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Best Ancestry DNA Test? (1 Viewer)

23 & Me is the go to. I've also read that Ancestry gives out your data based on the fine print (if that matters to you) where as 23Nme doesn't.

Ancestry breaks down your DNA by guesses at specific countries. 23Nme instead gives you more general regions.

 
Did a lot of research on these for a gift to my wife, who really wanted to dig into her family tree.

  • Family Tree DNA is what the hard-core, amateur genealogists use for its DNA accuracy and detail (tracks specific markers, you can pretty much decode your own genome, etc.)
  • 23andMe has the benefit of health and predisposition flags and more people are starting to use it so the database of potential matches is growing
  • Ancestry has the simplest results to interpret and the largest database of others that have used it, increasing the chances you'll find matches
So it depends on what you're looking for. If you just want the novelty of knowing what "mix" you are, Ancestry is fine. 

 
Did a lot of research on these for a gift to my wife, who really wanted to dig into her family tree.

  • Family Tree DNA is what the hard-core, amateur genealogists use for its DNA accuracy and detail (tracks specific markers, you can pretty much decode your own genome, etc.)
  • 23andMe has the benefit of health and predisposition flags and more people are starting to use it so the database of potential matches is growing
  • Ancestry has the simplest results to interpret and the largest database of others that have used it, increasing the chances you'll find matches
So it depends on what you're looking for. If you just want the novelty of knowing what "mix" you are, Ancestry is fine. 
We're debating between 23andme and family tree dna for our daughter, adopted from southern China (between Vietnam and Hong Kong) last year. We already know she has one genetic disorder, which we're handling. But we have no idea about anything else. 

I want to do 23andme for my wife and I (not sure if there's any value in having all of our bio kids take it?) Wife has zero interest in doing it for us.

 
My brother in law did a 23/me thing.  I found the results to be mostly a yawn.  They can't really distinguish most of the EU from itself, and they can't distinguish native american from pacific islanders.  I'm sure there are other things like that, but those are the ones he bumped into.

I mean I understand why they have those limitations, but don't expect to really get any better idea on your heritage over what your grandma knew, unless you are adopted or something.

 
One thing that I would recommend is doing a bit of genealogical legwork prior to testing your DNA.

Depending on which test you take, they may put you in touch with other people who share common ancestors with you. It will help you to piece together that puzzle if you've already created a family tree.

 
Send it to me.

My girlfriend will tell you everything you need to know about yourself and your future after one sip of your DNA.

 
culdeus said:

I mean I understand why they have those limitations, but don't expect to really get any better idea on your heritage over what your grandma knew, unless you are adopted or something.
Hey, I had one grandma who thought she was half-Jewish and another who thought she was half-Native American, and both were full of ####.

 
Hey, I had one grandma who thought she was half-Jewish and another who thought she was half-Native American, and both were full of ####.
My wife and sister both did the 23/me thing, and both were somewhat surprised. My wife thought she was mostly German, with one grandparent fully native American. Turns out, there's zero native american, and a whole slew of Eastern European. 

My siblings and myself were always told we were half Italian. According to 23/me, at least for my sis, it was more like 20%. But then again, many people came from somewhere else. Maybe that relative who dictated we were 50% Italian was only recently in Italy.  

 
My brother in law did a 23/me thing.  I found the results to be mostly a yawn.  They can't really distinguish most of the EU from itself, and they can't distinguish native american from pacific islanders.  I'm sure there are other things like that, but those are the ones he bumped into.

I mean I understand why they have those limitations, but don't expect to really get any better idea on your heritage over what your grandma knew, unless you are adopted or something.
Interesting you say that. I did 23andMe in November and had a breakdown of British & Irish, Scandanavian, French & German, and "Broadly Northwestern Europe" each in amounts greater than 15% with a smattering of others. I thought it was fairly detailed but have not seen how much more detail is in other companies' offerings.

 
Interesting you say that. I did 23andMe in November and had a breakdown of British & Irish, Scandanavian, French & German, and "Broadly Northwestern Europe" each in amounts greater than 15% with a smattering of others. I thought it was fairly detailed but have not seen how much more detail is in other companies' offerings.
It's always possible to get something that is super pure.  I was sort of expecting them to be able to ID scottish/irish/etc. inside each major region to a higher degree.  

