playing bad at all. Yet you still see him taking all the blame for the Eagles failures. Is he having a great year? By no means at all yet there are many factors into this too. Entire team is downright awful. Now what I saw this morning while watching the NFL network was confusing. They had the Eagles/Falcons highlights on, followed by a "bench Vick" segment....now this is the part that struck me as odd. They followed up with the Giants Cowboys game. I don't think I heard once anyone mention " bench Romo?". They seemed to deflect blame to everyone BUT Romo. IMHO he has been playing alot worse then Vick has yet he isn't getting near the amount of blame Vick is getting. That to me is a bit screwed up.
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:goodposting:
 
Apparently Jamie Dukes reads footballguys lol he was talking about this same issue today on the NFL Sirus network. Brought up Romo & River. Least its a start to the media to get on this.

 
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'delusional said:
They are letting personal bias get into this
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I think that's a big part of it. Vick has arguably been better than several QBs such as Romo, Rivers, Cam and Stafford (before last week anyway) this season. Even if we toss out Cam and Stafford as young QBs and give them more slack there are still other veteran QBs who are playing as bad or worse than Vick but we're not seeing The NFL Network and ESPN run hours and hours of coverage about whether they should be benched. The Cowboys even have a backup who's proven he can win a little bit in this league, something neither the Eagles or Chargers do. Not saying I'd bench Romo for Orton (I wouldn't) but I think you can at least have a conversation about that intelligently as opposed to a rookie who wasn't drafted with the expectation he'd be the starter this season.
 
'Sinn Fein said:
'Cookiemonster said:
Killed dogs:Romo = 0Vick = 100
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Thats why you think Vick needs to be benched?Why not just say he is a black thug from the ghetto?
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I don't have any television shows, nor do I write any sports articles. This thread was asking why THE MEDIA is calling for Vick's head and not Romo's. I don't think Vick needs to be benched. I don't think Romo needs to be benched. My reply has to do with THE MEDIA. Don't put words in my mouth.Why not just say I'm a white, momma's boy from the suburbs?
 
Has anyone mentioned it might be because of racial profiling? Just saying one is a white guy from America's Team, the other is a non-white guy from the town that booed Santa.

 
'Cookiemonster said:
'Sinn Fein said:
'Cookiemonster said:
Killed dogs:Romo = 0Vick = 100
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Thats why you think Vick needs to be benched?Why not just say he is a black thug from the ghetto?
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I don't have any television shows, nor do I write any sports articles. This thread was asking why THE MEDIA is calling for Vick's head and not Romo's. I don't think Vick needs to be benched. I don't think Romo needs to be benched. My reply has to do with THE MEDIA. Don't put words in my mouth.Why not just say I'm a white, momma's boy from the suburbs?
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:shrug: Ok, you're a white momma's boy from the suburbs
 
'packersfan said:
'delusional said:
They are letting personal bias get into this
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I think that's a big part of it. Vick has arguably been better than several QBs such as Romo, Rivers, Cam and Stafford (before last week anyway) this season. Even if we toss out Cam and Stafford as young QBs and give them more slack there are still other veteran QBs who are playing as bad or worse than Vick but we're not seeing The NFL Network and ESPN run hours and hours of coverage about whether they should be benched. The Cowboys even have a backup who's proven he can win a little bit in this league, something neither the Eagles or Chargers do. Not saying I'd bench Romo for Orton (I wouldn't) but I think you can at least have a conversation about that intelligently as opposed to a rookie who wasn't drafted with the expectation he'd be the starter this season.
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Exactly. If they were having dicussions about the group of qbs that could be benched it might be a different story but the fact they been focusing only on Vick, it says something. I am not a big Jamie Dukes fan but it is nice to see someone in that area bring this up. Thankfully it wasn't Warren Moon lol.
'Mr. Know-It-All said:
Has anyone mentioned it might be because of racial profiling? Just saying one is a white guy from America's Team, the other is a non-white guy from the town that booed Santa.
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I wouldn't say it is race. I just think its cause it is Vick himself. He gets looked at ALOT differently then other QBs. Even during the games with penalties and such. Can't count the amount of roughing the passer calls he should have gotten the past two seasons. Anyways, i don't think race has anything to do with it, I just think it is his personal history & peoples hate for that. Also the media's refusal to look at Reid in a negative light. Check my sig to get an idea of what i mean.
 
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Maybe its because a lot of Romo's turnovers came from his WR's making mistakes, such as running the wrong routes, etc. It has been broadcast multiple times that Dez ran the wrong route and that led to some of Romo's int's. Because of that, I think the media doesn't think Romo is responsible for all of the mistakes. On the other hand, watching Vick play, it appears he fumbles or throws ints due to his style of play.

I really don't think that race is a reason why the media is calling for Vick.

 
I'm from Dallas, and locally Romo get's tons of flack in the media....now the national media is a different story.

Personally, I think both teams are in the same situation.

Both teams have to live with the stretches of bad play, because the only reason either team has a chance to win games is because of their QB's....now maybe Philly goes with Foles if they feel he is the future, but Romo will not be benched for Orton.

 
I don't know about all media but Lombardi on the NFL Network has it in for Vick. That guy was foaming out the mouth with if Vick didn't play well on Sunday he would be benched.

