Burning Sensation
Footballguy
How in the world are the Titans +1 against the Bengals?
I thought the Panthers +9 last week was free money.

I thought the Panthers +9 last week was free money.
Its one of the best AFC teams vs. maybe the worst. I know the Bengals are at home, but i really dont think it is going to matter.The Titans are going to absolutely destroy the Bengals in week 2. Poor Ocho Cinco. The Titans hit very hard.
I agree they'll probably be better but I still question their line, Chad Johnson is playing hurt, their running game is totally unproven and their defense will still probably be horrible. I think the Bengals are in for a bad year and Marvin gets the axe. Things can change fast though....Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
x2 Tenn will not shutdown ocho/housh like Balt did. This will be a high scoring game.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone's assuming based on what they saw the previous week of these 2 teams. Cincy was a pitiful 3-7 when Tennessee came to town with it's 6-4 record. Expectations were low for the Bungals but they crushed the Titans and I believe Carson hooked up with CJ for 3 td's in that game. This is the NFL.....parity.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
The Bengals Defense is terrible.The Bengals O-Line is terrible.Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.This is not 2007.The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.That is all.Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone's assuming based on what they saw the previous week of these 2 teams. Cincy was a pitiful 3-7 when Tennessee came to town with it's 6-4 record. Expectations were low for the Bungals but they crushed the Titans and I believe Carson hooked up with CJ for 3 td's in that game. This is the NFL.....parity.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
You forgot one:Titans did not have Chris Johnson last year.The Bengals Defense is terrible.The Bengals O-Line is terrible.Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.This is not 2007.The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.That is all.Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone's assuming based on what they saw the previous week of these 2 teams. Cincy was a pitiful 3-7 when Tennessee came to town with it's 6-4 record. Expectations were low for the Bungals but they crushed the Titans and I believe Carson hooked up with CJ for 3 td's in that game. This is the NFL.....parity.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
I hope you're putting every dime you can scrape up on this game then guru, because Vegas disagrees. You sure are talking like you know what's going to happen, why don't you back it up? If you're confident you should come away from this weekend a rich man.That is all.The Bengals Defense is terrible.The Bengals O-Line is terrible.Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.This is not 2007.The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.That is all.Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone's assuming based on what they saw the previous week of these 2 teams. Cincy was a pitiful 3-7 when Tennessee came to town with it's 6-4 record. Expectations were low for the Bungals but they crushed the Titans and I believe Carson hooked up with CJ for 3 td's in that game. This is the NFL.....parity.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
I don't think those two will be shutout like that for the rest of the season.That said, Cortland is a very very good CB. At least one of them has a tough game this week.x2 Tenn will not shutdown ocho/housh like Balt did. This will be a high scoring game.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.
Some good points. Also the Titans had 7 sacks last week. I still am shocked Willie's not there. Jeremi out for the year is another big blow to their blocking game. Without a running game D's are going to go after Carson every play they can.Carson is going to either have a rough year or be calling tons of quick short passes, he's going to have to roll out on his bad knee etc. I think he's an exceptional QB but without protection what QB does well? I really wonder about Cincy this year and don't feel like the "just one game" exception applies.If they run for 50 yards it will be alot. The Titans have a good pass rush and I think will give Palmer problems all day. On the flip side the feared tandem of McLain and Rice rolled up 150 yards on the ground behind an awful O-line and a 1st game starting rookie QB. Tenn should be able to run the ball 40+ times and should be in for a HUGE day.The only reason I can see the spread being +1 is due to the fact that Young is hurt and fear that that will impact the offense. If you watched the game or preseason Young has been downright awful and Collins should be a pretty decent upgrade.
Just to note: quick, short passes are what he used to pick the Titans apart last year.Some good points. Also the Titans had 7 sacks last week. I still am shocked Willie's not there. Jeremi out for the year is another big blow to their blocking game. Without a running game D's are going to go after Carson every play they can.If they run for 50 yards it will be alot. The Titans have a good pass rush and I think will give Palmer problems all day. On the flip side the feared tandem of McLain and Rice rolled up 150 yards on the ground behind an awful O-line and a 1st game starting rookie QB. Tenn should be able to run the ball 40+ times and should be in for a HUGE day.
The only reason I can see the spread being +1 is due to the fact that Young is hurt and fear that that will impact the offense. If you watched the game or preseason Young has been downright awful and Collins should be a pretty decent upgrade.