I don't think it's a limitation of any one database, it's just simply not as easy to do.

 
We were intrigued and signed up for the FamilyTree DNA standard test. Was disappointed by the results. I guess it depends what you want to use it for.

1. I received a very long list (in the thousands) of distant living relations - mostly 3rd-5th cousins. Interesting perhaps, though I was less interested in finding distant relatives and more interested to understand my family history and origins.  

2. The standard tests provided us with basic 'migration' info. The DNA tests showed that I am of 'Central and Eastern European' Ancestry. Problem is I knew that already. Suffice to say I would have liked more specificity around which specific countries/cities in Europe (and over which time periods) but I guess that's not possible just yet. The tests simply map you to known clusters or groups of people and all subsequent info is generic.

3. The 'Ancient Origins' tab sounded cool - I learned that I'm originally 66% farmer, and 16% Hunter-gatherer, and 18% 'Metal age worker'. But then I clicked on the link for more details, and it redirected me to a generic web page that describes each group. Again, not really sure what I was expecting to learn but somehow felt disappointed.

4. Here's the kicker. For more detailed results, you need to shell out additional cash so they can run additional tests. Now that I'm now skeptical about their product, its not something I'm willing to do

 
I just had the results of my test come back.  Went with My Heritage.  Pretty interesting results.  Turned out I didn't have any Native American which I was almost certain I had on my Mothers side.  Turns out I am 48.7% Irish, Scottish and Welch.  29.4% Scandinavian.  10.8% Eastern European.  9.6% North African and 1.5% Nigerian.  

I love my father dearly but this is going to be karma for him.  I firmly believe my beliefs were influenced by him and by his racist views.  I like to think I don't have a racist bone in my body because of him.  He made Archie Bunker look like an angel.  Anyway I do love my father and hope I have him around for a few more years but I am going to tell him.  I hope it makes a difference even if it is this late in life.

 
I just had the results of my test come back.  Went with My Heritage.  Pretty interesting results.  Turned out I didn't have any Native American which I was almost certain I had on my Mothers side.  Turns out I am 48.7% Irish, Scottish and Welch.  29.4% Scandinavian.  10.8% Eastern European.  9.6% North African and 1.5% Nigerian.  

I love my father dearly but this is going to be karma for him.  I firmly believe my beliefs were influenced by him and by his racist views.  I like to think I don't have a racist bone in my body because of him.  He made Archie Bunker look like an angel.  Anyway I do love my father and hope I have him around for a few more years but I am going to tell him.  I hope it makes a difference even if it is this late in life.
Congratulations.  You are a mutt just like the rest of us.

 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.
 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.
My family had something very similar happen. An unknown half sister was added to the family. Back in the 60s, it was a little more of a guessing game who the father was and it was the wrong guess. Took over 50 years to get the real answer.

I have my suspicions that massive amounts of DNA data can be used to engineer targeted bioweapons. It would be reassuring to see 23&me just delete everything they collected, but I also think if someone wanted their data they've already accessed it.
 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.
My family had something very similar happen. An unknown half sister was added to the family. Back in the 60s, it was a little more of a guessing game who the father was and it was the wrong guess. Took over 50 years to get the real answer.

I have my suspicions that massive amounts of DNA data can be used to engineer targeted bioweapons. It would be reassuring to see 23&me just delete everything they collected, but I also think if someone wanted their data they've already accessed it.
It was pretty wild to find this information after all these years, but how it worked out in the end was pretty awesome.

I also found some good genetic data about myself i might not have otherwise (having no medical history for half my dna). I'm apoe4 heterozygous so i try and take good care of my brain health and now having found my bio father i know my paternal grandmother died of dementia. I suppose i owe this test for all that.

If i knew all this before would i have still tested my genetics on the internet? I'm not sure, but in my situation i wouldn't change a thing.
 
Oh come on.

I'm generally with Occam and his razor, but nothing surprises me anymore. The depths and detail a country like China or Russia will go to is astounding, and you can plausibly argue they've probably hacked these sites and collected the personal data. To what ends they might be using that data is something I don't know about, and it's probably on some hard drive somewhere where they're charged with figuring out how to use it but haven't yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if they'd collected it regardless.

