Black teens destroy white man with hammer! (1 Viewer)

[meatwad1]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

 

[johnnycakes]

Kids ages 15, 16 & 17? Arrest their parents, too.

 

[timschochet]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

 

[coyote5]

Hot widow

 

[meatwad1]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

You're not serious right? Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Sinn Fein]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

Its easy to know when not to trust the police - when they open their mouths.

 

[cstu]

“There is no indication that the gentleman last night was targeted because he was Bosnian,” Dotson said. “There’s no indication that they knew each other.”

Of course not, it was because he was white.

 

[fantasycurse42]

'Bosnian' man beaten to death with hammers by 'group of te

I knew it was a dangerous position, Hernandez isn't the only thug tight end!!!

 

[timschochet]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

You're not serious right? Whatever floats your boat.

i'm dead serious. You started this thread by mocking the police chief and implying you don't trust what he has to say. In other instances (one quite recent) you have expressed unreserved support for a police officer's story. How do you decide?

 

[comfortably numb]

STOP....

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[NCCommish]

I think there is some validity to the racial aspect and the police chief is just trying to keep it under control. Apparently these "kids" were roaming a well known ethnic neighborhood looking for victims. There was an attack earlier reportedly by the same group on another Bosnian man but he was able to get away with minor injuires. I'd lean towards police chief fibbing here.

 

[Sabertooth]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

 

[boots11234]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

 

[timschochet]

Is there like a whole ethnic Bosnian area there, enough so that other minorities would have attitudes toward "the Bosnians"? I had no idea.

 

[Tom Servo]

'Bosnian' man beaten to death with hammers by 'group of te

I knew it was a dangerous position, Hernandez isn't the only thug tight end!!!

I guess I'm going to have to watch my six if I go into Pittsburgh; that Heath Miller knows how to work those prison shivs.

 

[timschochet]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

 

[Cjw_55106]

Three teens are hitting your car with hammers. You have a couple of options...getting out of your car to confront them should be quite low on the list.

 

[Sabertooth]

Three teens are hitting your car with hammers. You have a couple of options...getting out of your car to confront them should be quite low on the list.

I can see the headline now if he'd run them over.

"Local Racist Murders Pranksters in Cold Blood"

 

[Jackstraw]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

You're not serious right? Whatever floats your boat.

i'm dead serious. You started this thread by mocking the police chief and implying you don't trust what he has to say. In other instances (one quite recent) you have expressed unreserved support for a police officer's story. How do you decide?

I think you have a pretty good idea.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Is there like a whole ethnic Bosnian area there, enough so that other minorities would have attitudes toward "the Bosnians"? I had no idea.

There's a large population of Bosnians in St. Louis. While I don't know about that neighborhood, Wikipedia lists it as a community with a "Little Bosnia" neighborhood.

When the Bosnian national soccer team played pre-World Cup friendlies in the US, I believe they specifically played in St. Louis so as to draw a good crowd of Bosnian fans. They beat Ivory Coast 2-1 at the Edward Jones Dome.

 

[msommer]

Is there like a whole ethnic Bosnian area there, enough so that other minorities would have attitudes toward "the Bosnians"? I had no idea.

There's a large population of Bosnians in St. Louis. While I don't know about that neighborhood, Wikipedia lists it as a community with a "Little Bosnia" neighborhood.

When the Bosnian national soccer team played pre-World Cup friendlies in the US, I believe they specifically played in St. Louis so as to draw a good crowd of Bosnian fans. They beat Ivory Coast 2-1 at the Edward Jones Dome.

Serbs and Bosnians go way back. Not in a good way

 

[Stealthycat]

NBC has made a point of mentioning both races EVERY time they had a story about Darren Wilson and Michael Brown.

They seem to lack giving this victim of a brutal murder the same coverage. The victim was just "a man". The suspects are just "two male teenagers".

If you look up enough sources ... It turns out the victim was a white Bosnian. The teen suspects were black and they are also looking for a Hispanic male. This same group is believed to be connected to another attack on a white Bosnian with hammers in the same community.

