Bill B. to be exposed (1 Viewer)

[grind]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.

I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't get all the venom being spewed at the Pats this week. If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score. They had a second string QB rush for a TD . . . is he supposed to get to the 6 inch line and then kneel down?

Clearly going for it or not going for it up by 35 points is not the same as deciding what to do at a 0-0 game in the first quarter, so I don't see the similarities at all here.

 

[brock]

if coward = winner then sign me up to be a coward too.

 

[higgins]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

Huh? Qué?

 

[sho nuff]

I don't get all the venom being spewed at the Pats this week. If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score. They had a second string QB rush for a TD . . . is he supposed to get to the 6 inch line and then kneel down?Clearly going for it or not going for it up by 35 points is not the same as deciding what to do at a 0-0 game in the first quarter, so I don't see the similarities at all here.

Agreed that the premise of this thread is out there.But how can people not get the venom this week?This was not a one week thing.And I don't think many people have said much about the Cassel run anyway.

 

[Statorama]

Another Patriots Thread! Everybody Dance!

 

[PatsWillWin]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

lol.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

WTF?

 

[831hoops]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

 

[AnonymousBob]

What is this, the third Patriot thread on the day? Only 7 more to go until we meet our quota! C'mon everyone, if we work hard we can meet our goals!

 

[dozer]

Everybody hates a winner.

 

[fatness]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, they wouldn't.

 

[PatsWillWin]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, they wouldn't.

This is incorrect.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't get all the venom being spewed at the Pats this week. If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score. They had a second string QB rush for a TD . . . is he supposed to get to the 6 inch line and then kneel down?Clearly going for it or not going for it up by 35 points is not the same as deciding what to do at a 0-0 game in the first quarter, so I don't see the similarities at all here.

Agreed that the premise of this thread is out there.But how can people not get the venom this week?This was not a one week thing.And I don't think many people have said much about the Cassel run anyway.

I mentioned to some of the other staff guys today that this whole situation has come full circle. Many people in the Shark Pool over the years openly critized New England during there run and 21-game winning streak because they barely won games against inferior opponents and if they were a great team they would have blown them out by 3 TDs. Now some of the same people are bashing them for scoring TOO MANY points and beating up on people. I'm not denying that NE has not had to tack on points at the end of some of these games, and if people had watched all the Pats games this year they would have seen them AVOID scoring points in many of the earlier games this year by kneeling down, going for it on 4th and long, and generally not scoring late in the 4th quarter. They avoided kicking chip shot field goals, had the ball a few times inside the 5 yard line and made no attempt to score, and otherwise could have already scored another 30 points this year.I ask what exactly are teams supposed to do when up 30 points at half time? Take a knee on every play? NE has had their RBs banged up a lot this year and in the game against WAS had their two starting TEs out with injuries. They openly said after the game they did not have the personnel to run many running plays and Morris was out and Maroney was just getting back on the field. Was it their responsibility to simply give the ball back to the Redskins?I honestly don't have a good answer for this situation, but I'm not sure running three plays for no gain and not trying to get anywhere is the right thing to do, thus giving the Skins offense the ball and keeping their own defense on the field all day long.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

 

[twitch]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I agree. Peter King made the same comment as Yudkin and I don't know why he said that. When it's 4th and 1 at the opponents 10 you have 2 options-go for it or kick a field goal. The play there HAS to be a field goal and I have no idea why people say they'd get bashed for doing so.

 

[phthalatemagic]

 

[Texican]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

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[WVU Alum]

So what is worse? They score late in the 4th with the second string QB... or the second string QB runs to the goal line, slides so as not to be killed. Then they kneel for the remaining downs. That would have been rubbing it in.

Allowing the second string to play all out is just football. How else were they going to showcase for better contracts or starting jobs. I think the starters should have come out at the start of the 4th, which I think happened. If not, oh well.

You get paid to play, play 60 minutes or quit and let the guy behind you try. Hell I'm sure he'd like to get starter money even if it meant one beating a year from the Pats.

 

[Statorama]

I don't get all the venom being spewed at the Pats this week. If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score. They had a second string QB rush for a TD . . . is he supposed to get to the 6 inch line and then kneel down?Clearly going for it or not going for it up by 35 points is not the same as deciding what to do at a 0-0 game in the first quarter, so I don't see the similarities at all here.

