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[skinsrule05]

I did a search and didn't see this years discussion up yet.

My league did our draft position drawing last night. I get first choice of what draft position I want. I was thinking about taking #2. I am somewhat indifferent between Foster and Rice and I don't like being pinned at the end. At least with the 2nd pick I can mess with one guy. What is your favorite spot to draft from this year?

 

[steelcityman]

I few weeks ago I would have said 5, cause IMO there are 5 guys I "WANT", Foster, Rice, McCoy, Calvin or Rodgers. If I had the 6th pick I wouldnt know what to do. But in our league you cannot win a championship w/out a top QB(last year I had Stafford and won it all). So, in theory, 6, 7, 8, 9 could be Stafford, Cam, Brees, Brady(in any order). Then at that point coming back the next round, plenty of RB or WR will be there.

But, I still dont know, and this year, might not care as much as years past, esp those years you had to get an elite RB.

 

[Short Corner]

I did a search and didn't see this years discussion up yet. My league did our draft position drawing last night. I get first choice of what draft position I want. I was thinking about taking #2. I am somewhat indifferent between Foster and Rice and I don't like being pinned at the end. At least with the 2nd pick I can mess with one guy. What is your favorite spot to draft from this year?

We do our KDS draw on Sunday.

 

[Vykng]

I got the 6th draw in our 12 team. Standard scoring, 6pts per all TD.

If Rice, Foster, McCoy, Rodgers and Megatron are gone then my choice is easy, Brees. But if anyone of the previous mentioned are still there then it's tough. I like it, but I would have rather had around the 8th spot.

 

[rizzler]

12 of 12.

Brees+Graham

Brady+Graham

Forte+Graham

DMC+Graham

etc etc

 

[-jb-]

3

 

[Pip's Invitation]

There are only three stud RBs with no downside: Foster, Rice, McCoy. Given the prevalence of RBBC and the issues that the other RB1s have, I think it's a huge advantage to have one of those guys -- and I value them about equally. Therefore in my mind, the best slot is #3.

 

[Sinn Fein]

4

 

[Buck Stop]

Is 1 really that bad? Get your choice for that 1st pick, and then back to back in the 2nd/3rd. Me likey

 

[bagger]

3

i have 3 this year and the more i have mocked it the more i would rather have no other slot.get a top 3 rb, and then being a couple off the turn allows for some value plays based on what 1 and 2 have done in the draft.

 

[Yenrub]

What draft spots have you been successful from in the past?

What draft spots have been successful in your league in the past?

I know that success can mean different things to different people so let’s just say success equals playoff spot.

5 of the 12 teams make the playoffs in my league. From 2004-2011(8 seasons) here are the # of playoff appearances by 1st round draft position. (I understand there are a lot of other factors such as trades, free agency etc. that contribute but I was curious)

1st 1 of 8

2nd 3 of 8

3rd 3 of 8

4th 1 of 8

5th 3 of 8

6th 6 of 8

7th 7 of 8

8th 1 of 8

9th 3 of 8

10th 2 of 8

11th 5 of 8

12th 4 of 8

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm in the minority perhaps but I feel like you can win from any position. I have players I can build a core with from the front, middle, or back of the draft.

Sure it would be nice to have McCoy, Rice, or Foster to start off with but it's possible that Chris Johnson or others end up in the top spot this year. I would love Calvin but you can double up at WR in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds and get plenty of ammunition. QBs? I can find them in every round and be pretty happy. I don't mind taking one in the 1st, 4th, 7th, there is bargains everywhere.

I like most of the players all at different price points.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm in the minority perhaps but I feel like you can win from any position.

I'm sure you are not in the minority with that statement. However, the question presented here was basically what position would you chose to have if given the choice.We have our spots chosen randomly and I have slot 8 of 12. I'm ok with that and don't feel like my season is lost, but its likely not the slot I would chose if given a choice. For me, I like to be near either turn so that you can see what those that pick between your 2 picks already have in order to make your first pick a little easier.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm in the minority perhaps but I feel like you can win from any position.

I'm sure you are not in the minority with that statement. However, the question presented here was basically what position would you chose to have if given the choice.We have our spots chosen randomly and I have slot 8 of 12. I'm ok with that and don't feel like my season is lost, but its likely not the slot I would chose if given a choice. For me, I like to be near either turn so that you can see what those that pick between your 2 picks already have in order to make your first pick a little easier.

