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i actually believe her since she was on the Stern show in 2006 and was asked about Bill Cosby and said she couldn't talk about something he did to her.
I thought I was the only one who treasured that bit. The best.SaintsInDome2006 said:
I can't look at Al Franken as a Senator without thinking "I think I scored big ... with the bow tie."
Interesting... I don't know though, but I see your point. But I do think for a more universally maligned, and frankly, younger person, the rage would be more real. But lets be real, there is some wiring in people that does not want to invalidate prior investments of faith in people. I think the word beloved is key.
Meh, he made millions of people laugh for decades. A few women got raped along the way, and now he's 77. Not much we can do about it now, and presumably at his age he no longer rapes, which is good. We've got some really compelling playoff scenarios in the NFL, holidays coming up, record snow in Buffalo, etc.Maybe I won't buy any Jello products for a while.Smack Tripper said:
There is always room for forgiveness.Meh, he made millions of people laugh for decades. A few women got raped along the way, and now he's 77. Not much we can do about it now, and presumably at his age he no longer rapes, which is good. We've got some really compelling playoff scenarios in the NFL, holidays coming up, record snow in Buffalo, etc.Maybe I won't buy any Jello products for a while.Smack Tripper said:
A murderer AND a rapist? Where does it end?Mr. Ham said:
In the court of public opinion? Sure looks that way.
No, but you can really make a case he's a serial rapist in debatably the most vile and heinous manner.
Sounds like the drugs came mixed in with the drinks without them knowing. I assume that those who didn't drink alcohol got some butterscotch pudding instead, no pun intended.
JoePa turned a blind eye to kids being molested. Cosby raped women. Aside from being public figures, they're nothing alike.
There tends to be a strong sense of fear and intimidation in sexual assaults. The vast majority of sexual assaults are not when you think of a forceful random attacker, it's with people they know and instead of fighting the attacker they submit. Fear for safety, intimidation from an authority figure etc can be just as frightening as the threat of physical harm. Many of these women probably trusted him and had little reason to fear for assault. And when you end up in a foreign setting and are intoxicated or drugged I would expect it's very hard to leave the situation.
You're the Michael Jordan of victim-blaming rapist apologists.
iconic figures that had a huge fall from grace late in their lives due to serial sexual assaults...aside from that you are correct
Sure, that's what I always say. The moment someone asks a person who wronged them for compensation for the harm, they lose all credibility. That's why we should do away with all recovery in civil litigation. Just having a third party decide that you were in the right and someone else was in the wrong is compensation enough!
I feel like this is a unique phenomenon for accusations of rape because people still like to trivialize sexual assaults and blame the victim. It's ridiculous to say that if a victim looks for compensation then they lose credibility and the rape never happened etc. We don't nearly see as much outrage with this in civil suits for wrongful deaths or even just personal injuries cases etc. Hell for as much crap sexual assault victims have to deal with just for coming forward, they deserve to be compensated and 90% of victims have no interest in compensation just to have people believe their stories.
That's the sucky thing about this. There is no way to prove it now years later. It's now he says she says, and even though there are a few women now coming out with this, you still can't say 100% this is true. The only way to know 100% for sure is if they had done the rape kit back then. I don't think DNA testing was out yet but that would have been the nail in the coffin. BC is taking a hit but I don't think it's going to be a long term hit. Kind of like Kobe Bryant when he was accused of rape and all those sponsors dropped him. Now he's back and 11 years later, it is (almost) forgotten.
I can agree with this when children are involved or adults that report it within a reasonable time....When it happens in 1969 and you decide to come forward now? That particular woman was 19 at the time, reluctantly had oral sex with him and then went out with him again and then claims he raped her..And now in 2014 it is time to tell your story? You can't see how that looks a little odd? How her credibility comes in question?
Not until I just saw your post. Smart cat.
I have zero remorse about being snarky and condescending in this context. Victim-blaming and trying to discredit sexual assault victims simply because they seek compensation are both awful.
I know right? Plus in the late 60's broads wore those little micro miniskirts. It's not rape if you're showing that much thigh IMO.
I'm guessing there was more than a little intimidation factor when you are sexually assaulted by a beloved celebrity. I can't speak with any authority of the atmosphere of the late 60s/early 70s but I'm guessing it wasn't accommodating for sexual assault victims. Especially considering many of these women were aspiring actresses, they were probably afraid of repercussions. Additionally maybe many of these women tried to come forward but their stories were dismissed or just outright ignored.
It doesn't help that the sexual revolution was in the 60's/early 70's where everyone was purported to be 'free' and experimenting in all kinds of things...
