Biggest 08 Disappointment Thus Far? (1 Viewer)

[sad pandas]

Rudi Johnson

Javon Walker

Frank Gore

Shaun Alexander

Marques Colston

My vote is for Frank Gore...the guy was a top 5 pick in almost every draft and has done dog poop so far this year...anyone want to put their two cents in?

Rudi is a close second...he was a late 1st rounder, but even before he got hurt he was doing nothing.

Javon Walker was having a strong year, but I forgot, I drafted him so of course he got hurt (same thing happened two years ago...I'm done w/ him)

SA, not so disappointing b/c he was a risk in my mind coming off last years injury

Colston, also not as disappointing b/c he was pretty much unproven...hes got the sophmore jinx

Anyone else to add to the list?

 

[-OZ-]

Biggest 08 Disappointment Thus Far?

Predictions do start early around here.

 

[MCguidance]

Rudi JohnsonJavon WalkerFrank GoreShaun AlexanderMarques ColstonMy vote is for Frank Gore...the guy was a top 5 pick in almost every draft and has done dog poop so far this year...anyone want to put their two cents in?Rudi is a close second...he was a late 1st rounder, but even before he got hurt he was doing nothing.Javon Walker was having a strong year, but I forgot, I drafted him so of course he got hurt (same thing happened two years ago...I'm done w/ him)SA, not so disappointing b/c he was a risk in my mind coming off last years injuryColston, also not as disappointing b/c he was pretty much unproven...hes got the sophmore jinxAnyone else to add to the list?

Well if you are including injured players like Walker, then bulger or sjax...vince young comes to mind too..ugh having two of those players indicates why i am bad

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Steven Jackson, Marc Bulger and Santana Moss were the first three that came to mind

 

[-OZ-]

Most disapointing was SJax until his injury.

 

[-OZ-]

Well if you are including injured players like Walker, then bulger or sjax...vince young comes to mind too..ugh having two of those players indicates why i am bad

Call me skeptical, but as much as I like VY, I won't consider any sophomore to be the biggest disappointment, you have to expect some struggle, especially without any WRs. I was too high on VY considering all that, for this year - of course, that's probably because I expected Troupe to play.

 

[MCguidance]

Most disapointing was SJax until his injury.

But how can you say that with his week 3 stats? He had 135 total yards?? He is only really a disapointment because of the injury.

 

[sad pandas]

Most disapointing was SJax until his injury.

yeah i forgot about him...i still think gore was worse though...Javon Walker is more of a venting statement for me...for me...for some reason my wife doesn't really want to hear it

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

also, let's throw the Maroney name out there

 

[SaintArnold]

Rudi JohnsonJavon WalkerFrank GoreShaun AlexanderMarques ColstonMy vote is for Frank Gore...the guy was a top 5 pick in almost every draft and has done dog poop so far this year...anyone want to put their two cents in?Rudi is a close second...he was a late 1st rounder, but even before he got hurt he was doing nothing.Javon Walker was having a strong year, but I forgot, I drafted him so of course he got hurt (same thing happened two years ago...I'm done w/ him)SA, not so disappointing b/c he was a risk in my mind coming off last years injuryColston, also not as disappointing b/c he was pretty much unproven...hes got the sophmore jinxAnyone else to add to the list?

Larry Johnson?Colston doesn't really belong on this list IMO, so far his season hasn't been *terrible* and he was presumably drafted after everyone else you listed. Maybe you could list "The Saints" in general.

 

[sad pandas]

Rudi JohnsonJavon WalkerFrank GoreShaun AlexanderMarques ColstonMy vote is for Frank Gore...the guy was a top 5 pick in almost every draft and has done dog poop so far this year...anyone want to put their two cents in?Rudi is a close second...he was a late 1st rounder, but even before he got hurt he was doing nothing.Javon Walker was having a strong year, but I forgot, I drafted him so of course he got hurt (same thing happened two years ago...I'm done w/ him)SA, not so disappointing b/c he was a risk in my mind coming off last years injuryColston, also not as disappointing b/c he was pretty much unproven...hes got the sophmore jinxAnyone else to add to the list?

Larry Johnson?Colston doesn't really belong on this list IMO, so far his season hasn't been *terrible* and he was presumably drafted after everyone else you listed. Maybe you could list "The Saints" in general.

I don't really count LJ...hes currently the 7th ranked rb in my leaque and although I expected more, its not that much of a drop off...figure he was drafted between 2 and 5 in most leagues.

