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[packseasontix]

So after seeing this in another topic someone has claimed they never finished in the bottom half of any fantasy football league. With that said I would to venture if everyone was being honest if you played in any amount of leagues you couldn't go to many seasons without coming in the lower half at least once.

Question to everyone - think anyone could never come in lower half with moderate opponents at least? Also what is the most frustrating season you have went through, lots of injuries or bad performances week after week?

 

[jurb26]

I suppose it's possible to always finish in the top half of your leagues. If that is the case though, I'd say you should branch out and try some more challenging leagues or formats.

I've been doing this for about 15 years and of course I've finished in the bottom half numerous times and even last a few.

If you're only playing in leagues you know you can win, then I'm not sure what the fun is.

 

[DiStefano]

Two years ago. I had the 3rd highest total in points, and went 2-12 in the regular season. Then in the playoffs, I outscored everyone in the first round and everyone in the second round; but of course, was not in the championship round.

The prolate spheroid bounces in funny ways. So yes, I've finished in the bottom half.

 

[3 hour lunch]

Even when people mention missing the playoffs on FBG, there's always a qualifier like leading the league in points, or extreme bad luck. Very rarely do you see anyone admit that they flat out whiffed picks, chose a lineup poorly, etc. I would think even the best fantasy player, in an average league, couldn't finish in the top 6 of a 12 man league more than 80% of the time. Maybe slightly higher in leagues with blind bidding, wildcards based on total points, etc. People act like you can eliminate the luck factor when all you can do is reduce it. In two of the main leagues that I'm in, I've made the playoffs all 4 times in the league that only has 4 playoff teams, and only once in the league that has 6 playoff teams. I don't either necessarily means I'm a fantasy guru or doorknob.

 

[TS Garp]

I suppose it's possible to always finish in the top half of your leagues. If that is the case though, I'd say you should branch out and try some more challenging leagues or formats.I've been doing this for about 15 years and of course I've finished in the bottom half numerous times and even last a few.If you're only playing in leagues you know you can win, then I'm not sure what the fun is.

If you've been playing for any length of time and you've never been in the bottom half, your league is too easy and therefore not challenging and probably not very fun. I've been in the same local league for more than 20 years now. I generally finish in the top half, but I've certainly had my share of bottom half finishes. If you're in a competitive league, it's inevitable.

 

[FF Ninja]

Realistically, all you can do is score points. If you finish top 3 in points every year, you've done your part. H2H would sort itself out if this was baseball, but with only 13 matchups there is too much luck involved for anyone to finish #1 consistently. Anyone who claims otherwise is either a liar or the luckiest fantasy football player alive.

 

[Warrior]

I play in the most difficult leagues and always finish in the top half. Generally in the top 3.

16 weeks is more than enough time for randomness to be factored out and for my superior managerial skills to pull me out of any early-season hole that bad luck has dug me into.

Sorry

 

[DiStefano]

I play in the most difficult leagues and always finish in the top half. Generally in the top 3.16 weeks is more than enough time for randomness to be factored out and for my superior managerial skills to pull me out of any early-season hole that bad luck has dug me into.Sorry

Well, undoubtedly you rank as one of the greatest FF managers ever (if not the greatest), but as a statistician, you flunk.

 

[Vykng]

Since 2003(first year) in money league. Always a Redraft.

03: 4th

04: 6th(lower half)

05: 2nd

06: 5th(half)

07: 6th(lower half)

08: 1st

09: 1st

10: 1st

11: 1st

 

[Da Guru]

FF is a quirky sport. Three times in a 14 team league I have had the top scoring team and best record yet never won the big one. The two times I won I squeaked into the playoffs with the lowest ranked team and won the league.

Trying to figure out what year I was a better manager.

 

[coachbobbyfinstock]

I've been in numerous leagues (Redraft, dynasty, keeper and 'regular' format) and I've never come in lower than second. And that only happened once because I was out being awesome the night before the championship, ended up sleeping at a really hot chick's house, overslept (because we were up very late. wink, wink) and didnt set my lineup.