The 1 pick can likely grab RB1-Super back, 2/3 turn can grab something with major upside like Julio Jones/2nd WR1, 4/5 turn can grab QB-Matt Ryan, plus whatever value there is be it a Rb or WR3 to filed out the starters. TE can be had on the 6/7 turn...1 spot is the easiest to build a monster IMO.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I honestly don't care. I just want to be at one of the ends 1-4 or 9-12 for two reasons

1. Easier to predict runs and who you might be able to pick with the second of your two picks.

2. This reason is underrated in my opinion. It is less stressful. You get to make two picks and then relax, clear your mind, and reassess the draft for ten minutes or so until it gets back to you

 

[DeaLerZ]

I honestly don't care. I just want to be at one of the ends 1-4 or 9-12 for two reasons

1. Easier to predict runs and who you might be able to pick with the second of your two picks.

2. This reason is underrated in my opinion. It is less stressful. You get to make two picks and then relax, clear your mind, and reassess the draft for ten minutes or so until it gets back to you

I really agree with this assessment, it is so much easier to pick near the ends.. however i find this very interesting below

What draft spots have you been successful from in the past?

What draft spots have been successful in your league in the past?

I know that success can mean different things to different people so let’s just say success equals playoff spot.

5 of the 12 teams make the playoffs in my league. From 2004-2011(8 seasons) here are the # of playoff appearances by 1st round draft position. (I understand there are a lot of other factors such as trades, free agency etc. that contribute but I was curious)

1st 1 of 8

2nd 3 of 8

3rd 3 of 8

4th 1 of 8

5th 3 of 8

6th 6 of 8

7th 7 of 8

8th 1 of 8

9th 3 of 8

10th 2 of 8

11th 5 of 8

12th 4 of 8

That is quite interesting.. 8 years is a pretty good amount of time to see a trend.. of course it still could be completely random.. but it does give you some insight into this matter for sure

 

[Captain Hook]

The range is really any of the first three picks

Unless you don't care about having Foster there are perhaps better picks in the second round with 2 or 3

I would rather have the first pick and know who I am taking and then prepare options for the 2/3 turn

In leagues where there is either 3RR or 1.5 points for TE, 10-12 would be my next choices

Not a big fan of the middle this year (although as always that is where the value falls in subsequent rounds)

 

[Ariakis]

After the top 5 ... unless you are a believer in another RB or the next tier of QB ... I almost think it could be Graham.

Along those lines unless league rules heavily favors something unusual or the format is 3RR then whoever you decide on at 6 other than Mathews would be there at 12 just as likely as be the choice at 6.

So that suggests that 6-12 lose A LOT of value if there is no tier break ... again unless your format favors QB so much that the next tier are still worth a 1st rounder.

I think my order would be 3, 2, 1 and then probably 4 then 5 ... then 6/12 about even then 11, 10, 9, 8, 7.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Auction imo

 

[Instinctive]

I honestly don't care. I just want to be at one of the ends 1-4 or 9-12 for two reasons1. Easier to predict runs and who you might be able to pick with the second of your two picks. 2. This reason is underrated in my opinion. It is less stressful. You get to make two picks and then relax, clear your mind, and reassess the draft for ten minutes or so until it gets back to you

It also keeps you from playing the "value drops" game. When you're on the end, you HAVE to grab a guy you want with an ADP in the next 3 rounds. It forces you not to get cute and expect a guy to fall 6 more picks or something.

 

[coolnerd]

Auction imo

Why do you auction guys do this?

 

[cheatsheetwarroom]

I've always said that the best draft position is the last position of the 1st-tier RBs. If there are 4 Tier-1 RBs, then the optimal position is #4. This gives you a Tier-1 RB and the highest draft pick in Round 2 of those who grabbed a Tier 1-RB.

This year, depending on the status of MJD, the best position may be #3 or #4.

 

[Manster]

Auction imo

Why do you auction guys do this?

They think auction is the best/only way to do it. It is kind of annoying to be constantly reminded that auctions are far superior to lame ol' drafting. Although I've heard drafting is for noobs.In the mocks I've done(not many yet), it seems that at the 1/2 turn there are a lot of things being tried. The RB's available have a lot of questions. Theres the Graham/Gronk thing. Maybe Brady/Brees. Megatron will be gone and is head and shoulders above any other WR right now. Talent + situation.

Im a big believer in trying to land an elite guy at each position, vs. waiting on positions. Sometimes you have to wait, every draft is different. If you are one of the first picking, you grab one of the few stud RBs, and see what comes around. After the stud RB's are gone, its Megatron, the top few QB's, MJD, CJ, Graham/Gronk or take a chance with guys like DMC/Murray. Thens theres your leagues scoring. For instance, I'm condsidering Graham/Welker or Graham/Brady or CJ/Graham or ????, if drafting at the end of a 12 teamer (.5rb 1wr 1.5te)ppr. I dunno, gotta do more mocking.

