Best IDP Position for Points? (1 Viewer)

[mtffl2]

i'm not sure if anyone can find the article or not, but i once read an article that broke down each of the positions and showed which position on the field scored the most points....

obviously with DL, the DE's score the most

with LB's, (if not a stud MLB) the WLB has the best chance

i'm interested in the DB's. which position step up in run support? is it the FS or the SS?

 

[Jene Bramel]

i'm not sure if anyone can find the article or not, but i once read an article that broke down each of the positions and showed which position on the field scored the most points....

obviously with DL, the DE's score the most

with LB's, (if not a stud MLB) the WLB has the best chance

i'm interested in the DB's. which position step up in run support? is it the FS or the SS?

4-3 DE > 4-3 UT > 3-4 DE > NT4-3 MLB = 3-4 LILB > 4-3 WLB > 3-4 RILB > 4-3 SLB = 3-4 OLB

SS > FS (4-3 slightly favored over 3-4)

Tampa-2 CB > Traditional CB

That's pretty oversimplified though, as you'll find exceptions for any number of reasons (scheme/talent/opportunity).

You're probably thinking of Norton's Breaking Down NFL Defenses article which was last published in 2005. You'll also find some good ideas from the board in the pinned FAQ thread at the top of this Forum.

 

[mtffl2]

that was the article.... thanks for giving me the link

 

[Tick]

SS > FS (4-3 slightly favored over 3-4)

I'd expand that to SS > FS > Cover2 SS > Cover2 FS. There are enough C2 defenses out there now to make it worth breaking those out.

 

[Jene Bramel]

SS > FS (4-3 slightly favored over 3-4)

I'd expand that to SS > FS > Cover2 SS > Cover2 FS. There are enough C2 defenses out there now to make it worth breaking those out.

True it's worth making the distinction, except I'm not convinced that a traditional 3-4 safety is better than a Tampa-2 SS.

 

[Tick]

Yeah, I'm not either. How's SS > FS = C2SS > C2FS?

 

[mtffl2]

let me get this straight.... the cover 2 FS is the best position for points in IDP?

 

[Jene Bramel]

Yeah, I'm not either. How's SS > FS = C2SS > C2FS?

Me likey that better. We'll have a much better sample size in a couple of seasons after Whitner and Bullocks and Manning settle into each role.

let me get this straight.... the cover 2 FS is the best position for points in IDP?

You're reading it the wrong way I think.SS greater than FS equal to C2SS greater than C2FS.

 

[mtffl2]

i sure was.... i'm in finace also, so the greater than sign should be easy for me to figure out....

 

[Tick]

The alligator is very hungry - his mouth is always trying to eat the bigger number.

 

[mtffl2]

so... it's like the game pac-man.

 

[JayMan]

so... it's like the game pac-man.

PacMan Jones?... you don't want to play that game...(sorry - had to say it)

 

[alg]

i'm not sure if anyone can find the article or not, but i once read an article that broke down each of the positions and showed which position on the field scored the most points....

obviously with DL, the DE's score the most

with LB's, (if not a stud MLB) the WLB has the best chance

i'm interested in the DB's. which position step up in run support? is it the FS or the SS?

4-3 DE > 4-3 UT > 3-4 DE > NT4-3 MLB = 3-4 LILB > 4-3 WLB > 3-4 RILB > 4-3 SLB = 3-4 OLB

SS > FS (4-3 slightly favored over 3-4)

Tampa-2 CB > Traditional CB

That's pretty oversimplified though, as you'll find exceptions for any number of reasons (scheme/talent/opportunity).

You're probably thinking of Norton's Breaking Down NFL Defenses article which was last published in 2005. You'll also find some good ideas from the board in the pinned FAQ thread at the top of this Forum.

Should this not read:4-3 MLB = C2 WLB > 3-4 LILB > 4-3 WLB > 3-4 RILB > 4-3 SLB = 3-4 OLB

 

[Jene Bramel]

i'm not sure if anyone can find the article or not, but i once read an article that broke down each of the positions and showed which position on the field scored the most points....

obviously with DL, the DE's score the most

with LB's, (if not a stud MLB) the WLB has the best chance

i'm interested in the DB's. which position step up in run support? is it the FS or the SS?

4-3 DE > 4-3 UT > 3-4 DE > NT4-3 MLB = 3-4 LILB > 4-3 WLB > 3-4 RILB > 4-3 SLB = 3-4 OLB

SS > FS (4-3 slightly favored over 3-4)

Tampa-2 CB > Traditional CB

That's pretty oversimplified though, as you'll find exceptions for any number of reasons (scheme/talent/opportunity).

You're probably thinking of Norton's Breaking Down NFL Defenses article which was last published in 2005. You'll also find some good ideas from the board in the pinned FAQ thread at the top of this Forum.

Should this not read:4-3 MLB = C2 WLB > 3-4 LILB > 4-3 WLB > 3-4 RILB > 4-3 SLB = 3-4 OLB

In certain cases, but that's why I noted it to be over-simplified. I wouldn't draft a T2 WLB like Cato June over 3-4 LILBs like Donnie Edwards or Jonathan Vilma but I'd draft a T2 WLB like Derrick Brooks over a 3-4 ILB like James Farrior and a bunch of lesser 4-3 MLBs like Lemar Marshall. But, taking variations in the 3-4/4-3 scheme out of the mix I think the original line holds up pretty well.And I'm still not convinced that a T2 WLB is clearly better than a T2 MLB in most instances. It may be that Derrick Brooks (not unlike Keith Bulluck) is just so good that he was able to make up the usual difference between the MLB and WLB and then overshoot it significantly. It may just be that the values are tweaked just enough to make the two positions equal in value (Briggs-Urlacher, Brackett-June, 05 Brooks-Quarles).

I'd use the above "guideline" as a rough primer to start your research into understanding why the line should look the way it does. But if you use it to draft Ryan Nece over Shawne Merriman or Keith Adams over Marcus Washington or Jay Foreman over Keith Bulluck, you defeat the purpose of the exercise altogether and may as well not use it at all.

Disclaimer: the "you" in the above note does not = alg. alg's point is a valid one and an important challenge to making general rules like this.

 

[mtffl2]

good stuff, GENE.... i like reading your posts