Quite honestly I am the greatest FF GM ever..

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I've been in numerous leagues (Redraft, dynasty, keeper and 'regular' format) and I've never come in lower than second. And that only happened once because I was out being awesome the night before the championship, ended up sleeping at a really hot chick's house, overslept (because we were up very late. wink, wink) and didnt set my lineup. Quite honestly I am the greatest FF GM ever..

Can't wait to see your comedy tour flame out...

 

[roadkill1292]

I've been in numerous leagues (Redraft, dynasty, keeper and 'regular' format) and I've never come in lower than second. And that only happened once because I was out being awesome the night before the championship, ended up sleeping at a really hot chick's house, overslept (because we were up very late. wink, wink) and didnt set my lineup. Quite honestly I am the greatest FF GM ever..

JohnnyU alias?

 

[amicsta]

The most frustrating season for me may have been last year due to trades i did/didnt make and an uncharacteristic lack of patience. Usually i am patient with my rbs and stash them, but i dropped demarco murray and reggie bush before they got hot. Had lynch too, but i threw him in a trade before he he went off. The cj2k owner offered me him straight up for jackie battle, but it was vetoed (....) and he ended up getting traded elsewhere. I then passed on michael bush and percy harvin for maclin right before they both broke out followed by an 11th hour deal where i traded mjd for fjax right before he got hurt. Im still not over it haha easily my worst year of managing.

 

[MAC_32]

I had a disaster last year on a team that should not have been, first time in years I've not been in the hunt for a playoff spot in any of my non-dyno leagues entering the last regular season week. Post draft

QB - Vick

RB - Ray Rice

RB - Sproles

WR - Nicks

WR - Marshall

TE - Gates

Flex - Jordy

BN - Stafford/Marshawn/Julio Jones

In season pickups - Tebow/Murray/Cruz/Antonio Brown

Finished 11th of 12 with 2nd most points scored.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I had a disaster last year on a team that should not have been, first time in years I've not been in the hunt for a playoff spot in any of my non-dyno leagues entering the last regular season week. Post draftQB - VickRB - Ray RiceRB - SprolesWR - NicksWR - MarshallTE - Gates Flex - JordyBN - Stafford/Marshawn/Julio JonesIn season pickups - Tebow/Murray/Cruz/Antonio BrownFinished 11th of 12 with 2nd most points scored.

wow, that's brutal

 

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16 Team "Money League" Keeper : $250 Buyin ($10 FA Pickups)

6 Teams make Playoffs - 1/2 Seeds Receive Byes

2011: 3rd Place

2010: 2nd Place

2009: 4th Place

2008: 2nd Place

2007: 4th Place

League features 3 local ESPN Radio on-air analysts, 3 FBG subscribers, and 3 "Dead Weight" guys.

10 Team "Office League" Keeper : $120 Buyin : $2 FA Pickups

6 Teams make Playoffs - 1/2 Seeds Receive Byes

2011: 1st Place

2010: 1st Place

2009: 5th Place

2008: 4th Place

2007: 4th Place (12 teams)

2006: 2nd Place (12 teams)

2005: 1st Place - Perfect Season (12 teams)

League features 4 FBG Subscribers and 2 "Dead Weight" guys.

Have Never not finished in the money / Made the Playoffs in either.

Joining another $250 buy-in league similar to the first this year. Drafted for a buddy last year and was invited this year to fill a spot this year.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

pack is taking a passive aggressive slap at me here from another thread....in my two main local leagues that I have been in, I have always finished in the top half of total points scored for the season....even though I had a losing record many years...

 

[MAC_32]

I suppose it's possible to always finish in the top half of your leagues. If that is the case though, I'd say you should branch out and try some more challenging leagues or formats.

I enjoy playing with friends, the live drafts are the best part of this game. I'm in a couple of more competitive dynasty leagues on-line for an added challenge, but personally I enjoy giving my friends the business more than anything.

 

[mdlane]

I play in ~5 leagues every year. Invariably, I finish in the bottom half in one of those. Format is different, setting are different, FF matchups are different. You can beat a lot of teams just by investing more time and energy than they do (researching, trading, evaluating, etc.), but ultimately Fantasy Football is about gambling. And gambling requires an element of luck.