 

[bonesman]

I like 4... especially if Rodgers goes before I pick there.

I also agree with the people not wanting to be anywhere near the middle because it makes projecting who'll still be around for your comeback pick more difficult. 5-6-7-8 are def my least preferred picks.

 

[Unclegut]

It all depends on the scoring...this year in a league with 4pts per passing TD I think pick #3 is a great spot to be in...you get to make the easiest choice in the 1st round getting Foster, Rice or McCoy and then are sitting in a great spot in rounds 2 and 3 to get a top WR, a 2nd RB, or possibly Graham or Gronk

 

[FF Ninja]

I like the middle so you don't have to reach too much. Drafting 16th in Anarchy 4 has cost me both Lloyd and Hillis. I'll reach for a guy I like, but I'd have had to take Lloyd at 3.16/4.01 and Hillis at 5.16/6.01 which seems like great value but not in this league (ppr 0-RB, 1-WR, 2-TE and 6 pt/pass TD with team QBs). I think Lloyd went 5.14 and Hillis went 7.07 so that's how much I'd have to have reached for them. Most people just focus on the top 2 picks when determining which position they'd prefer, but I find that when you take the whole draft into account the middle picks are the way to go. If you're really worried about the first two picks, this year you could pretty easily end up with Mathews/AJ in a 12 team or Calvin/Lynch. Not shabby.

 

[Deamon]

Is no one putting Mathews up as the obvious pick at 6? Everyone seems to be torn outside of the top 5. If I had pick 6, I'd be extatic with Mathews.

 

[chickensoup]

Obviously it's going to depend on scoring/starting requirements/league size.

For a standard 4pt passing, 6 pt rushing receiving, with either no PPR or the same PPR for everyone, I think being outside the top 3 is a noticeable disadvantage and of those 3 I'd want the third pick.

Outside the top 3 I just don't feel like there is a "safe" pick. Noone can say with any kind of certainty who outside the big 3 is likelyto be a top 5 RB. I can't think of a time when there were so many questions heading into the year.

I kinda wish upside down drafting hadn't become as popular as it has in some places. I used to feel comfortable at the 12/13 turn knowing I could likely get 2 stud productive WR. Now you can get maybe Fitz and Roddy still but because Gronk and graham and calvin are ranked so highly and QB are taken so highly, you are in competition with middle RB picks that used to be values with at least 4 or 5 people that it might not even be possible to do anymore.

 

[Short Corner]

I did a search and didn't see this years discussion up yet. My league did our draft position drawing last night. I get first choice of what draft position I want. I was thinking about taking #2. I am somewhat indifferent between Foster and Rice and I don't like being pinned at the end. At least with the 2nd pick I can mess with one guy. What is your favorite spot to draft from this year?

We do our KDS draw on Sunday.

Oddly enough, I got first dibs and took the 3rd pick to grab the last of the elite RBs. First TE generally goes at 3.12 in our league so I may be making some moves.

 

[renesauz]

I've always preferred the middle slots, because it's a lot harder to get screwed by any runs. Plus, you don't wait as long betwen picks, so you don't often get forced to reach on a player you like or watch him come off the board 16 picks later (right in front of you).

That said, in leagues where trading draft picks is easy, the top slots are, in theory, more valuable. If multiple trades are possible, I'll take a top 2 spot. If trades aren't...give me the middle.

 

[Ariakis]

Is no one putting Mathews up as the obvious pick at 6? Everyone seems to be torn outside of the top 5. If I had pick 6, I'd be extatic with Mathews.

I can see it ... but if you pick 3rd and take the last of the "big 3" and pick just a few spots later you don't take the risk that Matthews doesn't actually take the next step. Is he really that much ahead of Forte, CJ1200, or DMC? At this point I think my mid round draft slot plan would be to take a TE or Calvin and see which RB fell to my 2nd round. If no RB that I love is still there in the 2nd then a top QB is likely unclaimed or even the 2nd TE if you have a flex (not a WR spot IMO). That could change depending on what I know of draft tendancies and league format where maybe getting Matthews AND a guy like DMC would be tempting too. I guess my real plan is that the WR value from Calvin down to maybe the late 3rd round suggests not going WR.

 

[ponchsox]

I'm drafting 10th (12 team PPR) in an MFL money league, here is what I came up with rounds 1-8:

1.10 Ryan Mathews

2.03 Jimmy Graham

3.10 Julio Jones

4.03 Steven Jackson

5.10 Percy Harvin

6.03 Steve Johnson

7.10 Stevan Ridley

8.03 Eli Manning