 
Why not bench all 22 starters from the Eagles and also the Cowboys. Play the backups at all positions. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 
People wanting to bench Vick (or Romo) are delusional. Sure, they have flaws, but both are much better than their backups. Only way either gets benched is if their team is eliminated from playoffs AND backups are seen as legit future of the team. Just media created nonsense.

 
'death of the cool said:
now maybe Philly goes with Foles if they feel he is the future, but Romo will not be benched for Orton.
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Agree. That's exactly the reason. Orton has no chance of being the future and Foles made fans cheer in the preseason. Those who immediately think race, without considering the obvious, are the ones who ought to be questioning whether the racism is closer to home.
 
'tonystrong said:
Maybe its because a lot of Romo's turnovers came from his WR's making mistakes, such as running the wrong routes, etc. It has been broadcast multiple times that Dez ran the wrong route and that led to some of Romo's int's. Because of that, I think the media doesn't think Romo is responsible for all of the mistakes. On the other hand, watching Vick play, it appears he fumbles or throws ints due to his style of play. I really don't think that race is a reason why the media is calling for Vick.
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Finally a voice of reason rather than ignorance.
 
WHY IS THE MEDIA TALKING ABOUT BENCHING MARK SANCHEZ BUT NOT RUSSELL WILSON?????

GOSH!

When will the media stop being racist and can't we all just get along

 
'Alex P Keaton said:
'tonystrong said:
Maybe its because a lot of Romo's turnovers came from his WR's making mistakes, such as running the wrong routes, etc. It has been broadcast multiple times that Dez ran the wrong route and that led to some of Romo's int's. Because of that, I think the media doesn't think Romo is responsible for all of the mistakes. On the other hand, watching Vick play, it appears he fumbles or throws ints due to his style of play. I really don't think that race is a reason why the media is calling for Vick.
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Finally a voice of reason rather than ignorance.
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and dez is black, isn't he?
 
'tonystrong said:
Maybe its because a lot of Romo's turnovers came from his WR's making mistakes, such as running the wrong routes, etc.
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I like Romo but not all of his INTs can be blamed on his WRs. He's made some horrible decisions this season and definitely made a number of bad ones in the loss to the Giants that, in my opinion, played a significant role in the outcome of the game (unlike Vick in Week 8 whose impact on the loss was far less significant than the putrid play of team's defense). I'm not going to get into the race issue and whether it's perceived or real in this case but Vick is certainly far more controversial than Romo (or Rivers) and therefore I think it's easier to single him out as someone who should be benched even though you can make a strong argument that 1) he's nowhere close to being the primary reason why the Eagles are currently struggling and 2) there are other high-profile veteran QBs playing just as bad or worse who aren't in any danger of being benched or constantly being rumored about being on the verge of being benched.
 
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I'm surprised no one has stated the obvious reason as to why everyone's talking about Vick and not Romo...because Philly fans have always been impatient and calling for the benching of their QBs, or the firing of Reid, etc. All they do is complain.

 
'packersfan said:
'tonystrong said:
Maybe its because a lot of Romo's turnovers came from his WR's making mistakes, such as running the wrong routes, etc.
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I like Romo but not all of his INTs can be blamed on his WRs. He's made some horrible decisions this season and definitely made a number of bad ones in the loss to the Giants that, in my opinion, played a significant role in the outcome of the game (unlike Vick in Week 8 whose impact on the loss was far less significant than the putrid play of team's defense). I'm not going to get into the race issue and whether it's perceived or real in this case but Vick is certainly far more controversial than Romo (or Rivers) and therefore I think it's easier to single him out as someone who should be benched even though you can make a strong argument that 1) he's nowhere close to being the primary reason why the Eagles are currently struggling and 2) there are other high-profile veteran QBs playing just as bad or worse who aren't in any danger of being benched or constantly being rumored about being on the verge of being benched.
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Romo's blaming someone every time he throws a pick is getting old. Yeah Dez might run a wrong route now and then, but I don't see him blaming Austin when he threw that pick that was intended for him. The pick he threw in Dez's direction was awful. Safety over the top just waiting for it, then he hits up Dez on the sideline like he ran the wrong route....well why did you throw it ROMO?Never thought Romo was worth the money they paid him....something like 60 million when he had 17 starts iirc.
 
'Alex P Keaton said:
'tonystrong said:
Maybe its because a lot of Romo's turnovers came from his WR's making mistakes, such as running the wrong routes, etc. It has been broadcast multiple times that Dez ran the wrong route and that led to some of Romo's int's. Because of that, I think the media doesn't think Romo is responsible for all of the mistakes. On the other hand, watching Vick play, it appears he fumbles or throws ints due to his style of play. I really don't think that race is a reason why the media is calling for Vick.
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Finally a voice of reason rather than ignorance.
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Vick is an extremely polarizing player and is the QB of a team from whom much was expected this year. That team is looking like it could implode and has already fired a coordinator. There's a lot more "blood in the water" in Philly than in Dallas and the media sharks are circling...
 
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The reality is that some people have their prejudices. And one of the most significant prejudices in this day and age is to yell "Racism!" whenever there is a hint of something critical of a black. Like with all prejudices, sometimes they are correct; but mostly they are not.

 
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