Agreed that the premise of this thread is out there.But how can people not get the venom this week?This was not a one week thing.And I don't think many people have said much about the Cassel run anyway.

I mentioned to some of the other staff guys today that this whole situation has come full circle. Many people in the Shark Pool over the years openly critized New England during there run and 21-game winning streak because they barely won games against inferior opponents and if they were a great team they would have blown them out by 3 TDs. Now some of the same people are bashing them for scoring TOO MANY points and beating up on people. I'm not denying that NE has not had to tack on points at the end of some of these games, and if people had watched all the Pats games this year they would have seen them AVOID scoring points in many of the earlier games this year by kneeling down, going for it on 4th and long, and generally not scoring late in the 4th quarter. They avoided kicking chip shot field goals, had the ball a few times inside the 5 yard line and made no attempt to score, and otherwise could have already scored another 30 points this year.I ask what exactly are teams supposed to do when up 30 points at half time? Take a knee on every play? NE has had their RBs banged up a lot this year and in the game against WAS had their two starting TEs out with injuries. They openly said after the game they did not have the personnel to run many running plays and Morris was out and Maroney was just getting back on the field. Was it their responsibility to simply give the ball back to the Redskins?I honestly don't have a good answer for this situation, but I'm not sure running three plays for no gain and not trying to get anywhere is the right thing to do, thus giving the Skins offense the ball and keeping their own defense on the field all day long.

Heath Evans is a horse, and they might have given him a few more carries.I think that it was a small issue until Cassell ran that one play on 4th and two when the game was clearly out of reach. That's when the cumulative effect exploded.

 

[joffer]

the first 10 threads on the first page are now about the Patriots. Just FYI

and bump

 

[David Yudkin]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I don't disagree that they ran up the score, but I guess I disagree as to what a team is supposed to do for 2 quarters of football. Welker spiking the ball to go up 45-0 was uncalled for, but there was still 9 or 10 minutes to go in the game. The last TD was scored with the B team in, and the final Pats drive had members of the third string in when they could have tried to score even more points (starting at the WAS 40 yard line with 3 minutes to go).At what point is a team expected to stop playing and basically lay down on the ball? I don't know, I'm just asking hypothetically.

 

[greenline]

 

[David Yudkin]

Again, I'm not a big supporter of teams eclipsing 50 points for no real reason, but just the week before the Titans were up 32-7 in the 4th and gave up 29 points before needing a FG on the last play of the game to eke out a victory against HOU.

Weird things happen. What lead is considered safe and at what point these days? 3 TD? 4 TD? 5 TD? I suspect that each person will have a different answer to that.

 

[[icon]]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

Actually I'm pretty sure whining about it on a internet message board is more cowardly.

 

[Steeler43]

Everybody hates a winner.

Try cheater.

 

[sho nuff]

I don't get all the venom being spewed at the Pats this week. If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score. They had a second string QB rush for a TD . . . is he supposed to get to the 6 inch line and then kneel down?Clearly going for it or not going for it up by 35 points is not the same as deciding what to do at a 0-0 game in the first quarter, so I don't see the similarities at all here.

Agreed that the premise of this thread is out there.But how can people not get the venom this week?This was not a one week thing.And I don't think many people have said much about the Cassel run anyway.

I mentioned to some of the other staff guys today that this whole situation has come full circle. Many people in the Shark Pool over the years openly critized New England during there run and 21-game winning streak because they barely won games against inferior opponents and if they were a great team they would have blown them out by 3 TDs. Now some of the same people are bashing them for scoring TOO MANY points and beating up on people.

I think it is less about "too many" points and more about how and when those points come about.

I'm not denying that NE has not had to tack on points at the end of some of these games, and if people had watched all the Pats games this year they would have seen them AVOID scoring points in many of the earlier games this year by kneeling down, going for it on 4th and long, and generally not scoring late in the 4th quarter. They avoided kicking chip shot field goals, had the ball a few times inside the 5 yard line and made no attempt to score, and otherwise could have already scored another 30 points this year.

Agreed...they did early in the year. The past several weeks have gone against that though.