Carson is going to either have a rough year or be calling tons of quick short passes, he's going to have to roll out on his bad knee etc. I think he's an exceptional QB but without protection what QB does well? I really wonder about Cincy this year and don't feel like the "just one game" exception applies.
Not sure how I feel about that then. Fisher is very good and I don't think you beat his team the same way twice. Well it is pretty hard to stop their WRs and everyone tries. They have to throw a bunch of short ones don't they? It'll be interesting to see what Fisher's gameplan is and if Marvin is up to the challengebmetz said:Just to note: quick, short passes are what he used to pick the Titans apart last year.
CASS101 said:The Bengals Defense is terrible.
No
The Bengals O-Line is terrible.
Yes
Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.
No
TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.
Chad isn't a decoy
The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.
They were probably going to start Coates anyways
This is not 2007.
OK
The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.
I would take them +1 without blinking. Dominate? We'll see.
That is all.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Marvin's not up to the challenge.It'll be interesting to see what Fisher's gameplan is and if Marvin is up to the challenge
He's got his back to the wall. He might have a rabbit in a hat somewhere.I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Marvin's not up to the challenge.It'll be interesting to see what Fisher's gameplan is and if Marvin is up to the challenge
Dude needs to pack his bags. This is gonna get ugly fast in Cincy. I can see a 1-5 start and as bad as 0-8.I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Marvin's not up to the challenge.It'll be interesting to see what Fisher's gameplan is and if Marvin is up to the challenge
-Are you telling me the defense is good? The same D that allowed the Ravens fullback to rush for 86 yards, not counting what Rice added.-Ocho Cinco is most definitely injured. And he only had 4 targets in the last game. He caught one pass.CASS101 said:The Bengals Defense is terrible.
No
The Bengals O-Line is terrible.
Yes
Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.
No
TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.
Chad isn't a decoy
The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.
They were probably going to start Coates anyways
This is not 2007.
OK
The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.
I would take them +1 without blinking. Dominate? We'll see.
That is all.
-Are you telling me the defense is good? The same D that allowed the Ravens fullback to rush for 86 yards, not counting what Rice added.The pass D is pretty good, actually. Hall and Joseph each broke up 3 passes. Both the Ravens TDs came on gadget or busted plays. At the beginnning they stopped Ray Rice from doing much, and in the end when they were worn down McClain got to run all over the place. I will say they still have trouble tackling really physical RBs.CASS101 said:The Bengals Defense is terrible.
No
The Bengals O-Line is terrible.
Yes
Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.
No
TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.
Chad isn't a decoy
The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.
They were probably going to start Coates anyways
This is not 2007.
OK
The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.
I would take them +1 without blinking. Dominate? We'll see.
That is all.
-Ocho Cinco is most definitely injured. And he only had 4 targets in the last game. He caught one pass.
Yes he is injured. What I meant is that he isn't a decoy, he is a viable option on most plays. The Bengals OLine isn't giving Palmer enough time to hit him. Those 3 missed targets were bad throws because Palmer had to rush the throw.
-No, I don't think TJ puts up the same stats as usual without a healthy Ocho Cinco on the field.
I don't think TJ puts up the same stats as usual because of the OLine issues. Palmer is not a good QB with pressure in his face. I don't think it has anything to do with Chad.
I would be absolutely shocked if TN didn't win this game.
I'd put money on TEN +1 and be surprised if the Bengals pull this one out.
So...you're making an argument FOR Cincy by showing how well Cleveland bounced back against them?I'm instantly reminded of another Week 2.2007 Week 1 - PIT 34 @ CLE 7Week 2 - CIN 45 @ CLE 51Does anyone else remember how BADLY Cleveland looked in Week 1 last year and how BADLY they were going to be stomped at home, in Week 2?
As a Titans homer, I have to say....I am excited about Collins starting. Man, that sounds weird... If he can just manage the game and not turn the ball over, that would give us a much better chance of winning games at this point IMO.I got 2 words Kerry Collins
I'm making an argument for the home team after a devastating Week 1 divisional loss.So...you're making an argument FOR Cincy by showing how well Cleveland bounced back against them?I'm instantly reminded of another Week 2.2007 Week 1 - PIT 34 @ CLE 7Week 2 - CIN 45 @ CLE 51Does anyone else remember how BADLY Cleveland looked in Week 1 last year and how BADLY they were going to be stomped at home, in Week 2?