Obviously, you don't say that to your league-mates, but it's true.

ETA: Also, I think it's easier to separate yourself in auction leagues than in snake drafts.

 

[meyerj31]

Do we have a thread for epic, crappy roster moves?

I drafted Gronkowski then dropped him prior to the start of the 2011 season in a non-TE required league (two WR/TE spots) for some crappy WR option that I thought would score more points.

Epic, epic failure.

Then proceeded to lose 4 of my first 5 games by less than 2 points, and finished out of the playoffs by two games. Pretty awesome.

 

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Do we have a thread for epic, crappy roster moves?I drafted Gronkowski then dropped him prior to the start of the 2011 season in a non-TE required league (two WR/TE spots) for some crappy WR option that I thought would score more points. Epic, epic failure.Then proceeded to lose 4 of my first 5 games by less than 2 points, and finished out of the playoffs by two games. Pretty awesome.

a guy in one of my leagues actually dropped Cam Newton in preseason last year and I was lucky enough to snatch him up. Had him in rotation with Stafford and Romo (more stafford than romo of course).

 

[One]

FF is a quirky sport. Three times in a 14 team league I have had the top scoring team and best record yet never won the big one. The two times I won I squeaked into the playoffs with the lowest ranked team and won the league.Trying to figure out what year I was a better manager.

So true.Seems like my best teams are always eliminated in the first round.I've been eliminated by huge games from fantasy behemoths like Tim Hightower and Quentin Ganther.

 

[gandalas]

In my main league, I have been the #2 seed in the playoffs every season except 2010. That season, injuries to Tomy Romo and Kenny Britt led me to a 7-7 record and the #7 seed (6 make playoffs)

2011: 11-3 (#2 Seed)

2010: 7-7 (missed playoffs)

2009: 9-5 (#2 seed)

2008: 9-5 (#2 Seed)

2007: 10-4 (#2 Seed)

As you can see, the league is competitive (9-5 got me #2 seed 2 years), but I lucked out in having a relatively easy division, and despite me asking the leaguemates if they want to do yearly re-alignments, they have always declined.

There is actually one guy who has done even better than I have - He was the #1 seed in 3 of the 5 years.

Total Records through 5 seasons:

Him: 61-17 (.782)

Me: 50-31 (.617)

 

[One]

On another note, I've noticed in my two most competitive leagues, that the champs are usually either feast or famine.

They'll be lower to mid-pack for a string of years, then erupt and win back to back ...and go back to mediocraty afterward

 

[Instinctive]

In redrafts, I have only ever missed the playoffs once. That's across 8 total seasons (I league for a few years, and then that plus two more last season).

The year I missed was my first year playing. I would say that the best guys in the league typically win - in that main league, we have 14 teams and 6 make the playoffs: 4 guys are there pretty much every season, and we had a four year run of me and the same guy trading titles back and forth.

I'm in the "skill can get you to the playoffs, but luck gets you to titles" camp.

In Dynasty? I have finished in the bottom half a lot - but only with teams I took over and rebuilt so far. We'll see if I can keep that up much longer (doubt it).

 

[One]

Someone should come up with a grading system for league difficulty.

Where you get docked points for playing in small leagues with Dad, co-workers and novice FF players.

Of my 6 leagues, only two are tough, the others are a cake walk and of course I'm gonna make playoffs and likely win it every year.

 

[the next level]

Best FF player I ever saw won our league of 14 diehards 6 out of 12 years and made the playoffs every year. And his 'secret' was obvious to everyone - he was the world's greatest ambulance chaser. He pounced very quickly whenever a league member had injury woes. He knew the other team's lineups as well as his own and would work very hard to make a trade. And his deals were always reasonable, but they tended to tilt ever so slightly in his favor. He'd do this all season long, never fall in love with any of his own players, and construct a team built for playoff success year after year. Everyone was wise to his ways, and even tried to collectively conspire not to trade with him. But those arrangements always seemed to fall apart when someone would inevitably be hamstrung by an injury and unable to make a repair deal elsewhere. You couldn't help admire his skill with winning at this game.

