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Best college football rivalry (1 Viewer)
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Warehouse Nasty
Footballguy
I think some are confusing the term significance with rivalry here. A rivalry has to transcend time-it has to mean that no matter what the teams records are that game still means more than any game on the schedule. It means that people of all ages still make plans to watch that game each year and still want so badly to beat the other team so that they can have bragging rights for the next year. I can go on, but I'll get cheesy, and I think you get my drift.
The Florida St-Miami game, while probably being the most significant game of the past 15-20 years, cannot compare to some on this list when it comes to being the best rivalry. For the best rivalry it has to be one of the following:
-Auburn v Alabama
-Texas v Oklahoma
-Texas v Texas A&M (my personal pick)
-Michigan v Ohio St
-Army v Navy
Granted, I don't include any of the smaller schools to this list simply because I don't know enough about them but they could very well be deserving. Now, we could argue on and on about which is the best, but we will never decide because these intense rivalries mean something different to each person involved and they all can truly lay claim to being the best.
The Florida St-Miami game, while probably being the most significant game of the past 15-20 years, cannot compare to some on this list when it comes to being the best rivalry. For the best rivalry it has to be one of the following:
-Auburn v Alabama
-Texas v Oklahoma
-Texas v Texas A&M (my personal pick)
-Michigan v Ohio St
-Army v Navy
Granted, I don't include any of the smaller schools to this list simply because I don't know enough about them but they could very well be deserving. Now, we could argue on and on about which is the best, but we will never decide because these intense rivalries mean something different to each person involved and they all can truly lay claim to being the best.
Warehouse Nasty
Footballguy
Huh? All Miami has is casual fans
Family Matters
Footballguy
It's great to see so many opinions. It's even greater to see these football rivalries. They are all fantastic and make up what is college football as we know it! Outstanding!
Warehouse Nasty
Footballguy
Also, perhaps USC-UCLA should be added to the list; I honestly don't know enough about it to say it does or does not stack up...
buckeye35
Footballguy
Capella, give ME a break!Columbus is 15th among U.S. cities ranked by city proper population. Miami is nowhere to be found on that list.If you throw in all the surrounding areas (urban agglomeration population), then Miami is 12th with 3,876,380 people. Columbus comes in at #31 with 1,540,157 people -- hardly a small city.Link to population statsI thought you were smarter than that.
RAIDERNATION.
Footballguy
Your two points make no sense to me. If academics are important, athletics cannot be??? Sorry, those two things are not mutually exclusive, despite what you've heard... (See: Duke basketball). To address your second point, if you have respect for the opposition, they cannot be your rival? Ooooookay then.
Look, I think the main problem here is that none of us can seem to reach an agreement regarding what the definition of "rivalry" is. As I said on page one of this thread, I think true rivals want to beat each other so badly, they would give up a kidney in order to ensure victory. When I stated that, it wasn't meant to be hyperbole. In my opinion, if God himself approached each member of the Army and Navy squads before the big game and said "If you give up one of your kidneys, your team will be assured of a win today", I ***HONESTLY*** believe that 95% of the players on both teams would do so without hesitation. It's an extreme example to be sure, but I'm trying to illustrate that Army/Navy IN MY OPINION is the biggest rivalry, simply because those two programs want to win -that game- more than anyone else wants to win -any- other game -anywhere- in the world. The fact that Army and Navy have vastly inferior talent compared to the perennial CFB powers should not be something which is held against them. They try harder than anyone else, even though not a single one of them will be playing in the NFL.
I knew this thread would heat up sooner or later.
RAIDERNATION.
Footballguy
I could not have said it better myself
PLEASE take a moment to read this article. He conveys perfectly what I attempted to.
PLEASE take a moment to read this article. He conveys perfectly what I attempted to.
Capella
Footballguy
Look, nobody is debating that Army-Navy is a tremendous rivarly...but outside of the context of those two schools, it is essentially meaningless.Sometimes, the only win those teams get all year are against each other. Every now and then they have a decent season (6 or 7 wins), but they should really be in 1-AA...I mean, didn't Army go winless this year?
RAIDERNATION.
Footballguy
I hope you mean that the game itself is meaningless, as opposed to what it represents. I get emotional every year when one squad sings their alma mater as the other squad stands at attention, as is wonderfully desribed in that article.That is always a special moment, especially when the United States is involved in conflict, and you realize that those young men could be fighting for our country in a matter of weeks.
I'm not a military type, and I don't know anyone who attended either West Point or Annapolis. I just respect the hell out of those kids, and I respect the rivalry.