I ask what exactly are teams supposed to do when up 30 points at half time? Take a knee on every play? NE has had their RBs banged up a lot this year and in the game against WAS had their two starting TEs out with injuries. They openly said after the game they did not have the personnel to run many running plays and Morris was out and Maroney was just getting back on the field. Was it their responsibility to simply give the ball back to the Redskins?

And you see...this is where some of the disgust comes from against Pats fans and defenders. Taking a completely ridiculous extreme like taking a knee on every play.Nobody is insisting anything like that until the final minutes.But try running the ball. I doubt they are that worried about Eckle's health to limit him to what...4 carries or so in the 4th quarter against Washington? While Brady and Cassel were still throwing the ball around?

I honestly don't have a good answer for this situation, but I'm not sure running three plays for no gain and not trying to get anywhere is the right thing to do, thus giving the Skins offense the ball and keeping their own defense on the field all day long.

Why would it be no gain? Why does it have to be that extreme?I mean, these are the Patriots...great Oline. Can they not block?When Brady came back into the Dolphins game it was kind of funny the defense. That the lead was back to 21. Oooh...the supposed best team in the NFL cannot hold a 21 point lead against the Dolphins? So Brady came back in chucking the ball left and right.I just don't think its a smart way to coach IMO. It seems more like BB's ego/arrogance saying "I will show you all not to question my genius" and it is clouding his own brain on what the smart thing to do is.

 

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driving the field against a hapless team

YOU GUYS ARE PICKING ON THE POOR WITTLE WEDSKINS!!!!The F'n Redsins were 4-2 before this loss and you guys are all acting like the Patriots were stomping on babies and battering women out there

 

[trogg78]

This is coming from a guy who believes that Bill Bilicheck completely made Bill Parcells. That said, I believe Bill will be exposed as a coward this weekend. If he’s going for it on 4th down up 38-0 and 45-0 against a far less opponent, then it would be cowardly to not to the same in say the first quarter against an opponent like the Colts. We’ll see what he does the first 4th down the Pats have in the game.I’d compare it to a grown adult calling a nine year old a punk from a car 100 yards away versus saying to the kids face with his 6’6”, 320 pound father standing next to him. He’s a coward if he can say it when the kid is alone from a distance when he won’t say it with his father standing next to him a few feet away.

coward=bashing someone you don't even know on a message board with an anonymous user name.

 

[parrot]

4-1-IND 48 (8:52) C.Dillon right tackle pushed ob at IND 13 for 35 yards (A.Bethea).

4-6-IND 34 (11:07) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short middle to T.Brown to IND 7 for 27 yards (J.David).

HTH.

 

[Statorama]

driving the field against a hapless team

YOU GUYS ARE PICKING ON THE POOR WITTLE WEDSKINS!!!!The F'n Redsins were 4-2 before this loss and you guys are all acting like the Patriots were stomping on babies and battering women out there

Don't forget kicking puppies

 

[[icon]]

Everybody hates a winner.

Try cheater.

Don't worry.. Steelers will have another chance at a title once Interceptiburger hands over the keys.

 

[timschochet]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I don't disagree that they ran up the score, but I guess I disagree as to what a team is supposed to do for 2 quarters of football. Welker spiking the ball to go up 45-0 was uncalled for, but there was still 9 or 10 minutes to go in the game. The last TD was scored with the B team in, and the final Pats drive had members of the third string in when they could have tried to score even more points (starting at the WAS 40 yard line with 3 minutes to go).At what point is a team expected to stop playing and basically lay down on the ball? I don't know, I'm just asking hypothetically.

I think if you're up by 5 TDs or more you stop throwing the ball out of a shotgun formation on 1st down, and then again on 2nd down. You don't stop being aggressive, but i tink that is over the top. If you want a good example of what SHOULD be done, look at Pete Carroll at USC. During the Leinart era, at least half his games were blowouts. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, up by 35+, he would run the ball on 1st and second down-if someone broke one, great. He would throw on 3rd and long, never out of a shotgun, though. Carroll is considered one of the classiest coaches in football for a reason.