 

[timschochet]

For me, it is definitely the QB. I started with Donovan McNabb. Then, not satisfied with his up and down play (mostly down), I traded him away for a RB, figuring I could pick up some guy off the waiver wire. Two weeks ago I took Warner, at the recommendation of several people here. He lasted less than a quarter, and I lost because of him.

Because I had other good players, what I needed, I thought, wasn't a great QB, just someone steady and consistent. So last week I picked up David Garrard. This time, my problems were solved for 3/4s of the 1st half; then I lost again.

Now in total frustration I have traded away ADP for Peyton Manning. Watch him get hurt for the first time in his career...

 

[Slow White Bronco]

Drew Brees

 

[Onions]

 

[Ghost Rider]

For '07, it has gotta be Lee Evans. Through six games, he is averaging 2.8 catches and 35 yards PER GAME, and has yet to score. Considering he was a top 10-15 WR in most drafts, it has to be him. At least with injured players, you could start someone else who might be productive, as opposed to having dead weight in your lineup every week.

 

[MCguidance]

For me, it is definitely the QB. I started with Donovan McNabb. Then, not satisfied with his up and down play (mostly down), I traded him away for a RB, figuring I could pick up some guy off the waiver wire. Two weeks ago I took Warner, at the recommendation of several people here. He lasted less than a quarter, and I lost because of him.Because I had other good players, what I needed, I thought, wasn't a great QB, just someone steady and consistent. So last week I picked up David Garrard. This time, my problems were solved for 3/4s of the 1st half; then I lost again.Now in total frustration I have traded away ADP for Peyton Manning. Watch him get hurt for the first time in his career...

You could have gotten something else for ADP! Why not trade him for the like a favre and a good but not great back?? Man, I think you sold out. But Peyton is legit, hope you had depth at RB.

 

[greggorymac]

Rudi JohnsonJavon WalkerFrank GoreShaun AlexanderMarques ColstonMy vote is for Frank Gore...the guy was a top 5 pick in almost every draft and has done dog poop so far this year...anyone want to put their two cents in?Rudi is a close second...he was a late 1st rounder, but even before he got hurt he was doing nothing.Javon Walker was having a strong year, but I forgot, I drafted him so of course he got hurt (same thing happened two years ago...I'm done w/ him)SA, not so disappointing b/c he was a risk in my mind coming off last years injuryColston, also not as disappointing b/c he was pretty much unproven...hes got the sophmore jinxAnyone else to add to the list?

I don't think you can be disappointed with players that have been injured. Injuries are a freak deal. I would have to say hands down, the most disappointing performance thus far has been Drew Brees.

 

[BBRULE]

Since any player can be hurt on any given play I try to leave players who lose games to injury out of my most dissapointing lists. That said:

QB: McNabb/Brees

RB: Gore/Alexander

WR: Evans/R.Williams(other than weeks 2 and 3 he has been invisable)

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

For '07, it has gotta be Lee Evans. Through six games, he is averaging 2.8 catches and 35 yards PER GAME, and has yet to score. Considering he was a top 10-15 WR in most drafts, it has to be him. At least with injured players, you could start someone else who might be productive, as opposed to having dead weight in your lineup every week.

That is my pick as well. Got him in 2 money leagues. Have not dropped him, as I hope he has his pattened big second half of the season.

 

[Native]

Drew Brees

Yep. Brees has been a disaster in a year when QB's are kicking some ####.

 

[LionsFan78]

Mine...

QB - Marc Bulger. Even Brees has started to show signs of life. And at least they're 2-4!

RB - Rudi Johnson. I could obviously list several guys here, but come on!!!! This guy used to be as safe as they come for first round RB's.

TE - Vernon Davis. I have seen him taken as the 2nd TE off the board in many drafts. He's on many waiver wires now.

WR - Walker and Evans. No surprises here. I thought they were a lock to finish top 10 this year.

D/ST - Miami. Seemed to be the consensus 5th overall D/ST taken, and they're GOD-AWFUL right now.

K - Olindo Mare. Who wouldn't want the kicker attached to 2006's most potent offense. Ouch.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

For '07, it has gotta be Lee Evans. Through six games, he is averaging 2.8 catches and 35 yards PER GAME, and has yet to score. Considering he was a top 10-15 WR in most drafts, it has to be him. At least with injured players, you could start someone else who might be productive, as opposed to having dead weight in your lineup every week.

Exactly what I was going to say. And I'm a Bills fan so it hurts twice as much.

 

[mad sweeney]

Thus far, all the Rams and Saints and most of the players drafted in round 1.