And I'm saying that the Bungals have a history of making teams look better than they are.I'm making an argument for the home team after a devastating Week 1 divisional loss.So...you're making an argument FOR Cincy by showing how well Cleveland bounced back against them?I'm instantly reminded of another Week 2.2007 Week 1 - PIT 34 @ CLE 7Week 2 - CIN 45 @ CLE 51Does anyone else remember how BADLY Cleveland looked in Week 1 last year and how BADLY they were going to be stomped at home, in Week 2?
palmer is great at standing in and getting rid of the ball. same as last year. the bengals sack totals are always down but palmer is under a ton of pressure. you have to watch the games to notice it. otherwise you will read articles from major publications stating how good the oline is and how they dont give up many sacks.The thing that jumps out at me is that the Bengals only gave up 2 sacks to Baltimore. If their O line is so bad you would think a QB as immobile as Palmer would have been on his back the entire game against the Ravens front 7. Now they get the Titans who hung 7 sacks on the Jags. Can someone who saw the game let me know why Palmer only complete 10 passes against the Ravens. Was it that he was rushed to throw it away constantly, drops or great DB coverage? I think that ever since he got hurt against Pitt in the playoff's two years ago he is a bit gunshy in the pocket.Any Cincy homers help here.
He was definitely rushed to throw it constantly. He was mostly hitting dirt since the receivers weren't ready, from what I could tell. I honestly don't think it had to do with anything other than a terrible o-line and a clever Ravens defense that never stopped applying pressure.The thing that jumps out at me is that the Bengals only gave up 2 sacks to Baltimore. If their O line is so bad you would think a QB as immobile as Palmer would have been on his back the entire game against the Ravens front 7. Now they get the Titans who hung 7 sacks on the Jags. Can someone who saw the game let me know why Palmer only complete 10 passes against the Ravens. Was it that he was rushed to throw it away constantly, drops or great DB coverage? I think that ever since he got hurt against Pitt in the playoff's two years ago he is a bit gunshy in the pocket.Any Cincy homers help here.
There were a few drops, the INT went off of Housh. Even though they only sacked him twice... they were in his face everytime and hit him plenty. Chad said they were playing some kind of "playground D" that they didn't have an answer for.The thing that jumps out at me is that the Bengals only gave up 2 sacks to Baltimore. If their O line is so bad you would think a QB as immobile as Palmer would have been on his back the entire game against the Ravens front 7. Now they get the Titans who hung 7 sacks on the Jags. Can someone who saw the game let me know why Palmer only complete 10 passes against the Ravens. Was it that he was rushed to throw it away constantly, drops or great DB coverage? I think that ever since he got hurt against Pitt in the playoff's two years ago he is a bit gunshy in the pocket.Any Cincy homers help here.
Honestly I am not sure that Palmer got a single pass off in the first half that he wasnt hit, or close to it.The thing that jumps out at me is that the Bengals only gave up 2 sacks to Baltimore. If their O line is so bad you would think a QB as immobile as Palmer would have been on his back the entire game against the Ravens front 7. Now they get the Titans who hung 7 sacks on the Jags. Can someone who saw the game let me know why Palmer only complete 10 passes against the Ravens. Was it that he was rushed to throw it away constantly, drops or great DB coverage? I think that ever since he got hurt against Pitt in the playoff's two years ago he is a bit gunshy in the pocket.Any Cincy homers help here.
I guess Vegas was wrong.I hope you're putting every dime you can scrape up on this game then guru, because Vegas disagrees. You sure are talking like you know what's going to happen, why don't you back it up? If you're confident you should come away from this weekend a rich man.That is all.The Bengals Defense is terrible.The Bengals O-Line is terrible.Ocho Cinco is injured and more or less playing decoy at the moment.TJ Houshmanzadeh is a #2 WR who doesn't do as well with the D focusing on him with Cinco not attracting the double teams.The Bengals lost their starting fullback Johnson for the season.This is not 2007.The Titans will dominate the Bengals in week 2.That is all.
ParityExactly what I was thinking. Everyone's assuming based on what they saw the previous week of these 2 teams. Cincy was a pitiful 3-7 when Tennessee came to town with it's 6-4 record. Expectations were low for the Bungals but they crushed the Titans and I believe Carson hooked up with CJ for 3 td's in that game. This is the NFL.....parity.Don't count Cincy out. They blew the Titans out last year 35-6 at home and the Tenn DB's don't match up as well as the Ravens did.. If they can get off to a fast start and create a turnover or 2 the crowd will also remain a factor. I know the Bengals looked horrible last week but something tells me they wil be much better on Sunday.