 

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driving the field against a hapless team

YOU GUYS ARE PICKING ON THE POOR WITTLE WEDSKINS!!!!The F'n Redsins were 4-2 before this loss and you guys are all acting like the Patriots were stomping on babies and battering women out there

Don't forget kicking puppies

I'm pretty sure I saw Vrabel selling drugs to kids in the Tunnel too.

 

[greenline]

WHY ARE THE PATRIOTS SUPPOSED TO STOP RUNNING THEIR OFFENSE?

WHY? They are supposed to run Kyle Eckel the whole 4th qtr now?

I'd rather they stay sharp and practice execution ALL THE TIME. NOT when fans of other teams say they should.

 

[Chairshot]

They wanted to make an example of the Skins. There is no valid reason to throw 30 yard passes downfield when you are up by 4 TDs in the fourth quarter.

If they ran the ball 3 times and punted, the Skins still wouldn't have had enough time to come back. Just put the backups in and kick the FG and be done with it. No one is going to say they were running up the score if they did that. If that were the case, you would have people screaming about teams running up the score every single week, because it happens every single week where teams kick FGs with big leads late in games.

Comparing the Titans game to the Pats game doesn't make any sense. The Titans are not the Pats. If the Skins had mounted a come back they could have just put the starters back in, like they did the week before.

BB is basically asking some frustrated, prideful defender to take Brady's head off with a cheap shot.

 

[greenline]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I don't disagree that they ran up the score, but I guess I disagree as to what a team is supposed to do for 2 quarters of football. Welker spiking the ball to go up 45-0 was uncalled for, but there was still 9 or 10 minutes to go in the game. The last TD was scored with the B team in, and the final Pats drive had members of the third string in when they could have tried to score even more points (starting at the WAS 40 yard line with 3 minutes to go).At what point is a team expected to stop playing and basically lay down on the ball? I don't know, I'm just asking hypothetically.

I think if you're up by 5 TDs or more you stop throwing the ball out of a shotgun formation on 1st down, and then again on 2nd down. You don't stop being aggressive, but i tink that is over the top. If you want a good example of what SHOULD be done, look at Pete Carroll at USC. During the Leinart era, at least half his games were blowouts. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, up by 35+, he would run the ball on 1st and second down-if someone broke one, great. He would throw on 3rd and long, never out of a shotgun, though. Carroll is considered one of the classiest coaches in football for a reason.

SHOT GUN IS THEIR OFFENSE! IT'S WHAT THEY DO.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I wonder what the over/under is on the # of hate threads the Pats and BB will see this year?

 

[timschochet]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I don't disagree that they ran up the score, but I guess I disagree as to what a team is supposed to do for 2 quarters of football. Welker spiking the ball to go up 45-0 was uncalled for, but there was still 9 or 10 minutes to go in the game. The last TD was scored with the B team in, and the final Pats drive had members of the third string in when they could have tried to score even more points (starting at the WAS 40 yard line with 3 minutes to go).At what point is a team expected to stop playing and basically lay down on the ball? I don't know, I'm just asking hypothetically.

I think if you're up by 5 TDs or more you stop throwing the ball out of a shotgun formation on 1st down, and then again on 2nd down. You don't stop being aggressive, but i tink that is over the top. If you want a good example of what SHOULD be done, look at Pete Carroll at USC. During the Leinart era, at least half his games were blowouts. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, up by 35+, he would run the ball on 1st and second down-if someone broke one, great. He would throw on 3rd and long, never out of a shotgun, though. Carroll is considered one of the classiest coaches in football for a reason.

SHOT GUN IS THEIR OFFENSE! IT'S WHAT THEY DO.

So maybe they do something else when the game's in the bag.

 

[cartel]

I don't get all the venom being spewed at the Pats this week. If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score. They had a second string QB rush for a TD . . . is he supposed to get to the 6 inch line and then kneel down?Clearly going for it or not going for it up by 35 points is not the same as deciding what to do at a 0-0 game in the first quarter, so I don't see the similarities at all here.

I think the real problem here is Brady scored to damn many points and it cost many of us (at least me) a game we badly needed to win. So I am really pissed at BB and he is off my Christmas Card list.