Little Bosnia is protesting but oddly they are not burning down their businesses or anyone elses




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-beaten-death-hammers-st-louis-police-say-n258686

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

NBC has made a point of mentioning both races EVERY time they had a story about Darren Wilson and Michael Brown.

They seem to lack giving this victim of a brutal murder the same coverage. The victim was just "a man". The suspects are just "two male teenagers".

If you look up enough sources ... It turns out the victim was a white Bosnian. The teen suspects were black and they are also looking for a Hispanic male. This same group is believed to be connected to another attack on a white Bosnian with hammers in the same community.

Little Bosnia is protesting but oddly they are not burning down their businesses or anyone elses




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-beaten-death-hammers-st-louis-police-say-n258686

In fairness they are immigrants who are not yet familiar with our ways.

 

[[icon]]

Is there like a whole ethnic Bosnian area there, enough so that other minorities would have attitudes toward "the Bosnians"? I had no idea.

One of my best buddies is Bosnian (refugee who came here with little more than the shirt on his back) and tries to get up to that neighborhood at least once a year for the food. Supposedly very much a tight knit community that holds true to authentic cuisine/culture.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

What if he was a different white 'minority'? Jewish? Canadian? Mormon? British? Would that change any of your reactions?

 

[meatwad1]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

You're not serious right? Whatever floats your boat.

i'm dead serious. You started this thread by mocking the police chief and implying you don't trust what he has to say. In other instances (one quite recent) you have expressed unreserved support for a police officer's story. How do you decide?

My support for the police officer's story in the other case is based on objective evidence. If you read the transcripts, almost of the people who said that Micheal Brown was killed in cold blood were proven to be liars.

In this case, it looks to be pretty clear that a white guy got beaten to death by hammers for some odd reason. I wonder why that is? Were they trying to hammer -rob him?

 

[meatwad1]

NBC has made a point of mentioning both races EVERY time they had a story about Darren Wilson and Michael Brown.

They seem to lack giving this victim of a brutal murder the same coverage. The victim was just "a man". The suspects are just "two male teenagers".

If you look up enough sources ... It turns out the victim was a white Bosnian. The teen suspects were black and they are also looking for a Hispanic male. This same group is believed to be connected to another attack on a white Bosnian with hammers in the same community.

Little Bosnia is protesting but oddly they are not burning down their businesses or anyone elses




http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-beaten-death-hammers-st-louis-police-say-n258686

I wonder if he is a 'white hispanic' or a 'black hispanic'....or does it not matter? They were just out hammerin' and things got out of hand. No hate crime here, they were just having a little fun feelin' the cold steel of those hammers sink into his flesh.

 

[meatwad1]

What if he was a different white 'minority'? Jewish? Canadian? Mormon? British? Would that change any of your reactions?

I can pretty much guarantee you that those kids could not pick out a Bosnian from a German from an Italian from an Australian. We are talking about kids who are out hammerin' for fun. This is caveman level shtick that they are propagating here.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Why does it matter that he is Bosnian?

 

[boots11234]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems.

Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

 

[timschochet]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems. Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

 

[boots11234]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems. Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind.

And man do you reply fast.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I live a few miles from the area. It's heavily inhabited by Bosnians. With the racial tensions in the city the way they are I wouldn't be surprised if it was racially motivated. Not exactly the safest neighborhood any time, though. St. Louis city has some major problems, and not just north.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Why does it matter that he is Bosnian?

I think it matters that he's fair skinned.

 

[timschochet]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems. Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind. And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess. As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Why does it matter that he is Bosnian?

I think it matters that he's fair skinned.

Who said life was fair?

 

[boots11234]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems. Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind. And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess. As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

Astute of you. Answer me this a man has pored gasoline all over your house and threatens to burn it down if you don't stop him. He is 6'4" 290. Your family is gone for the weekend your house is empty except for your new cat you named Berry.

You have a shotgun you use for trap shooting in the garage you could easily get to to stop him as a physical altercation is out of the question. What do you do.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society. Is there a history of violence against Bosnians? Are Bosnians incarcerated at a higher % than other groups? Are they attacked by teenagers at a higher rate than Norwegians? Do people think that "Bosnian" is a race?

I have a lot of questions.