 

[Sweet Love]

I've made the playoffs in a pretty competitive league every year except once...that year, my friends had someone else draft for me since I was away, and he drafted in my PPR redraft for me. He never played fantasy football before, but was an ace at fantasy baseball. Apparently, the guy took the time to learn the players and more so, understand the scoring system and stats. I tell you this, because it is important to understand, he did not come in "cold". Unfortunately for me, it was the year after Fitz/Boldin and Breaston each went for 1k+ yards...and in my PPR, he drafted each as my starting 3 WRs. At first, I was livid...couldn't believe someone would be so dumb to do that. The guys independently gave him a hard time (I did not know the guy) and he innocently replied, "well, who else in the league, in a PPR has 3 other 1k receivers on their team?". And you know what, he was dead right...yet, in baseball, you can draft the Dodgers entire outfield and do well, where in football, the 3 receivers eventually cannibalize their each other's stats (for those of you who remember, Boldin was on fire, but hurt a lot and Breaston jumped on the opportunity like no other...1 in a million shot). I really couldn't blame the guy, but frankly, I was dead man walking...everyone knew I was weak and wanted to trade me for Fitz or Boldin at a major discount. I did not fare well that year, but love to tell that story...worth my $125.

 

[Sweet Love]

As a "seasoned" FF player (going on my 16th year), I have found that the leagues where I have finished in the bottom half have been those that are either (1) TD heavy or (2) give huge bonus points for distance TDs. Besides those leagues, I have 15 seasons in a straight PPR or .5 ppr with a standard yardage point system, and have only finished in the bottom half twice...the more transparent the scoring system, the more the cream rises to the top...in a TD heavy league (which most of us believe TDs are the hardest stat to project), I have seen clueless guys grab some random RB who gets 600 yards and 9 TDs and end up in the playoffs...just out of sheer luck.

 

[johnadams]

I used to have a long time money league filled with friends, workmates, etc., that I finished top four every year but one, which I finished in ninth (out of 12) thanks to an epic spate of injuries and more risky than usual deals in hopes of plugging the gaping holes. But I'd never use that league as a benchmark of my managing ability. If you're finishing top spot or top four every year, then it's simply not a competitive league. It's great for the ego, but it's like playing concentration with an Alzheimer's patient. Nothing wrong with it when you're winning money, but you should keep the chest thumping to yourself.

 

[Johnny Blood]

I'm a high-motor type of guy who brings his lunchpail every Sunday. I never miss the playoffs.

 

[3 hour lunch]

A lot of BS in this thread. Is a FCFS waiver redraft, unless you're playing with 11 people carrying a 2010 FF mag, you're going to get miss the playoffs sometimes.

 

[FavreCo]

I'm the greatest FF coach in history, just ask me. 1st inductee into the FFL HOF. Every league I have ever been in, I won the league the 1st year. That's 2 leagues over 20 years for whoever is asking. Awards too numerous to list here.

 

[DropKick]

In dynasty leagues, I usually have (at least on paper) a top team and typically finish quite high. I don't keep track of annual finishes. My teams typically have a good mix of elite players and quality prospects. I trade aggressively and stay on top of things so I usually have a waiver wire edge. Even so, sometimes things don't go your way and you miss the play-offs. I would say 20-25% of the time or once every 4 or 5 years.

In a truly competitive redraft league, I can't see someone finishing top half every year. Too many variables like injury and under performance. And, if you're playing with strong competitors, it just isn't going to happen every year.

 

[VonRomig]

Two terms that do not go together;

"Very competitive league."

"I'm in the playoffs every year." (or worse; 'I'm in the big game, or win most years)

The concept of competitivness is that the rest of the players are as good (or bad) as you. Therefore, each year so many factors are involved in each team's ending result that they would lead to constant turnaround. Even 12 really bad players would find their league competitive. Whereas if a good player joined that same league of losers it would not be so for him.