 

[gman8343]

Mark Clayton is right on the heels of Lee Evans IMO.

 

[Capella]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.

Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

True, but think of this way...had you not taken Gore at whatever spot you got him at, it is very possible that the RB you would have took instead has struggled, too. Meanwhile, where Evans went in most drafts, you likely passed up a bunch of similarly ranked WRs who have been great so far.

 

[DarabZarrabi]

tom brady?

 

[BucFan40]

I had to cringe when i read this post because I have almost all of these players between 2 of my leagues. As an owner of SA, Rudi, Brees, Evans, and Clayton, I'd have to say Brees is the biggest bust. i know he's starting to turn it around but he's been great the past 2 years, so it's not like you were taking a gamble on him like you were last year. not to mention NO looked great in preseason. Same players, same coach.. there is no excuse.

 

[OCC]

Larry Johnson?Colston doesn't really belong on this list IMO, so far his season hasn't been *terrible* and he was presumably drafted after everyone else you listed. Maybe you could list "The Saints" in general.

Do you follow football at all? LJ is a top 10 RB in most scoring formats. And he's the biggest disappointment for 2008? You gotta be kidding me.Then you defend Colston. He's WR40 in most leagues, and was drafted as a top 15 WR. Most people expected Colston to improve on his rookie year, not disappear.Given the fact LJ missed all of training camp, he's rounding into form about when you'd expect.

 

[PahtyTom]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

Gore has been awful? Really? He's on pace for about 1400 total yards and 8 TDs and is averaging 4.0 ypc. That's with him being "awful". So, if he goes from being "awful" to "decent" I guess he'll almost be able to justify his selection? Obviously he's not what we expected with a top 5 pick, but to say he is awful or the biggest bust this year is silly.

 

[DarkManX]

Santana Moss, dude has killed me in 1 league!

Funny thing was he was involved in a deal to get RID of Lee Evans.

 

[guitarmonkiy]

tom brady?

biggest disappointment so far for me was passing on him.

 

[5Rings]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

Gore has been awful? Really? He's on pace for about 1400 total yards and 8 TDs and is averaging 4.0 ypc. That's with him being "awful". So, if he goes from being "awful" to "decent" I guess he'll almost be able to justify his selection? Obviously he's not what we expected with a top 5 pick, but to say he is awful or the biggest bust this year is silly.

In Z scoring, Gore is 16 (adp 5). Rudi is 47 (adp 9). Maroney is 51 (adp12). SJax is 56 (adp 2).

 

[shakeybarn]

One, ya shoulda put in with an actual poll.

Regardless, biggest would have to be the early picks. Not Colston, Lee Evans, Bulger, ...Period. ..but instead where you expect the gimme the points.... the 225, 250, and for some 300 or 250 points.

SJax, Gore, Shaun are neck and neck if you ask me.

Maroney has been a biggest dissappointment, moreover it's been the weekly "is he in or is he out" decisions. Rudi has been a known out..... but a dissappointment.

Bush hasn't lived up to the 1st round , or even early 2nd round hope, but at least he's serviceable.

LT2... yeah he's high up in the rankings.. but in my 3 leagues.. the LT owners are struggling.

LT2 won ya last week. But given the amount of cap room you spent on him... where was he week 1, week 2, week 3 , AND week 5.

In this day injury, only an injury should keep the #1 pick from contention, LT is as big a bust as any. Don't freaking give me his total stats, unless you are prepared to compare std dev....and don't chime after this week's game with a banged up Hou at home (or close to)... pull out LT2's stats after the following games with:

@MIN - Viking run D at home..................wow.

IND - hell bent after their lost to NWE

@JAC

BAL

@KC

@TEN

Yeah, great... LT2 fattened them stats vs the likes of Oakland.

I'd ship him off after Houston, if you can dupe your league(s) into his first pick value.

 

[Aerial Assault]

I think it's Gore. An absolute teamkiller if you drafted him in the first, probably passing on Addai or even LJ (as I did on one team - - I didn't trust the Chefs, and still don't) in the process. Even worse, while, say, Lee Evans has a history of being a second-half guy (see the current thread on this topic), Gore is looking like a one-year wonder on an absolutely horrific offense without a clue how to advance the ball.

 

[cstu]

For '07, it has gotta be Lee Evans. Through six games, he is averaging 2.8 catches and 35 yards PER GAME, and has yet to score. Considering he was a top 10-15 WR in most drafts, it has to be him. At least with injured players, you could start someone else who might be productive, as opposed to having dead weight in your lineup every week.