Then again, Russia has shown in its war with Ukraine that its military strategy is to throw waves and waves of bodies at the opposition in the hopes of just outnumbering the opposition. For all the bluster about their advanced war schools and strategy, that's essentially what they've done, and it's why they're bogged down in three years of warfare with what had been a much smaller, relatively divided country (I mean, Ukraine was having trouble keeping Russian influence out of their politics as late as 2010-4, I believe). So Ukraine being united, organized, and skilled enough to survive that sort of overwhelming onslaught is nothing short of a miracle given what Russia is, or at least what it claimed to be. North Korean troops are actively assisting Russia because they need more bodies to overwhelm the smaller population. Rather than using tactical warfare, they're advancing along the front because of sheer numbers.

To tie this in, much like we give Russia too much credit for its military and their tactical prowess, we probably also give China too much credit for its organizing and data mining/technological capabilities. That said, things like DeepSeek being developed in China is a product (it's more like an event or a window into China) that is troubling and illuminating. China is pretty darn advanced and organized even compared to our deep and information-gathering state, and whatever data practices we were using to harvest data from our own citizens (and we were logging personal data in a methodical, deep way at a deeply alarming level via the NSA), we can bet that China probably has at least a reasonable imitation of those same practices on those very citizens. They want U.S. citizen data badly, and they'll go to great lengths to get it.
 
I have my suspicions that massive amounts of DNA data can be used to engineer targeted bioweapons.
Oh come on.
That idea has been floating around certain circles for a while now.

Yes, Congresscritters are easily led. They can be manipulated to believe in Ukrainian bioweapons labs and Jewish space lasers. We all know that.

"Oh come on" was because this belongs in the Conspiracy thread. If you want to keep pushing your advocacy of this idea that's probably a better place, rather than derailing a topic about online DNA tests in which you've been quite helpful.
 
I have my suspicions that massive amounts of DNA data can be used to engineer targeted bioweapons.
Oh come on.
That idea has been floating around certain circles for a while now.

Yes, Congresscritters are easily led. They can be manipulated to believe in Ukrainian bioweapons labs and Jewish space lasers. We all know that.

"Oh come on" was because this belongs in the Conspiracy thread. If you want to keep pushing your advocacy of this idea that's probably a better place, rather than derailing a topic about online DNA tests in which you've been quite helpful.
Fair enough. I don't intend to push it any further because it's not a huge deal in my eyes. I just wanted to highlight shared concerns over why selling DNA holdings could be a bad thing.
 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.

Similar but never found the deadbeat.
 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.

Similar but never found the deadbeat.
I was never really interested growing up, i was curious, but my family never talked about it and i was raised by great people and had a dad, bio or not. I've been interested in genealogy about the family i did know but didn't sweat what i didn't. I mostly took the test to know medical data since doctors would ask and i didn't know. Curiosity got the best of me and after a few years on the site i decided to unlock the dna relatives section and a bunch of cousins showed up. One reached out to me and together we did a little work to narrow it down. I finally had the conversation with my mom and she confirmed it and that he never knew. It took about 4 years to work up the courage, but crazy enough we live in the same town and one day he was outside and I stopped by. Was this the right way to do it? Probably not lol, but there's no handbook for this kind of thing I'm aware of. Since then we've gotten to know each other and the amount of things we have in common is eerie. The craziest part though is looking at myself in the mirror now. It's not a bad thing, but i never looked like anyone in my family and all of a sudden I'm a dead ringer for someone i didn't even know for the first 45+ years of my life. It's an odd feeling.
 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.

Similar but never found the deadbeat.
I was never really interested growing up, i was curious, but my family never talked about it and i was raised by great people and had a dad, bio or not. I've been interested in genealogy about the family i did know but didn't sweat what i didn't. I mostly took the test to know medical data since doctors would ask and i didn't know. Curiosity got the best of me and after a few years on the site i decided to unlock the dna relatives section and a bunch of cousins showed up. One reached out to me and together we did a little work to narrow it down. I finally had the conversation with my mom and she confirmed it and that he never knew. It took about 4 years to work up the courage, but crazy enough we live in the same town and one day he was outside and I stopped by. Was this the right way to do it? Probably not lol, but there's no handbook for this kind of thing I'm aware of. Since then we've gotten to know each other and the amount of things we have in common is eerie. The craziest part though is looking at myself in the mirror now. It's not a bad thing, but i never looked like anyone in my family and all of a sudden I'm a dead ringer for someone i didn't even know for the first 45+ years of my life. It's an odd feeling.