I am in 3 three-player keeper leagues, and every year all my teams make their playoffs, and only once did I not win at least one championship game. As such I do not think they are competitive, as they are too easy. So I can brag about how many playoffs berths I make, or how many championship years I have, but it's pure ego to say that they are competitive leagues.

If you were the greatest fantasy football player ever, to be in a competitive league means you are playing against the second thru twelfth best players in the world. And even then the conditions of injuries, matchups, over/under performing games, etc would still make the greatest player a winner half the time. Ok maybe a few seasons over half, as he is the best ever.

Also the league fee costs are a meaningless factor for determining a league's competitivness, as there are a lot of guys out there with more money than brains.

What is truly funny are the FBG members in this forum who brag about how great they are, and recite the accomplishments of selective teams of their's... but I have seen (and been told) of how they either; join a league, do a bunch of trading, play a year, then draft rookies, play another year, and quit because they sucked both years OR they join a new start-up have 1 to 3 lousy seasons and quit. Those teams you will never hear about from the FBG member. Those teams they never will mention. Only the teams they have in leagues where everyone else is weak at FF. One guy here is famous for quitting half his teams (the bad ones) each year, claiming financial difficulty, only to join a new group of leagues later... but to listen to him he is the best you will ever see.

So if you want to brag about your skills, let us hear the details of how you made a championship run in a truly competitive league. Whereas, the other players are just as good as you, so you don't make the playoffs each year. Only by doing so-and-so, such-and-such were you able to pull out a superbowl trophy for that season. Listing a bunch of top 5 placements over many years only proves it is not a competitive league for your skill set (whether good, average, or bad).

So in reality what a lot of posters here should be saying is, "Haw, I'm in an easy league(s), racking up the post-season appearances, and stealing their money!"

imho

Von

 

[packseasontix]

pack is taking a passive aggressive slap at me here from another thread....in my two main local leagues that I have been in, I have always finished in the top half of total points scored for the season....even though I had a losing record many years...

Not a shot but you now are saying you have finished in the bottom half of leagues. I just can't buy anyone in really competitive leagues not being in the bottom half of their league at least once or twice.What I would like to do is setup a bragging rights league for those who have rarely if never been in the bottom half. Give true bragging rights On the board

 

[Dez]

The 1st league I ever started was in 1990 I have gone all 22 years never had a losing record it is my 1st goal to win 7 games each year.

My CFL league 15 years never had a losing record.

It can happen I have been very lucky I think to have never had a losing record in those leagues especially my FFL (re-draft) because things can easily go wrong as we know.

I have had many losing seasons in other leagues but those 2 I have not an amazing streak I am proud of.

 

[rizzler]

I still have yet to win a game

 

[netnalp]

22 years in a 14 team league and I've never won it. Last place once, second to last a few times. But usually I either finish in the top 4 or just miss the play offs with a 6-8 or 7-7 record.

The my biggest blunders I recall were in 2003 with the #1 pick I took Ricky Williams over LT2.

That year I also picked up Domanick Davis from the waiver wire but dropped him just before the season because I read good things about Artose Pinner.

2003

Pinner 130 total yards 0TDs

Davis 1382 total yds 8TDs



To make things worse my 2nd round pick was Onterrio Smith.

That team also fielded the starting QB duo of Aaron Brooks & Kelly Holcombe

WRs Moulds, Jerry Porter, Quincy Morgan, Andre Davis.

I must have made some good choices on the waiver wire to have 5 teams finish with worse records, I landed in 9th place.

 

[drater]

In the future, unless half or more of your league members get paid (or pretend to get paid) to write about fantasy football, please don't refer to it as "super competitive".

 

[Herb]

This thread is I must need to subscribe to all of your newsletters.

In my main 12 team, 3 player keeper league, going into its 15th season, I've never won a title. I've led the league in scoring 3 times and missed the playoffs 2 of those 3 years. I've never finished last, and I'm 0-3 in the title game. Made the playoffs 7-8 times. I would say there are 6 guys (me included) that are good players and 2 guys that really don't care much, they just like seeing everyone at the draft.

