pretty sure it’s been done. I think we’ve done everything at this point.This could be a draft
That is the first time I have heard a song by the Beach Bums. Local children have praised their singing abilities so I had always assumed it must be quite a delightful group of troubadours. Now, I know for sure all hope in the world is lost. Not to be crude but they can not sing “a lick”.
So much for Brian being a genius.
It is true that Paul McCartney has few peers when it comes to his resume in regards to success and songwriting, but to push back a little, his greatness comes from his songwriting, not his playing. Sure, he can play a bunch of different instruments, but you can look at every single one of those instruments and find dozens of players better on each one, even bass guitar, his main instrument.Any Mt. Rushmore of musicians that doesn't include Paul McCartney is flawed. One of the greatest songwriters of all time, fantastic singer with extraordinary range in his prime and the guy can play virtually any instrument and play it well. Also an excellent producer.
Even if you're not a fan there are very few artists that have that kind of resume.
What do you mean by "better?" Very few, if any better bass players in the history of rock and roll. And chances are whoever you cite was heavily influenced by Paul's playing.It is true that Paul McCartney has few peers when it comes to his resume in regards to success and songwriting, but to push back a little, his greatness comes from his songwriting, not his playing. Sure, he can play a bunch of different instruments, but you can look at every single one of those instruments and find dozens of players better on each one, even bass guitar, his main instrument.
As to question posed in this thread, it seems like another "name your favorite bands/artists" thread rather than listing the best actual musicians.
I don’t hate it but I don’t think he is totally necessary. Miles Davis, Mozart, Beethoven, Aretha. There’s a top 4 that one can easily argue Paul can’t F with.Any Mt. Rushmore of musicians that doesn't include Paul McCartney is flawed. One of the greatest songwriters of all time, fantastic singer with extraordinary range in his prime and the guy can play virtually any instrument and play it well. Also an excellent producer.
Even if you're not a fan there are very few artists that have that kind of resume.
Was Aretha a great musician?I don’t hate it but I don’t think he is totally necessary. Miles Davis, Mozart, Beethoven, Aretha. There’s a top 4 that one can easily argue Paul can’t F with.
Not only that, I doubt that many bass players were as good as Paul on guitar, piano and drums.What do you mean by "better?" Very few, if any better bass players in the history of rock and roll. And chances are whoever you cite was heavily influenced by Paul's playing.
I don't know what the OP meant by best musician.Does singing not count?
Songwriting definitely. I am not so sure about his musicianship and his singing, while certainly unique, is clearly not great.Mozart, Prince, Beethoven and Dylan
If she had been a man, she might have had a Stevie Wonder-type career. Excellent piano player and tremendous arranger. She was not only not encouraged, but specifically discouraged in her songwriting, self-producing effortsWas Aretha a great musician?
I can think of several that are better than him. Flea, Chris Squire, and Geddy Lee.What do you mean by "better?" Very few, if any better bass players in the history of rock and roll. And chances are whoever you cite was heavily influenced by Paul's playing.It is true that Paul McCartney has few peers when it comes to his resume in regards to success and songwriting, but to push back a little, his greatness comes from his songwriting, not his playing. Sure, he can play a bunch of different instruments, but you can look at every single one of those instruments and find dozens of players better on each one, even bass guitar, his main instrument.
As to question posed in this thread, it seems like another "name your favorite bands/artists" thread rather than listing the best actual musicians.
Hey, Geddy played keyboards with his feet, while singing and playing bass.Not only that, I doubt that many bass players were as good as Paul on guitar, piano and drums.
You call that singingI can think of several that are better than him. Flea, Chris Squire, and Geddy Lee.
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Yep. Aretha on a piano was about as good as it gets. Anytime a recording session was going nowhere, she'd sit at the keys and bring it all back into focus. As an arranger - she was a lot like Elvis, in that she knew what she wanted a record to sound like but had to throw a tantrum to make it happen. Her records still sound great, 50 years later.If she had been a man, she might have had a Stevie Wonder-type career. Excellent piano player and tremendous arranger. She was not only not encouraged, but specifically discouraged in her songwriting, self-producing efforts
No Gershwin?If I were doing a "Founding Fathers" Mt Rushmore of American music (keeping it to the last 100 years and how it shaped popular music) it would be:
Louis Armstrong
Robert Johnson
Hank Williams
Duke Ellington
Honorable mention to Mahalia Jackson, the Carter Family, Son House, and Merle Travis.
I'm thinking more in a rock and roll vein. But your question shows why this exercise it pointless.No Gershwin?
She was one of the very few people who could factor emotional criteria into her arrangements - that takes genius AND chops. people seldom recognize that work was done before she ever opened her mouth, which is what makes me think she wouldve have been a first-rate songwriter freed from Motown tropesYep. Aretha on a piano was about as good as it gets. Anytime a recording session was going nowhere, she'd sit at the keys and bring it all back into focus. As an arranger - she was a lot like Elvis, in that she knew what she wanted a record to sound like but had to throw a tantrum to make it happen. Her records still sound great, 50 years later.
Speaking of Stevie Wonder, he's one of the best drummers in rock history and that was his 4th best instrument.
Otis Redding was getting there, too, until that plane went down.She was one of the very few people who could factor emotional criteria into her arrangements - that takes genius AND chops. people seldom recognize that work was done before she ever opened her mouth, which is what makes me think she wouldve have been a first-rate songwriter freed from Motown tropes
first place i send anybody asks me about songwritingFor me personally, Elvis Costello would be up there
Towards the end, it wasn't that great. Was starting to put together my own list, and he was on for bass, but not for vocals.You call that singingI can think of several that are better than him. Flea, Chris Squire, and Geddy Lee.
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Wasnt he replaced on vocals by a weedwhacker for a time?Towards the end, it wasn't that great. Was starting to put together my own list, and he was on for bass, but not for vocals.
That desert island has been consumed by the rising oceans.pretty sure it’s been done. I think we’ve done everything at this point.This could be a draft
Are those rising oceans filled with vengeance or is this just a tide in/tide out/groundswell thing.That desert island has been consumed by the rising oceans.