In The Zone
Footballguy
I've been checking in on this thread for a few days and I can't believe that S.Carolina -Clemson hasn't been mentioned once. There has been 102 games played between these 2 schools dating back to 1896. Much like Alabama-Auburn, these are the only 2 major schools in the state and no professional teams(although Charlotte is right across the border and the Panthers supposedly represent both states). I am biased since I live this rivalry every day of the year. Alot of families are split on this rivalry in this state. Believe me on this. My wife's entire family are diehard Clemson fans and breakfast on Christmas morning is always interesting at the inlaw's house(especially this past Christmas). This rivalry has just as much history as any in college football( as well as all athletics). As a matter of fact, one of my Christmas presents this year was a DVD called "Bragging Rites" which is a movie on the football rivalry between the 2 schools. Rarely are these 2 schools in the National Title hunt but they both have an impact indirectly and both schools have their programs going in the right direction. Both schools play in BCS conferences which is a plus. You have the best fans in America from USC as a part of this rivalry. If you don't think that THE USC has the best fans in the nation then top this. S.Carolina lost 21 straight games from week 2 in 1998 thru the end of 1999. All 21 games were sold out and have been sold out since. How many schools in America could sell out with a losing streak like that? So, in my opinion it's #1 but realistically it should at worst be in the top 10.
On a side note: I would rather watch FSU-Miami over Mich-OSU any day of the week regardless of the records and implications of the game. Maybe it's because I live in the southeast and follow the ACC a little more closely, I don't know. The South just has a better brand of football for me.
On a side note: I would rather watch FSU-Miami over Mich-OSU any day of the week regardless of the records and implications of the game. Maybe it's because I live in the southeast and follow the ACC a little more closely, I don't know. The South just has a better brand of football for me.
Stupid facts.Capella, give ME a break!Columbus is 15th among U.S. cities ranked by city proper population. Miami is nowhere to be found on that list.If you throw in all the surrounding areas (urban agglomeration population), then Miami is 12th with 3,876,380 people. Columbus comes in at #31 with 1,540,157 people -- hardly a small city.Link to population statsI thought you were smarter than that.
Capella
Footballguy
Stupid facts? He basically reaffirmed my argument by saying that Miami and its areas are 2 1/2 times bigger than Columbus.And for some reason, I imagine that the football interests of the greater Miami region are less than Columbus...considering the melting pot there, I'm not sure how you could argue that.But that in itself means nothing in respect to which rivarly is better.Stupid facts.Capella, give ME a break!Columbus is 15th among U.S. cities ranked by city proper population. Miami is nowhere to be found on that list.If you throw in all the surrounding areas (urban agglomeration population), then Miami is 12th with 3,876,380 people. Columbus comes in at #31 with 1,540,157 people -- hardly a small city.Link to population statsI thought you were smarter than that.
Fallerjw
Footballguy
Here's my summarization of the thread:What's the best rivalry in CF? OSU - Michigan hands down I disagree FSU - Miami has been the best game for 15 years OSU - Michigan is the best FSU - Miami is the best The FSU - Miami game means more OSU - Michigan is the best rivalry If rivalry means history and hatred, then maybe it's OSU - Michigan, but if it means the best game for the past 15 years then it's Miami - FSU bunch of arguing about opions OSU- Michigan wins in a landslide through votingnote: interespersed were some other mentions, Army - Navy winning if it was based on emotion I believe
RaiderNation,I agree that the Army - Navy game is a great rivalry. The tradition of the game is second to none. Unfortunately, like Capella was trying to say the signifigance of the game has greatly decreased in the context of "college football" importance. I am from a military family, have family members who attended an academy so I definitely understand the perspective. The Army - Navy game was "The Game" back in the day because Army and Navy were always in the hunt for national titles. However, I have a tough time saying it is the best, due to the fact that it really has lost a lot of its significance. Traditionwise, it is probably the best of the rivalries, though. This is a very fun topic to debate!
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
wow didn't realize this would be so overwhelming... 
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Oh so you are counting the prisons, asylums, and carnies.Capella, give ME a break!Columbus is 15th among U.S. cities ranked by city proper population. Miami is nowhere to be found on that list.If you throw in all the surrounding areas (urban agglomeration population), then Miami is 12th with 3,876,380 people. Columbus comes in at #31 with 1,540,157 people -- hardly a small city.Link to population statsI thought you were smarter than that.
I see, yeah those numbers stack up.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
interesting that people keep acting like the OSu-Michigan game has been insignificant for the last 15 years...