The thing is, there are only two guys that have won multiple titles (they've met in the last 3 title games), and every year they're both reaching for players in the draft. Sometimes they'll take guys as much as 3-4 ROUNDS ahead of ADP. And while neither of them is what I would consider a shark, they always sparkle in the waiver process. There are at least 3-5 teams every year more active than either of them- they just seem to strike gold with most of their pickups.

I hate them soooo much!!!

Other than that league, I do pretty well and have won 3 titles in 7 total seasons. I just can't crack that one league's nut. And those SOBs let me hear about it. Constantly.

 

[KellysHeroes]

As stated stated, point total during the regular season is the best factor as to who is the best managers in a league IMO. H2H is fluky at times and there are factors such as divisional play, in one league I finished in the top half of pts scored (either #5 or 6, nothing special) however the other 3 teams in my division were also in the top half, I think 2 of them were in the top 3. So I lost all my division games leading my to a record of 4 - 9 giving me the 1.01.

I would say if you at the top of pts scored and constantly in the play-offs then your a good fantasy player.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Two terms that do not go together;

"Very competitive league."

"I'm in the playoffs every year." (or worse; 'I'm in the big game, or win most years)

The concept of competitivness is that the rest of the players are as good (or bad) as you. Therefore, each year so many factors are involved in each team's ending result that they would lead to constant turnaround. Even 12 really bad players would find their league competitive. Whereas if a good player joined that same league of losers it would not be so for him.

I am in 3 three-player keeper leagues, and every year all my teams make their playoffs, and only once did I not win at least one championship game. As such I do not think they are competitive, as they are too easy. So I can brag about how many playoffs berths I make, or how many championship years I have, but it's pure ego to say that they are competitive leagues.

If you were the greatest fantasy football player ever, to be in a competitive league means you are playing against the second thru twelfth best players in the world. And even then the conditions of injuries, matchups, over/under performing games, etc would still make the greatest player a winner half the time. Ok maybe a few seasons over half, as he is the best ever.

Also the league fee costs are a meaningless factor for determining a league's competitivness, as there are a lot of guys out there with more money than brains.

What is truly funny are the FBG members in this forum who brag about how great they are, and recite the accomplishments of selective teams of their's... but I have seen (and been told) of how they either; join a league, do a bunch of trading, play a year, then draft rookies, play another year, and quit because they sucked both years OR they join a new start-up have 1 to 3 lousy seasons and quit. Those teams you will never hear about from the FBG member. Those teams they never will mention. Only the teams they have in leagues where everyone else is weak at FF. One guy here is famous for quitting half his teams (the bad ones) each year, claiming financial difficulty, only to join a new group of leagues later... but to listen to him he is the best you will ever see.

So if you want to brag about your skills, let us hear the details of how you made a championship run in a truly competitive league. Whereas, the other players are just as good as you, so you don't make the playoffs each year. Only by doing so-and-so, such-and-such were you able to pull out a superbowl trophy for that season. Listing a bunch of top 5 placements over many years only proves it is not a competitive league for your skill set (whether good, average, or bad).

So in reality what a lot of posters here should be saying is, "Haw, I'm in an easy league(s), racking up the post-season appearances, and stealing their money!"

imho

Von

I know who this is...

 

[jeremyx13]

I am cracking up at some of the anecdotes on this thread! I find my worst finishes are TD heavy leagues also (don't play them ever now, maybe 10 years ago) and draft only with no transactions (ANARCHY comes to mind) since I can't get rid of injured players which I ALWAYS draft, lol. Over last 15 years or so, I have finished top half/made playoffs easily more than 80% of the time, but probably only played in one really competitive league each season, which I usually have a shot of winning. Most people can't find 12-14 "sharks" in their local setting, so there is no shame in taking money from "guppies" to fund your competitive leagues. It gives you water cooler fodder and bragging rights which is worth a playoff spot in itself. My favorite pasttime is taking over orphan teams and building them up. Took over one team two seasons ago with a horrible roster and high draft pick. Made a couple of trades to get 1-2 semi-studs and ended up winning first season. Was looking forward to last season but league disbanded after commish was killed living in the Phillipines. Adopted two orphans this season. Will let you know how that goes. Later,

J

 

[gandalas]

In the future, unless half or more of your league members get paid (or pretend to get paid) to write about fantasy football, please don't refer to it as "super competitive".