I'm sorry that a man was beaten to death with a hammer and hope those teenagers die in a cage. Other than that, I'm not sure what I'm meant to be taking from this story.

 

[PatsWillWin]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems.Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind.And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess.As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

Astute of you. Answer me this a man has pored gasoline all over your house and threatens to burn it down if you don't stop him. He is 6'4" 290. Your family is gone for the weekend your house is empty except for your new cat you named Berry.

You have a shotgun you use for trap shooting in the garage you could easily get to to stop him as a physical altercation is out of the question. What do you do.

Call the police while he was walking around my house pouring gasoline on it. I hate to be cynical, but I simply can't give a complete stranger who weighs that much the benefit of the doubt - he has to be up to no good. After calling 911 I would immediately make sure that Berry was indoors.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.

I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?

Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.

 

[timschochet]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems.Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind.And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess.As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

Astute of you. Answer me this a man has pored gasoline all over your house and threatens to burn it down if you don't stop him. He is 6'4" 290. Your family is gone for the weekend your house is empty except for your new cat you named Berry.

You have a shotgun you use for trap shooting in the garage you could easily get to to stop him as a physical altercation is out of the question. What do you do.

If my family is gone then I call the police. I love my two cats, but they're not worth taking a life. (Not that I could handle a shotgun- I'd probably screw it up and shoot myself anyhow.)

 

[PatsWillWin]

I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.

I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?

Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.

I don't see your second post above being the same as your first post above.

Probably because you've taken one sentence out of the first post above.

 

[boots11234]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems.Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind.And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess.As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

Astute of you. Answer me this a man has pored gasoline all over your house and threatens to burn it down if you don't stop him. He is 6'4" 290. Your family is gone for the weekend your house is empty except for your new cat you named Berry.You have a shotgun you use for trap shooting in the garage you could easily get to to stop him as a physical altercation is out of the question. What do you do.

If my family is gone then I call the police. I love my two cats, but they're not worth taking a life. (Not that I could handle a shotgun- I'd probably screw it up and shoot myself anyhow.)

Interesting. I don't know if looting is covered by insurance but if someone's whole life is tied up in one thing and he did whatever was necessary to protect his stuff, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that.

 

[T Bell]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

I mean, it's not like he was black right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[timschochet]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

Nothing to see here right....the police chief assures us it was not an issue of his ethnicity.

So now you think the police are lying? That's interesting. How do you decide when to trust the police and when not to trust them?

You're not serious right? Whatever floats your boat.

i'm dead serious. You started this thread by mocking the police chief and implying you don't trust what he has to say. In other instances (one quite recent) you have expressed unreserved support for a police officer's story. How do you decide?

My support for the police officer's story in the other case is based on objective evidence. If you read the transcripts, almost of the people who said that Micheal Brown was killed in cold blood were proven to be liars.

In this case, it looks to be pretty clear that a white guy got beaten to death by hammers for some odd reason. I wonder why that is? Were they trying to hammer -rob him?

Hmm. Putting aside that there is very little objective evidence backing up the police officer in the other case, and that your second statement remains an assertion that has not been proven, (feel free to link any summary of the transcripts that matches your conclusion), the fact is you expressed belief in Officer Wilson long BEFORE any of the information came out on that case. You had no evidence that Wilson was telling the truth; yet you believed him. Here you have no evidence that this crime was racially motivated, yet you don't believe the policeman who stated that it was not racially motivated.

 

[fantasycurse42]

I've read the 17 year old is being charged as an adult... Nothing on the 15-16 year olds. If they aren't charged as adults, I hope the Bosnians steal things and burn buildings.

ETA:

http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/Homicide-investigation-underway-after-man-hit-in-head-in-south-St-Louis--284248091.html

I guess bc they are 16 and under there will be a hearing on charges being juvenile or adult.

 

[timschochet]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems.Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind.And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess.As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

Astute of you. Answer me this a man has pored gasoline all over your house and threatens to burn it down if you don't stop him. He is 6'4" 290. Your family is gone for the weekend your house is empty except for your new cat you named Berry.You have a shotgun you use for trap shooting in the garage you could easily get to to stop him as a physical altercation is out of the question. What do you do.