Evans directly cost me two games because I started him over Vincent Jackson.

 

[Kyzersosik]

Hands down, L Maroney.

 

[jbz]

Marvin Harrison.

 

[Da Guru]

After 4 weeks Drew Brees and LJ had a "combined " TD total of 1. They are coming around now but many teams that have them are in a big hole..believe me!

Larry Fitz only finding the end zone once despite all the targets.

 

[bigupsetter]

For me, it is definitely the QB. I started with Donovan McNabb. Then, not satisfied with his up and down play (mostly down), I traded him away for a RB, figuring I could pick up some guy off the waiver wire. Two weeks ago I took Warner, at the recommendation of several people here. He lasted less than a quarter, and I lost because of him.Because I had other good players, what I needed, I thought, wasn't a great QB, just someone steady and consistent. So last week I picked up David Garrard. This time, my problems were solved for 3/4s of the 1st half; then I lost again.Now in total frustration I have traded away ADP for Peyton Manning. Watch him get hurt for the first time in his career...

Based on production and adp, Brees has produced far less than McNabb. McNabb was also coming off a severe knee injury and has still been decent.

 

[Banger]

Brees

Gore

Maroney

Colston

Evans

Clayton (not that he cost a lot but I was looking for him to take the next step up)

LT/LJ were disappointing but not surprising at all.

 

[Crusaderfan]

In my big money league mine are :

Alexander

Walker

V. Davis

These three guys have led me to a 2-5 record.

 

[mcnabbmcnow]

Frank Gore has killed me, but I would say Alexander has been worse. It is truly not Gore's fault. He's running hard, but the offensive line and QB are playing horribly. They aren't giving the Niners time to do much of anything. Whereas to me, Alexander just stinks anymore.

 

[Capella]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

Gore has been awful? Really? He's on pace for about 1400 total yards and 8 TDs and is averaging 4.0 ypc. That's with him being "awful". So, if he goes from being "awful" to "decent" I guess he'll almost be able to justify his selection? Obviously he's not what we expected with a top 5 pick, but to say he is awful or the biggest bust this year is silly.

He's the 71st-ranked player in my league and RB16. He's been awful, sorry.

 

[Capella]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

Gore has been awful? Really? He's on pace for about 1400 total yards and 8 TDs and is averaging 4.0 ypc. That's with him being "awful". So, if he goes from being "awful" to "decent" I guess he'll almost be able to justify his selection? Obviously he's not what we expected with a top 5 pick, but to say he is awful or the biggest bust this year is silly.

In Z scoring, Gore is 16 (adp 5). Rudi is 47 (adp 9). Maroney is 51 (adp12). SJax is 56 (adp 2).

Rudi, Maroney and SJax have all been hurt.

 

[GoBears84]

It will be interesting at the end of the year to compare predictions to actuals. Those that were missed were missed badly and by just about everybody.

 

[cstu]

Any teams with Brees and Evans that have winning records?

 

[5Rings]

Has to be Gore. Guy was taken in the top-5 of all drafts, has been healthy, and has been positively awful.Guys like Evans and Clayton, etc went much later in drafts. Nowhere near the same impact.

Gore has been awful? Really? He's on pace for about 1400 total yards and 8 TDs and is averaging 4.0 ypc. That's with him being "awful". So, if he goes from being "awful" to "decent" I guess he'll almost be able to justify his selection? Obviously he's not what we expected with a top 5 pick, but to say he is awful or the biggest bust this year is silly.

In Z scoring, Gore is 16 (adp 5). Rudi is 47 (adp 9). Maroney is 51 (adp12). SJax is 56 (adp 2).

Rudi, Maroney and SJax have all been hurt.

Of course. But how has the fact that these guys have been hurt help the guy at 1-6 who took SJax 2nd overall?I guess I'm just looking at it as black/white. Performance vs adp

 

[jcuadrado]

hands down...Lee Evans.....

He's not injured....was ranked in the top 15 at the beginning of the year....

He's currently ranked 71st in my league....Jerheme Urban is ranked higher.

the hell with Evans...

 

[MCguidance]

Yeah, I think we should try and define the terms of bust. My first point of contention is injury v. healthy. If a player has missed a significant amount of time (I would say that 3 games out of 7 is significant) he will not qualify for this category (but may qualify at the end of the year if those stats are bad and he missed only those 3 games- or more; or that player just could not get it going ie bust). I believe that a player must be on the field to be a bust. Sjax is killing ffballers, as is Rudi, but are not quite the BUST that Evans or SA has been IMO.