That is funny. Apparently in 2 of my new start-ups this season, there are actually a couple of writers for another Fantasy Website (http://dynastyleaguefootball.com/)

 

[SWC]

one year i forgot that is signed up for a league and i checked after the season when i remember and i had still won it i am that good brohans just kidding sometimes i blow it big time thinknig myself in to making crazy picks like on rookie rbs and stuff but mostly i do all right and consider myself a fantasy football ninja assasin brohanista

 

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Two terms that do not go together;

"Very competitive league."

"I'm in the playoffs every year." (or worse; 'I'm in the big game, or win most years)

The concept of competitivness is that the rest of the players are as good (or bad) as you. Therefore, each year so many factors are involved in each team's ending result that they would lead to constant turnaround. Even 12 really bad players would find their league competitive. Whereas if a good player joined that same league of losers it would not be so for him.

I am in 3 three-player keeper leagues, and every year all my teams make their playoffs, and only once did I not win at least one championship game. As such I do not think they are competitive, as they are too easy. So I can brag about how many playoffs berths I make, or how many championship years I have, but it's pure ego to say that they are competitive leagues.

If you were the greatest fantasy football player ever, to be in a competitive league means you are playing against the second thru twelfth best players in the world. And even then the conditions of injuries, matchups, over/under performing games, etc would still make the greatest player a winner half the time. Ok maybe a few seasons over half, as he is the best ever.

Also the league fee costs are a meaningless factor for determining a league's competitivness, as there are a lot of guys out there with more money than brains.

What is truly funny are the FBG members in this forum who brag about how great they are, and recite the accomplishments of selective teams of their's... but I have seen (and been told) of how they either; join a league, do a bunch of trading, play a year, then draft rookies, play another year, and quit because they sucked both years OR they join a new start-up have 1 to 3 lousy seasons and quit. Those teams you will never hear about from the FBG member. Those teams they never will mention. Only the teams they have in leagues where everyone else is weak at FF. One guy here is famous for quitting half his teams (the bad ones) each year, claiming financial difficulty, only to join a new group of leagues later... but to listen to him he is the best you will ever see.

So if you want to brag about your skills, let us hear the details of how you made a championship run in a truly competitive league. Whereas, the other players are just as good as you, so you don't make the playoffs each year. Only by doing so-and-so, such-and-such were you able to pull out a superbowl trophy for that season. Listing a bunch of top 5 placements over many years only proves it is not a competitive league for your skill set (whether good, average, or bad).

So in reality what a lot of posters here should be saying is, "Haw, I'm in an easy league(s), racking up the post-season appearances, and stealing their money!"

imho

Von

I know who this is...

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Yup. I am LAMO at the posters bragging about finishing in the money every year. They are clearly playing with a bunch of fish. Try playing in a main event FFPC or NFFC league and report back to us in 3 years. I quite certain teh results will be much different.

 

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Yup. I am LAMO at the posters bragging about finishing in the money every year. They are clearly playing with a bunch of fish. Try playing in a main event FFPC or NFFC league and report back to us in 3 years. I quite certain teh results will be much different.

If you could make four figures consistently year in and year out while playing with a bunch of buddies why wouldn't you do it?

From the OP:

So after seeing this in another topic someone has claimed they never finished in the bottom half of any fantasy football league. With that said I would to venture if everyone was being honest if you played in any amount of leagues you couldn't go to many seasons without coming in the lower half at least once.

Question to everyone - think anyone could never come in lower half with moderate opponents at least? Also what is the most frustrating season you have went through, lots of injuries or bad performances week after week?

It wasn't specified that this was only about Pro Leagues. Moderate opponents would seem (to me at least) to consist of people who do a good bit of research, maybe subscribe to a site like this, etc.