 

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If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I don't disagree that they ran up the score, but I guess I disagree as to what a team is supposed to do for 2 quarters of football. Welker spiking the ball to go up 45-0 was uncalled for, but there was still 9 or 10 minutes to go in the game. The last TD was scored with the B team in, and the final Pats drive had members of the third string in when they could have tried to score even more points (starting at the WAS 40 yard line with 3 minutes to go).At what point is a team expected to stop playing and basically lay down on the ball? I don't know, I'm just asking hypothetically.

I think if you're up by 5 TDs or more you stop throwing the ball out of a shotgun formation on 1st down, and then again on 2nd down. You don't stop being aggressive, but i tink that is over the top. If you want a good example of what SHOULD be done, look at Pete Carroll at USC. During the Leinart era, at least half his games were blowouts. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, up by 35+, he would run the ball on 1st and second down-if someone broke one, great. He would throw on 3rd and long, never out of a shotgun, though. Carroll is considered one of the classiest coaches in football for a reason.

SHOT GUN IS THEIR OFFENSE! IT'S WHAT THEY DO.

So maybe they do something else when the game's in the bag.

Ever occur to you that they were tuning up for a big game this week (Cots)?

 

[Statorama]

But really, how many ******* kids will Brady father before his playing days are over?

 

[PatrickT]

Can we set up a vote for dumbest thread ever, and nominate this one?

 

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I wonder what the over/under is on the # of hate threads the Pats and BB will see this year?

By timschochet? 4,520Total? 4,652

 

[greenline]

If the Pats kicked a field goal instead of "going for it" they would still be getting bashed for running up the score.

No, I don't believe they wouldn't have.There is a big difference between driving the field against a hapless team when the game is far out of reach and kicking a field goal, which the Pats certainly deserved to do, and doing the same thing but going for it on 4th down to put them in a better position to score a TD, which they did. I am neither a Patriot fan nor a hater -- I'm just getting increasingly baffled at how anyone can NOT see that what went on in this game was anything but running up the score.

I don't disagree that they ran up the score, but I guess I disagree as to what a team is supposed to do for 2 quarters of football. Welker spiking the ball to go up 45-0 was uncalled for, but there was still 9 or 10 minutes to go in the game. The last TD was scored with the B team in, and the final Pats drive had members of the third string in when they could have tried to score even more points (starting at the WAS 40 yard line with 3 minutes to go).At what point is a team expected to stop playing and basically lay down on the ball? I don't know, I'm just asking hypothetically.

I think if you're up by 5 TDs or more you stop throwing the ball out of a shotgun formation on 1st down, and then again on 2nd down. You don't stop being aggressive, but i tink that is over the top. If you want a good example of what SHOULD be done, look at Pete Carroll at USC. During the Leinart era, at least half his games were blowouts. In the 3rd and 4th quarter, up by 35+, he would run the ball on 1st and second down-if someone broke one, great. He would throw on 3rd and long, never out of a shotgun, though. Carroll is considered one of the classiest coaches in football for a reason.

SHOT GUN IS THEIR OFFENSE! IT'S WHAT THEY DO.

So maybe they do something else when the game's in the bag.

WHY? WHY? Seriously, why should you be working on plays thart have no value in any terms of the matter? If you get into a touch down tossing competition with Indy, are those three posessions you wasted running lead dives going to help?

 

[Pigskins]

Enough with these posts. It's a struggle just to find actual Fantasy Football posts in the Shark Pool now.

 

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But really, how many ******* kids will Brady father before his playing days are over?

I'd imagine 94% of the nations women would like up to get a piece of that child support check.

 

[Statorama]

I wonder what the over/under is on the # of hate threads the Pats and BB will see this year?

By timschochet? 4,520Total? 4,652

:( I think this is the first time in the history of this board that the Shark Pool has been more entertaining and brought me more laughs than the FFA.I want to hug the entire board today.

 

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I wonder what the over/under is on the # of hate threads the Pats and BB will see this year?

By timschochet? 4,520Total? 4,652

:( I think this is the first time in the history of this board that the Shark Pool has been more entertaining and brought me more laughs than the FFA.I want to hug the entire board today.

Why the hell do you think I've been in here all day? I don't think the mods mind if we keep the madness to the 34 Pats threads on the first page and don't let it spill out into the other stuff.