I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way to do what you did. You have every right, it’s your life.

Grats! I’m sure it was a shocker for him. Was he married? Have kids? Good guy?
 
Good old 23andMe. Boy did they make for an interesting outing one summer night. I remember it well. It left an indelible mark . . . a stain that will never come out. To summarize, the first time my family went out to a joint dinner with my wife's family, all our kids came along. They all had submitted their profiles to 23andMe on their own and checked to see who else they were related to AT DINNER. Well, let's just say we could have had an episode of Jerry Springer right then and there. Or as Desi Arnez used to say . . . “Lucy! You got some ‘splainin’ to do!” If you want to know what the definition of an awkward experience, that was it.
 
23&Me filles for bankruptcy. Info on how to delete your profile below, but anyone who wanted that data probably has it already...


Deleted my data this morning. I certainly knew the risks, but i grew up not knowing my biological father and I got lucky through their relatives section and found a cousin that led me to finding him some 40 years plus later. For me it was worth exposing my totally average middle aged white guy dna for that opportunity. Ofcourse ymmv to whether or not a service like this would be worth the risk.

Similar but never found the deadbeat.
I was never really interested growing up, i was curious, but my family never talked about it and i was raised by great people and had a dad, bio or not. I've been interested in genealogy about the family i did know but didn't sweat what i didn't. I mostly took the test to know medical data since doctors would ask and i didn't know. Curiosity got the best of me and after a few years on the site i decided to unlock the dna relatives section and a bunch of cousins showed up. One reached out to me and together we did a little work to narrow it down. I finally had the conversation with my mom and she confirmed it and that he never knew. It took about 4 years to work up the courage, but crazy enough we live in the same town and one day he was outside and I stopped by. Was this the right way to do it? Probably not lol, but there's no handbook for this kind of thing I'm aware of. Since then we've gotten to know each other and the amount of things we have in common is eerie. The craziest part though is looking at myself in the mirror now. It's not a bad thing, but i never looked like anyone in my family and all of a sudden I'm a dead ringer for someone i didn't even know for the first 45+ years of my life. It's an odd feeling.

I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way to do what you did. You have every right, it’s your life.

Grats! I’m sure it was a shocker for him. Was he married? Have kids? Good guy?
My heart was about to beat out of my chest and i just kind of looked at him for what felt like an hour, but probably was 2 seconds. He was floored when i finally got the words out. He took a test aswell to confirm.

He's been married twice, still with his second wife and she's been super cool and very encouraging and accepting of us getting to know each other. Never had any kids, but said he and his wife joked around that there might be someone out there, totally joking and then bam, congratulations it's a 45 year old man :lmao:. Really good guy and we have a ton in common. It's been a pretty good experience. I was almost going to just take this info to the grave, but life got tricky and i had a wake up call and didn't want to have anymore loose ends. It was a risk not knowing him from any other stranger on the street, but it worked out better than i could have expected.
 
Good old 23andMe. Boy did they make for an interesting outing one summer night. I remember it well. It left an indelible mark . . . a stain that will never come out. To summarize, the first time my family went out to a joint dinner with my wife's family, all our kids came along. They all had submitted their profiles to 23andMe on their own and checked to see who else they were related to AT DINNER. Well, let's just say we could have had an episode of Jerry Springer right then and there. Or as Desi Arnez used to say . . . “Lucy! You got some ‘splainin’ to do!” If you want to know what the definition of an awkward experience, that was it.
The other side of the happy ending......
 
I just wanted to highlight shared concerns over why selling DNA holdings could be a bad thing.
Even without concerns that some might think are a longshot/conspiracy/unlikely (which I am open to, and I am not a conspiracy theorist) I am sure we could come up with several reasons that hit closer to home for people.

For example: Trusting some lab somewhere to have accurate info. And all the issues that could arise in a family if a lab has incorrect/incomplete info.

Two of brothers both did it and got different responses. I deal with testing labs in my business, and they are FAR from above reproach. Spit in a cup, and trust the for-profit lab you send it to completely? Not wise, IMO.
 

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