If my family is gone then I call the police. I love my two cats, but they're not worth taking a life. (Not that I could handle a shotgun- I'd probably screw it up and shoot myself anyhow.)

Interesting. I don't know if looting is covered by insurance but if someone's whole life is tied up in one thing and he did whatever was necessary to protect his stuff, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that.

Yeah, we had this same discussion with SIDA the night of the no indictment. SIDA thinks it's perfectly reasonable to kill anyone who would try to attack his retail store, even if no people are threatened. I can sympathize with that POV to an extent, but I can't reasonably agree with it.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.

I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?

Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.

I don't see your second post above being the same as your first post above.

Probably because you've taken one sentence out of the first post above.

Which sentence and how does it make your statement that people are attempting "to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society" correct?

I certainly agree with your second post that "people are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.

You can do the latter without doing the former.

By pointing out the difference in coverage between the death of a Bosnian man and that of a black man, the person making the comparison is implying that they should be covered the same. There are only two reasons for someone to believe that. Either:

a) They think that all instances like this (a violent death) should be covered the same regardless of "race" because "race" does not matter.

or

b) They think that race does matter, and the death of a Bosnian should be covered the same as the death of a black person because they are both suppressed (in some way) minority groups that have experienced similar histories of discrimination or persecution or been the subject of institutional "racism."

Both points are, in my opinion, stupid. If you're saying that I've assumed that it was b when it could've just been a, then okay, maybe it was. But they're both stupid.

 

[msommer]

This is why you press the gas when people mob your car.

Or pull out your pistol.

do you carry an loaded pistol when you're driving?

Yes. Do you find this troubling? Especially when my kids are in the car. However I would have never have gotten out of my car, even armed if this would have happened to me. I would have tried to drive away. If I couldn't do that I would have called the police. If my window was smashed while I was waiting for the police there would have been problems.Driving away would be my preferred choice as my family, another's life is not worth the cost of my deductible.

i don't find it troubling. Just curious.ETA I do find your last comment to be troubling, though not surprising.

Lol Tim. I was going to say that I was surprised you wernt troubled about me carrying a loaded pistol with my kids. But you surprised me that my last comment surprised you. What troubles you about it? Perhaps I should have put my car is not worth losing my life or taking another's. Does that change your mind.And man do you reply fast.

i just didn't care for the deductible comment I guess.As far as a loaded gun, I wouldn't do it, but then I'm uncomfortable around guns. Obviously you're not. I have no reason to think you're not a responsible dad.

Astute of you. Answer me this a man has pored gasoline all over your house and threatens to burn it down if you don't stop him. He is 6'4" 290. Your family is gone for the weekend your house is empty except for your new cat you named Berry.

You have a shotgun you use for trap shooting in the garage you could easily get to to stop him as a physical altercation is out of the question. What do you do.

Firing the shotgun next to all that gasoline might not be such a great idea. I believe fire is the key word here

 

[jon_mx]

I don't understand the attempt to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society.

I don't understand it either. Did anybody do that?

Yes. People are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.

I don't see your second post above being the same as your first post above.

Probably because you've taken one sentence out of the first post above.

Which sentence and how does it make your statement that people are attempting "to equate being "Bosnian" to being black with respect to their relative places in society" correct?

I certainly agree with your second post that "people are comparing the coverage of this event to the coverage of the Michael Brown story with respect to the emphasis on the "race" of each victim.

You can do the latter without doing the former.

By pointing out the difference in coverage between the death of a Bosnian man and that of a black man, the person making the comparison is implying that they should be covered the same. There are only two reasons for someone to believe that. Either:

a) They think that all instances like this (a violent death) should be covered the same regardless of "race" because "race" does not matter.

or

b) They think that race does matter, and the death of a Bosnian should be covered the same as the death of a black person because they are both suppressed (in some way) minority groups that have experienced similar histories of discrimination or persecution or been the subject of institutional "racism."

Both points are, in my opinion, stupid. If you're saying that I've assumed that it was b when it could've just been a, then okay, maybe it was. But they're both stupid.

Only two possible reasons???? Good lord, who is the stupid one here.